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Old 07-06-2021, 03:56 PM
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Default Engine Control Placement

I'm looking hard at an RV-14A. I'm wondering why we don't see many if hardly any RV-14A's with the engine controls placed in a more ergonomic position like the center console as seen in the Socata TB-10 or TB-20?

It would be nice to drop the right hand down and have a hand on these controls with out reaching.

Socata's are are very comfortable as they were designed in an era when pilot ergonomics were a design consideration.
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Old 07-06-2021, 04:02 PM
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One of the reasons you don't often see this is that it takes up valuable space in a tight cockpit. When the time comes that you need to crawl under the panel, you'll see what I mean.
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Old 07-06-2021, 04:23 PM
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In addition to taking up unnecessary space, push/pull controls (with vernier mixture and prop) for me at least are more practical.

Iíll leave the quadrant in the RV-8 however.

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Old 07-06-2021, 04:47 PM
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Cleaning/changing the fuel filter would also be even more difficult.
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Old 07-06-2021, 07:58 PM
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It certainly could be done in a -14 (some RV-10s have a center console with quadrant), but it adds cost, weight, complexity, and as others have noted makes maintenance more difficult.
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Old 07-07-2021, 10:33 AM
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Thanks for the guidance, the replies make sense. Perhaps the quadrant engine control module only between the seats. Should be easy to unscrew and lift up for accessing fuel filter?
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Old 07-07-2021, 10:58 AM
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Should be easy to unscrew and lift up for accessing fuel filter?
That is not your main issue. Suggest you find a buddy with a 7 and try to access behind the panel on your back. Pretend you are soldering or crimping wires and installing tie wraps with one hand. Now imagine the incremental difficulty if there was a console in the way.

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Old 07-07-2021, 12:32 PM
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Isnít the canopy on the -14 easily removable? Seems the main benefit of the tip up canopy has been touted as better avionics access behind the panel?
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Old 07-07-2021, 12:37 PM
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Isnít the canopy on the -14 easily removable? Seems the main benefit of the tip up canopy has been touted as better avionics access behind the panel?
But not underneath. There's a lot down there you still can't get to from the top.
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Old 07-07-2021, 12:41 PM
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Isn’t the canopy on the -14 easily removable? Seems the main benefit of the tip up canopy has been touted as better avionics access behind the panel?
It is “removable”, but that would involve disconnecting wiring, too, which would not necessarily make it easy. Most of the avionics on and behind the main panel can be accessed from the seats or standing on the ground next to the airplane. In my case, there are additional things located behind the sub-panel, but aft of the firewall, which require some headstands/contortions.
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