VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

-POSTING RULES
-Advertise in here!
- Today's Posts | Insert Pics

Keep VAF Going
Donate methods

Point your
camera app here
to donate fast.






VAF on Twitter:
@VansAirForceNet

  #1  
Old 09-17-2022, 04:21 PM
BrianP BrianP is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Winnipeg,MB
Posts: 27
Default New Canadian RV 10

Hi guys. Iím new to this forum. My son and I are ordering an RV 10 kit. Just wondering if there are any Canadians here that have ordered a kit recently and have any info on the new luxury tax on airplanes. Does it apply to these kit planes?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-17-2022, 05:45 PM
Ralph Inkster Ralph Inkster is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Posts: 2,010
Default

Not for the kits themselves as they aren't over $100k.
I don't know what might be in store for you when it comes time to register your plane and TC possibly relays that on to Revenue Canada & maybe then they allot some sort of value to the finished plane. Maybe then, you might be assessed LT to the value over the $100k...
Maybe you should try contacting COPA and see if they have any read on what will be.

Lots of maybe's
__________________
Ralph
built a few RVs, rebuilt a few more, hot rodded more, & maintained/updated a big bunch more
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-17-2022, 09:13 PM
Funguy's Avatar
Funguy Funguy is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 147
Default Ambiguous Legislation

Guidance on this can be found at:
https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-age...s-tax-act.html

Take a look at the applicability section and it appears to only be triggered by a sale, importation, lease or improvement.

About halfway down, there is a section on improvements but it does not appear to apply to building an aircraft.

I am sure that if this is presently a loophole, they will eventually get around to closing it. It will be interesting to follow the first case...

Cheers, Sean
__________________
RV6, Flying C-GOFG
CLA4 - Holland Landing
Toronto ON
Donated to December 2023
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-18-2022, 03:47 AM
Pelley Pelley is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Fort St. John, BC
Posts: 3
Default

I think itís pretty hard to value. The labor ďvalueĒ was work done for free essential, it wouldnít be fair to be taxed on your free labor. Outside of that maybe they could put a value on the materials but even then they are stretching i think. Iím not going to worry about it for the time being, and my accountant agrees with that plan. Ultimately we are just small fish in this new tax scheme.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-18-2022, 07:27 AM
BrianP BrianP is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Winnipeg,MB
Posts: 27
Default

Thanks for the input. Itís just so hard to know based on what is published so far. Iím sure more people finishing planes in the next year or two will get some experience with this. Kind of a grey zone right now.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-19-2022, 05:34 PM
BrianP BrianP is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Winnipeg,MB
Posts: 27
Default

Do you guys happen to know how much duty you have to pay when you bring the kit across the border?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-19-2022, 05:38 PM
Flying Canuck Flying Canuck is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Red Deer, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 696
Default

No duty, you'll pay GST/PST/HST as applicable where you live along with freight and brokerage. Watch out for the last one, it bites. There are ways to self clear and cheaper brokerages than the shipper defaults. I have used clearit.ca
__________________
Claude Pitre
RV-9A #91081, C-GCPT
Dynon SkyView HDX, IO-320 and WW 200RV C/S. Flying as of August 6, 2018

Added GPS 175 and authorized for IFR April 1, 2021

Interactive map of all of my flights here
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-19-2022, 05:46 PM
BrianP BrianP is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Winnipeg,MB
Posts: 27
Default

So then Iím guessing itís not quite as simple as having it shipped to a US address and going down with a trailer ?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-19-2022, 06:11 PM
DerekS DerekS is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 89
Default Actually.....

Actually, if you are set up to do that - it is.

My experience was as follows:

Show up, tell the officer what you've got. Airplane parts are NAFTA so no duty. You will get picked out, go to the office show the invoice to establish the value, swipe your credit card for the sales tax and be on your way.

As always when you drive across, if they want to, they can look at closely as they want, which is the YMMV.

Derek
__________________
Glasair IIRG - Flying
RV-10 - Flying off my 25 hours
Lake LA-20 - Bought
2022 dues paid
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-24-2022, 12:30 AM
rc82 rc82 is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
Posts: 3
Default

Derekís experience mirrors my own, however Iíd add that if youíre lucky they may just waive you through without bothering to collect the sales tax. This past July they simply said ďhave a nice dayĒ when I drove my empennage kit across and declared the value.

So if youíre able, Iíd absolutely recommend driving down to grab it and bring it across yourself.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:21 AM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.