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09-01-2023, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bavafa
A possible correction to the Garmin post, looks like th newest guide is rev Y.
Edit: I am curious what happens to the existing calibration. Is it retained and if so, is it retained with flaps down or flaps up.
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Rev AU
https://static.garmin.com/pumac/190-01115-01_au.pdf
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09-01-2023, 10:40 AM
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Rev AU is for the installation and Y looks to be for the Guide.
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09-01-2023, 10:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bavafa
I am curious what happens to the existing calibration. Is it retained and if so, is it retained with flaps down or flaps up.
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The installation manual makes it pretty clear that the second calibration curve is optional. Any AOA calibration you currently have will be used for both flaps-up and flaps-down conditions, unless you choose to revise your calibration.
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09-01-2023, 11:34 AM
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GDU 4XX v9.31
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Originally Posted by dmattmul
Added support for second AOA calibration curve for flaps-down configuration
Justin, is this available with VPX controlling the flaps? I don’t think it can be but can you confirm?
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Yes, the G3X Touch will use flap position as provided by the Vertical Power unit, to determine which calibration curve to reference.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bavafa
A possible correction to the Garmin post, looks like th newest guide is rev Y.
Edit: I am curious what happens to the existing calibration. Is it retained and if so, is it retained with flaps down or flaps up.
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Nothing will change relating to AOA calibration upon updating your system, an existing AOA calibration will be retained and flap position will have no effect on AOA indications. You will however have the option to perform a second calibration, if properly equipped. Once complete, flap position determines which calibration curve is referenced at any given point in the flight.
Thanks,
Justin
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09-01-2023, 12:24 PM
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scenario
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Originally Posted by g3xpert
Yes, the G3X Touch will use flap position as provided by the Vertical Power unit, to determine which calibration curve to reference.
Nothing will change relating to AOA calibration upon updating your system, an existing AOA calibration will be retained and flap position will have no effect on AOA indications. You will however have the option to perform a second calibration, if properly equipped. Once complete, flap position determines which calibration curve is referenced at any given point in the flight.
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Justin
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This is better than what i have now, but lets think this thru.
I calibrate one settings for flaps up, and I calibrate another setting for flaps down full. My flaps position goes thru the GEA24 and displays on my G3X.
If i am at partial flaps, which AoA curve is used?
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09-01-2023, 12:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PilotjohnS
This is better than what i have now, but lets think this thru.
I calibrate one settings for flaps up, and I calibrate another setting for flaps down full. My flaps position goes thru the GEA24 and displays on my G3X.
If i am at partial flaps, which AoA curve is used?
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If a flap position sensor is used, the system will reference the Flaps Down calibration curve anytime flaps are extended beyond the position corresponding to halfway between full flap extension and full flap retraction.
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Justin
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09-01-2023, 01:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by g3xpert
Nothing will change relating to AOA calibration upon updating your system, an existing AOA calibration will be retained and flap position will have no effect on AOA indications. You will however have the option to perform a second calibration, if properly equipped. Once complete, flap position determines which calibration curve is referenced at any given point in the flight.
Thanks,
Justin
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Thank you Justin, I believe I was not clear with my question and it was a dumb one to begin with. Somehow I thought if I go thru the calibration, maybe my existing one will be retained and be used as one of the setup.
Now, that I had coffee, I do understand that when I go thru the calibration, all will be new and will need to be setup for both flap up and down.
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09-01-2023, 02:40 PM
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Thanks and related question
[quote=g3xpert;1709511]Yes, the G3X Touch will use flap position as provided by the Vertical Power unit, to determine which calibration curve to reference.
That will help us Vertical Power users with AOA set-up flaps up and at least 50% flaps down calibration. Is there a way to use our flap and trim inputs from the Vertical Power system in the Advanced Guage Configuration set up? Without this Vertical Power users cannot use this feature since we can't set a logic signal to a flap or trim input or at least I have not found a way.
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09-01-2023, 03:49 PM
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Vertical Power EIS Data
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Originally Posted by dmattmul
That will help us Vertical Power users with AOA set-up flaps up and at least 50% flaps down calibration. Is there a way to use our flap and trim inputs from the Vertical Power system in the Advanced Guage Configuration set up? Without this Vertical Power users cannot use this feature since we can't set a logic signal to a flap or trim input or at least I have not found a way.
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We are glad to know our users are excited about the recent updates. We built this feature around the native G3X Touch EIS interface, which is of course a bit different from the serial VP-X EIS data stream, but I will raise the concept of incorporating VP-X derived data into the logic signal function with the team for consideration/feasibility, to see if we can work it into a future software update.
Thanks,
Justin
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Last edited by g3xpert : 09-01-2023 at 04:15 PM.
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09-01-2023, 04:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by g3xpert
We are glad to know our users are excited about the recent updates. We built this feature around the native G3X Touch EIS interface, which is of course a bit different from the serial VP-X EIS data stream, but I will raise the concept of incorporating VP-X derived data into the logic signal function with the team for consideration/feasibility, to see if we can work it into a future software update.
Thanks,
Justin
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Thanks, the Advanced Guage System Garmin designed is truly cutting edge.
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