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Old 01-21-2022, 08:21 AM
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Default NTSB Asks FAA To Require CO Detectors For GA Aircraft

Required or not you should install one!

https://www.avweb.com/flight-safety/...ary+21%2C+2022
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Old 01-21-2022, 08:22 AM
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Default NTSB wants all GA to have CO detectors

https://www.avweb.com/flight-safety/...r-ga-aircraft/

31 accidents from 1982 to 2020 (38 years) attributed to carbon monoxide. Not sure this is (should be?) the highest priority for them, but...
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Old 01-21-2022, 08:25 AM
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common sense. they are inexpensive, lightweight and the batteries last a long time.
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Old 01-21-2022, 08:34 AM
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Great carbon monoxide story here...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MfzfP5CZBj8


And follow up...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9x9lJmTU538
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Old 01-21-2022, 08:46 AM
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Installed mine during build.
Really simple; all details are in Garmin G3X install manual.
Relatively cheap.

They are easy to install during build if using a glass panel, there is no reason not too. JMHO
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Old 01-21-2022, 08:30 AM
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Default CO detector

Walt: Do you have a preferred unit that you install? I will install one and hope that a different “certified” model isn’t required later by the gov.

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Old 01-21-2022, 08:32 AM
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I use the Aithre in my own airplane and with my panel installs.
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Old 01-21-2022, 09:00 AM
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I'm leaning towards the Forensics. Recommended by an FAA Safety Inspector/Friend.
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Old 01-21-2022, 09:07 AM
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Wander what good it will do in my Aircam? I do have one in my 14.
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Old 01-21-2022, 09:18 AM
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Default Forensics Lab for me

I use this: https://www.forensicsdetectors.com/p...hicle-aircraft

Also have the little stick on 'color dot' detector: https://www.mypilotstore.com/MyPilot...xoCoDkQAvD_BwE

That article is a hoot! It reminds me of a Safety message on a military base Marquee '47 Private Vehicle deaths this year, 37 wearing seat belts' You intuitively get the meaning but the actual information given doesn't support the desired conclusion, in fact it supports the opposite.

CO detectors may save your life, that's true. They may not help you at all, also true. The data lent by NTSB supports the latter. My Foresnics device has stopped functioning a few times, needing replacement. So far the useful life is less than a year. How much less I have no idea. The Aussie (Kiwi?) that runs that company is great to work with and a fun guy to talk to. When did my device stop working?...Who knows! There isn't any kind of functional built in test. If you want confidence in those devices you have to test them pretty regularly (before each flight?), and DON'T shove them up your car's tailpipe!

The color dot indicator also is predictably dead in the 12 months advertised. When do they become ineffective? I check them when I buy a new lot but after that have no idea.

Hypobaric Chamber training is probably a more reliable tool in your arsenal, good for all kinds of Hypoxia not just Hypemic Hypoxia.

Nice effort by NTSB, but not a valid Safety message. Imagine if the FAA agreed: We would then need to know that it works or should be working prior to flight, and if it does not?


Safety is no accident

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