I found out yesterday it will be 5-6 months till we receive our seats. We are more than 100 down the list. Production is 20-30 a month. We are so bummed. We have had our finish kit for a year now and the plane is completely done ready to fly. Well, except for the engine. Just a small matter. Ha.
I suppose the only way to fairly deliver the seats is by order date. But there are those of us out here that have finished and are ready. And others who are no where near ready.
 
Just like calculating the "shortest route to land at all airports in side X geographic area," figuring out the most completion-time efficient way to allocate available RV-10 seats while minimizing unfairness based on position in the order queue would be a great thing to have A. I. working on.

A lot more beneficial to mankind than most of what it's been used for so far 😣
 
I emailed an inquiry of my seat status last Thursday. Had a tracking number 2 1/2 hours later and the box was delivered to my door today. Haven't opened it, yet, but I've little doubt that they're the Van's version. Size and density of the box tells me they are unassembled seats. (Box seems rather heavy for just two front seats sans upholstery.)

P.S. Finish kit ordered 7/2021
 
Ordered my Finishing Kit 8/5/2021 (picked up everything minus seats on 6/21/2023) and the seats arrived yesterday 4/16/2024. The seats are unassembled and accompany a revised section 49 for seat assembly. Box weighed 46lbs. The quality appears to be pretty good (perceived quality?).
 
I spoke with a representative of Van's on Friday, May 10, looking for information on when my front seats might ship. I was told that there was a "recall" on the seats that had been delivered, and that they had no information on when more seats might be available.

My finish kit had two backordered items; the seats, and a hardware bag. They offered to ship the hardware bag.

Has anyone else heard this?
 
1001001 said:
I spoke with a representative of Van's on Friday, May 10, looking for information on when my front seats might ship. I was told that there was a "recall" on the seats that had been delivered, and that they had no information on when more seats might be available.
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Just great. After a three year wait my engine is ready for pickup. Now I get another stop on the seats.

Carl
 
Recieved a notice from Van's today: "After shipping the initial production run to customers, we received valuable feedback and revised the foam contouring and seat back profile. This redesign is not related to functionality; it is being made for aesthetics, comfort, and ease of upholstery."

I was hoping Van's had merely reverse engineered the Oregon Aero seats (that I paid for.) Does not appear to be the case. I do appreciate that they're trying to make things right, but to survive they best get their quality under control.
 
jimbom said:
Recieved a notice from Van's today: "After shipping the initial production run to customers, we received valuable feedback and revised the foam contouring and seat back profile. This redesign is not related to functionality; it is being made for aesthetics, comfort, and ease of upholstery."

I was hoping Van's had merely reverse engineered the Oregon Aero seats (that I paid for.) Does not appear to be the case. I do appreciate that they're trying to make things right, but to survive they best get their quality under control.
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Did you receive your seats, or are they still backordered? I've received no such notice.
 
Did anyone get new seat backs? They were supposed to ship last month but I haven't seen anything.
 
jacoby said:
Did anyone get new seat backs? They were supposed to ship last month but I haven't seen anything.
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This is the response to my email last week asking for an update.
Carl

Hello,

Your are number 47 in line.

We don’t have an exact date for this part.

We will let you know as soon as possible.

My apologies for the inconvenience.

Have a good day!
 
Carl Froehlich said:
This is the response to my email last week asking for an update.
Carl

Hello,

Your are number 47 in line.

We don’t have an exact date for this part.

We will let you know as soon as possible.

My apologies for the inconvenience.

Have a good day!
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Are you waiting on the seats or just the seat backs? I already have the seats and have assembled them other than the back pans. I had some fitment issues with the back pans and the back frames and I'm really curious if the revision fixes the issue.
 
jacoby said:
Are you waiting on the seats or just the seat backs? I already have the seats and have assembled them other than the back pans. I had some fitment issues with the back pans and the back frames and I'm really curious if the revision fixes the issue.
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I’m waiting for the entire front seats.

Carl
 
lr172 said:
Because they don't; They think that grossly inflating the markup will solve their cash problem. I have to say that someone at Vans has gone just a bit overboard with the pricing. Seems that someone just waived a 75% wand over every part they sell. While I feel for Vans, I just don't see how this approach works well for them long term if they let it stand. $17,000 for two seat frames and 4 pieces of foam is insane. At some point, customers will revolt.

Doubling all of the prices may solve the short term problems, as they have a whole bunch of customers without other choices. Once that bulge clears the system, l see real concerns. If I were looking at a kit purchase today and happened to check parts prices, I would think twice before signing on the dotted line. If the fuselage kit is $30K, but they charge $17K just for the seats, that tells me that the company intends to truly "stick it to me" with any replacement part I may need to purchase and would not leave me with a warm feeling. I get the fact that they are going to charge more for an individual part than for the representative portion that was in the kit, but it still needs to be reasonable. $17K for two seats is simply not reasonable. WHile I can see taking the $11 plastic part to $19, you cannot apply that same approach to a $10K part.

This all really kind of sad. Vans built their reputation by charging fair and reasonable prices on pretty much EVERYTHING that they sold and up until recently was a starategy that made Van a wealthy man. I certainly agree that prices need to keep pace with the reality of their cost, however, these recent moves go totally against Vans business model for the last several decades. I can't say that I am surprised though. You bring in a bunch of outside consultants and they fill your head with all sorts of ideas that may work for other companies, but don't mesh with your culture. I certainly hope at some point they take a breath and re think some of these changes. And I REALLY hope that I never have one of the seats in my 10 break.

Larry
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They won’t - they were built by Oregon Aero…😁
 
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