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Old 07-13-2021, 10:36 AM
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There is a variety of tools available for installing Adel clamps. Just search Adel clamp installation tool. I have never used any of them but some look better than tearing up your fingers.
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Old 07-13-2021, 11:09 AM
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There is a variety of tools available for installing Adel clamps. Just search Adel clamp installation tool. I have never used any of them but some look better than tearing up your fingers.
Is pure rage on that list because that's what we ended up using to install them
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Old 07-13-2021, 11:17 AM
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There are some modified vice grips that look promising.
Away from home some safety wire should work. If using two clamps wrap the clamps with wire separately, get the bolt or screw started, then unwind the wire, cut one wire and pull it loose.
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Old 07-13-2021, 02:37 PM
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Default Hanging engine

Once hung, the rest is just bites off the elephant.
I hanged mine solo. Took maybe 30 minutes. Here's my trick.
Make a drift pin from a cheap bolt.
Hang the engine from the hoist and insert one top bolt and hardware. Refer to plans and be absolutely certain the parts are installed correctly.
Insert the other top bolt and hardware. Now comes the trick.
Out the hardware in place on the bottom. Raise enough to slip in the drift pin.
Lower just till there's pressure to hold everything. Slip out the drift pin and slip in the bolt.
Repeat on the other lower.
Took me longer to torque than to install bolts and hardware.
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Old 07-13-2021, 05:44 PM
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Default Adel Clamps

Yes, I installed a (hundred) bunch of them FFWD... and you will also...
Yes, I sometimes used the small visegrip and pin to hold and align them...
Yes, I bruised my fingers and hands despite the "specialty tools...
Yes, I loudly voiced a variety of unplublishable words to sensitive ears...
Yes, Adel are a fabulous way to secure lines, hoses and wire bundles...

Here's a trick I thought of when the visegrips could not be used because of restricted space, (because you will have to install Adel clamps in cramped areas) and if you have big hands...

Use small 4" zip ties to hold the clamps almost completly closed. You will be able to move them as they are not tight yet. Use a pin to align the holes and voilà !!!

My cat's name is Adèle... That was before I had to deal with ADEL...
She would most probably have another name if I knew...
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Old 07-14-2021, 08:29 PM
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Default Adel Clamps

I came to terms with Adel Clamps as soon as I stopped using Hemostats, and started using BOTH the Vice Grip style Adel Clamp tool (aircraft tool supply) to get it closed, then Safety Wire to keep it closed. Installing these is now pretty quick....two mated together in about 2 minutes....with confidence.

Figure this out. Know what feeds and energizes your building energy and what sucks and consumes it. Don't let the adel clamp do that.
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Old 07-14-2021, 10:08 PM
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Default Safety Wire Trick

I used the safety wire to close the Adel clamp together and freed my hand to manipulate the through bolt. I didn't realize the picture wasn't focused but this picture is in my build log.
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Old 07-15-2021, 10:36 AM
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Regarding the dynafocal mounts I have a short "bullet" that will come out the front when the bolt is lightly tapped in place and a longer bullet with a T handle welded in place. Between the two I can usually do the four mounts in 15/20 minutes.
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Old 07-15-2021, 11:38 AM
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Regarding the dynafocal mounts I have a short "bullet" that will come out the front when the bolt is lightly tapped in place and a longer bullet with a T handle welded in place. Between the two I can usually do the four mounts in 15/20 minutes.
You do realize with that kind of statement, someone is going to call you out.
I am about to install my engine, I bet you a six pack at Osh that you cant do it in 20 min. I will even pay up front at the Osh beer tasting in a week or so.
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Old 07-15-2021, 12:32 PM
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You do realize with that kind of statement, someone is going to call you out.
I am about to install my engine, I bet you a six pack at Osh that you cant do it in 20 min. I will even pay up front at the Osh beer tasting in a week or so.
It is true my friend. If you remember I had a mag issue that caused me to have to repair a gear in my accessory case. I installed the mounting bolts multiple times. (didn't like leaving the engine dangling on the lift at night) I could easily get it done in that time frame. The first time took me about 45 minutes. The last time I did it, less than 10-15. That being said, it would appear some have more misalignment than others making the process longer for some.
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