I think it's called a Glastar.
Looking for a RV15.
When I find it, it will be High wing, go 150 mph, on 180hp, 26? wheels, plenty of baggage room. Something like DRs high wing RV Super cub thread.
I?ll build it fast. Where is it? I want it
That has the same problem as the -14, it requires a stupid expensive engine and prop combination.I think it's called a Glastar.
I know, it would be an interesting discussion.I would like to be a fly on the wall in Ryan?s and Greg?s offices
I think it's called a Glastar.
Currently, the best back country kit on the market is the S-21, hands down.
Problem is, there's currently a 14 month wait. That's a lifetime for us older guys!
This presents a huge opportunity for Vans to steal (read: jump into) this market. Obviously, there's a huge demand for this airplane. And there's room for improvement: an 0-360 option? I really like the 500-man-hour build time.
I suspect this hasn't gone unnoticed at the mothership. Come on Vans, you can make a lot of us really happy! I'm ready to place my order.
Doug, as Pat pointed out, there are many two seat options available. Also of the eight models in the current Van's lineup, only one is a four seater. The problem with the -10 and -14 is the cost. While selling well, a $150+K hoppy build is way out of reach for most builders.
A 2+2 model that can be built for the price of a -7, 8, or 9 would be outstanding!
Currently, the best back country kit on the market is the S-21, hands down.
Problem is, there's currently a 14 month wait. That's a lifetime for us older guys!
This presents a huge opportunity for Vans to steal (read: jump into) this market. Obviously, there's a huge demand for this airplane. And there's room for improvement: an 0-360 option? I really like the 500-man-hour build time.
I suspect this hasn't gone unnoticed at the mothership. Come on Vans, you can make a lot of us really happy! I'm ready to place my order.
The truth is that if you ordered an S-21 TODAY, you’d have your kit YEARS before an RV equivalent (unless the announcement from Aurora is coming as a New Year’s gift....and I have no way of knowing if it is or not.
Development time on new aircraft is a lot longer than people think - and then you have to develop the kit, the instructions, the support, get parts in the pipeline.... so while its a nice dream, dreams aren’t reality.
The Tundra has been out there for quite a few years, and didn’t sell many (I know, we have 300+ hours on ours) - the company is now for sale. Murphy has put out quite a few kits that meet Jay’s requirements, and owners love them. As we know, the S-21 is selling like hot cakes. Those are just the metal planes.
If you’re worried about “aging out” before a new kit comes out, then jump in and try one that’s out there and available. Or....wait and see what might be coming from Aurora. And no....I have no idea what that might be.
And I recently flew Steve Henry’s Yeehaw Seven - a Highlander with a 300 HP turbocharged Yamaha that fits under the same cowling as a Rotax. Yeehaw is right!!! Put that motor on a 2+2 and go take off from anywhere....
Lots of choices....
The truth is that if you ordered an S-21 TODAY, you?d have your kit YEARS before an RV equivalent (unless the announcement from Aurora is coming as a New Year?s gift....and I have no way of knowing if it is or not.
Development time on new aircraft is a lot longer than people think - and then you have to develop the kit, the instructions, the support, get parts in the pipeline.... so while its a nice dream, dreams aren?t reality.
The Tundra has been out there for quite a few years, and didn?t sell many (I know, we have 300+ hours on ours) - the company is now for sale. Murphy has put out quite a few kits that meet Jay?s requirements, and owners love them. As we know, the S-21 is selling like hot cakes. Those are just the metal planes.
If you?re worried about ?aging out? before a new kit comes out, then jump in and try one that?s out there and available. Or....wait and see what might be coming from Aurora. And no....I have no idea what that might be.
And I recently flew Steve Henry?s Yeehaw Seven - a Highlander with a 300 HP turbocharged Yamaha that fits under the same cowling as a Rotax. Yeehaw is right!!! Put that motor on a 2+2 and go take off from anywhere....
Lots of choices....
Glasair's glass parts are nothing like the Vans parts - no days and days of filling and sanding pinholes.
As I sit here reading back thru these posts (some very old), it brings me to one main question. I think Paul outlined the basis of my question...Paul detailed the fact that it takes a LONG time to design a new aircraft kit, and actually get it to market. So my question: Hasn't it been like what, six-years (?) since the RV-14 was offered? I surely don't mean this sarcastic by any stretch of the imagination, but what have the engineers been working on for the past 6-years? Surely something is in the works. That many staff engineers to provide build assistance and existing product support? Surely not?
**Full disclosure: I have a new home and hangar within a great Texas airpark community. I have a C-182 in the hangar, then I have nothing else going on in there. I sold my 12 when it was decided that I couldn't safely get my dad flying again, so I NEED A PROJECT. I have a blank check burning a hole in my pockets. A neighbor just bought a Legend Cub kit, and it is nice. I want a STOL-type kit, too. Do I order an S-21 and wait forever? Order a Legend kit and go pick it up two hours away? Or do I wait and see what Van's has coming? Man, decisions, decisions......might just force me to drink...on a Monday....
Give Van's till July 26th.
and I want an E/RV-15 (yes E = electrically driven )
Give it another say 20 years, with oil production costs climbing thru the roof, environmental pressure growing exponentially, demography following its non-linear curve, etc., the only way for private aviation to survive, talking medium/long term, will be if electrically powered, period.
So Mr., excuse me, Sir Vans, gimme an electrical -15 (no need for the -A derivative, thanks ), say like a -7, eventually -14 (with thinner wings maybe?), with the same performance and endurance.
Looking towards the future, many thanks for listening out!
Give Van's till July 26th.
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