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Old 11-18-2022, 12:06 PM
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Dave, I'm not sure what the needs may be but I'll be happy to help if I can. I'll send a PM. Cheers, Ken
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Old 01-09-2023, 04:48 PM
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Some progress, both positive and negative.

The morning class with Ron has completed their practice kits. When the wing stand is done they'll start those.

The vertical stabilizer team in the afternoon class made decent progress and was nearly ready to assemble, but unfortunately I didn't watch close enough and the top two ribs, which needed some trimming at the front, got trimmed too far and there wasn't enough edge distance to the skin rivet holes. They got scrapped. New ones on back order. The team has most of the remainder of the parts primed (faying surfaces) and will start assembly this week.

I broke off Mack (top photo this thread) to head the second team in the afternoon as we have more students available. His team is starting the anti-servo tab, chosen to be relatively inexpensive should they mess up any parts.

With the vertical stabilizer on track, the remainder of that team had some available time, so they are pulling out the stabilator parts to start deburring them.

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Old 02-02-2023, 05:54 PM
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Here are some of the students beginning the assembly of the vertical stabilizer.



In general, all the kits are on order and we have the tools we need, more or less. We have the fuselage, wings and empennage kits here and are working those - the morning group has started the wings and the second afternoon team is making progress on the anti-servo tabs.

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Old 02-02-2023, 07:16 PM
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Great job Dave. It really does me good to see these kids building.

One note; I would REALLY like to see safety glasses on these kids.
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Old 02-02-2023, 08:59 PM
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They wear them drilling. Using the Milwaukee pullers, with the cage for the ends, I didn't think there was any need.

We'd just opened our second one; box in foreground.

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Old 02-02-2023, 10:09 PM
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Glad to see this project “taking off!!!”

As a mentor with Teen Flight (Hillsboro OR) it is gratifying to see groups getting going.

The students you work with will be forever changed by the experience


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Old 02-03-2023, 10:40 AM
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They wear them drilling. Using the Milwaukee pullers, with the cage for the ends, I didn't think there was any need.

We'd just opened our second one; box in foreground.

Dave
The Milwaukee pullers are absolutely fantastic. I love mine.

I helped run a student shop in college. Our rule was, if your foot was inside the room, you need to be wearing safety glasses.
We had a big cabinet right by the door.

There are two reasons, practical and cultural.

Practically speaking, it's not really sound to base your PPE on what only you are doing.
Someone else can be doing something that can put your eyes in danger, and that can happen unexpectedly.

The second reason is it sets an attitude. It provides a little mental nudge of "I am in the shop, with the dangerous stuff."
It can also make it much more easy to pick out when someone has wandered in, and should not, or doesn't need to be there.

Also, in terms of providing vocational training, it's what will be required in real shops and factories.
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Old 02-03-2023, 11:41 AM
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The Milwaukee pullers are absolutely fantastic. I love mine.

I helped run a student shop in college. Our rule was, if your foot was inside the room, you need to be wearing safety glasses.
We had a big cabinet right by the door.

There are two reasons, practical and cultural.

Practically speaking, it's not really sound to base your PPE on what only you are doing.
Someone else can be doing something that can put your eyes in danger, and that can happen unexpectedly.

The second reason is it sets an attitude. It provides a little mental nudge of "I am in the shop, with the dangerous stuff."
It can also make it much more easy to pick out when someone has wandered in, and should not, or doesn't need to be there.

Also, in terms of providing vocational training, it's what will be required in real shops and factories.
+1 SOP in our shop at CSU.
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Old 02-03-2023, 11:53 AM
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Our rule was, if your foot was inside the room, you need to be wearing safety glasses. We had a big cabinet right by the door.
There are two reasons, practical and cultural.
Practically speaking, it's not really sound to base your PPE on what only you are doing.
Someone else can be doing something that can put your eyes in danger, and that can happen unexpectedly.
The second reason is it sets an attitude. It provides a little mental nudge of "I am in the shop, with the dangerous stuff."
It can also make it much more easy to pick out when someone has wandered in, and should not, or doesn't need to be there.
Also, in terms of providing vocational training, it's what will be required in real shops and factories.
My thoughts exactly! We only get one set of eyes. Please protect them.
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Old 03-04-2023, 02:31 PM
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The vertical stabilizer is now finished, as are the anti-servo tabs. That team, Elizabeth, Emma and Karla, are now working on the stabiliator. The team headed by Mack is working on the rudder.

The morning class is building the wings. I think they are working on the spar assembly.

The finish kit has arrived and inventory is nearly complete - Elizabeth's team is working on that along with some other students, on the days when I'm not at class.

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