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TASEsq

TASEsq

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I wanted to quantify how the costs of the AXIS system stacked up if using it as an 'integrated' system, as compated to doing it the old school G3X style - aka, VFR base models with everything else added on.

TLDR: There is about a $6200 saving in doing it this way - plus i would imagine possible advantages with redundancy? (to be discussed).

I am happy to share my excel tool with everyone, but please share it back here if you make approvements! (or if you find any errors).

*I have also not looked at this from an installation standpoint as yet - for instance some installs may need the GAD29 (not sure about this yet), which would reduce the price delta. *

The analysis was done assuming the followng capabilities:
- DUAL big screens with a G5 backup
- IFR GPS
- ADSB in/out transponder
- 2 x VHF com units
- 1 x VHF NAV unit
- Autopilot with a panel mounted controller.
- Remote audio panel

The results:
V1 - All AXIS system with a remote transpoder
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V2 - AXIS base models with a GNX 375 & panel mounted VHF NAV
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V3 - the AXIS IFR COM for PFD, and AXIS base for MFD with GNX375 panel mounted + panel mounteed VHF NAV
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V4 - AXIS base models with a GTN650
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We have been finalizing product pricing/selection guides for OSH - when they are complete in their final versions they will be posted as a resource on our website (which can be compared against G3X Touch systems).

As you can see above, when your navigator selection includes a GTN650Xi +, that is the economic threshold of when the fully certified AXIS integrated flight display models (GDU116 C/NC) may provide benefit from a feature set and installation perspective.

When considering the value-driven 2" navigator series (GPS175/GNX375), the economics of a base AXIS experimental display with additional components (additional COMMs, NAV, Audio Panel, etc) provide cost benefit - but with the added installation complexity (more units/more wiring) of a traditional PFD + stack system.

The AXIS system creates the most system architecture choices for our aircraft that we've ever brought to market. We expect new installations to include both a generous mix of traditional PFD/MFD + stack and integrated style panels. The choice is wholly yours based on mission, needs, budget, and preferred user interface/architecture.

B/R,

Brad
 
g3xpert said:
We have been finalizing product pricing/selection guides for OSH - when they are complete in their final versions they will be posted as a resource on our website (which can be compared against G3X Touch systems).

As you can see above, when your navigator selection includes a GTN650Xi +, that is the economic threshold of when the fully certified AXIS integrated flight display models (GDU116 C/NC) may provide benefit from a feature set and installation perspective.

When considering the value-driven 2" navigator series (GPS175/GNX375), the economics of a base AXIS experimental display with additional components (additional COMMs, NAV, Audio Panel, etc) provide cost benefit - but with the added installation complexity (more units/more wiring) of a traditional PFD + stack system.

The AXIS system creates the most system architecture choices for our aircraft that we've ever brought to market. We expect new installations to include both a generous mix of traditional PFD/MFD + stack and integrated style panels. The choice is wholly yours based on mission, needs, budget, and preferred user interface/architecture.

B/R,

Brad
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Thanks for the input Brad.

I have to commend you guys for being so extremely organised - all the manuals, actual product all ready to go. Impressive feat.
 
What would be very helpful, would be what capabilities does the integrated system have over a base model with a gtn or a gnx?

Or would they be functionally identical?
 
Jonnyb said:
The 116NC has a 4 place audio panel built in. Otherwise a 116B with GTN650Xi is functionally the same as the 116NC.
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Is it tho?

I guess I can illustrate the question by an example - when I was looking at the GTN650 vs the GNX375 + GNC215 (in a g3x system) they seemed to have the same capability. But digging into it the GTN was able to do multiple crossing point VNAV but the GNX wasn’t capable (only VNAV to a single waypoint at a time). So I needed to decide if that was important to me or not.

I’m wondering if you did go with a 116B + GNX375 would you not be able to do something that the 116NC can do?
 
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Jonnyb said:
The 116NC has a 4 place audio panel built in. Otherwise a 116B with GTN650Xi is functionally the same as the 116NC.
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When you go with the AXIS IFR mapping database bundle you get the same IFR interface (on the GDU116Bx) as on the GDU116NC/C.
The commands/interface is on the GDU116Bx but the nav is occurring on the GTN (ie it appears to be the same as the GDU116NC/C).
 
I have to commend you guys for being so extremely organised - all the manuals, actual product all ready to go. Impressive feat.
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Glad to see some companies being run normally, like they should be. Van's, Lycoming, and many others, could stand to (re)learn these business lessons.

And interesting to see the reaction to that, i.e., surprised and very appreciative. Nothing wrong with that, of course, since Garmin deserves some Kudos here (including for answering the myriad of questions regarding the new AXIS system).

We have become accustomed to companies being run poorly, (e.g., putting out products before there're ready for prime time, poor documentation, poor customer support, etc.) and have accepted (sometimes grudgingly) these abnormal practices as normal!
 
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