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01-29-2020, 01:36 PM
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SureFly feedback before I pull the trigger
Both mags on my carbed O-320 are due either 500+ hour inspection or overhaul. They both work fine but due to cost analysis I'm strongly considering replacing the impulse mag with a SureFly impulse ignition. I can purchase the SureFly for about the same expense as two overhauled Tempest Slicks. My lowest time mag (non-impulse) would get an inspection and light refreshing as necessary since it would be relegated to backup duty.
There is some SureFly feedback in the archives but not much current info. I would really appreciate field experience from RVers who are using this ignition. I intend to use it in fixed timing mode for simplicity--I don't fly enough hours to make an incremental saving in fuel burn a major factor.
Comments appreciated!
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01-29-2020, 02:01 PM
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I haven't owned a SureFly but did stay at a Holiday Inn last night ...
The SureFly doesn't have a generator, it's uses ship power, and if you're installing two, it's required that you have a backup battery system in place so budget for that, could get expensive and complicated.
PMAGs, in comparison, have an internal generator, no secondary battery necessary, but are a few hundred dollars more than the SureFly.
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01-29-2020, 02:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkervaski
I haven't owned a SureFly but did stay at a Holiday Inn last night ...
The SureFly doesn't have a generator, it's uses ship power, and if you're installing two, it's required that you have a backup battery system in place so budget for that, could get expensive and complicated.
PMAGs, in comparison, have an internal generator, no secondary battery necessary, but are a few hundred dollars more than the SureFly.
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As stated in my post......only going to replace the impulse mag.
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01-29-2020, 02:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Buchanan
As stated in my post......only going to replace the impulse mag.
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I need to stop replying to posts on my mobile without reading glasses ..  .. been trying to cross the 50 yard line without needing them 
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01-29-2020, 03:00 PM
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Not sure the prop you are using
Sam, apparently there has been an issue with the Surefly and "light-weight" props i.e. "kickback" on starting. My hangar neighbor had to return his Surefly because he has a Catto, and was getting the kick-back. There is a thread, somewhere on this from last Fall.
I do covet the Surefly for my impulse-side mag., just to make hot starts go a little easier.
Ron
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01-29-2020, 03:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RONSIM
Sam, apparently there has been an issue with the Surefly and "light-weight" props i.e. "kickback" on starting. My hangar neighbor had to return his Surefly because he has a Catto, and was getting the kick-back. There is a thread, somewhere on this from last Fall.
I do covet the Surefly for my impulse-side mag., just to make hot starts go a little easier.
Ron
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I also believe I read a post that had issues with getting TAC signal, but it might been more of complicated set op rather than an issue.
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01-30-2020, 04:40 AM
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I need to stop replying to posts on my mobile without reading glasses ..  .. been trying to cross the 50 yard line without needing them 
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Give in to aging old man....  (as I put my cheaters on)
Sounds like a few good comments from Experience. I'm a SDS fan, but I always like the idea of self contained EI, like E-Mag (P-Mag), easier installation and self powered. EI is a choice and have pros and cons. The SureFly being STC it is less flexible and likely more conservative timing. I am surprised it kicks back light props, it should put out a hot TDC spark for start.... but this can be an issue with EI.
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01-30-2020, 02:11 PM
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I need to stop replying to posts on my mobile without reading glasses ..  .. been trying to cross the 50 yard line without needing them 
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Ya, well, I got 3 days past the 40 yard line then I was done ....
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01-29-2020, 02:55 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Vaca Moo Airport - TA37 in East TEXAS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Buchanan
Both mags on my carbed O-320 are due either 500+ hour inspection or overhaul. They both work fine but due to cost analysis I'm strongly considering replacing the impulse mag with a SureFly impulse ignition. I can purchase the SureFly for about the same expense as two overhauled Tempest Slicks. My lowest time mag (non-impulse) would get an inspection and light refreshing as necessary since it would be relegated to backup duty.
There is some SureFly feedback in the archives but not much current info. I would really appreciate field experience from RVers who are using this ignition. I intend to use it in fixed timing mode for simplicity--I don't fly enough hours to make an incremental saving in fuel burn a major factor.
Comments appreciated!
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How much does it cost to overhaul 2 mags? I should be there by the end of this year.
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01-30-2020, 09:54 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Georgetown, Texas
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Surefly
Love mine! I have it on an IO-360 200hp and one slick. My engine runs better, my hot starts are significantly better because of it. It works well with my G3X touch system. I put a battery back up on it which was no big deal so it will run if I lose electrical. It is straight forward to install, super simple and has a TBO of 2400 hours. You can do the math on overhauling slicks every 500 hours. The support is great at helping you install it. When I got mine almost 2 years ago they shipped it set up for my engine. Pretty awesome.
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