Just got her back! Jonathan did an outstanding job!
https://evokeaircraftdesign.com/completed-works/vans-rv7-n922wt
https://evokeaircraftdesign.com/completed-works/vans-rv7-n922wt
What do such paint jobs cost these days? After painting three airplanes myself I’m looking at new options.
Carl
There are definitely cheaper paint shops out there, but I will say you get what you pay for! Evoke is the best!
Give me some numbers.
Carl
Give me some numbers.
Carl
There are definitely cheaper paint shops out there, but I will say you get what you pay for! Evoke is the best!
My goodness, how homebuilding has changed...
SNIP
RV-10 Signature Series paint starts at $32,900. Worth every penny.
I have always admired Vlad’s choice, and bold plane usage.
Cal
Well, what can I say. Prices have gone up on just about everything these days. Some people choose to spend $40k or more on their panel. Or take a shortcut with quick build. I did the slow build, modest panel, and chose to put that money towards a high quality paint job. The beauty of it is we all get to decide for ourselves.
I have always admired Vlad’s choice, and bold plane usage.
Cal
$30K buys a lot of AV Gas. Bare bones may be the answer.
Your airplane looks fabulous!
Judging (pun intended) by the number of awards received at SNF and OSH for airplanes designed and/or completed by Evoke, there isn't anyone close.
RV-10 Signature Series paint starts at $32,900. Worth every penny.
Well, what can I say. Prices have gone up on just about everything these days. Some people choose to spend $40k or more on their panel. Or take a shortcut with quick build. I did the slow build, modest panel, and chose to put that money towards a high quality paint job. The beauty of it is we all get to decide for ourselves.
It’s not disdain and no one is arbiting an appropriate price for a paint job; it’s just pure sticker shock. While the quality may be fantastic and it’s great that he has dudes lined up to throw money at him, methinks the majority of builders can’t justify spending that kind of coin for paint. I certainly couldn’t or wouldn’t spend that much… I just don’t feel the need for 35000 bucks worth of paint on my simple RV-8.I am amazed at the self-appointed arbiters of what is an appropriate amount to spend on a paint job. When I checked a few minutes ago, there were 155+ airplanes on the Evoke Signature Series queue (mine included) - so clearly there is an incredible demand for Jonathan's product and level of quality.
What I used to think might be disdain for those of us who don't do our own paint and go to someone like Jonathan is probably something else. Don't let them get to you.
Where HAVE all the builders gone?
Steve, your plane is beautiful!!! Congratulations and great job and getting it across the finish line. You did a super job!
Now for some venting......
I'm always amazed at some of the reactions to those of us that paid the price to have Jonathan paint our planes. I got the same type of reactions after winning Reserve Grand Champion at Sun N Fun in 2021. I was super proud of my plane, yet the response to my award on this forum was the accusation that I wasn't a "real builder" because I paid such big money to have someone else build my plane. As if painting the plane is the only test of whether or not you're a "real builder".
If paying a vendor to complete some portion of your plane makes you less of a builder, I'm curious, where is the line drawn? Do you need to stitch your own leather in the interior? Do you need to machine your own pistons and build your own engine from scratch? Does buying an interior accessory from Aerosport Products disqualify you? Heck, for that reason, does buying a Van's kit disqualify you? After all, can't you buy aircraft aluminum and cut and shape and drill your own holes for a lot less money? Wouldn't that make you a "real builder"?
We all choose different paths to complete our planes. But paying a quality vendor premium dollars to complete the paint does not disqualify anyone from the title of "builder".
Again, congratulations Steve!!! You're plane looks awesome and you deserve our admiration as a true "builder"!
We all choose different paths to complete our planes. But paying a quality vendor premium dollars to complete the paint does not disqualify anyone from the title of "builder".
Steve, your plane is beautiful!!! Congratulations and great job and getting it across the finish line. You did a super job!
Now for some venting......
I'm always amazed at some of the reactions to those of us that paid the price to have Jonathan paint our planes. I got the same type of reactions after winning Reserve Grand Champion at Sun N Fun in 2021. I was super proud of my plane, yet the response to my award on this forum was the accusation that I wasn't a "real builder" because I paid such big money to have someone else build my plane. As if painting the plane is the only test of whether or not you're a "real builder".
If paying a vendor to complete some portion of your plane makes you less of a builder, I'm curious, where is the line drawn? Do you need to stitch your own leather in the interior? Do you need to machine your own pistons and build your own engine from scratch? Does buying an interior accessory from Aerosport Products disqualify you? Heck, for that reason, does buying a Van's kit disqualify you? After all, can't you buy aircraft aluminum and cut and shape and drill your own holes for a lot less money? Wouldn't that make you a "real builder"?
We all choose different paths to complete our planes. But paying a quality vendor premium dollars to complete the paint does not disqualify anyone from the title of "builder".
Again, congratulations Steve!!! You're plane looks awesome and you deserve our admiration as a true "builder"!
An old debate.
In the not distant past, most homebuilders would have sided against any sort of pro-built participation in aircraft judging, the exception being warbirds. Twenty years ago I recall a phone conversation with senior authority regarding how we should handle the issue at regional fly-ins. At the time, the view was shifting, due to an avalanche of builder assistance. It's now accepted practice, and in truth, it has been very good for the community.
So no, in this new age, the purchase of services does not disqualify. But my friend, please remember, those who do everything themselves may quite rightly take considerable pride in their hard-earned results. It's not unreasonable to express that pride, so please don't take offense.
How do the judges evaluate amateur builder vs pro work?
What if a super well built airplane doesn't have a fancy pro paint job or any pro builder assist? Doesn't it deserve recognition. Isn't that what it's about?
I'm just wondering how they judge one against the other.
Why speculate? You can read the EAA judging manual for yourself:
https://www.eaa.org/airventure/eaa-...~/media/3af9f4ae6ae940949b7cfbfcbd953322.ashx
How do the judges evaluate amateur builder vs pro work?
What if a super well built airplane doesn't have a fancy pro paint job or any pro builder assist? Doesn't it deserve recognition. Isn't that what it's about?
I'm just wondering how they judge one against the other.
...please remember, those who do everything themselves may quite rightly take considerable pride in their hard-earned results. It's not unreasonable to express that pride, so please don't take offense.