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10-30-2021, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by riseric
Thanks Geaorges for these well made points. All makes sense.
Not flying yet and about to do TW training.
Would a passenger and bagage in the back of a 4 or 8 increase the tendency to ground loop as more weight even further back the mains (CG further rearward) want to go forward???
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the quick answer is yes, mostly due to the fact that the CG is shifted rearward making the aircraft less stable and making it very "touchy" on the controls.
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10-31-2021, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by riseric
Would a passenger and bagage in the back of a 4 or 8 increase the tendency to ground loop as more weight even further back the mains (CG further rearward) want to go forward???
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As said CG moves back. The big thing especially RV-4 is the elevator feel is much lighter, less elevator to flair and required input different, than solo.
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Originally Posted by Robert Sailor
I can't count the number of tailwheel checkouts I've done over the years but certainly a ton of them.
If students learning on tricycle gear aircraft were held to the same standards as tailwheel students by their instructors then tailwheel checkouts would be a lot shorter in time.
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Tailwheel aircraft are not all equal either with some requiring a very high level of skill.
RV's, Cubs Cessna140, 170's and Citabrias are on the super easy level with Pitts, Texans near the top and Pacers and Luscombe near the middle.
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Agree 100%, concur. Spoken like a man who knows TW planes.
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11-01-2021, 03:41 AM
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I especially enjoyed the Pauley/Rozendaal videos. Yesterday while flying my RV-6 I tried to observe the adverse yaw. Rocking the wings I could not discern any yaw while cruising at 100 kts. Does the 6 exhibit adverse yaw?
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11-01-2021, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by hoyden
I especially enjoyed the Pauley/Rozendaal videos. Yesterday while flying my RV-6 I tried to observe the adverse yaw. Rocking the wings I could not discern any yaw while cruising at 100 kts. Does the 6 exhibit adverse yaw?
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I loved it when Doug said "See that over there? That's the centerline. It's where the professionals live." |
11-01-2021, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Sailor
Tailwheel aircraft are not all equal either with some requiring a very high level of skill.
RV's, Cubs Cessna140, 170's and Citabrias are on the super easy level with Pitts, Texans near the top and Pacers and Luscombe near the middle.
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To be fair, Pitts' vary to a massive degree. The king of the sensitive tailwheel airplane is an S-1 with the standard bungee gear and steerable leaf spring tailwheel. Put spring or rod main gear on it and it gets "easier". Then add a locking tailwheel and you have an airplane any 172 driver would feel at home in.  |
11-01-2021, 09:15 AM
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I loved it when Doug said "See that over there? That's the centerline. It's where the professionals live."
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Ha! I heard the same thing when I did my DC-3 type rating ride with Doug back in July... but I'm only 5-10 feet left! And there I was trying to be all professional and whatnot. Busted!
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11-01-2021, 10:11 AM
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... when I did my DC-3 type rating ride with Doug back in July... but I'm only 5-10 feet left! ...
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That must have have been a real good time! Congrats! |
11-01-2021, 02:03 PM
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RGood
This thread reminds me of my old instructor friend who was checking me out in the club sky diving Cessna 195. He was a believer in 3-point only landings on our 1900 ft dirt runway. "If you still see the runway at touchdown you missed it". (I owned a 1954 C-180 back in the late 60's.)
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11-01-2021, 02:05 PM
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Good Reading
This thread reminds me of my old instructor friend who was checking me out in the club sky diving Cessna 195. He was a believer in 3-point only landings on our 1900 ft dirt runway. "If you still see the runway at touchdown you missed it". (I owned a 1954 C-180 back in the late 60's.)
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RV-9A Slider, N188GK Project, now flying, O-320-B1A, Catto 3 Blade NLE, G3X Touch System
Restored Taylorcraft BC12-65
Exempt but proud contributor
Jerry Kinman, VAF 170
Keller, TX (T67)
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03-07-2022, 06:50 PM
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Join Date: May 2021
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I fly airbus for a living...so feet have got lazy....going to have to learn to pedal again when I get my 7 finished. flown taylorcraft, tiger moth, citabria and c-170. long time ago...nothing particularly hard there...but they did teach me to pedal... 
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