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Old 11-30-2022, 10:31 AM
Dalpilot Dalpilot is offline
 
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Default What to look for when buying an older secondhand kit?

Iím looking at several peoples RV8ís that are partially built quick builds. This is my first build and I would like to know what to look for when looking at the kits. One is newer and one is from 2001. Any big gotchaís to look for?
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Old 11-30-2022, 10:40 AM
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Default Vans has some guidance.

https://www.vansaircraft.com/faq-tec...d-hand-rv-kit/
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Old 11-30-2022, 10:47 AM
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Perfect, thanks.
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Old 12-01-2022, 07:28 AM
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Default suggest you get a pre-buy

Kits need a pre-buy or examination by an rv expert. Here is a brief narrative of what actually happened to an rv-10 kit buyer.


From Base Leg Aviation web page:https://baselegaviation.com/prebuy-inspection/
"He (Vic) recently examined an RV-10 kit advertised as 95% complete. The riveting was so bad throughout the entire aircraft that it is a restoration project. The buyer dodged a big bullet on this one. Unfortunately, a first-time buyer purchased this kit a few months later without a prebuy examination. He got a second opinion, confirming the results. He was out $35K".

Vic's Pre Buy Guide for Amateur-Built aircraft also shows hundreds of pictures of problems in finished aircraft.
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Old 12-01-2022, 09:44 AM
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Default Known problem areas

First things I would look at.
1. Random shop heads 1/8" & 3/32". You'll know pretty quick if the rest of the airplane should be inspected.
2. HS Mounting holes. Not sure if it's the same on an 8. It's one of the toughest spots to drill perfectly. Virtually no edge distance to spare. A borescope will give a good look.
If those two pass mustard, then start digging deep.
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Old 12-01-2022, 12:03 PM
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Be sure the keys are included to the gas caps that are locked in the fuel tanks.

Also be sure the B-nuts on the vent lines inside said tanks are adequately tightened and slathered with polysulfide (I didn't say Pro Seal or FlameMaster on purpose ) for good measure.

The voice of experience.
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Old 12-01-2022, 02:42 PM
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If those two pass mustard, then start digging deep.
Haven't heard that phrase before. Made me chuckle.
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Old 12-01-2022, 04:07 PM
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I found lots of stuff AFTER I got it home. If you see many bad rivets and double hole snowmen then donít bother looking further. Youíll only find more junk. I looked past a lot of that thinking I would repair it. However itís just the tip of the iceberg. Long story short Iíll be removing both upper Longerons and whatever else I find. Whatever you think youíll be saving you wonít by the time you get stuck with all the extra work and replacements. Unless itís sitting in the hangar of a former award winning builder do yourself a favor and buy it all new from Vanís.
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Old 12-01-2022, 06:30 PM
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If those two pass mustard, then start digging deep.
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Haven't heard that phrase before. Made me chuckle.
“Pardon me, do you have any Grey Poupon?"

"Pass muster". Spellcheck probably got him.
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Old 12-01-2022, 06:37 PM
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N82VM - PM sent.

Look at the rivet work. Flashlights and inspection mirrors. Make sure EVERY access panel, and inspection cover is removed.

If the builder has taken the care to make the work look ďprettyĒ, there is a good chance the build is good. Also good builders are proud of their work. If you get a bad vibe, be forewarned.
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