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Old 12-19-2017, 08:16 PM
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The easiest solution is to just keep your required documents in a zip-loc bag, and keep that in a pocket in the plane. It protects them and leaves them easily accessible for inspection. Airworthiness, registration, and any not often used cheat sheets for avionics are in mine.
Well, strictly speaking, I think the A/W certificate is supposed to be visible.
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Old 12-19-2017, 08:40 PM
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Well, strictly speaking, I think the A/W certificate is supposed to be visible.
Correct
That one document must be viewable at the entrance of the aircraft. The rest can be tucked away somewhere safe.
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Old 12-19-2017, 08:43 PM
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Yep! Just follow you operating limitations. You must place the aircraft back into phase I for testing if the replacement is not the same make and model as the one removed.
And submit a new 8130-6 to FAA if changing of a fixed pitch from or to a controllable propeller.
8130-6.... would that apply to going from a Ground adjustable whirlwind to a Catto?
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:28 AM
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Yep! Just follow you operating limitations. You must place the aircraft back into phase I for testing if the replacement is not the same make and model as the one removed.
And submit a new 8130-6 to FAA if changing of a fixed pitch from or to a controllable propeller.
Wee detail (of which I'm sure Mel is aware); Many of the older operating limitations out there (like those issued in the 90's for example) included a requirement to inform the FAA and receive a response prior to resuming flight after a "major change". Most assumed it meant a letter to your local FSDO (and a wait for a written response), but there was confusion/variation all around. The provision was removed from later wording, but if it is in yours, well, as Mel said....just follow your operating limitations.
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Old 12-20-2017, 07:36 AM
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Wee detail (of which I'm sure Mel is aware); Many of the older operating limitations out there (like those issued in the 90's for example) included a requirement to inform the FAA and receive a response prior to resuming flight after a "major change". Most assumed it meant a letter to your local FSDO (and a wait for a written response), but there was confusion/variation all around. The provision was removed from later wording, but if it is in yours, well, as Mel said....just follow your operating limitations.
As Dan says, op lims have changed over time. Regardless of when yours were issued, they are the controlling document. If you prefer a later version, then you must have yours amended. Until that time, you are bound to the op lims issued to your aircraft.
Is that confusing enough?
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Old 12-20-2017, 07:54 AM
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My original ops limits didn?t provide the ability to fly IFR. Called up the FSDO, sent in the paperwork and had new docs in 2 weeks. Painless process for anyone else interested in updating theirs.
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Old 12-20-2017, 09:07 AM
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8130-6.... would that apply to going from a Ground adjustable whirlwind to a Catto?
No! Ground adjustable and fixed pitch are regarded as the same in this instance.
Only when changing to or from an in-flight controllable propeller do you need to submit a new 8130-6.
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My original ops limits didn?t provide the ability to fly IFR. Called up the FSDO, sent in the paperwork and had new docs in 2 weeks. Painless process for anyone else interested in updating theirs.
Did you add any equipment to make it IFR capable and then wanted the ops limits changed or was it always IFR capable but just limited on the paperwork?
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50+ years...never been ramp checked, although I did have a buddy several years ago who was an FAA safety inspector.

Do those guys have to provide credentials? I'd be pretty reluctant to let someone go through my paperwork unless I was certain of their bona fides....
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Old 04-21-2022, 07:13 PM
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50+ years...never been ramp checked, although I did have a buddy several years ago who was an FAA safety inspector.
Do those guys have to provide credentials? I'd be pretty reluctant to let someone go through my paperwork unless I was certain of their bona fides....
Yes They DO!

Only time I've been ramp checked is when I was flying under a waiver at an airshow.
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