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Old 12-01-2021, 09:07 AM
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Wait! You didn’t even consider the “tip-over” !!

It’s hard to beat the unobstructed visibility forward from the tip-up (our RV-6) or the tip-over (RV-3. Then again, last week I flew down to Tucson from northern Nevada in the morning in my RV-8, and was able to put the low winter sun right behind the HUD projector mounted in front of the roll bar - three hours with the sun directly in my face would have reminded me that roll bars have their place as well…..

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Old 12-01-2021, 09:31 AM
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An hour spent roasting in the conga line departing Oshkosh in late July as a passenger in a friend's tip-up convinced me to build a slider.
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Old 12-01-2021, 10:00 AM
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Cons---It's pretty expensive, and in most cases, it doesn't provide much lift.
Maybe this is a place for a new modification idea. As I recall, the space shuttle didn't have a lot of lift for a glider given the tiny wings, but the fuselage provided a decent portion of it. Same for the F-117.

I heard someplace that when the wings were swept for the F-14, the fuselage provided 70% of the lift. That seems really high to me, but it is hard to argue that the body shape helped.

I think I saw a video on YouTube of an F-15 landing with one wing.

Done right, maybe you can modify the fuselage to be a lifting body, too. Elevator controls pitch. Rudder and P-factor control roll. No need for wings.
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Old 12-01-2021, 10:52 AM
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Maybe this is a place for a new modification idea. As I recall, the space shuttle didn't have a lot of lift for a glider, but the fuselage provided a decent portion of it.
I heard someplace that when the wings were swept for the F-14, the fuselage provided 70% of the lift. That seems really high to me, but it is hard to argue that the body shape helped.
I think I saw a video on YouTube of an F-15 landing with one wing.
Done right, maybe you can modify the fuselage to be a lifting body, too. Elevator controls pitch. Rudder and P-factor control roll. No need for wings.
One good example of fuselage lift is the HiperBipe.
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Old 12-06-2021, 01:25 PM
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Slider for me for all the reason's given already. at sacrifice of fwd vis on tipper.

I would add building they are similar but fit and finish is more tricky to get perfect on a slider.

Last aerobatics and emergency egress with tip up with jettison option, but you can do similar "eject" pins in slider. Which reminds me has ANYONE EVER intentionally jettisoned RV6/7 canopy and bailed out?
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Old 12-06-2021, 03:45 PM
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Default Slider with SuperTrax

I have been in both but definitely prefer the slider. And you must get the SuperTrax canopy extension for a slider. It makes everything about my 7A better. It was installed, after mine was already built, by Base Leg Aviation..Vic & Nick Syracuse. Base Leg does excellent work!

Anyone still in the building stage should really consider this mod.
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Old 12-06-2021, 08:18 PM
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The inflight visibility is marginally better in the tipper, but letís face is, itís pretty good in the slider as well. With the slider, you not only ARE cool, you definitely LOOK cool taxiing in or out. And God forbid, if I ever have to make an off field landing, I would prefer a slider canopy over the tipper.
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Old 12-06-2021, 08:36 PM
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Pick either one. You'll be happy with the finished result.

And then you'll go on to proselytize why your choice is the best. ;-)
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Old 12-07-2021, 05:13 PM
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I have had both. I really like my slider with the canopy (super tracks) extension!!! I drowned some avionics with the tip up, plus opening into a tail wind is a recipe for replacement!

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