Can a PA sign off on a Basic Med. looked online but no luck.
Nope. "State Licensed Physician" = no PA's or NP's. Only MDs or ODs
FIFY: "DO" (OD is optometrist)
No, only licensed physicians MD or DO
This is a potential "gotcha" of BasicMed -- people analogize the exam (appropriately enough) to the requirements for getting a commercial driver's license, but in the case of BasicMed a PA is NOT allowed to do the exam/signoff.
As a physician myself, I see no reason a PA or NP couldn't do these exams. IF the FAA is nervous about it, have them do 2-4 hours of CE to get up to speed on what the FAA wants. Most AME use these folks anyway and sign off on their work.
That may be true, but the FAA regs for basic med are very clear that a state licensed doctor is required to sign off. Last I checked, a PA cannot get a license in most states. You also may not NEED a BFR, but the regs require it none the less. I could go on...
Larry
As a physician myself, I see no reason a PA or NP couldn't do these exams. IF the FAA is nervous about it, have them do 2-4 hours of CE to get up to speed on what the FAA wants. Most AME use these folks anyway and sign off on their work.
So my PA did the exam and filled out the form on page 9. She also got her supervising physician's signature, but nothing else. So, should I get them to add the physician's license number, or get them to fill out the form again, this time with the physician's info, or I'm all good as is?
When you return to the internet after the exam to complete the BasicMed process (which allows you to print out your BsicMed pocket card) the system will ask for the physician's name, address and State Physician License number. So yes. You will need the signing physician's license number.
In California, the PA also has a physician's assistant license number, and that is the number I put in after completing the BasicMed online course. Guess I have to do that over again?
Probably...who signed on the line that says "Signature of Physician who performed the exam"? And which information was put into the form in the box "Physician's Information"? If it wasn't the *Physician*, it's probably not legal. And certainly the PA's license number shouldn't have been used for the on-line form.
See Q46 of the FAA's BasicMed FAQs.
Here is a quick story of what can happen if the BasicMed paperwork is not done correctly. Albeit in this case the local pilot screwed up the whole thing from the get go.
Two months ago a local octogenarian pilot friend ran his Diamond DA40 off the end of the runway and got the prop and one wheel pant. This was at controlled field with commensurate tower filing an FAA report. This fellow had been paying hull insurance premiums since taking delivery of the aircraft new from the factory back in 2002 (19 years). All inspections and maintenance were up to date and the aircraft was airworthy.
The insurance carrier refused all claims. The owner/operator of the aircraft, who does not own a computer, read about BasicMed in an aviation magazine so he went to the local VA hospital and had a staff MD do a standard VA physical. And that was it. He did not take the online course and test nor did he go back and enter the physician's information. He just had the VA doctor's form filed away at the hangar.
The insurance carrier maintains he did not have a valid medical of any kind because he did not comply with the requirements of BasicMed or any other FAA pilot's medical for that matter. The FAA agreed because it was true.
Point here being that we all need to be familiar and comply with all the steps of BasicMed to the tee or risk violations and/or insurance claim denial. And maybe AOPA could make a little better concise summary of all the steps involved to avoid any confusion.
P.S. This pilot turned in his license and I will be putting this Diamond project online for sale soon.
Here is a quick story of what can happen if the BasicMed paperwork is not done correctly. Albeit in this case the local pilot screwed up the whole thing from the get go.
Two months ago a local octogenarian pilot friend ran his Diamond DA40 off the end of the runway and got the prop and one wheel pant. This was at controlled field with commensurate tower filing an FAA report. This fellow had been paying hull insurance premiums since taking delivery of the aircraft new from the factory back in 2002 (19 years). All inspections and maintenance were up to date and the aircraft was airworthy.
The insurance carrier refused all claims. The owner/operator of the aircraft, who does not own a computer, read about BasicMed in an aviation magazine so he went to the local VA hospital and had a staff MD do a standard VA physical. And that was it. He did not take the online course and test nor did he go back and enter the physician's information. He just had the VA doctor's form filed away at the hangar.
The insurance carrier maintains he did not have a valid medical of any kind because he did not comply with the requirements of BasicMed or any other FAA pilot's medical for that matter. The FAA agreed because it was true.
Point here being that we all need to be familiar and comply with all the steps of BasicMed to the tee or risk violations and/or insurance claim denial. And maybe AOPA could make a little better concise summary of all the steps involved to avoid any confusion.
P.S. This pilot turned in his license and I will be putting this Diamond project online for sale soon.
Here is a quick story of what can happen if the BasicMed paperwork is not done correctly. Albeit in this case the local pilot screwed up the whole thing from the get go.
Two months ago a local octogenarian pilot friend ran his Diamond DA40 off the end of the runway and got the prop and one wheel pant. This was at controlled field with commensurate tower filing an FAA report. This fellow had been paying hull insurance premiums since taking delivery of the aircraft new from the factory back in 2002 (19 years). All inspections and maintenance were up to date and the aircraft was airworthy.
The insurance carrier refused all claims. The owner/operator of the aircraft, who does not own a computer, read about BasicMed in an aviation magazine so he went to the local VA hospital and had a staff MD do a standard VA physical. And that was it. He did not take the online course and test nor did he go back and enter the physician's information. He just had the VA doctor's form filed away at the hangar.
The insurance carrier maintains he did not have a valid medical of any kind because he did not comply with the requirements of BasicMed or any other FAA pilot's medical for that matter. The FAA agreed because it was true.
Point here being that we all need to be familiar and comply with all the steps of BasicMed to the tee or risk violations and/or insurance claim denial. And maybe AOPA could make a little better concise summary of all the steps involved to avoid any confusion.
P.S. This pilot turned in his license and I will be putting this Diamond project online for sale soon.
I'd say this advice applies to all things aviation: As pilots we are individually responsible for knowing and understanding in detail all applicable regulations. BasicMed is but one component. Perhaps even more so than the AOPA, CFIs might also include this in BFR ground school discussion? Not taking a position, just wondering if it makes sense.
Here is a quick story of what can happen if the BasicMed paperwork is not done correctly. Albeit in this case the local pilot screwed up the whole thing from the get go.
Two months ago a local octogenarian pilot friend ran his Diamond DA40 off the end of the runway and got the prop and one wheel pant. This was at controlled field with commensurate tower filing an FAA report. This fellow had been paying hull insurance premiums since taking delivery of the aircraft new from the factory back in 2002 (19 years). All inspections and maintenance were up to date and the aircraft was airworthy.
The insurance carrier refused all claims. The owner/operator of the aircraft, who does not own a computer, read about BasicMed in an aviation magazine so he went to the local VA hospital and had a staff MD do a standard VA physical. And that was it. He did not take the online course and test nor did he go back and enter the physician's information. He just had the VA doctor's form filed away at the hangar.
The insurance carrier maintains he did not have a valid medical of any kind because he did not comply with the requirements of BasicMed or any other FAA pilot's medical for that matter. The FAA agreed because it was true.
Point here being that we all need to be familiar and comply with all the steps of BasicMed to the tee or risk violations and/or insurance claim denial. And maybe AOPA could make a little better concise summary of all the steps involved to avoid any confusion.
P.S. This pilot turned in his license and I will be putting this Diamond project online for sale soon.
Wow I have been using basic med for a long time now and I never knew you had to go and enter the doctor info online after. Where do you do this?
Wow I have been using basic med for a long time now and I never knew you had to go and enter the doctor info online after. Where do you do this?
It’s at the end of the quiz on the AOPA site.
Wow I have been using basic med for a long time now and I never knew you had to go and enter the doctor info online after. Where do you do this?