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Garmin AXIS, Next Generation Integrated Flight Display

g3xpert said:
We will continue to sell G3X Touch displays and support new installations, including periodic software updates. We understand it is frustrating. The backend LRU's are largely unchanged, so upgrading from G3X Touch to AXIS Base displays is a relatively low burden from an installation standpoint.



If there were an unlikely failure of the HSDB network, the ARINC 429 > G5 path provides an alternate way for that information to be displayed to the pilot. You are correct however, there is a lot of redundancy built into a dual AXIS display installation, with GTN Xi connected directly to each display via HSDB.
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Thanks for the response and understood on the relative "ease" of upgrade. I also understand that Garmin chooses to not publish any reasonable road map, even if it's <1 to 3 years. Whether that is worth it to Garmin from a competitive advantage standpoint vs partnering up with the customer with transparency, I do not know. However you measure the value of proposition one way or the other, I hope you can elevate internally the benefit of treating the experimental market as both a long term relationship, customer and partner. Keep improving the product, but communication matters too.

Thanks again.
 
g3xpert said:
The display pricing table is List Price. The price listed in each example is the Minimum Advertised Price. You will need to discuss pricing details more in depth with the Garmin dealer you order your equipment from.

Thanks,

Justin
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Will it be possible to use a dedicated autopilot control panel (507) with the Axis system or will the autopilot be controlled exclusively from the pfd?
 
Thinking about failure analysis, which is an important part of system integration:

A dual screen system with one GDU118NC and a GDU118 — seems like the PFD is a very vulnerable failure point, because if it turns into a pumpkin you not only lose PFD (which I assume reverts to the MFD) but also lose navigation and the built-in GAD; which then degrades the ability of a G5 to provide proper backup: No Nav and no autopilot, so you could be left hand flying (or perhaps autopilot flying in HDG mode only) in IMC while you figure out what went wrong with the PFD.

The number of eggs per basket changes the failure analysis from what we’re used to, so it won’t be the same as the G3X Touch. Blast radius of each box, and failure probabilities of complex boxes vs simple boxes. Will require careful thought during system design.

It seems to me that an external GTN and an external GAD29 might produce a more robust single-device-failure scenario than having everything built into the same box.

Unless you equip with two nav/com IFR displays, I guess.

Initial thoughts, I’m sure the safest combination of building blocks will become clearer when we’ve had time to internalize system capabilities and limitations.


- mark
 
Justin -
g3xpert said:
Altogether, 33 pin assignments remain unchanged between the G3X Touch P4X02 connector and AXIS flight display J1012 connector. Nine pins are assigned functions in J1012, that were unused and reserved for future use in G3X Touch. Up to eight pins may require reassignment, mainly to support the new HSDB architecture. Your CAN LRU's will remain unchanged.
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Thank you for the quick replies. One more question - the GMC507 is listed in the install manual as an AXIS LRU. Does this imply that those of us with GMC307s would have to change to the 507 to be AXIS compatible?

Dave
 
Bavafa said:
How much would be a COM, intercom and ARINC 429 be that you don't get with the Bx model. The $18k would cover those also.
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I was hoping that since everything is integrated, the cost is reduced but it's not the case. I was on watching on Youtube and the founder of Dynon was stressing the case for lower cost avionics.
 
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