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Old 11-30-2022, 05:24 PM
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Default Front Baggage Latch Blocks

Note Early fuselage.
What method did people use to locate and install the latch blocks in the early fuse.
I'm struggling with this.
Any pictures and any advice would be welcome.

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Old 11-30-2022, 05:30 PM
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The late fuse has the same problem. No good advice because it was a PIA for me to install them too. I mangled one set of latch block before I got it done
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Old 12-01-2022, 06:36 AM
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I am about to do this, maybe this weekend, so I am looking forward to any advice out there as well.
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Old 12-01-2022, 11:02 AM
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Default Challenging, but doable

It's a puzzler, for sure.
The first thing we did was to tape the receiver blocks into the best position we could manage. Put them in the place you'd want them to end up. Coat the end of the locking pins with lipstick or something, then close the door with the pins retracted. Hold the door as tightly closed as you can manage and then try to "lock" the door, which will extend the pins and mark their position on the blocks. Drill that hole.

Draw the line on the block to mark the centerline of the installation rivets. The blocks do not take marker well, so find the darkest marker you can find and draw as distinct a line as possible, because you've got to find it through the rivet hole.

I had a helper, so I hope the Force will be with you if you're doing this alone.

The next step is to find the hole in the block with the locking pins so you can extend the pins to the "locked" position to grab the block. You don't have to do both at the same time. Once you have a block "pinned" you can try to rotate it either by poking it through the rivet holes, or maybe from beneath with a long handled screwdriver? Get the centerline visible in the rivet holes, and remember to again, PRESS THE DOOR CLOSED before you drill those rivets holes into the block.

At least that's my version.
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Old 12-01-2022, 02:15 PM
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Default Blocks

Cookie monster

Thanks for your help.

The earlier kit does not have the pre-punched holes to locate the centre line of the blocks so I'm trying to work out where they sit.

Taking my time as I do not want to do this twice.

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Old 12-01-2022, 08:25 PM
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I made several sets of wooden blocks exactly the same size as the plastic blocks that I fitted through trial and error until I was satisfied with the fit then transferred the holes layout to the kit supplied plastic blocks.
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Old 12-02-2022, 12:22 AM
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Ahhh. No prepunched holes. Got it. Another fine mess you've gotten us into!

Maybe that's easier? No screw holes on the bulkheads and no screw holes on the blocks. Just the big pin receiving holes, once you do them.

Thinking back now, what about fabbing up some supporting wooden bits that are thinner than the blocks and would essentially pin the blocks into position so they can't slide around? Duct tape them to the bulkheads, and then set the blocks there? You could know pretty well where the blocks are by measuring to corners, etc. Then, once the large pin holes are drilled and the blocks are reset into their wooden cradles and PINNED there by "locking" the latch, you could drill your own holes for the screws? Does that make sense?

Again, remember to REALLY hold the door closed hard when drilling, so it closes tight once everything is installed.
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Old 12-02-2022, 07:21 AM
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Can someone post a picture of the PP holes that are used for the attachment of the blocks in a later kit, so that I can use it as an indication of where they are on my non pre punched kit

Thanks in anticipation.

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Old 12-02-2022, 10:15 AM
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Hope these help.
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Old 12-02-2022, 04:23 PM
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Thanks cookie monster

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