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Old 01-15-2022, 07:14 AM
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Hi Joe,

Thanks for all the info you provide here. I follow it as it's very informative and I like to learn stuff when I can.
Even if I have a MT prop, I presume they share most of the same inner mechanics and maintenance.

Maybe someone could change the title of this thread as the posts drifted to prop maintenance and care instead of Aeroshell #5 woes...???
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Old 01-15-2022, 08:15 AM
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Aeroshell 22 might work. Check the MSDS's
Aeroshell is NOT!!!!!! compatible with 6 0r 5!!!!

DAR Gary
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Old 01-15-2022, 02:55 PM
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meant Aeroshell 22 is not compatible with 5 or 6; 22 is synthetic, installed in all new hartzell props, 5 and 6 are not, will not lubricate properly when mixed with 22, there are other mill spec compliant greases, but verrrrry expensive!

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Old 01-16-2022, 10:11 AM
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Default found a source on eBay

eBay LINK >
https://www.ebay.com/itm/15454203758...wAAOSwRpNg-yIJ

It does appear that 5 and 6 and most all of Aeroshell stuff is not being produced now since a major fire at their plant.

WEB LINK Re plant fire>>
https://www.manufacturing.net/safety...-illinois-town

youtube report on plant fire (A SOBERING VIEW) >
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOrxANn92P0

The source on eBay advertises $45 + shipping for a 1 Gal (6.6 lb) bulk can.

I ordered one yesterday and got a response that it was shipping out to me UPS.

No manufacture date was listed. IMO, some 'new' grease has to be better than no grease when you need it and the price was very good compared to other listings on the web - most are in range of $300 +/- for 6.6 lbs.
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Old 01-20-2022, 03:10 PM
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Right from the Horses er Hartzell's mouth:
https://hartzellprop.com/top-tips-fo...r-lubrication/
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Old 01-20-2022, 03:46 PM
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Right from the Horses er Hartzell's mouth:
https://hartzellprop.com/top-tips-fo...r-lubrication/
Well they basically just stated what was already in the manual. No help/ clarification from them; but I honestly wasn't expecting anything from them other than "only use the original grease unless it is tore down" type of line.
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Old 01-20-2022, 09:27 PM
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Well they basically just stated what was already in the manual. No help/ clarification from them; but I honestly wasn't expecting anything from them other than "only use the original grease unless it is tore down" type of line.
I could go down a really deep path, but I won't.
Lawyers....
That is why I'm here. I work on airliners and military props mostly at work. I have a Cherokee 180 (Fine airplane). I'm pilot. I'm a 36 year FAA licensed Propeller Repairman, at probably the best FAR 145 prop shops in the world, also an A&P...
The whole experimental world fascinates me and scares me both at the same time. I think you can tell from the posts on this particular thread for my excitement and a little apprehension.
Anyway, I'll contribute as I can. I love airplanes and aviation.

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Old 01-21-2022, 07:05 AM
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Or just buy a Whirlwind with an oil filled hub and deal with 500 hour inspections. But given the "recommended" servicing of Hartzells with grease may cause other problems with leaks and the other potential problems identified here you may be better off with another brand of propeller and it may be less work and expense to deal with the 500 hour intervals.
Bob - which Whirlwind model are you referring to? My WW200RV has a 650 hour or 7 year teardown, not 500.
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Old 01-21-2022, 07:43 AM
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I could go down a really deep path, but I won't.
Lawyers....
That is why I'm here. I work on airliners and military props mostly at work. I have a Cherokee 180 (Fine airplane). I'm pilot. I'm a 36 year FAA licensed Propeller Repairman, at probably the best FAR 145 prop shops in the world, also an A&P...
The whole experimental world fascinates me and scares me both at the same time. I think you can tell from the posts on this particular thread for my excitement and a little apprehension.
Anyway, I'll contribute as I can. I love airplanes and aviation.
Yep I'm sure it is all a liability thing.

P.S. I enjoy reading your posts! You should start a thread and just occasionally post some awesome pics/ observations from your shop. You could title the thread "Prop musings by Joe". Haha Seriously, I think a lot of people would be interested in reading it.

P.S.S. Thanks for the link to the grease a while back, I ended up just purchases a can from them.
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Old 01-21-2022, 08:52 AM
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Bob - which Whirlwind model are you referring to? My WW200RV has a 650 hour or 7 year teardown, not 500.
No reference just had it in my head it was 500 hours. Maybe they bumped it up and it was that to begin with.

I was quoted $2K this week for a blade strip/paint/teflons/reseal for a Hartzell so I suggest anyone shopping for a prop take this into account when making a purchase decision.
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