February 28, 2018. Issue
Charlie Kearns RV-8 Takeoff 52F.
Interior Sound Reduction ...BSwayze entry and discussion
My RV-7A isn't quite flying yet, so I can't give
a report on effectiveness, but I installed some
soundproofing from Aircraft Spruce. I will also
install carpet, so I hope to get a double benefit. I
found this on someone else's website, and it really
impressed me. This guy was installing some
soundproofing in his RV. The benefits not only go
toward reducing some of the noise inside an
airplane, but provide some insulation and vibration
Winter Ops PIREP/Question ...martinair
yesterday was probably the coldest day for my
1998 RV4, which was buildt in California. OAT was
-15°C (5F) in FL85, and the oil temperature never
exceeded 63°C (145F). Usually I am keeping that
around 90°C (194F). during descent, even though I
kept the revs up, cyl 2 cooled down to 85°C CHT
question: for the next flight, my idea is I just use
some duct tape, maybe strenghtened with a small
sheet of aluminium, for example on the lower half of
both inlets, to reduce the amount of cool air coming
what do you guys think, how is your experience in
winter flying, what do you do?
A Special Request
If any VAF readers have access to a large format
printer I would
like to hear from you if at all possible.
I'm on the board at 52F and we are in need of a
large printout from the Denton CAD Webmap site of
our airport (https://www.dentoncad.com/gis/)
to hang on the wall of our airport office.
perfect world, we need to be able to see the
property ID number clearly - with or without sat
layer. We have a wall that is
7.5 feet tall by 12 feet
wide. Covering most of that wall
with an airport map would be the plan - something
suitable for stick pins and such.
I can offer 5
billion Dougy Bucks* for your kind help. And,
"This map made possible by the most awesome Your
Name" will appear on a label under the map.
And we can pay for the printout...
*Dougy Bucks are made up of unicorn flatulence.
RV-7 Panel/Cabin Photos
...and about a billion other photos! <g>
New Guy Chimes In
I joined the force a few months ago and
figured it was time to introduce myself to the
membership. My name is Harry Maroney and I am a
retired commercial pilot, ex-military (C-141), and
have experience as a first officer in several
business jets. I am an aviation enthusiast and have
owned several certified aircraft, most recently, a
I met Vlad, perhaps the most prolific flier at N51
where he keeps his RV 9A.
He is a great Van's enthusiast, flier, and goodwill
ambassador and introduced me to the Van's
experimental world. I no longer have my Duchess and
have been reading up on all of the Van's models to
learn of their different attributes. I like them
I have never built an aircraft but enjoy and
appreciate the cooperative spirit and dedication
displayed by the members. I've learned a lot in the
short time I've been a member and plan to purchase
an RV in the near future.
So, I broke a Tungsten bucking bar, in half. ...CubedRoot
Well, this is the first time I
have ever seen this. While working on my flaps the
other night, I was happily riveting the top skin to
the spar, and I noticed that my bucking bar
I keep it wrapped in athletic tape to make it easier
to handle, and to keep it from scratching my
surfaces on the non-bucking ends. But after about 20
rivets or so, I noticed it felt "floppy". After un-wraveling
the tape, my heart sank just a tiny bit. One of my
favorite tools had given up the ghost...
Jaybird Has Some Stuff For Sale
West Coast Formation Clinic Application Process Closes Wednesday
So says AX-O...
February 27, 2018. Issue
RV'ing for a gone west EAA'er ...crabandy
Thank goodness for the low
ceilings/temps on Saturday, I could make the
re-scheduled due to weather memorial fly-over for
Ralph Bond (Gone West EAA'er) on Sunday afternoon.
It's been months since I've gotten to fly with
McDoogle and my little boy's been bugging me daily
to go flying. Mid day temps around 50 degrees as we
saddle up and get ready to light the fires.
Looking for web pages and photos of RV-7/7A panel & cabin forward
I'm at a similar point an here's what I'm doing.
You might find it useful. I'm planning to buy all
Dynon stuff so I got the unit dimensions from their
website and made up cardboard replicas so I could
play around with positions. Turns out that I will be
able to fit everything on the aft face of that panel
just forward of the instrument panel. What this
means (I think) is that I can reasonably expect to
be able to install it all after riveting on the
forward top skin, but just removing the instrument
panel for access.
Show us the status of your 8/8A project! ...Don Patrick
Another quick update.
Here is the rudder masked, blue shot, then the
Horizontal stab this week, elevators next week, and
the wings are getting done after March break. The
fuse will hopefully be done mid April.
RV-9A, C-GCPT, Flying Canuck (starts a build log thread)
Hit a couple of milestones on my RV-9A project
this past weekend, so time to post a few pictures.
I logged my first time on this build 3 years ago
today. This past Friday afternoon, C-GCPT climbed
out of my garage/workshop and onto a trailer to make
the cold 18 km journey to its new airport home,
meeting up with the wings that made the trip 7
Cowl Misalignment With Inlet Ramp ...Bootscooter RV-14
I was pleasantly surprised that all you had to do to
fit the lower cowl was to trim to the scribe line,
some fine tuning with block sanding and it fit
Except for one area and that is at the cylinder #2
inlet ramp, the cowl is about 3/16" blow the ramp.
The top cowl and the prop spinner are aligned where
they should be.
The fix for this would be to trim the cowl further
back and fibreglass/flox/and make up a new rubbber
Just wondering if anyone had any pics of this
process and how it turned out?
New Guy Chimes In...Dallas
February 26, 2018.
Saturday morning it rained, so Suz and I treated ourselves to a
game date in the afternoon to see our Baylor Lady Bears play TCU 45
minutes from our house. $10 walk up general admission tickets
and free parking. Found some seats 20' from the court and
enjoyed a nice, affordable game. Fun to finally see Kristy
Wallace and 'The Trees' Lauren and Kaloni play in person. Much
better than TV.
Hope you had a nice weekend. Go Bears.
15min to tipoff
Mo's Fly-in - Ottawa River - 29th Edition ...terry.mortimore
Hi Mark, that RV-6A would have been me! Sorry I missed you, we
had to wait for the weather to lift around Sudbury. I think you were
just leaving when we arrived.
That was fun, thank you to Mo and all the volunteers that put it on.
Hope to see you next year.
(PIREP from Terry.mortimore)
So, you learn something every flight. Here’s what I
I use Fore Flight to file my flight plans, yesterday
on the way down we had a 4 knot tailwind. We were 2
hour 25 minutes going down. When I filed to come
back Fore Flight used the mornings winds aloft to
calculate the time enroute.
So there I was fat, dumb and happy at 10,500, but
only seeing a 140 mph ground speed. As a result we
we’re 3 hours coming home. When I called London
Radio to cancel my flight plan I got a stern lecture
on being overdue.
Now, this was the same guy I talked to twice for
weather. Once south of North Bay and once North of
Gore Bay. I was on 126.7 which is also the frequency
for London radio for the last portion of the trip. I
had it in mind to update my ETA when I called for
weather at Gore Bay, but I let it slip. My Bad!
So the take away is that I have to update fore
flights weather, before flying a return trip on the
same day. Normally I’m within WIFI when l’m planning
a flight, darn no WIFI at Mo’s.
If I had thought about it I could have used the hot
spot on my phone to update the weather, or I’m
thinking I’m going to try one of those Scout ADS-B
in receivers. That way I will have on board weather
when I’m close to the US border.
California Custom Purple Metal Polish...BHunt
I decided to try polishing as long as I could
stand it. I don’t need a show quality finish so thought I’d give CA
Customs Purple Polish a try.
3D flap bracket fairing RV-9 ...Steve M
...finally getting around to removing the tape and securing these
aft fairings (grey to white) with a dab of goop. upon inspection,
all fairings look good. no signs of wear or distress on anything.
Arizona Family History Trip ...crabandy Trip Write-up
[ed. I featured this Friday, but over
the weekend Andy added some more pictures and words.
Absolutely worth visiting again! v/r,dr]
3D Printed Ignition Wire Guides ...KJBSouth
Our 3D printer is a Wanhao Duplicator 6 purchased
at a 3D printer store north of Tampa. After the magnetic oil door
latch, I turned my attention to other 3D printable parts. As
Experimental Aviation Association members we have access to
no-charge personal use copies of SolidWorks Design Software.
Tip When Posting in the Classifieds
If you don't want there to be any discussion going back and forth
on your entry, simply click the 'Close This Thread After You Submit
Your Message' box. Couldn't be easier! v/r,dr
On the Ramp at Graham, TX Sunday
Sid M. photo. Sid Mayeux ‘s KELLI GIRL
RV-7A. Jay Pratt’s BORROWED HORSE RV-8. Blake
and Monica Graham’s RV-7. Sid said there were
also RV-10, 7, 6A and 4 models represented.
February 23, 2018. Issue
Somehow Oregon's rain ended
up in N.Texas for the past few days (and the next few). I
don't know how you folks up in the rainy NW stay sane.
Wishing you and yours a happy, rain-free, safe and RV-filled weekend.
Scorch in the Flare ...RV-6 @ 52F.
Looking for web pages and photos of panel & cabin forward ...Bill
Hi Larry ... here's how my bird is coming
together. I elected to build a avionics tray that
mounts to the bottom of the ribs from the firewall
to the subpanel. It's secured by piano hinges; the
pins come out the front side of the subpanel and it
simply drops down and can be removed for maintenance
I'm going Garmin, so this panel holds the remote
comm radio, transponder, EIS box, battery backup and
CO detector. All wiring from the aft comes through
four connectors in the tray near the firewall:
Wing Incidence Problem ...efitzgerald RV-7
I temporarily mounted the wings.
After making relief notches to clear a rivet at the
top of the rear spar stubs, the sweep and
triangulation is less than 1/16" off.
But when I check the incidence with the rear spars
lined up to the bottom of the flange:
The left wing is 0.2 degrees high on the trailing
end at the tip.
The left wing is 0.1 degrees high on the trailing
end at the root.
The right wing is 0.0 degrees at the root
The right wing is 0.1 degrees low on the trailing
end at the tip.
The best I could do was to lower the stub of the the
left wing spar approximately 3/32""
The left wing is 0.1 degrees high on the trailing
end at the tip.
The left wing is 0.0 degrees at the root
The right wing is 0.0 degrees at the root
The right wing is 0.1 degrees low on the trailing
end at the tip.
So it appears that there is some twist to the wings.
Also the flap / fuselage interface is not going to
the same on both side as the left is slightly lower.
Edge distance is not a problem, there is lots of
room. This is a quickbuild kit, the quality seems to
be good other than a lot of scuffs and scratches.
Q: What are you recommendations?
One tenth of one degree is pretty good IMHO. You
would not even see that with an old fashioned bubble
level used by builders pre digital age.
One of my wings had about .2 degrees of twist. I set
the incedence in the center of the wing and guess
what, it flies straight and level with the ball
centered. A tenth of a degree is nothing. One of my
flap skins also has about a 1/8-3/16 joggle to meet
the bottom of the fuselage.
A: I seem to
remember this in a search. Basically the consensus
was make them both the same at the measurement point
in the plans. I did ask about sweep and was told
make them the same. A call to Vans would be prudent
before drilling the rear spar holes.
quote an old saying, "BUILD ON!" Your errors are
WELL within build tolerance.
200kt GS Club ...jbell2355
In the process of installing dual Dkyview HDX. I
am getting a message 'Skyview Network Connection
Fault - Data 2 Pair (Pins 4 & 8)'. At the same time,
Skyview is not detecting my two AP servos nor the
Adahrs. Any ideas would help.
want to ring out your serial/network cables for
proper continuity and make sure you don't have
recessed pins in any connectors. If both screens are
showing the same error, look for a common connection
to start troubleshooting.
A: I have seen
this problem with a bad auto pilot servo, but
usually it is a network cable that is not working
correctly. Go into the settings and then to network
status and see what devices are showing the fault.
This should help you figure out where the problem
A: Start here. Check the pin locations
in the AHARs. I had them wrong. Once put in the
correct locations all three will be detected if the
rest of the wiring is correct. Can’t for the life of
me figure out why I had them in the wrong locations,
but I did.
"I would like to thank the persons who replied to my
post. It did turn out that the adahrs was wired
incorrectly. It is now up and looking very happy Now
on to the ap servos that have not been detected
52F's New Windsock in the Works
...sock models Pokey and Dixie (aka Barky and
enlarge ...Rob Reece photo.
And there is actually some specifics in doing
See this 11 page PDF doc.
SB 18-02-02 PIREP ...found crack (John Clark RV-12)
90512 290 hours on the Hobbs. I had not applied
dye penetrant before but had watched the application
on larger part.
Facing forward, it was at the right outboard hinge
bracket, upper bolt nutplate, inboard rivet. It was
about 1/8 inch and went into or came out from under
the rivet. The good news is I need only one stop
drill whereas it appears to me the SB example would
I needed the dye to see it. In fact, I missed it the
first time with the dye but was not satisfied with
the developer cover, too thick I thought. Since it
was a tight area, the spray dye was too much and is
probably still wicking down the spar toward the tip.
I did spray it lightly.
The next 3 or 4 times I wiped the dye on with a rag.
Wiping on seemed effective as long as I kept the
surface wet. Cleanup was much easier.
Once I knew where the crack was, I could see it with
a 10x loop or use the macro setting on the camera. I
could not have found it without the dye.
I tried it four times instead of three because when
I wiped the third test, I could see the crack but
could not see the end. On the fourth test, I center
punched the spot with the dye and developer still
showing the end, I hope.
The servo tabs did not present a dye indication.
February 22, 2018.
Question: Does anybody reading this use one of the
HP ENVY Curved All-in-One - 34-b025xt computers at home?
Pic right. My 9-yr old Gateway DX4840 desktop (3.2GHz
and 6GB ram running Windows 7), the PC I currently use to build this
daily edition for you, is finally starting to make noises from its
power supply. I've been turning it off for the past month or
so when I'm not using it to maybe keep it alive for a tad longer.
I bought it an hour after the last one went kaput.
It might be time to finally break down and get a new computer. I've
been looking at the HP all-in-one as it would turn my 2-monitor
system into one monitor - there are 8 software packages I need open
simultaneously to do my work. I need the desk space. ;^)
Arizona Family History Trip ...crabandy RV-7
On a previous trip to AZ, we left our contact
info at an Old cabin/homestead in the Arizona
Mountains. Long story short my Great Uncle Ivy's
side of the family whom we've never met contacted us
and we set up a family reunion. My dad tends to
worry about a lot of things, I was planning on
picking him up in Wichita at 6:30 am for our flight
to AZ. After a 4 am txt about it being "awfully
windy," I headed to the airport for an early start.
There were strong gusty winds from the north down
low which beat the 40 knt headwinds at altitude.
There were also some narrow bands of OVC that we
went on top of. Watching the sunrise behind us
flying over an overcast.
In Regards to Sideslipping RVs
No one has really explained why slipping may
become a problem and why you probably got the
First of all they slip well. However, depending on
how the fuel tank was built and how much fuel is in
the down wing could lead to an engine stoppage.
This happened in our RV-9.
If your down wing tank has flop tubes this is
unlikely to happen as it will still be able to pick
If the down wing tank has a standard pick up tube
and it is low on fuel the fuel flows away from the
pick up in the down wing. Of course it will take a
few minutes for the carb to empty but FI may be
affected by it pretty quickly.
So if you are going to slip, make sure either you
are on the raised wing fuel supply, have plenty of
fuel in the down wing is still taking fuel from that
tank, or there is a flop tube in the down wing.
In our case the engine restarted soon after the
wings had been leveled but the pilot got a nasty
surprise when it stopped initially and then again
when it started making power again.
Upcoming IAC (International Aerobatic Club) Events
2017 was my first full year of aerobatic competition
and what a year it was! Last year started off with
the IAC judges school in March and then the
Snowbird Classic March 2017, Dunnellon FL
Sebring Aerobatic Championship May 2017 Sebring FL
Bear Creek Bash June 2017, Rome GA
East Coast Championship, November 2017 Sebring FL
200kt GS Club Entry ...Janekom
Need help w/Fuel tank sender possible weeping screw
the first annual since putting this rv6a back
online. There were no apparent leaks before this,
but this year’s annual revealed some blue staining
around the sender after I took the wing root fairing
off. It appears to me that the leak is just a
weeping screw based on the pattern of the stain and
the gummyness of the pro seal around that screw.
Then again, the pro seal that has been touched by
the fuel is also soft enough that I can scratch it
off with my finger in places.
If it is the screw, can I just drain the tanks, wait
for it to dry, and apply some new sealer after
scraping the old stuff off? Is there anything else
that might work better for this application than
proseal? Wicking loctite?
Or does it look like I’m going to have to pull the
tank and remove the sender and do the whole thing?
Please Welcome Our Newest Van Cave Team Members
...Moppy II and Squeegy I. We
look fwd to their many years of service. And
yes the locals can borrow them. ;^)
February 21, 2018. Issue
Moppy 1 experienced a multi-year corrosion induced
hardware failure at the Van Cave on 2/20. She was a really
good hangar mop.
Farewell, Moppy 1, and we thank you.*
The Ladies at Van's Aircraft ...getting some much deserved
RV-7 Panel/Cabin Forward Pic Submit ...Raymo
A pic of my slider sub-panel. The hole left of
the EMS module goes fwd through the firewall. The
hold left of the transponder goes fwd and down
between the pilot/copilot for things like AP, trim,
flaps, lights, etc. I also have some circuit
breakers on the panel for things I want direct
control or visibility over
How He Moved It ...9GT
You can not beat a rollback deck flatbed. Make
sure the deck is wide enough for the -10. The first
truck he came out with had rails on the side that
were about 6" high for tie-offs. Not wide enough! He
had to go back and get the true flat deck. You can
see the tires are just barely fully on the deck. Did
it on a low traffic Sunday morning. Under $100.
How He Moved It ...upperdeck
I used a flatbed tow truck for my 7. They were
pretty excited to help, charged me $100.
Engine Dehumidifier Musings ...Michael Henning
I assembled a dehumidifier today. It is a fish
tank air pump that feeds into the bottom of a
12”long (vertically oriented)x 3” diameter pvc pipe.
I screwed one end cap to a board, then glued the
pipe to that, with a threaded end cap for the top.
On the base, I tapped in a brass fitting for the air
from the pump, and filled tube with blue desiccant
that turns orange when saturated. Off of the top
cap, I tapped in a air tool filter/dehumidifier as a
final filter, and tell tale for the desiccant inside
the tube (the filter from harbor freight also has
the blue desiccant visible). From that filter I put
a barbed adapter to connect the plastic airline to
my engine oil breather tube. It continuously pumps
dry air through engine.
Comments??? Concerns??? And, no, I don’t have my
breather tube notched.
New RV Flap Actuator - New Product Intro ...VAF advertiser
We are pleased to announce the
introduction of our new RV Flap Actuator. We have
been testing 3 prototypes in our RV-6 aircraft for
the past 6 months with excellent results.
February 20, 2018. Issue
Tuesday morning at 0800 the winds were 50
kts at 3000 feet, and two hours later it was 50 kts at 6000 feet.
Overcast, warming and humid enough to turn the hangar floor into a
slip and slide. Obviously it was a maintenance day. :-)
Please excuse the early push on the Tue edition - board mgt tonight at
John Goodloe RV-8 Rotating.
Weekend with the Grandson ...MarkW
Found out last week that my son
will be moving further away. This makes seeing the
grandson more difficult. I have in the past been
able to fly from Orlando to Charleston SC on a
Friday afternoon, pick up the grandson and return
him Sunday evening. A move to Virginia will make
this a little more difficult.
So I decided to take advantage of the good weather
and RV speeds and pick him up this weekend for
another visit before the move.
Due North to Minneapolis ...Pete Howell
Andi and I have been helping to
care for her mom down in Ames over the last few
months and Little Kate is a sophomore at Iowa State
- so the RV kinda knows the way all by herself.....
The heartland terrain is not exactly exciting, but
add a bit of sunset and some settings on the camera
phone, and it looks almost sexy!
From the flight home Saturday - complete with JJ
Abrams lens flare!
RV-12iS forward lower fuse mating problem ...B.Collins
I wonder if there are supposed to be two more
slots on the forward end of the mid fuselage skin.
When you make the lower forward fuselage, there are
two large -- for want of a better word -- ribs that
rivet to the bottom skin and the firewall; these
also hold a engine mount bracket/gusset.
You don't rivet the most aft hole on each, though,
because those are common to the mid-fuselage skin
Damage to foot box? RV4 ...337 Driver
This is some damage from a
previous accident 25+ years ago that is left on an
RV4 I'm looking at. The owner claims this area is
non structural and it passes air worthiness. What
say you RV experts? The wings were replaced at the
time of the accident so I have to question why this
was not repaired even IF its non structural and
deemed air worthy.
Nose wheel pant bracket
Q: A couple of the brackets that
secure the nose wheel pant are broken on my -7A and
Im trying to figure out the correct part numbers to
order. Vans is closed today, but searching here I
found a reference to V-1013C-L and -R. However, I
need both front back brackets and I dont think they
are identical, so I have missed something. Can
anyone help me out?
style. I believe your looking for; U-813D Left
& Right. U-813C Left & Right
Build Status Report ...Andrew Z RV-7
Some Interior Shots ...Luke
...spotlighting James Jula RV-7A
February 19, 2018. Issue
Jim Turner's RV-14A (pics)
Weekend went quick. Got a short flight Saturday
after the showers, but Sunday was OVC and BR. Mass, some
grocery shopping, watching LivePD off the DVR, lotsa computer time
and the weekend was in the books. Hope yours went well too.
A few of us saw Jim Turner's recently painted RV-14A the other day
(picked it up from GLO). Stunning! Jim visited with us
for a few minutes (really like that callsign) and he was kind enough
to let me take some pictures. The blue REALLY stands
when you see it in the pattern. Just a beautiful plane up
close and from a distance. Pictures
HERE. Thank you Jim!
New topic: Might anybody have an idea how to tie my Byonics
MT-AIO APRS tracker
(right) into ship's power? It goes through (8) AA batteries
like nobody's business, and I haven't been using the tracker for the
last couple months because of that. The
user manual says, "The Micro-Trak AIO was designed primarily
for battery powered operation using the internal battery pack. The
Micro-Trak can be operated off any clean external source of DC that
does not exceed 13.6 Volts." It uses a little battery
holder that is 4 wide by 2 deep (picture right). A standard
9-volt battery connector plugs into it. Tips appreciated.
Last: Congrats to the Tate Man, son extraordinaire, on his
1yr anniversary at Freddy's Steakburgers (his part time job).
First job. He got a pin for his work cap (below).
Alton Bay Feb 2018 ...Dvalcik
Cold crisp day in Maine and conditions were most likey the best
they would be before Alton Bay closes, so off we went. Short hour
flight with Temps -15c at 3000 feet and plenty of sun shine we
arrived at Alton Bay, NH (B18). They were closed on Friday due to
warm weather and standing water on the ice. Got down to -2 last
night and refroze on the surface. Good news no water, smooth and
level conditions, on the other side of the equation smooth,
slippery, glazed Ice. It was just like the Zamboni had been working
overtime last night. No braking and virtually no steering with the
castering nose wheel. Actually I had to have a little help on the
way out taxing, you can see in the video below.
First RV-Grin From Inside the Future N904KM ...longranger
I needed to remove the control column to adjust the stick angles,
and couldn't reach it from inside the airplane, so I took the
opportunity to document the first time sitting in the airplane.
RV-8 to Lunch ...Steve Rush
Last Monday (2/12/18) was also a nice day in the top left corner.
A friend and I headed to Bremerton for lunch, then on out to the
coast for some sight seeing. Bremerton is a nice lunch place, but I
really wish there was still a restaurant at Hoquiam.
Builder inflicted spar damage
Hopefully damage overstates the severity of the issue! Looking
for some advice as to how I should prep the ding made by an errant
Thanks in advance!
RV8Squaz Wood Tail Lift
Here’s my version of the wooden Tail-Mate. I’ve
got inverted oil on my airplane and the quick drain
is on forward part of the sump. Consequently, I like
to raise the tail high enough during oil changes to
ensure I drain all the oil. I super-sized my
Bob Meyers RV-14A Ready for Its Closeup
While I finished and first flew my 14 last June,
I just finished getting it painted last month.
Here are the beauty shots.
3D Printing Design Tweaks ...Steve M.
the more I looked at this it is apparent the off angle of the
cable to the rudder bar will wear the components. the upper clevis
aft outer hole edge and the forward upper alum bar hole edge and aft
lower bar hole edge. I added a lube hole to the fwd upper to fairing
to be able to add lubricant easily with a spray tube like LPS or one
a drop or two of heavier lube with a syringe. the lubricant will
pass under the bolt head to the shank. still working the cotter pin
attachment method and need to adjust the clearance of the fairings
to the bar but some progress. I'm really trying to stop dragging my
nuts thru the air stream.
RV-Lancair Brotherhood Day ...2/18 PIREP
Sorry about your cold. Darwin had to cancel
today, too, due to having a cold so don't feel bad.
In fact, Owen was the only RV guy that made it
today. By pure luck, though, another Lancair
happened to fly in from the Atlanta area and park
next to me. We invited Andrew and his passenger
Taylor to eat with Owen and I and we swapped lies
about our true airspeeds for about an hour. Andrew
is a corporate jet pilot and flies his Lancair for
fun. Owen was commiserating over the SB as well, but
the food at the Runway Cafe was good as always. They
were really busy today since the weather was
absolutely beautiful and everybody has been socked
in for two weeks.
Transition Training with Mike Seager
Just got back from 3 days of transition training
with Mike Seager. I'm in Alabama, he's in Oregon, wasn't sure it
would work but SouthWest had $330 flights so I booked it.
I highly recommend his transition training. We spent 6 hours flying
and as you can imagine it was mostly pattern work.
At the very end he turned off the EFIS and had me rep the pattern
without any avionics which was a lot of fun and some of my best
approaches and landings.
We did a simulated engine outs, etc.
His field is a grass strip and my first takeoffs and landings off a
paved runway (rental companies won't let you land on grass strips).
Most of our work was done at a nearby paved airport.
Mike is a wonderful person and a patient instructor, wish I had an
excuse to go back for more. Loved the work and the visit!
Highly recommended, 5/5 stars.
February 16, 2018. Issue
Wishing you and
yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend. v/r,
18-02-02 (RV-12) ...8 page PDF.
VAF Forum thread on SB 18-02-02
SBs All Models
Backyard Method ...Scott C
"This works, too, if you don't mind putting local
vegetation to the test with ratchet straps."
Possible New Mold for old style lenses needing replaced ...donagin
"Vacuum Forming Lenses? If anyone has a set of
old lenses that are crazed or hazy, they could be
used as a mold to vacuum form several sets.
I'd be interested in trying - but someone has to
have originals for me to get the dimensions right."
Lenses from old kit no longer made. 120* angle.
Status Report ...rvanstory RV-10
Today is the day! I finished section 29! Posting
here to celebrate! Seems like a milestone day.
I now know why it's referred to as the "infamous
section 29". Bending longerons, trial fitting gear
legs (and then pulling those #@$%& bolts back out),
and a few more trials and tribulations.
But, now that it's done, I have an RV grin without
One Cylinder Suddenly Runs Cool?
IO-360 (200HP - Bendix) in the
RV-8. Engine was misbehaving with a little
intermittent misfire on a recent cross country, so I
installed new plugs (gapped and Ohm checked) and
removed the Pmags for a visual inspection and it is
timed correctly. (jumper in, slightly retarded). Did
a compression test and all are strong, as usual.
Test flight saw an improvement to its normal,
turbine like smoothness.
Last cross country saw #4 cylinder a little cooler
than usual - both EGT and CHT. Going to my normal
LOP cruise, #4 continued its trend of acting too
cool by being the last to peak by a LONG way. My
first to peak was 100 LOP before #4 finally peaked.
The "GAMI Spread" was probably .8 GPH. LOP ignition
stress test was normal and smooth. Resetting all to
ROP then LOP shows the issue is consistent and
repeatable. Fuel flow is within the bounds of
I have not accomplished a fuel flow test (the bottle
method) yet, but that's my next course of action.
If the cylinder was acting lean, it would be easy to
suspect a partly clogged injector, but #4 is
strongly indicating a rich condition, isolated to
this one cylinder. It's possible that the other 3
have junk in them and are all slightly lean, but
this seems very unlikely.
Any thoughts before I dive into the bottle test?
BBQ PIREP #47 ...RV8Squaz
Actually just kidding about the #47, but those of
you who know me, know that I have flown to a fair
number of BBQ spots. Here's my latest. I flew to
Walker County Airport (JFX) in Jasper AL and went to
Wood Tail Lift Movement Continues ...M McGraw
I “borrowed” this idea.
The second picture is a slight modification I needed
to eliminate binding while returning the tail to the
Thanks to Sam for the idea.
Houston RV Gang Lunch This Weekend
Steve Sokol Thanking Luke and Classic
The last traces of 1970s decor have finally been
eliminated from N101PR. A huge thanks to the good
folks at Classic Aero Designs for these beauties.
They arrived yesterday - a month ahead of schedule!
So much more comfortable.
February 15, 2018. Issue
begins...and lots to pray for. I'm giving up music in the car
while driving to/from the airport daily (an hour total).
Listening to the Holy Rosary instead
on a free app via bluetooth.
RV-related next...can anybody identify
this wing tip plexi lens company? Looking for a fellow
Proof of RV Enjoyment…glove edition
The Nomex flying gloves on the right were used
exclusively until about two years ago. You can see
the tear on the right index finger which corresponds
nicely to the friction lock on the throttle of our
family’s RV-6. I've actually spent so many years
adjusting the knurled friction knob with my right
index finger, putting side loads on it, that I have
accelerated what I believe to be arthritis in the
knuckle of that finger. I've had to adopt a
different technique for the last year or so of
holding the second and first fingers side-by-side
and using them in concert to lock down the throttle.
The pair of gloves on the left (the replacements)
had their first thread blowout about three weeks
ago, and the hole has been getting bigger with each
flight. The 3rd set of gloves arrived yesterday and
things are looking up from a hand modeling
perspective...for a couple of years. ;^),
Vlad's Snow Pics
I was visiting friends in Great White North the
other day. I didn't care about OAT because I was
wearing a fur coat and mukluks. It was windy. As
soon as I left the shadows of the hangars it took me
15 minutes to taxi 300 feet. I stopped three times
and had to turn the airplane by hand. Couldn't fight
the winds. Made it to the runway and took off from
the middle. My hat is off to tenants at this
A New RV Grin in MI ...Dale DeWeese
I have been lurking and learning from this group for
the past year or so, as I searched for a flying
RV-9A. You have already answered more questions than
you will ever realize.
On Jan. 12th, I became an RV owner for the first
time. I flew my new-to-me RV-9A (N94KJ) from Oregon
to its new home in Michigan in the best and worst of
I have been flying certified planes for 14 years,
but nothing has come close to the performance I have
experienced in the RV-7A I flew for transition
training, and now the RV-9A. My wife is enjoying the
We already have many new destinations on our bucket
I'm sure I will have questions as time goes on. I'm
learning something new about these planes every day.
I just wanted to say hello and say thanks for the
help along the way.
Tool OCD (a good thing) ...Andrew Z
This was taken almost ten years ago, and was
before my drill bits were added, but it works great:
And more ...azrv6
I've been working on a project with parts at my
home shop and parts at the hangar and routinely move
this back and forth as needed. I always use a
digital caliper to confirm drill size before
drilling. Drill size and tap chart on my phone for
easy access when needed. Looks messy, but over the
last several years this has worked out great.
West Coast Formation Clinic, WCFC 2018
(two weeks out)
2 weeks out from our deadline. We have 55 people
thus far signed up. If you have not submitted your
application, you may want to do so.
RV-8 and the Mountains ...Steve Rush
Sunday was another nice flying day in the
Northwet, though windier and bumpier than I would
have cared for. I flew around the mountains East and
North of Arlington and this was the result.
Petit Jean - The Best Parts
Catching up here...Roy and I have not let any
moss grow under our feet, or rather, under the
wings, since November. I can't believe this was
three months ago! This was our second trip to Petit
Jean, and I'd looked forward to it since our 2016
trip. We had a great time again this year. Here are
the Very Best Parts:
First flight video (1/18)......VH-EAB
Hot day 100degF plus and Lucerne on the farm
Bragging on the Tate Man
STRAIGHT A's as a junior in HS! Please
excuse this proud parent bragging on his son.
Of note is a Pre AP Calc grade that went up!
February 14, 2018.
Game Face On
Sid in the flare at 52F in his 7A. A couple weeks
back I had the 200mm lens on and shot a few dozen
images of usual suspects doing TnGs. I like
this one - he's holding a little left rudder and
right aileron for what must be a right to left
crosswind. You can just see the elevator
counterweight peeking under the right aileron.
Full size is just under 3,000 pixels wide if you
have the monitor acreage...
First Flight ...Gary Simatos RV-7
Holy Cow--did the deed this morning. 5am at the
field. Canopy would not close. Could not find
the flash light. Got it sorted out, spilled my
coffee on the wing which immediately froze. Cleaned
that taxied out and took off. Engine hot in
Climb CHT 420's cooled a bit in level flight but
then got manifold press drop to 4!!
WTHeck........I didn't know it could go to 4. Back
to field. Trimmed baffles off the front of the
forward cylinders, fixed the interference with the
seat. Off again Temps better, squelchy radio and the
manifold pressure gremlin seems to have disappeared.
I'm exhausted but ecstatic........Perfect day really
Yahoo Thanks to all you guys for your encouragement
and help over the years........Cheers Gary
You can’t soar like an eagle...
So surround yourself with eagles,
or Mustangs. HulaGirl is staying warm
and swapping stories with her new friends.
Drill Bit Organization - I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours
The photo below was semi-staged,
but it's not far from what I often find on my
Seeing that our community is in constant pursuit of
a 'better mouse trap', the custom wood tail lift,
Randy Richmond's tool box, and Steve Melton's 3D
designs immediately come to mind, I'd like to see
what other have done to solve the problem of keeping
various bits, cages, and the like organized.
Thanks in advance from a height and organizationally
Fuse Floor Pans ...Randy V. RV-10
In process of putting in front
floor pans on RV10. All is going well EXCEPT, the
holes that are to be riveted to the lower fuse
channels are WAY off! Match drilling all went well,
but now, they aren't even close. I can't force it
over enough to even get close.
Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions?
Seen Out In the Field
Build PIREP ...David Paule
Glued the RH Tailcone Side
I gathered together the same crew as last time,
experience counts, and we glued on the right-hand
tailcone side today. Like before, we used thickened
(this version comes prethickened) G/Flex epoxy along
with an exoskeleton framework that will come off
when the glue sets far enough.
But that's in the near future.
Today, we spread the glue, put the skin in place,
and clecoed on the exoskeleton and filleted the glue
along the inside edges of the bulkheads and the
longerons against the skins. In fact, that's what
Dave is doing in this photo.
3D Printing Speed Mods ...Steve M.
"... these have speed written all
over them ! needs some tweaking, then bam,
time to fly!"
Cold PIREP ...longranger
Severe CAVU with about minus 2200 ft DA here in
SE Michigan. Still plenty cold for good braking
action on our snow-packed runway.
RV-6 and RV-7 Over San Juan Islands
Fly along on a beautiful scenic flight from
Friday Harbor, Washington and around the beautiful
San Juan Islands! James Polivka is flying the Cessna
172 photoship with Bernardo Malfitano flying his
Van's Aircraft Inc. RV-6 and Shawn Li flying his
RV-12 OLD (ULS) vs NEW(iS)
I wanted to show the difference between the old
fuselage and the new iS Fuselage. Thought it might
be interesting for some to see that are going to
build the new iS, or those who have built the old
kit and have not seen the new kit. This view is from
the rear. You can see some of the structural changes
just from this view. Will post some more at some
February 13, 2018. Issue
Friends aimlessly fly the west coast ...Norcalrv7
Armed with my RV-7A, My best friend and I headed
up the West coast on a 1000NM weekend trip to see
what we could find! What a blast!
Status Report ...Jason Hess RV-7
Big milestone for our build this last weekend.
Both wings can now come out of the stands and into
the cradle. Got a new riveting partner in the
form of my second son. He can no longer claim he's
not done it now.
Status Report ...Crabandy
The bendable retention flange wasn't so bendable,
I ended up using a couple small angles on the side
of the box and little tabs as hold downs. After lots
of holes it weighed 6.9 oz , I'm curious if the one
EarthX sells is .032 material.
Video: Short Final into Shelter Cove, CA (RV-10) ...Chad
Flying > Warm ...fl-mike
Saw all those posts with white stuff on the
ground, so I decided to post a couple photos from
our formation hop Saturday. 82F on the ground and
looking quite summer'ish.
Alton Bay PIREP ...Vlad
I was the only airplane on Friday noon. A welcome
from airport crews. ;^)
RV-9 Elevator Leading Edge Spar to Skin Riveting
Q: Just started the right elevator and keep
scratching my head as to how to rivet the spar to
the skin. There is an option for blind rivets on the
bottom on the skin/spar but who is to say not the
top? I can not for the life of me figure out how to
get my hand in there to rivet that top section of
skin to spar on the elevator. I really hope I
explained this well...
A: (Bruce Hill) You can
bend back the skin quite a way (well over 90
degrees) to get in there with a small bucking bar.
Ready For My Closeup ...engineerorange
Open Flight Solutions Looking for VAF Input
Steve Sokol of Open Flight Solutions is an RV
owner and VAF sponsor. He makes the
FlightBox line of ADS-B receivers and has been the
ADS-B guy in his EAA chapter for the past couple of
years. Last week's VAF Forum discussion on
Economical Panels prompted him to reach out.
He put together a blog post covering a new
product line using iPads and other off-the-shelf
gear to create a complete VFR EFIS - PFD, MFD, EMS,
etc. He would appreciate any constructive
criticism or other useful feedback the VAF
community cares to share.
Fuel Pump Autopsy Photos ...jonweisw
I cant say I found anything outwardly wrong with
it and given the intermittent nature of the problem,
I am not surprised. Nor would I ever profess to have
ANY idea of what I was looking for other than
something obvious. More hours on the new pump
with the same observation; the pressure is a steady
10psi above where it was before the swap without any
wavering. Here are pictures of the inside of
the fuel pump.
February 12, 2018. 0001Z. Issue
RV-8 and the First Second Flight ...Steve Rush
"...bought a new (to me) RV-8 back in December and the weather has
been so lousy this year today was only the second time I have flown
it since. It was a nice day and fun was had by all.
It went something like this..."
...and some gag reviews :^)
"I thought the casting was excellently done, but the writing was a
little derivative." ;^)
Rob B's Double Tall Creeper
I'm sure I'm not the only short pilot on this
forum. For working under my RV I find the standard
mechanic's creeper puts me too far from the under
side of the aircraft. I thought about purchasing an
adjustable creeper but after seeing the price tag I
gave that up (for the amount of time I would need
I purchased a new creeper as my old one is getting
run down and I got looking at it then realized that
I could mount the frame upside down. Now the
bed is up higher than the castors rather than
hanging down inside the castors. The holes in the
frame have square holes to keep the head of the bolt
from turning and by putting the frame upside down
you have to hold the head with vise grips but so
what. Been using this set up for quite a while and
makes working under the engine or fuselage much
easier. I can even see what I'm doing now.
Flying > Cold ...Pete Howell pictures.
It's cold, but clear, and takeoff is a blast-off.
Might be a Minnesota thing............
Practice Routine for Keeping Skills Sharp?
...many chiming in.
"...want to go practice today and I was thinking
about what skills to work on. I was wondering if
someone had worked out an efficient practice
I'm imagining something that would kind of flow
together to make the most efficient use of time in
the air. Kind of like the type of process that an
aerobatic pilot uses for a routine.
It may start with a particular type of takeoff, then
some various types of practice during a long
climb-out, then at altitude a series of practice
routines, then a multi-step descent with various
maneuvers during a step down, etc, until landing.
I could put something together myself but sometimes
it's nice not to have to figure stuff out when
someone already has a plan."
My RV-6 one piece wheel fairings (2 piece if you include the
Made another video...this one is of my one piece
Mike Seager FP pattern diagram in KNOTS
Just to add to previous postings of Mike Seagers
neat handout on pattern speeds/power settings for Fixed Pitch RVs.
I took the previously posted diagram and turned mph to kts to match
my RV-6A instrumentation.
Maybe Two Pieces? ...Steve M.
this may be worth a look. not much clamp on the clevis, if any. I
suppose some adhesive could be used. plan to bend these downwards to
fit the bar angle and add some fairing taper.
Status Report RV-7 ...Bullseye
Don't undo that because.......!
Throttle cable came apart......
Don't undo that nut I said...
Shortly after that, my mate found a partially disassembled RV12
Mcfarlane throttle cable on the bench.
Does anyone have a quick fix to reassemble the friction part with
the 6 teeny, tiny rollers in and stuff it all back down the tube
He should be out of ER by Wednesday
Anyone got good RV4 videos?
February 9, 2018. Issue
Data Integrity Check....RV style
The N.Texas RV gang can confirm with gusto that
as of this writing the line in the
Courtesy Cars & Food List describing Decatur, TX
is accurate. Some of the usual suspects
formationed over to nearby Decatur (KLUD) Thursday
for proficiency, gas and food. RV-8A, 7 and 6
models were represented. The courtesy car had
an empty 5-pack of Bud Light in the back seat with
the caps screwed back on, and a Norman Lear style
cap on the dash. Plenty of warning lights on
the dash kept us entertained on the 2-mile drive to
Whistle Stop Cafe, and its homemade pies.
Mashy shown below modeling the ambience between
guffaws. A born showman...
Mashy Reece: Male Model
The specials were meat loaf and roast, and the
pie slices come out as appetizers. I didn't
finish my roast, but I did finish the chocolate pie.
Back to the airport and some of the clearest blue
skies we've had around these parts in a good while.
Lots of airplanes out this day, as the winds pick
back up and the clouds lower over the weekend.
Get it in while you can...
More formation practice
back to 52F with full tanks and stomachs.
If there are two better splash images for a
weekend edition I haven't found them. Friends,
flying and food made for RV greatness. It
PS: Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and
RV-7A Status Report ...Larry Larson
Aft skins. I fit! Maybe a good dog house
for when Sweetie gets mad at me.
Sam B's Wood Tail Lift Safety
"...if you look carefully at this photo you can
see the eyebolt safety inserted into the
ramp....that lift ain't failing. But hey...if it did
fall it wouldn't be as violent as some of my
From Ken F.
RV-7 Shots ...RV7 To Go
RV-Lancair Brotherhood Day ...snopercod
It was cold and windy, but we had another fly-out
to Rutherfordton [KFQD] for lunch today. It was a
short hop over the mountains (18 minutes) from
Asheville, but the enchiladas were worth it.
v5.70 Release ...Garmin G3X Touch (GDU 4XX)
Changes made from version 5.60 to 5.70:
•Add option to display roll reference markers for
standard-rate turn on PFD
•Add option for QWERTY keyboard layout
•Add support for flight director TRK mode
•Add support for hectopascal air pressure units
•Add support for new GTS 8xx RS-232 interface format
•Add support for 24V trim motor voltage
•Add support for GMC 507 autopilot mode controller
•Add display of AFCS preflight test status
•Change flight director VOR, LOC, and GS modes to
operate without navigation database
•Change appearance of PIREP symbols
•Change maximum limit for Type K thermocouple
•Improve traffic target information display
•Improve visibility of aircraft symbol on chart page
•Improve data log time offset value when UTC is
•Improve flight plan editing
•Improve weather text report time display
•Improve display of winds aloft
•Improve com radio frequency search page
•Improve GSU 25B true airspeed display
•Improve EGT/TIT display when Celsius units are
•General improvements to system operation
•Includes update to G5 software version 5.10
•Includes update to GDL5X software version 2.10
•Includes update to GMC507 software version 2.10
•Includes update to GSA28 software version 4.00
•Includes GAD27 software version 2.20
•Includes GAD29 software version 2.30
•Includes GDL39 software version 4.80
•Includes GEA24 software version 3.10
•Includes GI260 software version 2.70
•Includes GMA245 software version 2.40
•Includes GMA245 audio software version 2.20
•Includes GMA245 Bluetooth software version 2.00
•Includes GMU11 software version 2.00
•Includes GPS20A software version 2.20
•Includes GSU25 software version 3.70
•Includes GSU73 software version 3.70
•Includes GSU73 IGRF database version 1.03 (Base
•Includes GTR20/200 software version 2.90
Gary's Hud Testing
Gary Platner was helping a company test a hud for
GA in his RV-8 Thursday at 52F, and the rep gave me
permission to take a photo. Shot video in
flight for the coders to use for tweaking.
More info when I get it.
February 8, 2018. Issue
28.9*F and windy said the
APRS Wx station three
miles north of 52F Tuesday morning, but I went RVating anyway. Long
johns, Red Wing boots, two coats and winter motorcycle gloves.
Actually wasn’t that cold in the cockpit. Big bumps at all
levels. Did I mention the
wind at 2700’?
So I did what anybody in that situation would do…..I flew north a
few miles and turned around so I could use that massive tailwind to
a picture, in level flight, of my 201kt groundspeed. Then
I landed, found a heater....and took an aspirin.
PS: NOTAM at 52F (crane….ends 2/9) !FTW 02/107 52F OBST CRANE (ASN
UNKNOWN) (275FT E 500FT S APCH END RWY 17) 640FT (30FT AGL) NOT LGTD
From the photo vault. dr
(3,367 pixels wide)
THANKS! ...Rich Gurr RV-10
Well after four years and four months, two house
moves, two Grand kids, a bunch of everything else in
life, and toss in a hurricane, I still pulled it
N924RL is a gas burning machine with a wopping 7
hours TT (and rapidly increasing). The thanks is to
all of you who have inspired me to persevere,
provided needed information, and who have shared in
the same frustrations of the build. Im still in a
bit of disbelief Im actually flying this plane, as I
circle and circle and circle and circle around
within my 100 mile radius at 150 knots. Thank God
(and Vic Syracuse) for not making it a 50 mile
All I can say now is wow!
I did a thing! (Restarted Building RV-7) ...Andrew Z.
(walks up...taps microphone...)
Well, I’m back!!!
To make a very long story very short, back in 2013,
I sold the RV-7 kit to a gentleman in North Carolina
after reaching the conclusion that at my (then)
current build rate, I would likely need a four-seater
Well, after a smooth transaction, the family and I
made 3 cross-country moves chasing fun Flight Test
jobs around the country and finally settling
somewhere in the midwest.
Standing in my large garage (ahem….airplane
factory), I started dreaming about building again.
On the exact same day, the gentlemen who bought my
kit happened to post a FS: RV-7 thread on VAF. I
didn’t really want to start a used kit, so I was
thinking of a new set of preview plans, but I
thought I’d investigate anyway.
Whoa, that’s my kit!
Wheel landings FINALLY
After flying my Husky for 1000 hrs and 2000
landings I am finally getting proficient at wheel
landing my 7. It took a while as I am used to BIG
tires and slower speeds. The RV landing gear is just
so less forgiving and I kept bouncing it. Just took
a little time to get the sight picture correct and
the speed just right. I was three pointing it most
of the time and the wheel landings are just easier
on the plane in my opinion. I read through the past
discussions on this topic and i really helped a lot.
Jumped in the 7 and did at least 50 landings this
past weekend. The key is getting the mains planted
and stick forward. These plans are just plain fun to
fly. Got it to 17500 on oxygen and I was amazed how
fast it got these. Looks like I am stuck with two
plans as I cant decide which one I like better.
From the 'Economical Panels' Thread...
Dynon is Hiring
Sent to me by RV builder and friend Don Hull (rocket dude)
"Hey Doug. I know you'll enjoy this.
Breakout your headset or earbuds and watch this.
By the way, this guy works at Redstone Arsenal
February 7, 2018. Issue
Grab from the camera.
Live Feed from the Car...
I was going to write something about RVs,
but after watching the launch of Falcon Heavy
YouTube around 3pm Tuesday my mind has honestly
been elsewhere. When those two boosters landed
simultaneously I actually screamed out loud at my
monitor and slapped my hands on the top of my head.
Pantaloons were very nearly shat.
I was four when Apollo 11 launched, so this was a lot of fun to watch.
The live telemetry, music and employees cheering in
the background added to the enjoyment. Lunch
Later I popped over to RV-7A/12 builder Bob Collins' 'News
Cut' site and saw he was equally gobsmacked.
Something about spaceflight that resonates with more
than a few RV builders/pilots. I think I read
once in the forums that there are a couple of Space
X employees building RVs. On the small chance
they are reading this, congrats! I would
really like to someday tour the McGregor, TX SpaceX
facility. I'll fly my RV down there and write
up a story. And buy your lunch. ;^)
The car was a nice touch in lieu of a block of test flight ballast made
of concrete. Sometime down the road don't be
surprised if they announce David Bowie's ashes are
in that car orbiting the Sun for the next billion
years. You heard it here first...
Well done, SpaceX. Godspeed Starman.
Long Overdue Update ...crabandy
I've wanted to add a short update on our PennyPie
for some time now, but I'm still trying to nail down
a new photo hosting source. Short story is she is
doing GREAT and better than ever expected by her Dr.
As of our last visit we are close to 90% kidney
function compared to 60ish% a year and a half ago.
The Dr.'s goal is to actively monitor kidney
function so that these 2 little kidneys will last
her lifetime. Prayers answered and prayers
We flew to her last Dr. Visit to downtown KC...continue
How do I rivet the elevator root?
Hey guys, I messed up 4 of 4 here
does anyone have any tips?
Should I make a special bucking bar?
West Coast Formation Clinic, WCFC 2018
*****carded folks, please fill out your
application as soon as possible, so we can determine
I’m pleased to announce this year’s West Coast
Formation Clinic, WCFC 2018.
Like every year we are expecting that we will
receive more applicants than we can safely support.
The management team will evaluate applications and
contact participants as soon as possible after the
application period closes. Deadline for applications
is Feb 28th Please remember that the management team
does this for fun and to help the RV-community be
safer when performing formation flying. This is NOT
our job; please give us time to figure out this
complex event. There is a lot that goes into making
this a safe event.
To apply and/or for additional details, visit the
WCFC 2018 website shown below.
Date: Apr 20-22 of 2018
Location: Madera, CA (KMAE)
If you have any questions, please contact me or any
of the POCs shown on our web site. Hope to see you
there. Thank you,
Axel and the West Coast Formation Clinic Management
10th annual ice cream social at Inyokern, CA on March 10th
Sorry for the somewhat late notice, been busy
with the new project. If you want to see it or find
out what it is, show up.
The 10th annual ice cream social will be held at
Inyokern, CA airport on March 10th from 1100-1400.
The ice cream social is just an excuse to get
together, eat some free ice cream and fly. It
started as a way to get folks involved and has grown
every year. The most aircraft to ever show up was
48. Being that this is the 10th year I am aiming at
the number of 50. Lets see what we can do.
If you would like to attend, please email me at
axel_alvarez "at" hotmail "dot" com Use "Ice cream
social" on the subject line of the email for spam
filter reasons. If not, it will end up in the
"trash/recycling bin" and I won't know you are
coming. The head count will be used to figure out
how much supplies my wife and I need to buy. All I
need is your name and the number of people attending
by March 3rd. Please DON'T wait until the last
Design Shamelessly Stolen (his words)
February 6, 2018. Issue
Monday 0900 I met Sky at the hangar so he could put his
wife’s car up on the lift to hopefully find what the rattling noise
was at highway speed. Answer: a plastic shroud underneath was
Jumped in Flash for a quick orbit just to say I did, but mostly to
get out of the 24*F temps that I underdressed for. Flew NE of Lake
Lewisville to hopefully spot a grass runway Monk told me about.
Didn’t spot it, but found it later on GoogleEarth - hadn’t gone far
enough north. Did fly over Deion Sanders’
house in Prosper. Years ago as a student pilot his land
was big enough for a 3000' runway and uncrowded. Looks like it has
been sold off now and lots of homes are being developed. The new
Kroger is in his former yard.
RTB 52F and the 3 mile call coming up initial. Former F-8 driver Gary was
on the ramp warming up so I took the opportunity to use some
verbiage I looked up on the interwebs awhile back. Turning final I
keyed the mic...“7AR, RV Ball, .18” (had 180 lbs of gas).
He didn’t say a word for ten seconds, but when I was in the flare he
keyed his mic....“Nerd”. (explained)
Perfect comeback….and a little true. ;^)
Space X Falcon Heavy is supposed to launch 1:30PM ET Tuesday.
If it works (3) boosters return to the pad to be reused, and a
convertable goes to Mars.
The RV-6A featured here yesterday for sale sold in 13hrs 50min (sale
pending). Backups still calling says the Monk Man.
Picture of my panel ...Dave Cobb RV-7
Well finally I have hooked up the Dynon Skyview
D1000 touch to some of the network stuff i have been
fortunate to have purchased used from other builders
I would like to thank those private vendors and
Stein for having provided me a budget favourable
option to EFIS. And they all worked!
The mission for the airplane is simply VFR Day /
night so nothing fancy. The Syview stands alone. It
is supported by steam gauges for Oil pressure and
temp. , as well as Ammetter. The RPM gauge is driven
by the engine and the Airspeed and Artificial
horizon are stand alone units as well. That way
flying at night a power loss is a non issue as you
can safely navigate.
Eagle's Nest Projects - Montgomery High School (TX)
(comments from Ernie)
"Take a guess who has the most fun and/or rewarding
experiences during an Eagle’s Nest high school
aircraft build project; the mentors or the
build-students. Well, it really depends on who you
ask. Ask any build-student and they’ll certainly
convince you that the students have the most fun and
best experience. Ask any mentor at Montgomery high
school or any other Eagle's Nest high school and
they’ll more than convince you that the mentor team
has the most fun and offer up a list of reasons why
the experience is among the most rewarding in their
life. And the correct answer is… it’s a draw!
mentor team at Montgomery high school is a
top-drawer group of professional pilots and RV
builders based “on top of the hill” at nearby
Conroe-North Houston Regional Airport (KCXO). Under
the leadership of Joe Waltz, the mentor team has
taken to task the largest group of build-students
(48) at any of our high schools. The ‘team’ is doing
an outstanding job of organizing the students, the
build process, and through it all an excellent level
of build quality. Build sessions at Montgomery high
school are two days per week with two back-to-back
50-minute class periods of 24 students each. Their
current build-project, EN-19, was started at the
beginning of the 2017-2018 school year and is on
track to be completed and on display at Oshkosh this
year. Just mention “aircraft build” to any of
Montgomery’s 1,600 students or staff and you’ll be
greeted with a response filled with pride,
excitement, and an invitation to visit the build
Mentor debrief sessions at Montgomery are typically
held at one of the local burger joints immediately
following each build session. I’ve attended several
of these debrief sessions and it reminds me of a
bunch of kids in a candy store; smiles, laughter,
and never-ending stories about the really cool or
absolutely unbelievable experiences each shared with
their students that day. Two of my favorites stories
are (1) the ‘engineering’ student that didn’t know
how to read a ruler and the mentor’s experience
through the teaching process and (2) the student
that didn’t know what a saw horse was. I found the
saw horse story a little hard to believe and it
prompted me to ask our waitress if she knew what a
saw horse was. After a long wide-eyed blank stare,
she timidly said no. Confirmation that today’s youth
need a little less ‘screen’ time and a little more
Eagle’s Nest Projects is the most successful and
prolific high school aircraft build program in the
USA. Seven and one-half years- 14 completed (flying)
aircraft and 7 aircraft under construction at
various high schools. Build projects are implemented
as a companion lab project to existing STEM based
engineering curriculums (ex. PLTW Aerospace) and the
builds take place in the classroom lab area during
regular hours. Students are graded, most receive
dual academic credit, and above all, students are
held accountable for attendance, conduct, level of
participation, and knowledge base.
Community and education partnerships are the
supporting pillars of the program’s success. Eagle’s
Nest Projects is partnered with Project Lead the
Way, the nations leading provider of STEM
curriculums, Embry-Riddle, the nations leading
aeronautical university, and with a number of other
aerospace and engineering-based education
organizations. Community partnerships include school
districts, municipal airports, local businesses, and
hundreds of individuals who volunteer their time as
mentors. If you missed it in the above captioned
video, ABC Channel 13 News was so inspired by the
great work at Montgomery high school that they
reached out to Southwest Airlines and announced in
the video (surprise to us all) that SWA has offered
their support and intern opportunities to Eagle’s
Nest build students. When you think it just can’t
get any better, a new community partner joins in
support of the program with new and exciting
opportunities for Eagle’s Nest build-students to
further empower them on a pathway of leadership and
a productive life."
When Worlds Collide ...Scott Chastain
On Saturday, January 27, 2018, I got sent to the
old Fritzsche Army Airfield, now the Marina
Municipal Airport (OAR), where I got out and looked
around. The place felt abandoned. Nobody was around.
I put the canopy cover on as the morning sun began
delivering the promise of heat across a tarmac that
at once held history in its structures while a light
breeze sighed vacantly beyond.
Trim Selector Switch & Indicator ...GalinHdz
Back in 2012 when I designed my all glass
instrument panel, I thought I had covered every
possible situation you could encounter while flying.
I was quickly proven wrong when I did my first
flight with my wife. As we flew along she rested her
hand on the co-pilot joystick, and since both
joysticks have trim control, she accidentally
changed the way the airplane was trimmed. Since I
fly actual IMC, this was not part of an acceptable
design to me. So I re-wired the trim circuit and
installed a trim selector switch. This way the trim
can only be controlled by the pilot flying while the
other trim is inactive. This setup worked to
perfection, until last month.
I was flying with a pilot friend who wanted to do
some practice approaches. He flew the airplane for
about 1hr then it was my turn to do some approaches.
But no matter how hard I tried I was fighting the
airplane and could not keep it where I wanted. After
about 1/2hr I realized the trim switch was still set
to co-pilot so no matter how much I moved the trim,
nothing was happening. As soon as I turned the
switch to pilot, I could properly trim the airplane
and everything fell in to place. I realized that
unless I was looking down at the selector switch I
couldn’t tell who had control of the trim. The last
thing I want to do while flying actual IMC is to be
looking down to check the trim selector switch
position. Again this was not part of an acceptable
design to me. So I went back to the drawing board to
come up with an acceptable solution. The process is
too long to post so here is a link to a .pdf file
that details my "solution".
Now 3D Scanning! ...Steve Melton
...the tail is a 3D surface so I thought I would
try the scanning camera
February 5, 2018. 0001Z. Issue
More than one moderator in the past has asked for an
alphabetized listing of the businesses that advertise here (helps
those mods with posting rule
#1). After a
little digging in Quickbooks I found a report that, with a little
tweaking, I could turn into a list like you might find in the back
of a magazine. Here it is...
Todays 'Off Topic' is a
video on the Linotype machine used for typesetting up through
the 70’s. My uneducated guess is that you’re going to want to block
out 35 minutes to watch it. I watched it twice, then found a
called ‘Linotype: The Film’ that just might end up buying (it wasn’t
Hope you had a good weekend. v/r,
RV-6A For Sale ...410 hrs TTAF. 410 hrs since new Lycoming
Additional Items Included:
1. Two Lightspeed headsets. 2. iFly GPS.
3. N-number is a decal (not painted).
interested contact Randy Richmond via email at:
rrv8er 'at' yahoo 'dot' com or (817)
401 - Eight Zero Nine Six.
More details and more photos
RV-8 Panel Progression - The Saga ...Jeff A
Just thought I'd share how interesting the
changes have been over the years...
...and on the other end of the spectrum...
Economical Panel Entry ...Simon Hitchen
Here’s mine and it was quite inexpensive.
A used 7 inch dynon skyview
Used ASI & ALT
Used Garmin GTX-327
New Garmin GTR-200 com radio
IPAD Pro running ForeFlight connected via WiFi to
the skyview thereby using its AHARS and gps antenna.
Can also send and receive flightplans between the
I already had the IPad so the whole panel cost me
around $3500 USD. It’s obviously not the flashiest
but I like it and with two kids heading off to
university it’ll be staying for a while
Solid VFR that I fly through some of the busiest
airspace around. Works beautifully. You really don’t
have to spend a fortune if you’re looking to fly VFR
Forgive the clamp on the cabin heat, the friction
9A Status Report ...PilotjohnS
David Paule RV-3B Status Report
kentlik RV-7A Rebirthing Update
Decided to start on the canopy...initial fit
before cutting anything. Looks like I have a
way to go with this puppy...
Wood Tailwheel Lift ver. 2.0 ...Sam B.
Refined the wood tailwheel lift to make it easier
to roll the aircraft's tailwheel into position. The
bottom of the dolly was originally wood but it's
been replaced with steel angle and plate which sits
at floor level. It's amazing how well such a simple
2018 KC Flight Formation Clinic
2018 Formation Clinic is set for May 4, 5, & 6
2018 at KLXT. Follow the link, once you are in
the group you must add a record to the Database.
Hotel info is in the description, the cutoff for
room reservations (Block held under KC Flight) is
April 7, 2018
Closest thing to a hug ...Steve M.
"...a pat on back is close to a hug.
I took off at -10C at 5PM. A Cessna 320 was inbound
and I knew the voice. Hey, Bob how's it going, chit
chat. Upon him entering the pattern, I heard "Steve,
I can't get my gear down". He was returning from the
Avionics shop that had installed a L3 and new audio
panel. I asked him to join me perpendicular to field
at 5 miles to have a look. The gear was up. He began
to crank the gear down manually for his first real
situation. I verified it was down. He swung a 180
and landed uneventfully and then stopped over at my
hangar afterwards. I got a pat on the back but it
seemed like a hug.
This is the same avionics shop I walked away from a
couple of years ago because it didn't seem focused.
Even for a transponder check.
Why was I flying when it was so cold, -14C at 3000
ft. Why was he inbound at exactly the same time I
lifted off? Why was it a perfect execution? He is
trained and he flies angel flights. He mentioned it
felt good to have someone there."
Questions on my Workmanship
I know what "perfect" looks like, but don't have
a handle on "good enough." Two quick questions:
1) Scratches. These were caused by the squeezer
while, if I recall correctly, I was standing on my
head. Are these scratches something to fix when
prepping to paint, something to buff out and prime
over now, or absolute death to the part?
RV-14A Status Report ...jwoolard
Mid and forward fuselage just joined...
February 2, 2018. Issue
A quick .3 Thursday
morning looking for deer (spotted six) while in the background
Smashing Pumpkin's 1993 ‘Mayonaise’
played over the Dave Clarks. Sigh. The sounds of
adolescence…capturing the uncertainty, boredom, innocence, and
confusion of growing up. Strings fed to an Electro-Harmonix
late-70s Op-Amp Big Muff pedal. Lovin me that song...and that
overdubbed fuzz so perfect for increasing your hearing loss.
“Fool enough to
almost be it. Cool enough to not quite see it. Doomed.
Pick your pockets full of sorrow. Run away with me tomorrow.
Being in the air makes the
music that much more sharp. At least for me, listening to a
song in the air often changes how I interpret and enjoy it. *Had the
headset set up to play ATC over the music…loudly. Quiet
morning with very little comm.
Wishing you and yours a heavy distortion, SAFE and RV-filled weekend.
How to play 'Mayonaise'
. Eb Bb Bb Gb Bb D tuning.
Tease Part Deux (helping a friend)
of a really nice 2007 RV-6A coming up for sale.
All the specifics and hopefully some A2A pics in the
Monday edition (goes live around 0001Z). I apologize
for the washed out color from the drone shots. The light brown
grass and a too-high sun made for tough auto-balancing. The
shots with some blue sky in it more accurately represent the
aircraft's paint colors.
RV Hotel List Updated
...Colorado and California.
VAF Courtesy Car and Food List Updated
Seen at Monk's
Oil cooler door mod on RV-6. Neat!
February 1, 2018. Issue
First Flight RV-7 ...BillL
It finally happened. A very cool,
but calm day.
Heavy left wing, but otherwise very familiar
handling characteristics. The cabin heat worked
nicely at 6500 ft and 25F. A little draft from the
Smooth and wiggled at ~47 kts with 20 deg flaps.
Nice cruise at ~150kts with 23" and 2340 rpm.
Now comes the tuning, data collection and airmanship
proficiency improvement. Several people
deserve some personal thanks, as well as the VAF
members at large. A new beginning.
...really nice 6A
coming up for sale at 52F.
Fresh annual. Insanely
View (27) pics of engine compartment. All
pictures here 2,560 x 1920
pixels. The bigger the monitor you have the
More info tomorrow.
Wallpaper Calendar ...Ed Hicks photo
RV-Lancair Brotherhood Day ...1/31 entry
The RV contingent called in
reinforcements from as far away as the Atlanta area;
I was vastly outnumbered, and parked in back so as
not to take away from those four beautiful RVs. We
all took the courtesy van to Jason's Deli in
Spartanburg. After lunch the RV-4s did some
Alternate Battery Location ...RV-14 (M McGraw)
This is a PC680 mounted in the
area you are interested. You will need to build the
mount from inside the airframe because the access
panel pictured is not part of the -14 kit.
Audrey Reeves (the 'AR' in N617AR) Got Published Again
...a proud papa bragging on his
A Chemiluminescent Probe for Cellular
Peroxynitrite Using a Self-Immolative Oxidative
Decarbonylation Reaction (abstract)
"...most of the data I collected is in the
supplementary information, which is available
from that link without paying for the article. I did
a lot of the reactions there, and collected the data
for figures S5 and S6."
January 31, 2018. Issue
Washed the RV-6
Tuesday instead of climbing on the treadmill, and while drying it
the light reflected off the wing in a way that caught my attention.
Interesting reflection where the flap trails off and the
epoxy-painted floor begins (stands out more in the
size pic). Lotta blue sky Monday
in Texas, as you can see in the pic.
The winds and
fire watches return Wednesday here in N.TX, so heads up.
New to the forum ...Rick Meyer (Iowa)
Hello everyone. I am new to the
forum and this is my first post. I am from eastern
Iowa, I farm and have an excavating business, I am
59, received my pilots license six years ago, and
fly/own a 172M. I believe in goodness, I believe in
doing the right thing, and I believe in working hard
to make the world a better place. I also believe
I want to build an RV! I am unsure of which
model, however I am leaning towards the 14. I would
like to here the thoughts of others who have flown
or owned the 14, especially as compared to the other
models. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks,
Trying a Baffle Cutting Idea ...greghughespdx
I'm currently working (when I can find some time
away from my job, it's been crazy-busy) on the
engine baffles for my 8A project. I actually have
two baffle kits. One is the "old" style kit that was
available circa 2000. The other is the newer style
kit that is more refined and has modern drawings and
New Product - RV-10 Wheel Pant Tire Pressure Ports ...VAF
Alternate Air in RV-8 Snorkel
...seen at 52F. Some pics....
New Beta 'Walk Through' Feature at
"...we have the beta of the "walk through" and
"walk around" live online. When you design a hangar
let the system generate the plans after the quote
form like usual then you will see the "walkthrough"
and "walk around" option buttons appear."
January 30, 2018. Issue
A pic of the bottom
of the oil door on an RV-8 at 52F being built. Of note is the
glassed-in support on the underside (stiff foam underneath).
Haven't seen that before...
scaled to fit monitor /
3,200 x 2,500 pixel full size
RV White Pages Updated and Current
...as of 7:09pm Sunday night.
Sorted three ways. PDF documents. Use
Ctrl-F on a PC or Command-F on a Mac to
search for a name or town.
Initial RV-10 cowl sanding
I'm working an RV-10 but I suspect it's the same
for any RV cowling. I want to ensure this looks
correct before committing to any drilling.
The diameter both horizontally and vertically is
roughly 13" ... hard to be exact without a straight
edge. I do have a bit of a gap to accommodate the
later painting and whatnot. The top still protrudes
out a bit further than the bottom. I can probably
sand a bit more on the inside of the top to get it
Scouty has gone West.......... Pete Howell
and a half years ago, I met a best friend and
discovered a great new use for these flying machines
we love. Then named Olivia, a little Boxer rescue,
Scout came into our lives via a plane ride in our
family's magic carpet.
Kate was just a little girl then, but she made the
executive decision that Scout was coming home. Since
that time, Scouty, even with all her quirkiness,
wormed her way into our hearts, especially that of
my wife, Andi.
It was especially hard to let her go this morning,
but we know like all good girls, she goes to a
better place. I'd like to think that finding her
started me, and several other VAFers, on the path to
perform many rescue flights all over the country.
She truly was a good girl, and we will miss her
Alton Bay Ice Runway is Now Open
“Alton Bay ice Airport Runway is now Open. Runway
1 /19. Runway is 100’ wide x 2800 ‘ long surface
conditions all ice no snow very slick . Runway is
marked with yellow cones every 300’ on both sides
with triple cones on both ends marking thresholds .
Taxi way is on east side of runway marked with
orange cones into parking ramp on south end. If you
have ice cleats for your shoes I suggest you bring
them.” - Paul LaRochelle Airport Manager
Over Dimpling? Any answer to the original question?
cant seem to find an example of over dimpling. I
keep reading over and over its hard/unlikely to over
dimple but in another thread I was discussing my
results with a new set of dies and was wondering if
under dimpling could be the cause. I went back over
some holes and hit them pretty hard with a hardwood
flooring hammer and the c-frame on the concrete
floor. To me the dimples look crisp but from a
distance the whole row looks rippled. I think it may
be what the OP was trying to describe. Its very hard
to capture the ripples on camera.
Engine Fuel Pump Failure
Adding a data point on this.
I have about 900h on my RV-8 with a Lyc IO360M1B,
which was installed new with the airplane. Nine
months ago, I upgraded my panel to dual G3x's from,
among other things, the Grand Rapids EIS system.
At about the time that I was testing out my new
avionics, I noticed occasional fluctuations in fuel
pressure, from a baseline of about 24psi to
momentary lows as much as 14-15psi. The dips were
transient, occurring maybe once or twice per hour,
and not associated with any changes in engine
output, RPM/MP, or sound/tone. They seemed to happen
at higher altitudes during prolonged cruise
(6-9000'), but were not associated with temperature.
There were no changes in fuel flow. Activating the
Aux Fuel Pump remedied the low pressure without
hesitation or fail. It is possible that this was
occurring with the EIS system and that I missed it.
I decided to have the fuel pump replaced before it
failed outright. Upon removal, there was nothing out
of the ordinary; no debris, no leaks, no undue
chaffing or obvious wear. I did not take the pump
apart to inspect the diaphragm.
The new pump is generating 32-34psi consistently,
hence confirming (to me at least) that the original
pump was in slow failure mode.
I was under the impression that these pumps rarely
Hope this helps someone in the future.
January 29, 2018. Issue
Custom-built wood tailwheel lift ...S.Buchanan
There was a good thread recently about how to
raise the tail wheel for maintenance and the
formerly available Tail-Mate was part of the
discussion. I fully intended to fabricate a copy of
the steel Tail-Mate but decided to first whip
together a wood version out of scraps in the shop. I
moved it to the hangar today and made its first
flight and the thing works incredible well.
Cherry Max Rivets
Preparation and Setting: Van's Aircraft Builder Tips
(Rian at Van's)
"I just made and posted a video on Cherry Max
I plan on making many more of these. This one was in
answer to a tech help question we have been asked
again and again."
Old Farts Update ...turbo's 1/28 entry
Our trip to Arcadia (X06) worked out wonderfully!
The weather cooperated with winds coming straight
down Runway 06, mostly sunny skies and tolerable
temps. The big winds held off until we were all back
in our hangars. Our hosts, George Chase and his
Friends of Arcadia Airport, again went above and
beyond to make sure we had everything we needed for
our cookout. Randy and Beverly Barry, owners of
Eagle Vista Aviation and operators of the X06 FBO,
went out of their way to make sure we were welcome.
They shuttled Old Farts from the ramp in their golf
cart and offered up tours of their agricultural
aerial spraying training facility. And finally, as
an unexpected treat, we were allowed a look at an
incredibly rare Antique Aircraft based at Arcadia.
What a great day! Oh... I counted 31 Old Fart
aircraft and we went through sixty burgers and six
pounds of BBQ chicken!!!
Changed my signature today
First flight of VH-EAB. All went well. Started
the build Aug 2011.
RV-9 "Cloud tinnie"
Status Report: RV14A N225HK ...kiljoy
So I've been lucky and have had an over abundance
of time the last couple of weeks to work on
the left wing a little bit more. I've gotten the
ribs on, the rear spar on along with the aileron
brackets and today got about 50% of the top skins
I'm so glad that I built those two work benches and
even happier that I kept the tops of them
at 8' long.
Here is a pic of the left wing with the rear spar
having been riveted on and the top skins cleco'd
in place. I'd left the J channels in place to test
the fit. They hadn't been primed yet:
.....and some video feeds of the
RV accident data analysis ...John B
I wanted to learn a new data analysis tool (Power
BI) so I decided to build a simple dashboard based
on the NTSB database. I thought it might be
interesting to the community so I am sharing the
link with you.
January 26, 2018. Issue
Passing over the top of
Denton's class D on my way back to 52F - quick gas run up to GLE.
Garmin G3X. Even though I'm not in their airspace I
usually check in with Denton's tower to let 'em know I'm
listening and can move if they need me to. They have a lot of
training traffic and seem to appreciate the check in. Target
Wishing you and yours a happy, SAFE and RV-filled weekend.
Probable Cause List Updated
documents posted since the last update.
discuss and digest these probable cause
publications so that you can hopefully be a safer
Newest listings at top...
Note: This page is over 8MB in size.
Make sure you're on Wi-Fi before clicking on it.
Dedicated area in forums to discuss probable cause
An Unexpected Builder Risk - Radon
Here in this part of Colorado, we often have high
levels of radon in our homes. Radon is a radioactive
gas that comes out of the ground under our homes.
Relatively low doses are a risk for lung cancer.
Getting rid of it takes a straight-forward bit of
work, which I won't go into, except to mention that
it generally includes a suction applied below the
house to exhaust the radon before it can enter the
You can see a map of the U.S. that shows relative
levels across the country
Click on your state for a closer look by county.
Radon can't be detected except with a radon tester.
There's no smell to it.
My neighborhood association has a radon tester and I
borrowed it. It spent a week in the unfinished
basement, a week in the main part of the house, and
a week in the shop, otherwise known as a garage
among people who aren't building airplanes there.
Since I've been spending 500 to 600 hours a year
there, it seemed a good place to check.
The results are in picocuries per liter:
8.8 in the basement,
8.6 in the house,
and 17.9 in the shop.
What's the risk? I'm a non-smoker, and the numbers
get much worse for smokers. But at a level of 8,
about 15 people per thousand could get lung cancer.
Out in the shop, for me, it's probably twice that.
But catch this: there is no safe level! But EPA
recommends getting it fixed it it's over 4.0, and
even there, the risk is about 7 people per thousand
getting lung cancer.
I've got to get quotes and get this thing fixed, for
sure. Especially since now it's out on the internet.
David Paule (RV-3B)
Gap around flush rivet mfg head
started my project with mainly used/borrowed tools
from a friend and have been adding tools of my own
as I go along. The dimple dies I was using were
giving good results but they have built a whole
airplane already and I figured why not get a new set
of my own. I bought the Cleveland spring back dies
to use on the skins. I also bought a set of the sub
structure dies just to try it out. I tried on a
scrap before going to town and everything appeared
to look good. I went ahead and dimpled real parts
and during assembly I started noticing a slight gap
around the manufactured head of the rivets that I
wasn't getting before with the old dies. I pretty
concerned so I took some scrap, made a test part,
and took a cross section of the joint on a wire EDM
machine I have at work. I think the joint looks OK
(other than the shop head being a little off) but
you can see the little gaps around the head. It
looks like the new dies leave a larger radius and is
the reason for the gap.
What is everyones thoughts on the gaps I am seeing?
Could there be a different reason this is happening?
Jerald Folkerts Thanks the VAF Community
January 24th, at high noon, N25SR, a Murphy Super
Rebel, SR2500, took to the skies for approximately
45 minutes. I could not have built this airplane
without the incredible resource Vans Aircraft Forum
provided. I purchased all of my avionics from
individuals on the site, many of my engine
accessories and wiring tools, swapped a set of
incorrect Lord mounts with a Harmon Rocket builder,
and even learned how to build my own panel with an
excellent pin out diagram from Stein. I even managed
to wade through the many controversial topics
documented in the database, and made informed
decisions on priming and Pro-Seal application
techniques. And perhaps most important, I made
numerous friends through contacts on this forum, and
then had the chance to put faces on at Oshkosh,
where I volunteer in homebuilt camping.
I bought the kit in 1995, took delivery in 2000 due
to overseas USAF moves, finally retired and began
construction in 2011; finished a Cygnet; built a
hangar; designed, built and began marketing the
Pedal RV; restored another Cygnet; and then, after 7
years and 4000 hours, it all came together. Empty
weight is 1650 lbs, max gross weight is 3000 lbs. It
carries 80 gal of fuel in a wet wing, and is powered
by a Lycoming O-540 (250 hp version) with a
two-blade Hartzell constant speed prop. The avionics
are second generation King and the EMS is a VM1000C.
The panel is traditional round dial with all
The flight was relatively uneventful with only a few
minor discrepancies. Notably, the airplane was
really fast and I wasn’t able to get it up to the
75% power range for adequate engine break in
procedures. I broke ground within the first 600 ft
and was almost immediately into the yellow range of
airspeed. We had cloud cover at 2500 ft limiting my
ability to climb. Consequently, it wanted to go too
fast and I had to throttle back more than I wanted
for the chrome cylinders. I’ll wait for clear skies
on future flights. No adverse handling
characteristics and I’ll pat myself on the back --
awesome landing. It’s going to be a real performer.
Is this scrap? ...RV-7
E713. I drilled through into the counter
weight to final size of #10 than realizing the E713
called for a #12.
When dimpled for a #8 screw I am seeing a gap at the
root when the bolt is installed.
Smokey Ray Air to Air
52F was doing the RV beehive thing Wednesday.
00000KT and a pattern clobbered with people playing
with their toys. Tuesday evening Smokey Ray texted
me asking if I had a short mission planned for the
next day. Nope. Ideas?
Me, “Meet me over Ponder CCW turns 1000 at 2,500’
on 122.85 for some A2A pics. Preload 122.75.
Standard briefing.” I was there
watching my second hand sweep past 12 at 1000 sharp.
I won’t rub it in too much that Smokey was three
minutes 17 seconds late. ;^)
Still air called for 1/250th. Shot (47) pictures
just pushing the button every few seconds on the
down-sun side of each circle. Maybe he’s in the FOV.
The 11yr old
Canon G9 is small enough to hold in one hand,
and it auto-does just about everything for you. Shot
RAW at 4,000 pixels wide, hoping to crop out the
best stuff later. Link below. The bigger your
monitor the better. It’ll scale if you have the
Not too bad for not looking. Remember back
in the day when getting descent A2A shots was hard?
Other stuff going on around the field besides me and
Smokey, so I got some pics of some of that too.
Other than the brown grass it almost felt like
Spring. A great day for RVating around N. Texas.
Wish you were here.
RVs rock. v/r,
the rest of the pictures...
January 25, 2018. Issue
RV-6A Split Screen Panel ...Planecrazy232
This is a 6A not a 14 but this is how I have my
panel set up. I like the screens on the pilots side.
Amanda wants a tang ...3D printed stuff Steve M.
So, Amanda and I were test fitting fairings and
we concluded that the eyebolt threaded distance
variation from the wing skin was too much to deal
with using a simple cone. Some folks thread these
more than others. She wants a tang. So there it is.
Slow-Build Wings ...Dr. HC Phillips RV-14
I started building my slow-build wings around
mid-May last year. At the time I had just completed
my empennage after about 5 months of effort. Based
on that experience I (laughingly) thought I would be
done with them by this past Christmas, or about 7
months of effort. I am now about 8 months into the
wings and have only gotten this far:
I'm at the step where you rivet the outboard
leading edge to the spar assembly. 8 months and
there is still so much to do before the wings are
finished-fuel tanks, pitot, wiring harnesses,
aileron trim, aileron servo, magnetometer, flaps,
ailerons, and bottom skins. At this point I'm
thinking it is entirely reasonable for it to take a
full year to finish them. I'm curious; am I just a
slow builder or do the wings really take this long
to finish for most folks? I'm 15 months into the
build and I estimate I have about 600 hours in the
total project. Those are actual build-hours. I don't
include head-scratching, cleanup, or other putzing
around the shop hours. How much time/effort has it
taken you slow-build guys to finish your wings?
January 24, 2018. Issue
Cupp's Drive-In via RV-6, RV-6 and RV-8A...
Three of us flew our RVs down to Waco for a
burger - longest trip in a good while (39 minutes).
Grabbed the courtesy truck at Texas Aero with
172,000 on the odom and
shimmied out to Baylor to eat at Cupp's (est.
1929). They fueled us while we ate.
It's the restaurant pictured at the top of the
Courtesy Car/ Food list. The road to the
food took us past the piece of dirt where the
hospital I was born in used to be, and the drive
back went past my old college dump
apartment and the church Susie and I were married
in. I had my driving companions more than
adequately bored. Pics below include the scars
from the grass fire in our neck of the woods that
occurred Monday. Yikes.
PS: Most of the pics are at least 3,800 pixels
wide in full screen mode. If you have a big
monitor it will scale accordingly.
See the pics...descriptions
in the titles of each pic.
Build Update ...KazooRV-9A
Finished riveting the top skins and J-stringers
in place on the Right wing, it's a good days work to
do all that riveting. Be sure to have a plan for
communication between rivet'r and bucking bar'r, you
can get riveters brain fade with all the repetition.
Luckily nothing happened that was bad. But I did use
my first Oops rivet, that was overdue..
High Temperature during take off in RV-7 ...givo in Italy
I guess this issue has been
already discussed many time in this forum .
Nevertheless I’m relatively young in experimental
field and in RVs so I post the following question ,
hoping someone is so nice to give me some suggestion
I have problems of temperature in my RV-7 180 CV . I
have two CHT , one on the most cooled , one on the
least cooled cylinder .
I have also a small door on the lower cowling ( I
miss the English term , in Italian is “ flabello “ )
that can be open with a servo .
With this door open , during take off also in winter
with externa temperature of 30 – 50 F° , the
temperature of the less favorable cylinder goes from
350-400 °F to 450 °F . The other more cooled
cylinder will stay around 400 °F .
After take off I usually level the aircraft quite
soon reducing power as soon as feasible and until
both temperature return to 350 F° but it take quite
a while .
Than I resume normal level flight at 75% power .
From now on temperature are relatively stable around
350 °F but if I start to climb also starting from an
altitude as 3000 ft the temperature of the less
favorable cylinder goes to 400 ° F .
Question : there is a way to improve ventilation
inside the cowling ? Shall I install second door on
the lower cowling ? or may be shall I enlarge the
bottom opening ? regarding the baffle they seems to
sit quite tight with the cowling … tank you for
suggestions … Giulio
What's this part?
Q: What is the best way to do a complete wash of
A: Find a 15 year old kid that wants a
How it Went Down
Attaching the canopy to a QB fuselage ... is this a problem?
This is a QB fuse.
On page 35-22 it shows the location of a fuel tank
sealant line as follows:
January 23, 2018. Issue
Pic below a blast
from the past. Randy Richmond at 52F after take off.
1/250s. f/13 ISO:100 226mm. Canon EOS-1D
Mark II N.
scaled to fit /
Thoughts RE: the Thermal Expansion of Plexi ...AlexPeterson
re-read this thread, and have some thoughts.
It seems we've been discussing stress concentration
factors, which are typically used when, for example,
one places a strip of material containing holes
under tension. The stress is "concentrated" around
the edges of the holes in the manner depicted here:
However, this does not fit our situation entirely.
The above depiction assumes the tension is not being
applied directly on the edges of the hole. In the
case of canopies attached entirely or partially by
rivets, once the acrylic has contracted enough to
contact the rivets at the extreme ends, the force is
applied at the hole. We now have a local contact
stress which may be extremely high.
Bill's interesting test of attaching a strip of
acrylic to a steel angle might have a different
outcome if the strip were wider, yet still attached
in the same way. The resulting force on the fastener
will be proportional to how wide the strip is. Our
canopies are really wide, as analogized to this
I guess for me, what remains a mystery, is why they
don't all crack... When I take mine from a 45F
hangar out into 0F or so weather, the clicking it
makes is horrifying, once the engine is running and
the rapid cooling begins. The clicking is presumably
the acrylic shifting relative to the frame, as the
mounting scheme was designed to allow. If it stops
clicking I need to worry.
It has been doing this every winter for 1600
hours/16 years, and hopefully it will continue to
behave. The -8 is obviously worse case, given its
length and the apparent mis-match to the curvature
near the aft end.
Motivational Video ...Nigel
watching some of the video I said to myself, "Hey,
that's the same airport I'm based at. Then I
had a light bulb over head moment and remembered
this is the nice guy who put a new roof on my house
after the last bad hail storm (his day job is
running a roofing co.). Thanks again Nigel!!!
Low time Pilot, New (to me) RV, motion sickness
Hi All, long time lurker here, only a couple of
I received my recreational cert. back in 2012
(Australian equiv of a sport pilot i suppose).
My 1st flight was in a Fly Synthesis Texan, on a hot
bumpy day. Another student on the ground before my
flight said, "Don't throw up!". We got into the
circuit started doing basic effects of controls etc.
I'm getting greener. I said to the instructor, "i'm
going to spew!" He handed me a towel and I used
that. Nothing actually came out of me, just a big
burp, was a strange experience. We landed, and I
called it quits for the day.
I ended continuing my training, and it took me,
according to my logbook, about 19 hours to go solo.
I battled air sickness the whole way. I then
completed the endorsements I wanted (cross country,
radio, passenger etc).
My instructor was(and is) convinced its all in my
head. I, to a point, agree. Sometimes I would feel
sick before we were even airborn. It was never a
case of being nervous about the flying or the
landing. I knew I could land it, fly it,
navigate etc. I was afraid of being sick.
I kept flying for another year or so in a rented
aircraft, which was a ICP Savannah with a very light
wing loading, STOL kind of aircraft. Probably not
ideal for our climate. Hot, humid, bumpy etc. Then
work rosters and things changed, didnt have time to
Fast forward to present day. I now have a lofty sum
of 60 hours total time.
On the weekend, I pulled the trigger and bought a
RV-7a superior io360 cs dynon SV touch etc, nice
Went for a short flight with the owner, and again
its the middle of our summer, hot humid and bumpy,
After 15 mins, I'm asking to go home. No vomiting,
just the sweats and queezy.
I know it has been a considerable amount of time
since I've flown, and I'll never be an aerobatic
king, but I'm stubborn and have wanted an RV ever
since I found a stack of sport aviation magazines in
a secondhand shop when I was a kid.
But now I'm thinking I've made a mistake. More then
anything, I get angry/disappointed/ashamed about
being sick, and disappointed that I cant enjoy what
has been my passion since I could talk!
Sorry for the long winded post.
Flap rod rod end bearing
Going through archives and found this post. I’m
installing my flap rods and have run into the same
issues with the rod end bearing running out of
enough tread after washering out from the flap end
rib. This is a RV4. I’m sending my drawing, I’m
having trouble understanding the “spacer” added to
get the rod spaced further inboard. Did you use a
different rod bearing than specified? Thanks for any
pics drawings or info you can share. I could make
this work, it’s just a lot more hole running up the
fuse than I wanted.
RE Flap Pushrod Testing for Fauilure ...Scott
3D Printed Tie Down Ring Fairing Update ...Steve Melton
I've never been faster. 141 kts at 20.5 MP, 2325
rpm at 2500 ft. low power setting. low clouds. this
is about 6 kts faster than my normal speed. temp =
Flap bracket fairings with buttons and tie down
fairings, both sides. Slipping thru the air. The tie
down fairings worked perfectly, concept 1 rev 2. I
plan to evaluate concept 2 in the future but I'm
pleased so far.
A Stiffener Mod to the Lower Cowl of a RV-8 ...seen at 52F.
to fit /
to fit /
January 22, 2018. Issue
First flight ...Scott Ahrens
After a long, slow build my RV-7
finally takes flight.
A Father's Blessing ...Scott Chastain
A blast of rain and cold weather
swept through California at the end of the week, and
I awoke Saturday morning to clear, crisp flying
weather. I drove out to the airport and put some
preheat on the engine while I waited for the old man
to show up. My dad and I were heading to Paso Robles
(PRB) for brunch to get the weekend off to a good
As my flight instructor when I was just a boy, and
as my primary rivet bucker during the build of
N898W, my father would be the first passenger to fly
in the Dove since the canopy repair. At nearly
82-years old, the 1961 Cal Berkeley graduate climbed
into the back seat and strapped in. Soon enough, we
Greg Novotny RV-14A ...Luke D post (VAF advertiser)
I'm trying to get back to doing
regular updates on pictures that our customers send
us. These are from Greg N. in Washington State. His
RV-14A looks great. Very professional. Thanks Greg!
Also, click the link below to see more detailed info
about Greg's RV-14A. We've redesigned our customer
galleries to make them easier to use.
While flying to breakfast.....
My wife and I were flying to a
Saturday breakfast we ran across this farm field.
Not sure who it was for, but I wonder if it worked?
RV-Lancair Bro Day
We finally, FINALLY!, got some
decent flying weather today, so Owen, Darwin and I
saddled up and flew to Gwinnett County [LZU] for
lunch today at the Flying Machine. It was roughly a
45 minute flight from Asheville, and the weather was
clear, and smooth. On the way back, some scattered
clouds had formed at ~6,000' over Toccoa, with
associated light turbulence underneath. It was fun!
Wing skins on!!
Right wing bottom skins on. Both wings skins are
now done. Enlisted the wife for some of the harder
to reach ones. This is one small milestone I've been
looking forward to. It was warm today in the garage.
Flat Tire Update ...airguy
My new tires and tubes showed up
so I jumped into the task today. I had a little
damage on both main wheel pants from pulling off
into soft dirt and a little grinding action on the
flat tire side, nothing some touchup paint won't
solve. Apparently I picked up some piece of debris
on the takeoff roll or very shortly before, in the
wheel pant that cut the sidewall of the right main
and got through it to the tube. I did not find the
offending piece of debris, just the evidence of it's
passage. I replaced the Vans OEM tires/tubes with
Desser 6-ply retreads and Michelin Airstop tubes.
Incidentally - kudos to Desser - they include a
small baggy of talc powder with the tubes for
convenience, nice to see that. No instructions on
how to use it - they expect you to know that already
- but it's nice that they include it.
My OEM nosewheel looks like the day I installed it,
with 205 hours - guess I'm treating it correctly.
from old fart Roger.........
I want you all to know that I really appreciate the
numerous “Thank Yous”, compliments and “Atta Boys”
sent my way for running this outfit. However, I
often feel the shoe should be on the other foot.
Today’s event at Punta Gorda (KPGD) is a case in
point. It was way too cold to fly my old Stearman an
hour each way. No problem, Old Fart Jeff Weston
chauffeured me in his 1958 Comanche 180... a truly
great airplane. Once at EAA Hangar 565, Old Fart
Larry McClure and his crew fed me, and even gave me
an “Old Fart” coffee mug. Then Old Fart Walt Fricke
chauffeured me across the field to the hangars where
we were all treated to a tour of incredible
aircraft. The tour was made possible by Old Fart Jim
Lyons. And, more than twenty of you braved the cold
and flew in to let me look at your airplanes.
Makes me wonder who should be thanking who? How
about a big, “Hip, Hip Horray!!!” all the way
What a great venue!!! The EAA clubhouse was once the
concrete backstop for sighting in P-40 Warhawk
machine guns. The airfield was a WWII training base.
It is the only WWII building remaining on the field.
Here’s a pano shot of the interior. I think Larry’s
crew fed well over fifty.
January 19, 2018. Issue
00000KT this morning
(23*F) so I gotta go fly for at least a few minutes. I mean
come on.....00000KT. Saw the cause of a recent column of smoke
around our area. Grass fire
- pic below.
Two quick site items. First, the VAF 2018-2019
calendar has been activated, so if you want your RV gatherings
to start showing up on the front page of VAF and at the bottom of
the forums (when logged in) you can now enter those RV events.
Second, the link to the GOES East Vis/Fog Sat image on the
recently changed. I adjusted it to the new link.
Sorry I didn't catch that earlier.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled (and warm) weekend.
to fit /
Fuel Pump Failure Mode ...Craig Taylor
Our RV8 has IO360M1A and a Tempest Fuel Pump
#L15473. When cleaning up the aircraft yesterday
after a long cross country I found a trail of
gasoline dye behind the fuel pump drain tube. As a
check, I pressurized the fuel system with the boost
pump on the ground and no leakage was seen. Also,
when pressurizing the system with the engine driven
pump by cranking the engine, no discharge from the
fuel pump drain was noted. The pump has accumulated
1400 flight hours since new.
Does anyone know how these pumps fail? Does the
diaphragm slowly crack, or can the final failure be
catastrophic? (I had planned to attend the 75th
anniversary of my Navy Attack squadron in California
this weekend but feel it would be risky to attempt
the 9 hours of flight time over barren countryside.)
Any knowledge that you all might be able to provide
will be appreciated.
RV-10 Build Update ...mciaglia
"..I think its time to move
the wife's car out of the 2 car garage. Its gettnig
DID YOU KNOW about switching
coverage from builders to flight?
During all of your hard work while building your
aircraft, you couldn’t wait to get it up in the air.
When it’s time to fly, make sure you remember to
update your insurance policy. In fact, it may be
beneficial to update the policy prior to being ready
to fly. Did you know there is no coverage under a
builder’s risk policy once the aircraft is moving
under its own power? You can put fuel in the tank
and you can start the engine, but if the plane gets
away from you, there’s no coverage. We want to make
sure you have the right coverage at the right time.
If you’re ready to get a full flight quote or even
if you just started building, give us a call for
quotes. At Gallagher, we have our girls that work
specifically on Vans, but we also have several other
people on our team that can quote just about any
type of aircraft you can come across.
RV-3B Build Update ...David Paule
Seems like it's been a long time... in fact it
The things I've done in the last month are small
stuff. I'm getting ready to attach the next long
side skin, and while it's still off, wanted to do
some of the smaller stuff. These are things like
riveting those bulkhead flanges that I made to the
bulkhead's webs. These are finally done, along with
a few less exciting things.
PnP Data Point ...AndyRV7
I've flown a few dogs in my 7 and none have been
crated. I looked around for a soft sided crate but
they don't seem to be made to fit an RV without
giving up some useable space. And they seem to be
unable to hold a curious dog in place, from the
reviews I've read. Also, the dogs are mostly crated
when they get to you, whether you are the 1st leg or
the last. I always specify I can't use a crate for
If I fly the flight alone, I take out the passenger
seat and put 2 or 3 harbor freight moving blankets
down and create a little bit of a cradle with them.
They are ALWAYS on sale for $5.99 and once folded to
fit the plane space, will contain any potential
"issues" you may have. I have not had an issue
yet... If a friend wants to come with me I put the
blankets in the baggage area. Most dogs have been
energetic and curious once loaded but all have slept
once we started taxiing and the canopy was closed. I
tether to the support behind the seat and keep it
long enough for the dog to lay down, but short
enough to keep them from reaching the controls. You
can add some shade in the Summer.
Like someone else said, it's a great thing if you
like helping animals. I began just taking trips that
had 15 pound sized dogs. My last trip was a VERY
energetic Springer Spaniel of about 25 pounds. I
realized then I could probably handle a 40 pound
dog. Incidentally, the tether is more to keep the do
in the plane during open-canopy ops prior to
takeoff. Every dog I have transported has been an
attention hound! Just some ideas. Give it a try.
Build Update ...Andy C 9A
Finished up riveting the outer leading edge. Then
time to pressure test the right fuel tank. The
wife had a bicycle pump, but it seemed to only fit a
1980's Cannondale tire tube,,, so no joy there. But
I found my trusty Mastervac and pumped things up
sufficiently to soap up all the seams and rivets,
and no leaks indicated, Yay! Installed the
tank and now onto riveting the top skins.
New Guy Chimes In ...Steve F.
I just ordered my empennage kit so after lurking
for some time I am on my way and hope to meet new
people and make new friends.
This will be my third airplane project. I currently
built and I am flying 902AL which is a Zenith,
CH650B air-frame (essentially the same as the RV-12)
powered by a Lycoming 0235-N2C with MGL Avionics and
Comm, uAvionix ADSB.
I love 2AL but I have decided I want to step up my
building as well as piloting game.
If anyone has any newbie advice I am all ears.
Looking forward to the RV-Grin One Day.
RV-9A Build Update ...dwranda
Left wing bottom skin on!! 12 degrees outside and
I'm riveting the right wing bottom skin in my
unheated garage. Tired of waiting for warmer
weather. Let's Git er Done!!!
RE: Acrylic Thickness and Thermal Properties ...Clive in New Zealand
A couple more complicating factors:
The thickness of acrylic sheet stock as it comes
from the manufacturer can vary slightly across it's
surface. Part of our business is making acrylic
aircraft windows (including RV12 rear windows for
the local builders btw) and for say a typical 3mm
thickness we have seen occasional variations from
about 2.8mm up to 3.2 in the one sheet. Generally
not a problem because many of the windows we make
are relatively small so we can avoid any issues. But
for the bigger canopies who knows, this might be
contributing to the cracking problem.
Something else to consider is that when a canopy is
blown, especially the longer narrow types such as
the RV8, there is a lot of stretch and thinning of
the acrylic happening at the highest point. Starting
off with say 3mm acrylic could easily see it reduced
to around half that thickness in some cases (think
of inflating a balloon). Add in slightly thinner
than spec acrylic to start with and this could go
some way toward explaining why some installations
fair better than others.
I always cringe a little when I think of the
compression forces being applied when rivets are
used to directly secure acrylic. Not disputing that
many get away with it for years on end but it's not
ideal. With bolts many hundreds of psi can easily be
applied when over-torquing nuts and bolts. That's
why good practice is to tighten to a firm fit and
then back off a full turn of the nut. It only has to
be lightly tightened. Also the hole in the acrylic
should be half as big again as the bolt diameter
with each bolt centred in the hole i.e. 4mm bolt -
6mm hole. This is another disadvantage of rivets
because they try to expand to fill the hole as they
Personally I have gone with Sikaflex for my canopy
and screen. Trying to give myself the best shot at a
trouble free installation. Time while of course
January 18, 2018. Issue
50 to go to 5,000 ...turbo
Almost sold her a few years ago but couldn't part
with her. Felt much better to do some upgrades
and keep what I felt so comfortable with. I
love this plane and where it has brought me over the
past 18 years. Hope to pass the 5,000 mark and
keep on going till..........
Fly your bird, these planes are the best.
Why RV-12's have wing-tip handholds (resurrecting an old thread with
I know I'm resurrecting an old thread here, but I
thought I'd close the circle on this one by posting
a video of an RV landing on Sollas beach last
As Keith found out the hard way, you have to
carefully identify the correct area of beach to land
on, and the surface is not always as dry as in this
video, but Sollas beach as marked on the charts will
definitely take the weight of even the larger RV's.
A careful inspection before landing for ridging or
washed up debris is a good idea though, or even
better a briefing from someone on the beach!
[ed. I enjoyed this video
very much. Full screen! v/r,vafdr].
Rudder Leading Edge Started ...azflyer21 RV-14
Today I set up my bench to roll the Rudder
leading edge. I successfully finished 2 sections,
now that I'm comfortable with the process I should
be able to finish the rest tomorrow.
Bottom cowl closeout glitch ...RV-14
We just finished our 1st Conditional Inspection
at 150 hours on N199MJ. I'm happy to report
everything looks like new except for this glitch
with P/N FF-00003A (bottom cowl closeout). I would
suggest using a doubler to strengthen this thin
aluminum where the bracket is riveted. Happy New
Year to our RV family from Roger and Myra.
3D Printing Fun ...Steve Melton
Kicking this idea around with Amanda. maybe
something like this?
Workbench Retract Wheels ...Mike Rettig
I build my (3) work tables with "retractable
gear" too. The "lock blocks" simply drop into place
when you pick up the table. Later, I took some thin
nylon rope and tied it to little eyes in each block
and then to another eye under the bottom of the
table. The rope was left loose enough so that the
blocks drop into place when you lift the table edge
slightly. However, when you want to "raise the gear"
you simply pull on the rope, lifting the lock blocks
back up. Hence, no need to bend over whatsoever.
January 17, 2018. Issue
Cold down here in Texas (for me at least)...no
RVating observed. Spent an hour at the health club I jokingly
call 'VA Fitness'...the exercise equipment in
the corner of the hangar with a propane heater nearby. Taco
Tuesday lunch at Rosa's with the usual suspects ($2.62 discount) and
back home to bond with electrons on the QWERTY. No time in a
plane, but I got to look at one from the treadmill, so maybe that
counts for something ;^). Probably not...
Hope it's warmer where you are.
First Flight: Another RV-7A Takes to the Sky! ...Walt at 52F
Good friend Mike Ciaccio made his first flight
yesterday at 52F, everything went smooth as
expected. Congratulations Mike!!
Workbench w/Retractable Wheels
...video shot at my home field Tuesday.
Wheels are from a $10 furniture dolly bought from
Harbor. Maybe another $4 in hinges and wood.
Beats buying those massive castors that are $15/ea.
Video of Wheels Being Extended / Retracted
Martin Buehler's RV-4 Pilots 'N Paws Setup
I've done a medium sized dog in the back of my
RV4 which would be similar. I removed the back seat
and stick which made the whole back area a "crate".
Plastic down for accidents, then pillows and
blankets on the floor, and the dog seemed to like
having sun or shade depending on where he lay.
Panel Pic ...FitzRX7
Finally posting full view of my finished
panel...if only to nudge Oly to put full glass in
From the Mothership
Ikea Shop Cart
Tie Down Ring Fairing Concept 1 ...Steve Melton 3D printing
"...to be spring loaded for quick removal and
install. you know, I fly around with these tie downs
hanging out and use them only occasionally but I
don't want to be threading them in and out when I
need them. not a good idea if it's gusty. I want to
leave them in place and add a quickly removable
fairing. the goal is to be able to remove and
install the fairing with one hand."
Turf wars between new Avionics and F-402C
in the early stages of designing and building a new
panel for my -4. This is what I've dreamed up and
skillfully laid out in the most technical manner...
It's recently come to my attention that there's a
part of the F-402 bulkhead behind where I'd like my
430/327 radios to go. F-402C goes right behind the
panel, across the width of the fuselage.
How are others getting around this? Has anyone
modified F-402C? Has anyone ever moved it? Is it
just something that everybody is building around?
It's really limiting me on placement of my radios...
p.s. Yes, I've seen panels with radios mounted
between the pilots legs... I'm trying to avoid that
at all costs because I have a firewall mounted
battery and some really awesome cabin heat I don't
want to modify (or cook the radios).
'Rebirthing' Update ...Kentlik 7A
January 16, 2018. 0008Z. Issue
Got in a quick loop, two rolls and a split-S
before the Wx arrived Monday in our area (pano pic below). And
the 16L practice ILS at KAFW. Passed the NASCAR track after
going missed and turning east RTB (look for the Texas-shaped pool in
the full size version). Could have worn shorts before lunch.
Not so much afterwards.
It's cold again. Bleh.
6,480 x 2,407 full size
3,264 x 2,448 full size
Flight Testing of Repaired Canopy Crack ...Scott Chastain
The San Joaquin Valley winter fog finally broke
on the afternoon of Sunday, January 14. I raced from
Church to the airport and put some preheat on the
engine while I prepped the Dove for her first
flight since the canopy repair. After taking my dog,
Gracie, for a little adventure walk around the
airport, I pushed the plane out of the hangar for
the first time since Christmas Day. It had been 3
weeks since the canopy was removed.
Will helmet (or head) break the canopy?
With my seat a comfortable height for normal
(blue-side up) flying, I find when I do neg g
maneuvers my helmet hits the canopy. I cinch up the
belts but it still happens. I have a slider and was
concerned if I could crack the canopy?
If I am not going to be doing aerobatics, I don’t
wear the helmet and my head doesn’t hit even in
turbulence. The things I have thought of: lower the
seat but that will restrict forward visibility, pad
the helmet, don’t wear a helmet, or don’t worry
A: I have heard of one
occurrence, here in Colorado, where a very seasoned
RV-6 pilot smacked his head during turbulence and
cracked his slider canopy enough that it needed to
be replaced. That being said, I believe the canopy
had flown for many years before this occurred.
Although it's always been hangared, it sees a lot of
flight hours too.
A: Ages ago, I learned
aerobatics in an open-cockpit airplane over the
ocean. The first thing we'd so was roll upside down
and roll back upright. Then we'd tighten our safety
belts as much as possible. We repeated this and if
necessary, we tightened again. Having no canopy and
a cold ocean underneath made this seem important.
Show us Your RV-4 ...Jvon811
I actually was fortunate to join the club back in
June 2017 but this is my first pic post! N249P is
early-ish (S/N #715) with 327TT. O-320 with a Ben
Warnke Prop. Improvements in the works are a new
panel, "Poor man's cold air intake", heated seats,
and many others. Located KFNT, Flint, MI.
RV-7 Status ...pazmanyflyer
Finished horizontal intake. Started and
finished trimming baffles over this past weekend. I
have a nice evenly spaced (3/8"ish) baffle to cowl.
Still need to do the air gap seal.
Video on oil
Build Update ...KazooRV-9A
Continued working on the right wing leading edge.
Had a couple of days last week in the upper 50's
here in SW Michigan, worked with the shop door open
Leading edge now on, finally something permanently
Stand-by Alternator Photos
Anyone have photos of installation of a stand-by
alternator on the rear engine case? It's kinda
crowded back there and I am wondering about
January 15, 2018. 0001Z. Issue
A bit of a rarity occurred Sunday....Susie, Tate and I all flew via
RV to lunch. Tate flew in the back of Chris Pratt's
unbelievably beautiful -8 (his first ride in an 8 - pic right).
We ended up with (8) RVs on the ramp and enjoyed a fun walk to and
from the Hard Eight BBQ.
It's been too long. Susie and I launched early so we could
stop in Mineral Wells for cheaper gas on the way down ($3.79).
Five minutes added to the trip to Stephenville, but saved nearly $10
total (KSEP was $4.33). We called Mineral Wells Unicom ten
miles out asking for fuel and the nice lady said 'shut down next to
the fuel truck'. The truck was running and ready to go when we
taxied up. Had us on our way in about ten minutes. What
It's always nice to catch up with other members of the B.C. Squadron, and
we always end up asking ourselves why we don't do it more often.
Hope you had a nice weekend also.
Old farts converge on Okeechoobee...turbo's words <g>
Wrapping my RV-14A ...Jared Solomon
New 3D Printing Service Bureau Announcement
1st Photo Post ...egp8111's RV-4
Hoping to get the W&B done next week and
scheduled with the FAA for inspection
RV-4 MS1095 ...new 'My RV Build Project' thread
Baggage Door Alarm ...RV-10
I put a micro switch in the upper rear corner. It
seemed like the best location to not be seen or
snagged on something going in or out of the door. I
made the bracket loop around the switch to provide
protection. The bracket can be lightly bent to
position the switch accurately.
Jim W's RV-4 ...Smokey Ray post
Build Update ...kiljoy
January 12, 2018. Issue
I would like to
publicly welcome Gary Platner (RV-8) to the Board of Directors of
the airport we are both based at (www).
Scott Doores stepped down after six years of hard work and Gary has
replaced him. There was talk last night at the board meeting
of a RV Fly-In at 52F sometime this year - food trucks, fuel
trucks and parking need to be worked out.
Centrally located in the middle of the country. Got to
celebrate that new runway Texas-style!
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
Done ...laz RV-8
"All I have to do is fly."
From the Mothership...
(NOTICE TO GEORGIA CUSTOMERS:)
We are now required to collect sales tax on all
parts and kit orders from our customers who are
receiving shipments within the state of Georgia.
This includes engines and propellers purchased from
Van’s Aircraft and drop shipped by our OEM
suppliers. Since the tax amount varies based upon
the county of the shipping address, the tax cannot
automatically be applied during checkout for online
orders. Therefore, the tax will be computed and
included as part of the invoice total, subject to
our payment policy prior to shipment. If you are a
business and have a Tax Exempt permit, please send
us a copy of your permit with your builder’s number
to firstname.lastname@example.org so we may attach it to
The Unhappy Cracky Club ...Scott Chastain
On the night of December 1, 2017, I flew my RV-8,
N898W, Descending Dove, to Tehachapi, CA
(TSP) and spent the night in the pilots’ lounge. I
found after-hours access to a room with plenty of
space on the floor to inflate my mattress and unroll
a sleeping bag. I wanted to explore the town of
Tehachapi the next day.
Pics from Petit Jean '17
I'm a little late in posting these links but
Petit Jean 2017 was something very special. What a
great group of RV drivers and riders! I'll just let
the pictures speak for themselves! The links to
albums at the end have hundreds of spectacular
pictures of you and all your RV buddies and
buddettes! What follows is just a sample of all the
miles of smiles!
I too decided to wrap rather than paint. Also
using the 3M 1080 film. There are a few tricks to
learn like when to use heat and when to not along
with where to start applying the film when it comes
to complex shapes. Overall it's pretty easy and if I
don't like it simply peel it off.
Here are a few pictures of my wingtips and ailerons
Updated Panel Pic ...Walt
Tall/Short Pilot Input ...catmandu
Finally got some today, here's the base, aft
looking forward, seat back installed in the forward
position. You can see there is an interim set of
nutplates as well, should we ever have a 5'7" pilot,
Here is a picture of the top of the seatback with
the extension I riveted on to the plans-specified
extension. Tried to rotate it, Imgur fail on my
Seen at Richmond Aircraft (52F)
...I took these pics Thursday. vafdr
RV-6 Cracked Motor Mount Repair w/Gussets and new paint
Attempting to Wrap the Cowl ...sahrens
Well Bruce I took your advice. After finishing
the oil door I was going to wrap the empennage
fairing but I decided to have a go at the upper
cowling. Moving to a much larger peice of vinyl was
a little more difficult than I had imagined. The
backing material that is removed is fairly thick and
does not want to bend. I was hesistant to remove all
the backing for fear the vinyl would stick to
itself. It did anyway and much like duck tape, it
really sticks. There is a happy place in there
somewhere where just enough backing is removed to
allow applying the vinyl and removing too much.
All that said about 1/3 of the way into this I knew
it was going to get pulled off. The material is
relatively strong, it will stretch and it will
shrink. It will also tear, especially when heated or
over stretched. Long story short I had some small
pock marks of damage that I wasn't satisfied leaving
on the aircraft. Once that decision was made I just
made this a learning project working on technique,
how much heat was too much and how to work compound
January 11, 2018. Issue
Please excuse the
early push of the Thursday edition. There is a board meeting
for the airport I'm based at this evening and I'm on the board. vafdr
RV-12 w/Stearman Mirage
RV-12 on the taxiway at 52F with a Stearman
in the distance - taken a few months back. Click on 'Full Size' to see the
4,000 x 2,248
pixel original - if you've got a big 'ol honkin monitor.
Finally Thawed ...Pete Howell
Got over 40 today in Minne - sunset pic of the Emerald
Flat tire on landing - a little western
So I went goofing off today with my uncle, just a
chance to burn some fuel and recalibrate my head. 0.7 on the hobbs
and the sun is going down, time to park it. As soon as the mains
touched down on the 30-foot wide pavement I noticed it pulling
right, within less than a second it was pulling right A LOT and I
knew what was happening. Full left rudder was OK through about 40
knots then left brake and more left brake, to the point I was almost
sliding the left wheel coming down through about 10 knots but kept
it on the runway. It was swervy to say the least, but I kept it on
Pulled the wheelpant, the tube would hold air for about 3 minutes so
we just aired it up and used our Rhino tug to pull it back to the
hangar, took 2 mid-way stops for more air to get it put away.
Datalogs showed it was 14 seconds from wheel contact to full stop,
that would have been a rather impressive short-field landing if I
hadn't been so busy trying to suck the seat cushion up my butt. My
condition inspection was due to start in 2 weeks, I guess this just
moved the start point up a bit.
Be careful out there...
Water Bottle Speed Mod
Review of my panel Thread
are a “few” comments, and of course, your mileage may vary:
1. The USB port on the left is so close to the throttle that there
may be interference with the port or the cables;
2. If there is anything dangling from the ignition key, it may hit
the stick when deflected or be a nuisance on your leg;
3. Things that earn their way onto the stick are those that you use
frequently and need promptly, or need to access when both hands are
busy. Boost pump does not qualify. Also, there’s the concept of
flow, that you move your attention around the cockpit in the same
order as they appear on the checklist to make sure that the switches
are all set. Boost pump on the stick probably wouldn’t fit that
4. Similarly, the only reason for having flaps on the stick is if
you need to dump flaps on the rollout. I’ve thought about doing this
on my RV-8;
5. Nice that your stick grip is not left or right handed;
6. I’ve learned to fly my RV-9A with left hand on the stick, and it
no longer has the awkward feeling it did when I started. You’ll have
all of Phase 1 to get used to it, so you might not need the dual
7. Good that you grouped your switches instead of having a long row;
8. I’d put strobe at the end, rather than in the middle;
9. If you ever do go inside cloud, it will be strobes off, pitot
heat on. You might consider putting them next to each other;
10. The parking brake is in an area normally reserved for power
controls, and more specifically, for carburetor heat. I’d move it.
Similarly for cabin heat;
11. No point in putting warning lights on the center stack, put them
in front of the pilot;
12. Having a light for fuel pump on is no longer considered by all
to be good human factors (quiet, dark cockpit concept). The argument
is that it gets you used to seeing a light on;
13. Move the seat warmer switches closer to the pilot.
Hope this helps,
Well, not only am I nuts for polishing my aircraft, I also am
using vinyl as well. So I started with the easiest component I could
find, the oil door. It took about an hour to explore how much the
vinyl would stretch / shrink..it will also tear.
All in all it was fairly easy to work with once I got started.
And more wrapping ...
I did use the end roll piece approach to vinyl
wrapping and had my kids cut them before applying
(nice family project ...):
Split Screen or 2 Portrait displays
(Des) As a new builder, panel
questions are coming up, and I wonder if there are any comments or
suggestions about which setup would have better utility.
The 10" model allows a split screen, so I wonder if anyone is
finding advantages of using two of the 7" Portrait displays? (well,
one could serve as a backup). Looks like you lose a control knob on
the 7" model. And I haven't seen any examples of the 7" screen
allowing a full screen view of traffic, weather or engine
None of the "Show us your panel" images in the forum showed the two
Portrait displays side by side (also not shown in the photo
galleries of Steinair or Aerotronics).
The mission is for long cross countries, not yet IFR ticketed.
I'm a big fan of the portrait displays, probably because thats what
I've flown in my own aircraft for a number of years now. The 7" is
taller than the 10" but the 2 7's don't have quite as much screen
area as the 10". I chose to keep my seperate engine monitor (MVP-50)
so that I don't lose the screen real estate to the eng instruments.
Doing it this way gives me a larger/taller map than I would have on
the 10" display. I also prefer to have both screens in front of me
for redundancy purposes, with the flip of a switch or on screen
button push the MFD is immediate a PFD so it's a total non event if
one of the screens fails with this arrangement. I'll post some
update panel pictures showing the 470 touch screens I now have and a
few other changes I've made (added a 660 which I mainly use as a
full time traffic page or IFR plate). I'm considering (if I ever
have time) to change this to a 3 screen setup but honestly I'm VERY
happy with the current layout.
Doug Eves RV-6 Ground Pic
Alternator failure ...make sure you read the last paragraph
So there I was 30 miles to go navigating through
the rain and wind trying to get home, then a battery warning light
comes on, O **** I knew instantly I had to take action and start
load shedding electricity to keep the computer alive to fire the
sparkplugs to keep the engine running, as the battery is on a
limited life and draining quick, if the battery dies, the engine
dies! I needed to decide what goes off NOW, all lights off, It was
getting dark and could barley see, all fans and heat OFF, windscreen
started fogging up and it was getting cold, then the engine rpm
started fluctuating unexpectedly, WHAT THE!, more warning lights
started coming on the panel and then the most scary, the engine
started to miss and started shaking bad, then no power, them more
power and stumbling, very worried I was not going to make it home,
it then started slowing down and I got real scared! then I touched
on the brakes and those lights brought the computer operational
voltage below operational threshold and the engine Died! I
used the very last amount of velocity to make the final
turn.............into the driveway.
WHEW! yes this was in my car tonight, but it was good practice for
my all electric Fuel and IGN powered RV! my goodness I hope I never
have to experience this in the air.
7A Slider, EFII Angle 360, CS, SJ.
RE: Thermal Expansion and Canopies ...Chris Pratt RV-8
Hopefully this is not too far off topic, but 5 or
6 years ago, after hearing of a rash of cracked
canopies that occurred in cold weather with the
aircraft parked in the hangar, I decided that when
my RV-8 is parked I would not completely close
the canopy, i.e. I do not latch the canopy when
parked in the hangar.
I figure there's no need to put stress on the canopy
when it is just sitting especially with the rapid
changes in temperature we can experience in Texas.
Perhaps it has helped, I have no way of knowing for
sure, but so far no cracks. If you currently are
latching your canopy when securely parked in a
hangar, consider leaving the canopy just slightly
open. It may make a difference.
Semi-related: Our Site Mascot
I was going through some pics and found this gem
of Moondog. I thought I would share.
He's a sweetypie, an older, set-in-his-ways
January 10, 2018. Issue
Fog at the home field Tuesday
0900 - no RVating before noon.
First flight today
Finally, it’s been an eight year part-time
project but we had a decent day here in Michigan for
a first flight. 1.5 hours breaking in a new engine
at 75% power and all performed as expected. Chts
below 350, oil temp butterfly worked great to adjust
oil temp to 200. Fast and heavy on the controls at
those settings, did a lot of autopilot flying,
checking systems. Today was basically keeping eyes
on engine gauges, a few stalls, slow flight.
Landings need some work though, takeoff was sweet.
Dave Ford RV-10
More info on Sam Buchanan's Tug
Got to the hangar today and refined the towbar so
it will be more suitable for pushing the RV-6. I
removed the carabiner and fabricated a pin hitch:
It is just two steel straps bolted to the
Cessna-type towbar handle. This should work while
pushing or pulling and is what I would use if I had
a nose-dragger. The drawbar is fabricated from steel
angle and bolts to the brackets that used to attach
the front of the mower deck.
...written by our own Paul Dye (RV-8/3) about his
former coworker (and moonwalker) John Young.
[ed. And be sure to read
Critical Burn also. v/r,vafdr]
Things Crammed in a RV-10
Cholera Clinic Supplies.
Surgical gloves, bed pans, saline solution, HRP's,
gas powered pressure washer, solar powered water
Page 06-02 step 6 ...RV-14
I ordered my RV-14 empennage kit
so now it's time to start asking really, really
basic questions. On the very first page of the build
instructions, it says to "dimple the rivet holes on
the aft face of the VS-702 Front Spar and VS-01401
Front Spar Doubler" and then in the associated
Figure 4 it says "dimple flush aft." Does this mean
to dimple toward the aft or dimple toward the front
so the flush side is to the aft? I assume the
latter, but I don't want to act on a bad assumption
on the very first page of the kit.
I look forward to getting started on the build. Rest
assured that I will have more basic questions as I
go, and for posterity I will make future builders
even more comfortable asking their basic questions
since they can't possibly be more basic than mine
Review of my panel design/layout
So I'm working on FWF and will be moving into panel
and wiring next. I have held off long enough and
think I need some input on my panel design/layout.
Please let me know your thought pro's and con's. RV7
More on that Dog
We are not sure if Truman likes flying or just
hates being left at home. He has been flying in the
RV-10 since he was 8 weeks old. We picked him up
near Mt Shasta CA on the way home from Oshkosh 2016.
AeroSun VX install attempt #1
Today I removed the right wingtip and read the
installation instructions for the AeroSun VX landing lights. I
thought I understood them pretty well and started to make the cutout
for the light. I placed the template in the tip and drilled both
holes to #30, marked out the area for removal with a fine sharpie
and used a cutoff wheel to remove a large portion. Then I used a
small bit in a air grinder and cut up to the line being sure not to
remove it. Some 100 grit sand paper was used and I sanded into the
line a little before checking the final fit. It took about 3-4 times
of removing just a little here and there before the light would fit
in the cutout like it says in the instructions. I think they call
out about 1/2" on the inside and 2" on the outside that the light
protrudes from the opening. The instructions don't say anything
about trimming the light but I had to remove a little material at
the flanges that hold the insert nuts so they not hit the tip. (pics
below) All looked great and I went ahead and drilled the two screw
holes to #27. I assembled the screws and washers and springs.... Uh
Oh.... something isn't quite right. It looks like by inserting the
screws that the whole light has moved outward by almost 1/8". What
used to fit perfectly now fits like ****. I checked the template
against the left side light and the holes in the template seem to
line up pretty well. Not sure whats going on but I suspect that I
may have to fill the holes and drill new ones. I'll figure this out
tomorrow but I do want to say that I am looking for perfection here.
I like working with fiberglass and I want a perfect even reveal all
around the light of about 1/16". Heres some random pics of the
process and some of me just taking pics at different angles trying
to figure out what to do.
Well that didn't go as planned...opening pandora's box.
So I pulled everything down to
ready to remove cylinders, then had one of the
engine shop guys come help me pull the cylinders for
my piston upgrade.
#1 and #2 no problem, pulled #3 and there is a
lifter that's chewed up and it would appear that I
have an issue with a cam lobe.
This "inexpensive" horsepower upgrade just changed
On a brighter note, it sure will be easier replacing
the two studs on the impulse coupled side of my case
for my pmag...with the engine off the airplane.
I guess we all get little surprises like this
somewhere in our aircraft ownership tenure...
Well, Poop. That's what I said when he showed me.
Vinyl shark teeth on a -7a?
Im looking to add shark mouth and teeth to the
lower cowl on a RV7-a. Like to do this with quality
vinyl press and stick instead of paint so it is less
permanent. Anyone know of any US shops with vinyl
experience doing this on a -6a or -7a? lower cowl. I
can apply. Want to keep it simple, and not
January 9, 2018. 0001Z. Issue
Things Crammed in an RV-10 ...N402RH wins the internet today.
Two people, Four full 7 1/2 gallon Kegs, a Dog
and his birthday cake to a beer competition in
Aircraft Tug-or how to salvage an old Murray ...Sam Buchanan
Even though the paved ramp outside my hangar is
nearly level, the RV-6 just seems to be getting more
difficult each year to pull into the hangar.....the
plane must be getting heavier.....
In order to avoid straining high-mileage body parts
I decided to replace the soft tissue tug with
something more substantial. There was a thread on
VAF some time back about how to repurpose various
means of locomotion so they would move an aircraft
into a hangar.
The father of one our VAFers has a yard-full of lawn
mowers that is in a constant state of flux as he
buys, trades, swaps with the community. He loaded an
old, ugly derelict Murray riding mower of 1993
vintage on my truck and I proceeded to resurrect it
as an RV tug. After some minor refreshening of the
engine, tubes in the dry-rotted tires and a complete
tear-down for cleaning and paint after throwing away
everything that didn't look like a tug, I have a rig
that effortlessly pulls the RV-6 up the ramp and
into the hangar. My regular towbar attaches to a
drawbar on the front of the tug and it backs the
RV-6 into place. My back and knees will live to fly
Go/No Go - Spar Caps Trimming
I started on my van’s RV-10
Empennage kit and in the first step of the Vertical
Stabilizer, it calls for trimming the rear spar caps
(Section 6, Page 2 - Step 1). I made the markings,
drew a straight line and trimmed it. When I came
back and read the plans again I realized I didn’t
straighten the bow while I drew the straight line.
Attached is the picture of the rear spar cap clamped
straight. I placed a piece of scrap aluminum with a
straight edge against it to show the issue. Now the
question is, is it acceptable to go forward?
RV-6 - Red Phoenix (N111BN)
RV-10 - Tail Kit Started
Having No Plan to Fly to Tullahoma
The Petit Jean Fly-in was next on our agenda. That
started Friday, and it was only Tuesday. We’d be checking out of the
Buckhorn Inn the next morning, with no plan between now and then. I
always like to have a plan. I like to know where we’re going, where
we’ll find dinner and where we’ll sleep.
With our new vagabond life, we can't always have a plan. Slowly, I'm
learning to relax
Sunset Flight ...j-red
I found my old gopro knockoff camera in a drawer
this past week and welded up a mount to fit in a
tiedown slot. The video quality is pretty poor, as
this camera doesn't handle low light very well, but
it was fun just the same to get a little different
perspective on the flight. This might just be what
inspires me to buy one of the newer action cams, and
ill have to try some other mounting locations in the
G5 or GRT Mini
I ended up with the G5 and Backup Battery. My
panel is mainly Dynon so I wanted a backup from a
different manufacturer. The G5 has a serial
connection to the GTN650. The Mini would have been
my first choice but it didn't fit in the space I had
after removing the Dynon D6. The Mini is 4.35" wide,
the G5 is 3.42"
I have been very happy with the G5. Garmin did a
nice job with the internal GPS antenna. I thought
for sure I'd need to use an external antenna but the
internal one works great, even at the top of the
center stack in the 10.
Michael Kalfsbeck's G5
Get the G5 with battery back up. I've been
running it now about 2 months and love it. See pic
A case of tall pilot/short pilot
The lady and I both have separate
partnerships in certified aircraft but are thinking
of selling off and getting our first plane together,
an RV-6. Thankfully, we live in an RV rich area with
an active EAA chapter. We were able to do a fit
check in a local RV-6 to gather more information on
whether this platform will work for us. We came away
with a few A-HA items.
1. I am 6’3. She is 5’4. The a/c we sat in had about
3” of fwd adjustment on the seat to get her closer
but even full forward, she would need the pedals
closer to her feet. We could put an extension on the
pedal, but we’d also be swapping seats regularly.
Anyone dealt with an issue like this? A back cushion
might help but then we would need to ensure the
ability for full aft stick deflection. Perhaps not a
major issue since she is small.
I was told the placement of pedals are one of the
design decisions made by the builder and can vary
between airframes. The builder of this test bird was
tall like me so perhaps this example was ideal for
2. Canopy headroom. We sat in a slider. Does the tip
up provide anymore clearance? My guess is not.
Fortunately I wear a halo headset instead of an over
the top, but I probably wouldn’t be able to wear at
Stuff Crammed in RV-10s ...aturner
The 20 year old K&N in my RV-6 was
18 1/2" round. I think that has shrunk around 2
inches from the 20+" of the new one!
I now think the bottom plate on the K&N in my FAB is
meant to be there as it is exactly the right length
for the rib around the new K&N to go around it.
Makin 'em Fit
Doug Eves ...inflight.
January 8, 2018. 0007Z. Issue
Kinda blue today. Our daughter is back in CA working on her
PhD in 'chembio' as she calls it - visited for 3 weeks over
Christmas (rare). Drove her to Love Field 0500 Sunday morning
for the SWA flight back - maybe Smokey flew her back to Oakland.
The highlights of the break were time with her, of course, but also
watching her learn to drive the zero turn mower in the driveway, and
flying the drone. Took her for an hour RV flight and got a
couple of waves from her in the driveway as I flew over once or
twice. That's her birthday and initials in the N-number.
The first pass over the house lets her know she has about 30 seconds
to get outside before the second. Rockin those wings...
I gave her a kitchen knife set and Texas-shaped cutting board for
During the break she sent me the link
a newly published paper entitled "Activity-based sensing fluorescent
probes for iron in biological systems." She did the
illustration on page one. It'll be free online for 50 days and
then you have to pay to read the paper.
Advertisers and donations here helped pay for the laptop and undergrad
education that went into the skill set needed to produce that illustration. I thought you might
appreciate some of the fruits of your kindness....science that will
hopefully make the world better.
I hope you had a nice RV weekend and have a swell RV Monday.
Brantel: Running Bad@ss ...and RV-7 builder/pilot ;^)
I did it! Again! 48.6 miles in the bag!
A Steer, A Tandem Bike, Mountain Bikes: What have you hauled in your
I saw another thread recently that
talked about how great a bearhawk is at hauling
things. I don't think many people realize how much
you can get in an RV-10. It's got the largest, most
comfortable rear seats of any piston single I've
been in. That includes a several aircraft noted for
their interior volume including a C-182, Trinidad,
and Piper Lance. The Lance of course had more total
volume, you just had to choose between legroom or
shoulder room as a passenger.
Ultimately, the 10 is so useful, so fast, and still
so much fun to fly I barely miss the 8. Yes, I do
miss aerobatics, and the 8 is a much better
formation platform. That said the 10 is surprisingly
capable of formation at least up to the FFI limits.
I'll start: I've hauled my family of 4 and a week's
camping gear including a huge tent to Oshkosh. I've
carried the (frozen and edible parts) of what was
once a 1200lb steer, our new tandem bike, and two
full size mountain bikes. I'm curious to see what
others have done.
J_Turner Status Report ...RV-7
Today I wanted to get the wingtips in place and
drilled to the wings. I only got the right one
drilled to #40 but it is straight! To start I made
an aileron center jig and clamped the aileron to it.
Then I had to cut some material off the bellcrank
jig to allow it to clear the Garmin AP servo brace.
Once those were in place I adjusted the pushrod
length and tightened it down. Next I clamped the
bell crank jig to the bolt that holds the pushrod so
I could get the wingtip aligned.
Cold Wx Flying ...terry.mortimor
Hi gang, with a certain Texan recently
complaining about a little cold weather while flying
I just had to post a few pictures of some real cold
weather flying in my neck of the woods
300 Hours: Then and now ...Bob Collins
I hit 299.6 hours this morning in
the RV-12iS project. It's been almost a year to the
day since I took delivery of the first kit. In the
first year, there was a lot of waiting around. I
didn't realize how quickly the emp kit went together
so I had 12 weeks to cool my jets before the wings
arrived. I knocked those off in six weeks but by
then the 12iS has been announced so I chose to delay
delivery of the fuselage kit to get the redesign.
I'm continually amazed by how quickly this has gone
together, even with the stuck-in-traffic pace.
I looked up my RV-7A build and was surprised to see
that 300 hours if about a year's work on that
project too. That makes sense. My routine is roughly
the same: About 1-1.5 hours of work after work, and
a few hours each weekend day.
Pondering if thermal expansion can break a canopy
"...Assuming a canopy built
to plans we have the following numbers:
A #40 drill through the steel rail. (0.098")
A #27 drill through the canopy. (0.144")
12 " between fasteners. (Lo in the equations)
The thermal expansion Ct for steel is approximately
The thermal expansion Ct for acrylic is
approximately 0.000417 in/inR
I'm going to take a lot of liberties with my
assumptions from here on (feel free to shoot me
Lets say we go flying at -5 degF outside. Lets also
say that our cockpit/sun heater is able to bring the
interior of the cockpit up to 32 degF for a deltaT
of 37 degF as we fly around.
The expansion of a material dl = Ct * deltaT * Lo
The steel will expand by: 0.03552 inches between
The acrylic will expand by: 0.1851 inches.
Yikes. But wait, we have some slop in the holes of
0.046 inches (#27 - #40)..."
A thank you
video...AX-O RV-4 Fastback
I made a video to say thank you to some of the folks
that have supported our team at Reno and during
airshows in various ways. It has pics and footage
recorded over the past 2 years. This video took for
EVER to edit. Hope you enjoy it.
January 5, 2018. Issue
A milestone of sorts is shaping up for the weekend possibly - the
1,000,000th VAF Forums post.
Thanks again as always for goofing off at work ;^), and for being a
part of the online RV collective. Humbled and honored to call
so many of you friend.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend!
G-RMPS Inflight Photo ...Scotland
Fort Bragg CA, weekend get-a-way ...joe_rainbolt
A wine tasting, beer sampling, Christmas Parade
watching, overniter to California's North Coast.
J_Turner Status Report
Today was fun, I match drilled approx. 302 holes
in the right lower wing skin. Deburred about 1100
holes, dimpled around 500 holes and set about 30
rivets. I think I'd rather be doing fiberglass work
but hopefully tomorrow I can finish the skin and
start on fitting the wingtips. Oh yeah, I also made
one extra hole while dimpling. I didn't get too
upset, just but on some flat dies and squashed it
10 miles out at 5K I watched a launch out of the
coastal fog then disappear through a high layer. A
clear sky would have given a better result but in
the end, hearing my engine drone on instead of
hearing and feeling the energy of the launch made it
less exciting than being on the ground near the
See the Launch Schedule
A good source to keep up with the launches
including launch schedule changes is:
(Yes, even us gov'mint types cross reference the
civilian web sites to keep up with what's going
RE: Mountain Bikes in RV-14 Cargo Area ...Jared RV-14A
The RV-14's baggage space is large. With that
being said I believe the challenge may be getting
the bike's frame between the seat back cross-member
and the roll bar. You'd probably have to turn the
frame on it side to pass through and then rotate it
back to right side up. Not sure if you'd have to
remove the fork as well. I doubt you'd be able to
get a second bike back there, due to the
manipulation required as described above. Possibly
if you remove the fork/handle bars. Probably one of
those things you'd have to try. Like others have
eluded too, if you plan to transport a mountain bike
regularly, the wear and tear level on your plane may
Jared's YouTube channel
Alton Bay (B18) PIREP
As of Wednesday (ahead of the storm hitting the
east coast) Alton Bay reported ice ranging between
9” and 10.5”. Still not the 12” minimum everywhere
but getting closer.
BTW: if you use Facebook, you can catch their
updates including video posts.
Frank Jackson RE: Sticking Exhaust Valve
Wish I had read this sooner.
I should have looked at this sooner. Yesterday the
#2 exhaust valve on my Lycoming IO360 stuck
completely and bent the pushrod. Fortunately I was
in the pattern at a nearby airport and immediately
landed. It's now at the FBO at the same field
getting a rebuilt cylinder. It had been running
rough at idle and low power settings but smoothed
out at runup power and higher. The engine had only
380 hours on it. I'll be doing a wobble test on the
January 4, 2018. Issue
Stuck in Lake Havasu, bad electric ignition
Please check thread to see if/when problem
is solved. Mike may chime in after publish
time with more info (don't want to swamp his
Pushrod Boot Pattern
Aileron Push Rod Boots...Sam
Here are notes and photos of boots
being constructed using the above drawing from Fred:
Mine have been flying in the RV-6 for nearly 18
years and continue to work as designed.
RV Friend Brantel's 2nd 'Dopey Challenge at Disney World'...wishing
Fellow RV friends,
Just wanted to give you an update on my battle to
stay healthy enough to keep enjoying my RV7 (and
most of all be around to love, support and enjoy my
family). As many of you know I started taking this
battle seriously about 4 years ago.
While I have had a few setbacks, I am proud to say
that tomorrow I will attempt to complete my second
Dopey Challenge at Disney World. It is a 4 day
progressive 48.6 mile road race. 5k, 10k, half
marathon, full marathon.
For me running has been the best way for me to
maintain my RV performance enhancing weight loss and
for me to keep my known coronary artery disease in
I had an interesting experience
regarding this topic with my RV-7. You can read it
on the Twin Cities RV Builders website:
RV-8 Builder For Sale ...Dan helping a friend's family
Guys: I have volunteered to help sell a deceased
friend's RV-8 fastback build. The Kit # is 80406
initially bought July 25 1997, he was the third or
fourth owner. This kit is well past the quick build
The kit includes Dynon D-100 and D-120,True Track
ADI PilotI/II Autopilot(2 servos mounted and
wired),GTX-327 txp, Garmin 496 mount, Flight Comm
403 mc, intercom, hobbs meter, stby airspeed,
altimeter, 12 Circuit Breakers, Split Master, 5
switches, and spare blank instrument panel.
Wings, tail feathers, flaps, and ailerons are
finished. Fastback kit is 1/2 finished, pull out
handle option is finished, finish and firewall
forward kit, engine control cables with throttle
quadrant, military front stick grip, snorkle, baffle
kit, prop spinner kit, Vetterman exhaust NIB, oil
cooler, Van's 60 amp alternator, Hooker harnesses,
complete set of hand tools, all hardware, heated
pitot, 2 canopies, 1-tinted, 1-clear, 121.5 ELT,
aileron and elevator electric trim, and landing,
strobes, and position light, all included.
I have pictures and will post them on a site or can
send on request. The price is $44,500. Not willing
to sell pieces, all or nothing. Buyer arranges
shipping. Dan from Reno
My photos from the Lake Havasu gathering
I put my photos here.
Had a great flight out and back and the food was
very good. Wish I could have had a beer (or two).
RV-9A N5771H flown over 500 hours!
Cutting Subpanel for Garmin 430
Your photos are helpful. I went ahead and cut the
hole. Photo at link. Seems ok. Van's told me to
reinforce as necessary. Now I need to figure out
where to route the cables back behind the subpanel
so they can plug into VPX.
Working on Wiring
Back to Basics | January/February 2018
January 3, 2018 0001Z. Issue
So Tuesday morning only one aviator on the field was
enough willing to go up for a flight in the 23*F morning
air via RV-6, and that idiot person was me (note
one hangar door open).
I know, I know…I’m a wuss from TX and people up north take saunas in 23*F
I should have worn long underwear (and where is mine?), I need to stuff
some foam into the NACA ducts to keep the leaking air around the
closed vents from bleeding in, and heated motorcycle gloves that
plug into 12V are seeming more and more attractive. Other than the
14 minutes it took to get my oil to 100*F, it was a pretty nice
flight. The wing sure liked that dense air. Hadn't flown in
five days...felt good to get off the surface for some alumitherapy
slash mental re-calibration.
And I need to tape off some of my oil cooler. We really just don’t get
that much insanely cold air down here.
It's forecast to be above freezing today for the first time in 80 hours,
so we're pumped. That
fountain ice near the airport is gonna melt.
New Years Flights
Very cold here, +9F this morning
and got up to +17F in the afternoon but had good
sunshine and basically no wind. I couldn't stand it
and had to go flying, went goofing off with a buddy
and shot some touch and goes, just burning fuel.
Interestingly, we have quite the strong temperature
inversion parked over west Texas right now, at 5000'
it was 12F outside and at 8000' it was 41F.
Altimeter was the highest I've seen it, at 30.56
this afternoon, by setting to my known private home
Bob Mills photo.
Regarding Buldged Control Surfaces
For anyone else interested, there is potential
for this to have a negative impact on handle if it
exists on other control surfaces as well....
A bulged control surface will make it act as if it
were narrower in cord. That will reduce the
aerodynamic feedback... I.E. make the control forces
lighter (possibly to a degree that impacts control
It can also impact static stability. If the
aerodynamic feedback force of the control circuit is
lower than desirable, it has a lower working force
against any friction within the system.
A small bit of turbulence or an occupant bumping the
stick might induce a small movement of the system
that doesn't return to the same position each time
because the system feedback is too low to overcome
the system friction.
BTW, this is also why friction in the pitch circuit
is such a bad thing. Even if the elevators have the
proper shape they won't re-center the same each time
they are displaced if the friction is too high.
A mis-shaped rudder can also have a negative effect
by reducing centering tenancy (once again hinging
friction being a bad thing) and making the airplane
appear to have reduced yaw stability.
Maintenance Tracking Board
another thread (which was in danger of being
hijacked), I was asked by Plummit about my
maintenance tracking board:
Questions, with answers:
Did you apply the divider lines? How?
Answer: I applied the divider lines using line tape
from Office Depot.
Where did you get the board?
Answer: Office Depot.
Bonus info: The Event and Interval text is applied
using permanent marker (although alcohol will wipe
that text easily). The Last Completed and Text Due
info is done in normal white-erase marker.
One RV-10 Coming up...Soon...ish?! ...new guy checks in
I'm excited to announce, I have finally decided
to build an RV-10. Ordered a kit and built a EAA
Work Table (modified to my needs). Tail-kit should
be arriving tomorrow (DFW).
I started with a RV-7 and later decide to buy a
RV-6. I have flow a bit more than a couple of
hundred hours in an RV-6 now and I feel a RV-10 fits
my needs better. One of the main reasons for me to
decide to build an RV-10 is the VAF Community. Big
Thanks to Gary Sobek who helped me fly the RV-6 from
San Diego to NJ. I learnt so much from him on that
trip, great guy, I can't thank him enough. All I had
was 60 Hours of Cessna 172 and 10hours of RV-6
(transition and tailwheel time) so it was quite a
jump. Flying along with Vlad for a while, a couple
of years ago has helped me immensely to change from
a Mission Based Mindset(Flight school) to a Fun
I assessed my situation and the biggest roadblock I
have is time. I travel for work Sunday Night -
Thursday (Currently to Montreal). I also have a
couple more hobbies other than flying(Motorcycle
Track Days, Rock Climbing, etc) so it is going to be
challenging. Since I'm already flying, this project
is not critical, albeit very significant. It will be
an interesting journey working on it and finishing
I'm looking forward to connect with other RV
builders in the DFW. Email me and I would love to
get in touch.
Happy New Year to all!
RV-6 - Red Phoenix (N111BN)
RV-10 - Tail Kit Started
Feb'18 Issue of Kitplanes
...has a nice article about an RV flight over
both poles. "Have you ever wanted to fly
around the world? Just imagine the organizational
nightmare of it: You would need to book dozens of
flights and land in many foreign countries, each
with its own language, laws, rules, customs, and
regulations. Add to that the dreaded idea of
extended traveling with strangers to stranger lands.
And after all is said and done, it still could not
be said that you actually “flew all around the
world,” because in all likelihood you did not fly
over the North Pole, not to mention flying over the
What does over dimpling look like?
I’ve completed the dimpling on my Empennage
skins, I don’t have pictures yet because I can’t
seem to capture what I’m seeing. Does anyone have
pictures that I can compare to my skins?
I use a C-frame, the dimples look crisp, there is no
pillowing around the dimple from what I understand
that to be. Looking directly above each dimple there
is no distortion, however looking down the rivet
line with the skin at eye level, you can see ripples
along the rivet line. Only when when light hits it
at the right angle. Did I over dimple the skins
causing distortion in the metal along the rivet
What I Love About This Place
...people like this.
Job Opening at Garmin
Sales Manager Experimental Aircraft and LSA
As a leading worldwide provider of navigation
devices and wearable technology, our focus is on
developing, designing and supporting superior
products. Our advanced technology promotes
performance, safety and ease of use in every market
we serve. That makes us an engineering and
technology company with a keen focus on recruiting
talent in those fields. But the same vertical
integration business model that keeps all design and
manufacturing processes in-house also gives us the
incentive to hire top performers from different
backgrounds, including operations, finance and
accounting, information technology, sales, marketing
We are looking for a full time Sales Manager,
Experimental Aircraft and LSA Markets for our
headquarters in Olathe, Kansas. This position is
primarily responsible for all sales activity within
the Experimental Aircraft and Light Sport Aircraft (LSA)
market segments and will focus on facilitating
Garmin’s growth in this expanding market segment,
offer superior support to Garmin dealers and
end-customers and identify and cultivate sales
channels to maximize revenue.
In this role, you’ll also be responsible for these
•Develop and execute sales strategies which maximize
sales growth and market share in Experimental
Aircraft and LSA market segments
•Participate in public forums such as Van’s Air
Force as a knowledgeable product expert and member
of Garmin’s “Team X”
•Be immersed in the market to understand LSA
manufacturer, dealer and end-user needs, evaluate
and communicate competitive landscape, specify
market requirements and identify innovative
solutions for success
•Assist end-users with purchase decisions and basic
avionics installation considerations
•Serve as technical and operational resource to
customers who have Garmin Avionics for their
Experimental and LSA aircraft
•Aggressively promote all non-certified and
certified products as applicable within this market
•Aggressively promote the display of Garmin products
in this segment at select trade shows
•Coordinate, schedule and present seminars and
webinars focused on Experimental Aircraft and
relevant product offerings, hosted by Garmin
•Coordinate strategic LSA and/or OEM market-specific
initiatives with all sales managers globally
•Build long-lasting relationships with key industry
•Identify specific product line and feature growth
opportunities and develop analysis for the company’s
•Develop and harmonize product line presentations
and marketing communications to this market segment
•Coordinate with the industrial design team to
develop or update kiosks used at major tradeshows
•Contribute content and work with others to manage
the experimental avionics portion of the website and
social media marketing
•Through complete understanding of the competitive
landscape, recommend product pricing for new and
•Responsible for the creating and/or updating 1-year
rolling forecast (on a monthly basis) for these
•Review and contribute to the 5-year strategic
forecast on a quarterly basis
•Provide diligent follow-up to dealers, customers
and internal requirements, regardless of travel
Other responsibilities include collaborating with
Marketing Communications to deliver creative and
high impact printed collateral, video media, website
content and product launches. Additionally
developing marketing strategies which increase
aviation product exposure and sales with Aviation
Dealers via their print, digital, web and tradeshow
A Bachelors Degree from an accredited four year
college or university AND a minimum of 2 years
experience in Avionics Sales or a position
substantially similar to the essential functions of
this job description are required for this role.
Qualified candidates for this role will possess the
following education, experience and skills:
•Demonstrated experience as an Experimental Aircraft
Builder including avionics installations
•Active private pilot
•Demonstrated proficient technical understanding of
the avionics competitive landscape, products and
•Proven track record executing sales and marketing
projects and programs
•Must be team-oriented, possess a positive attitude,
work well with others and possess a strong passion
for customer satisfaction
•Must be detail-oriented and have the ability to
work proactively and effectively with minimal
•Ability to prioritize and multi-task in a flexible,
fast paced and challenging environment
•Demonstrated strong and effective verbal, written,
and interpersonal communication skills
•Proven ability to interact with diverse teams from
various internal and external organizations
Job Sales & Marketing
Organization Aviation Business
Job Class Exempt
January 2, 2018 0004Z. Issue
Something we don't see too
often in DFW (ice). Photo taken 1/1/18 near 52F (33.059896,
-97.215713) by Randy Richmond. It should stick around
another day, before it gets above freezing on Wednesday.
Live Chill Map
New Guy Checks In ...SpeedyMedina
Hi Guys!!! Happy new year!!! I'm
actually working on an RV-9A! Im trying to have it
ready to Sun n Fun, Maria hurricane delay me a lot
but still working on it!!
here some Pictures!
Need More Heat!
Happy New Year Everyone,
Flew the RV6A today in this 16 degree weather. To
call the heat system inadequate is an
understatement. I have a Vetterman exhaust with one
heat muff, no mufflers, coming into the cabin in the
toe area. Is there anything I can go to get some
more heat into the cabin? I'm thinking add another
muff to the other side and wrap them with an exhaust
heat wrap. What is everyone else in cold climates
using for cabin heat?
RV inverted spin no fear
Having done hundreds of inverted
spins in my RV4 since it's in my free style for
competition for the last three years, I can offer
some advice. It takes specific inputs, attitude, and
timing to make an RV spin inverted as other RV
competitors will concur. I received advanced
instruction in an Extra 300 before I tried it.
Here's a video of a botched hammerhead that starts a
tail slide and possible inverted spin at the 1
minute point, but it never gets to the rotation
The error with this hammer head
was dragging the right wing, kicking left rudder too
late which wasn't effective in rotating the nose
Be careful and hope to see y'all in the box this
lower AL (roll tide)
-8 acro vid ...ronschreck
There's a half snap at 1:10 and a quarter rolling
circle at 3:05.
Canopy fairing fiberglass
Can I do the fuel tanks again?
Fiberglass sanding is tough work! When is says don’t
worry if the glass overlaps the forward edge the
work needed to sand it away isn’t mentioned.
The front center is looking pretty good.
On the left side I attached a pic. Getting the
overlap off on the front sacrificed some of piece A.
There is also metal showing on the aft edge. You
can’t see it but there is a bit of a swale
depression between the two.
I was going to lay in another piece of glass cut to
size to cover this metal and lay it over some small
strips in the depression.
On the other side that little corner where the
window meets the aft structure looks a lot better
but a little bit of the tip of the metal at that
corner shows. How critical is that? Should I keep
glassing it until I get a edge of glass to the top
of the metal? Or will the final epoxy and primer
cure my worry?
Getting ready to order some wings! (slow build) ...SeanM RV-10
I just about have the RV10 emp kit
finished up. I'm just waiting on some composite
materials to arrive. In the meantime my mind has now
turned to the wings. I need to get things in order
before I place my order.
Vans Wing kit options-
1. Landing lights- I will probably go with the
sunspot LED landing light kit that vans supplies
2. Aileron trim- Will be doing this. "operates
independently from autopilot". If I want an AP
system does this mean I'll need different servos for
that too? At what point do I need to start thinking
about an AP system?
3. Float fuel sending units- Will be going this
Things I'm starting to look into:
1. Wing and tail position/strobes.
2. Pitot (will probably upgrade to something heated)
3. Stall horn (is this included in the wing kit?)
5. Would like to do a Garmin IFR type setup /w AP,
but I need to research this more. should I be
looking into this now as well?
When is the right time to get some wiring/crimping
tools? Now? Or are they not needed until mid-way
through the wings? (I'll probably splurge on the
steinair master kit).
Is that a good list? Is there anything else that I
should be researching right now?
January 1, 2018. Issue
January Wallpaper Calendar Online
Ed Hicks photo.
Mothership Closed Today
"We will be closed on Monday January 1, 2018 For
New Year's holiday.
Phone, Fax, e-mail and Web Orders placed after 12PM
noon (Pacific Time) on Friday, December 29th 2017
will be processed on Tuesday January 2, 2018."
Last flight for 2017 - cold day in Maine ...and video!
My last flight for 2017, cold day in Belfast. -17c
and -23c @ 3000 ft. Got the chance to get close to 40 min of flight
time searching for warm air, but no luck (just cold).
I installed the Bender mod and have an in-flight adjustable oil
cooler shutter. I was able to keep the oil temps up to 215 to 220
not too bad with some warm air from the heater.
Unknown Black Box - What is it?
I'm helping a friend who purchased an RV8 that has
no known electrical documentation. The original builder is deceased.
I came across this small black box that has 4 wires and surgical
tubing attached. It has no markings on the visible surfaces. I have
not yet tried to trace the wiring and where the tubing ends up is
If you happen to know what is it let me know.
Thanks in advance.
My landing gear needs some suggestions, quick!
A few weeks ago my left tire went flat on rollout.
I bought new tires and tubes which I installed today. My gear has
been shaky and I thought the new rubber may help. I previously
reviewed the wheel/axel alignment and it looked ok.
Today after the tires were installed I started to check things and
found I could move the left gear by hand back and forth a few
degrees. I looked up and saw the gear/engine mount bolt moving. I
removed the bolt and found this. (yes, JB Weld was involved)
Alton Bay (B18) PIREP ...Glen
There is a hard cold snap gripping the Eastern
United States which isn’t much fun unless you are trying to make ice
Just a week ago Alton Bay was reporting open water but today they
are watching significant ice developing!
”Good Saturday Morning! It’s over cast and 3 degrees below 0 in
Alton Bay. I checked the ice we have approximately 71/2” to 8” in
the bay it’s coming along!!”
They need a minimum of 12” everywhere - runway, taxiway, parking,
access routes, and snow removal & equipment areas - before they can
open. Then also need to be able to keep everything plowed.
Waiting for Spring
Hangar Lighting - The importance of Color Rendering
Hangar Lighting is a common topic discussed
here and a very important one for anyone building an airplane
indoors. There are many factors that go into a quality
lighting design but one often overlooked is Color Rendering. CRI,
Color Rendering Index, is a number from 0-100, 100 being the most
true representation of all colors as viewed with the human eye.
Traditional older lighting sources still commonly found in our
hangars are T12 Fluorescent and Metal Halide. Both of these sources
have very poor Color Rendering, usually 60 CRI or worse. Other newer
sources like T5 or T8 Fluorescent, or LED typically will have better
Here is an example. The top pic is 400W MH, the bottom LED. The MH I
would estimate at 60 CRI or lower as they degrade with age, the LED
is 70 CRI.
DIY SS Firewall Penetration Kit: $7.85 ...9GT
RV-14 Build Status Report Video ...control.
3D Printing Speed Mods Update
Scott Black's Panel is Cut