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Old 05-31-2021, 09:04 PM
mcencula mcencula is offline
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Default Unbounded laziness?

Yes, that's laziness knows no bounds. Had to cut a bunch of notches in the F-703B panel stiffening angle. Instead of the usual drilling, cutting, and filing, I took an alternate route. Posting here in case anyone else aspires to be as lazy as I am:

Made a template (shown laying upside down here):

Used some guide bushings in the router with a 1/8" diameter router bit:

Test part (view from below):

Finished F-703B. Took maybe 1 or 2 minutes per slot.

A close-up view:

Have fun!
Mike Cencula
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Old 06-01-2021, 12:20 AM
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Brilliant 👍🏻
Life's short... Enjoy!

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Old 06-01-2021, 01:19 AM
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...or the clever and thoughtful use of tools and fixtures to make beautiful parts.

Nice work!
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Old 06-01-2021, 09:24 AM
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Nice idea and definitely worth posting. But it's too bad that you didn't round the corners while you were at it. It would have been easy then with the template being wood. Now it'll take a while.

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Old 06-01-2021, 09:41 AM
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Strong work!

Laziness.. the real mother of invention
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Old 06-01-2021, 10:49 AM
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Can't image sawing and filing all those slots. Here's the my solution to get out of doing that.
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Old 06-01-2021, 11:05 AM
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Congratulations, you have a bright future as a Prussian army commander.
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Old 06-01-2021, 12:55 PM
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Mike, looks great!

True story...Paul once proposed a Kitplanes article, the theme being builders can and do make the same part using multiple methods and various levels of technology. At one end of the scale, the assigned writer would use the full CAD/CAM approach, two more writers would use progressively less tech, while at the dumb end of the scale, I (being the caveman) would use nothing but the most basic hand tools....hacksaw, hammer, and file.

Here's the punchline. The part had a hole in it. I actually spent a few minutes considering the merits (editorial, not fabrication) of making a bow drill...a tree branch, some cord, and a block of wood to socket the free end of the drill.
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Old 06-01-2021, 01:07 PM
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Expanding on Dan's point a bit further, when the plans specify a method for doing a needed process, it is not meant to imply that is the only way or even the best way. It is usually a way that is chosen to fit within the inventory of tools and skills that the average builder is likely to have.

In fact, it a standards policy not to describe more than one method. Doing so has proven many times over to show the psychology of a home builder..... it inevitably leads to a tech support call asking "which one is better?"

Proof of a true home builder is analyzing a process and then deciding what the best means for doing it in a efficient manner is, based on what skills and tools they have available.

Good for you. You have earned the true home builder certificate.
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Old 06-01-2021, 05:27 PM
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There is a difference between working smarter not harder and being lazy this is definitely smarter and looks professional.
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