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Old 10-23-2014, 07:19 PM
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Default How to choose a "good" route when Filing ?

I'm hoping one of our ATC trained members can help me with this one:

I'm in the process of training up for my Instrument Proficency Check. Once I get current again, most of my trips will be departing from an uncontrolled airport.

In an attempt to avoid always copying a completely new route in the air, are there any tips for filing IFR flight plans which will match up well to what ATC is likely to want me to fly? Is there a way to get the preferred/expected route while still on the ground?

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Old 10-23-2014, 08:58 PM
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I would use the Jepp preferred routes.

Look at the "from" airports for Norfolk & Washington and then pick a destination airport that is close to where you want to go.

You should be able to build an acceptable route.

They also have low altitude routes that allow you to transition areas like DCA/IAD.
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Old 10-23-2014, 09:26 PM
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Default Telephone Clearance

Haven't done this in a hundred years but at one time if there was no radio contact with ATC or FSS on the ground you could call them for clearance on a phone, they would read you the clearance: 'ATC clears N12345 to KXZY via blah blah blah climb and maintain xxxx on departure contact _______ 123.45 squawk code "clearance is void if not off by xxxxZ".'
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Old 10-23-2014, 11:09 PM
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A void time clearance. I've done those in the pre-cell phone era, calling from a phone booth, running back to the plane to get off in the allotted time.
Because this clearance ties up a chunk of airspace for 5-10 minutes, ATC may give you a clearance that keeps you clear of busy routes, until they've got you on radar and in contact; then you get the popular or better route.
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Old 10-24-2014, 12:00 AM
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Foreflight will give you a number of good routings (I think they are based on historical data) once you put in your departure and destination. I find the simplest usually work...but then again, we're out west of the Mississippi in the wide open spaces....
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Old 10-24-2014, 07:14 AM
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Default Clearance Delivery by phone

I am based at an uncontrolled airpprt and whenever it's IMC I call Lockheed Martin clearance on my cell. Now that I have Bluetooth in my com panel it's especially easy.

CD dedicated number is 888-766-8267.

They will want to know departure and destination, runway of departure and when your going mg to be ready. Will read you a normal clearance with your VOID time.
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Old 10-24-2014, 07:17 AM
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And when you file the IFR flight plan with ForeFlight, they will email you in a few minutes with the expected route. At uncontrolled fields, I call 888-766-8267 for the clearance when within 5 to 10 minutes of departure.
I recently learned that you can file IFR from a cow pasture by using a VOR radial and distance to designate the departure airport.
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Old 10-28-2014, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Ironflight View Post
Foreflight will give you a number of good routings (I think they are based on historical data) once you put in your departure and destination. I find the simplest usually work...but then again, we're out west of the Mississippi in the wide open spaces....
I've found that it frequently works well along the east coast, too - I filed from KCPK to KANP using the Foreflight-suggested routing, and the clearance the controller read back to me was exactly what I had filed.

The only oddity was that they read the entire clearance of saying "as filed".
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