June 30, 2020. Issue #5,118.
contract pilot side work)
First Flight N144SD ...bobhope2505 RV-14A
3D Model of RV-6 in Solidworks ...DeeCee_57 post
2,300 Hour Report ...petehowell -9A
Not much has changed at 2300 hours. She is still
- Filter and screen had some carbon chunks,
- Compression #'s were 77-76-77-78 with a warm
engine. Valves looked pretty good!
- As mentioned previously - We are going to
continue to run and watch her carefully.
- Titan O-320/Carb/EI/Mostly Mogas/Lots of LOP
Valve Porn - the cheapo camera was not super
sharp this time, but did the trick
Love my big screens ...Greenley
Saturday evening I flew from SW MI to SW TN to
pick up a sister-in-law and niece to help prepare
for a family wedding. It was an IFR flight and I was
so thankful for the big beautiful screens. I have
never made so many diversions for weather during a
flight. While I do count on ATC to help with current
weather conditions, even with the delays ADSB helps
to much with having a picture of what is happening.
With the combination I was able to stay well clear
of trouble spots. The direct flight home however did
have a detour almost to St Louis, added 200 nm to
the trip of normally 450 nm. Would not have been
able to do this with my 172. Here a few pics I
snapped during the flight.
Finishing Kit, Canopy Part 1A ...PilotjohnS 9A
So I have been working on the fitting the canopy
frame, the first step on the canopy tasks. I had
taken a month off to do yard work and whatever else
I could find to avoid the canopy stuff. Finally I
decided it needed to get done while the weather was
The canopy frame was fairly close to perfect from
the factory. I had to tweak 6 spots in the front
hoop. I have a little more to go in the back hoop.
But the back hoop requires less force and is already
I took the advice of others and will cut the canopy
front tubes, and will put the canopy track on after
the frame is bent. I found it was much easier to do
this without the tracks being on; I just used a wood
space under the front tubes to raise the canopy
frame up to about the right spot.
Here is how I bent the front hoop use a 3/4" conduit
bender from the precision tool isle at Lowe's:
Clunking Canopy when Closing ...design4p video
I have a clunking sound when the canopy is being
closed. There is no connection with the rear of the
canopy and the only connection at the point of clunk
is the 2 hinges.
Please view a YouTube movie of the clunk.
It would appear that the hinge connected to the
bulkhead jerks at the point of clunk.
Any suggests of a remedy would be most welcome.
Compression tests-hot vs cold? ...Aviaman
I had what seems a counter intuitive result. I
got compression readings that were slightly higher
measured cold, than when measured hot. It wasn't a
big difference, something like 72,73,73,73 hot vs.
76,77,77,77 cold. It seems when hot, the clearances
and fit would be tighter, causing compressions to be
higher. Any ideas?
June 29, 2020. Issue #5,117.
The SAL kept a
lot of RVators on the ground over the weekend around N. Texas,
including me. Lotsa haze Saturday - crazy wind Sunday. It's been one week since VAF's data moved to the cloud - hoping you are
both seeing and
enjoying faster response times and a more stable environment.
Thank VAF user 'bkervaski' for this - his brain made it happen
More improvements coming...this week.
I really liked today's 'OT'. If you're not a fan of 70's classic
rock, you may need to click on the 'explain' link.
Hope the Wx was better in your neck of the woods this weekend, and have a
really nice Monday.
contract pilot side work)
Milestone ...msmst25 (and son)
RV-10 HS Complete.
Status Report ...jcarne -7A
Okay, finally have time to make an update! I have been
going strong in the garage lately! Okay, I did take two days
off because I was out of town but still...
I spent a day or so working on tidying things up and
connecting things firewall forward. I also found a minor
mistake but more on that in a minute. In this next pic I am
pretty positive I am going to relocate that MAP sensor as it
is currently slightly below the port. Probably wouldn't be
an issue but I want the hose to always drain back into the
Options ...David Paule -3B
I know that it is sometimes said that "anybody" can build an RV, but really ..
can I? ...Lemos
Hi all. First time poster, long time reader. Finally
mustered up the courage to register and post.
So I have had a dream of building an airplane for a long
time. 20+ years. But I must admit, I have nearly no
mechanical skills. I can do an oil change on my car or
motorcycle. I can change the air filter on them too. But
that is simple stuff.
Can I really build an airplane? Nobody online can give me an
answer to that of course, but is there a baseline mechanical
ability that one must have to assemble an RV14 kit? Can I
learn as I go? Are other builders willing to come to my
workshop to help?
Folks on here make this look easy, and talk like assembling
the RV14 kit is nothing but matching parts and riveting them
together. It can't be that easy.
I do not want to start a project that I will not finish. I
can commit to 5 hours per day 5 days per week. I have the
time to do this. I marginally have the money to do it. But,
is it normal for me to sit here and wonder if I can do it,
skill wise? Is it normal for me to fear assembling the
airplane wrong and having it be junk and need to be
I guess what I am concerned about is my own ability. If I
believe I can do it, can I? Certainly I cannot be alone.
Oh, and if anyone has an RV-14 or RV-14A they want to sell
to someone unsure of their own abilities, shoot me a
message. In full or San Diego Area partnership.
New First Flights
...added to the mothership first flights page.
Layout Input ...RV7ForMe
Misfit Canopy ...goatflieg
When initially fitting my canopy to the frame and fuselage, it looked
like I would have problems fitting the canopy to the aft end of the canopy
frame. Terry Lutz and Carl Franz were helping me with the fitting; I pointed
out the large gaps between the aft canopy and the frame on both sides. They
advised me to get the fit correct at the front and on the hoops, get the Big
Cut done and see where I was at. I also called Van's Builder Support prior
to the Big Cut to discuss both the Big Cut and the large gaps. I don't
remember who I spoke with, but he was an experienced RV-8 builder. His
suggestion was that after the Big Cut was done, I should start clamping the
canopy to the frame at the front and work toward the back, clamping as I
went, and see how it well it would pull together. Today I began the process,
making sure the bottom edge of the canopy would fit around the vertical
tubes of the canopy frame skirt. After setting three clamps on each side, it
wasn't looking good at all.
data for efficient cross country ...Carl Froehlich
Some flight data for you guys that like such stuff.
Just ~1 hour to go for the 40 hour test period. Yesterday was the high
altitude data run (up to 17.5K'). As part of this run I wanted some raw data
to develop cross country cruise setting. At first blush it looks like
~14.5K' is where, for the same speed, efficiency starts to fall off.
For these typical high speed cruise settings I got 27.3MPG at 14.5K', then
slowly dropping off to 26.5MPG at 17.5K'.
I'm sure I could enhance the MPG numbers at slower speeds, but shoot fire,
we fly RVs!
14.5K' screen shot attached.
Status Report ...David Paule -3B
The inner flange has been removed, marked and trimmed is ready for prep
for the bond.
In the meantime, I thought that you might be interested in the maintenance
manual that I've been preparing. When I come across something that seems
like it's worth remembering for future maintenance, I've been jotting it
down, along with photos. At first it was all in one manual but the
organization got unwieldy, so I separated it into chapters. At the time, I
was using the Mac software Pages. More recently I changed to the free
open-source Office-like package, Libre Office, which I like a lot. Hence the
RV-3B G-HILI's Panel
Here's a photo of the panel on Andy's RV-3B. I'm posting
it with his permission.
Flying in Brazil ...Potato video
Flying my RV 7, he was born in the USA and came
to live in brazil.
June 26, 2020. Issue #5,116.
Had the pleasure of hanging out with
visiting-the-area pilots Simon and Cameron Thursday out at the
airport for a few minutes. Both interested in RVs (one
wants to buy, one to build). Planes and projects looked
over, RV-6/7A/8/8A seats sat in and -4 eyeballed. Really
nice guys - the RV hook seems to have been set pretty good I
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend, and thanks to
Simon and Cameron for the visit.
contract pilot side work)
Good Piece of Text To Read
Last action before advancing the throttle should
be a control check. During the 1950's there
was a gentleman who took his lady friend on a flight
in a tandem aircraft. As they took off his controls
were jammed and they stalled and crashed with an
ensuing fire. Both occupants survived a short while
before succumbing that day. The cause of the
accident is the lady had worn high heels for the
date. While getting into the aircraft unbeknownst to
either person the very bottom of her high heel came
off leaving the little nail protruding from her
heel. As she sat down, the nail penetrated the
flooring and pinned the control cable in one spot.
That resulted in the loss of control on takeoff
unfortunately. Crazy things did and can happen. I
suggest the last thing you do before slipping the
surly bonds is a complete control check just prior
to advancing the throttle. Be safe out there!
[ed. The last 'C' in my
GIFTSTPCCBBC mnemonic stands for 'Controls
Free/Correct'. Couldn't agree more with the
last couple of sentences in the above. dr]
Panel Layout Review / Comments ...oren_rokach pic/vid
Dimple Dies ...Jarrett
Hello all! Just finished my vertical stabilizer
last week and I am now moving forward with both the
rudder and horizontal stabilizer. Today I was
looking over my vertical stabilizer and I noticed
that there was a very small gap between the
manufactured heads and the dimpled portion of the
skin denoted by the slight shadow under the heads.
My first thought was that the manufactured head
was not perfectly flush with the skin (maybe a
riveting mistake), so I put the flat end of a ruler
over top of the rivets and saw that the rivets were
indeed flush. I then took a look at my practice
project and realized that these rivets did not have
this same shadow under the rivets. This is when I
realized that on the practice project I used Brown
dimple dies and on my V-Stab I used Cleaveland dies.
I then went ahead and did a controlled test. I took
a piece of scrap and dimpled two #40 holes using
Notice how with the die on the left there is the
slight gap, and on the right there is none, which is
what I had suspected. I have had a great experience
with both companies, so I'm not trying to start any
wars Is this gap normal for those that have used the
Cleaveland Dies? Once the plane is painted these
gaps won't be visible so it's not the end of the
world, but as I am ready to dimple the rudder skins
I want to know if I should change back to the other
dies, or be worried at all? Thanks!
A Really Good Time Lapse RV-8 Wing Build Video
[ed. And some great
advice about motion sensors on cameras by bkervaski
in a previous reply. v/r,dr]
"if you do use a motion trigger, don't
forget to take out the bits where you come down in
the middle of the night butt-*** naked to turn off
the compressor, the FSDO wasn't amused"
Rib Flange Faceting ...RV701775
I am struggling with how to shape-deburr the nose
of the rib flanges. Even if I remove only a little
bit to shape the nose section, the rib radius
becomes very thin. How do others accomplish this?
Buchanan's Manual to Electric Flap Conversion ...RV-6
"Here are the notes from my manual to electric
conversion on the RV-6. As far as difficulty goes,
it is a straight-forward conversion for an RV
builder. A non-builder, however, probably will not
have the riveting tools and skills needed for the
June 25, 2020. Issue #5,115.
Matt Hood (-6) pic Wednesday at 52F. Always
contract pilot side work)
Sometimes, you just have to sit back and enjoy the hilarity...N546RV
So for several work sessions, over the past couple weeks,
I've been agonizing over my pitot tube position. Inboard of
the bellcrank? Just outboard? Further outboard? Out at the
I spent literal hours clamping the mast here and there,
envisioning line routing, thinking of what I'd need to
fabricate to secure things, considering what it'd be like to
have to remove the pitot down the road for maintenance, etc
etc etc. I even went so far as to test how the hard lines
heated up to get an idea of how much I might be able to trim
After all of this, I finally settled. It was going to go one
bay out from the bellcrank, against the outboard rib. So
tonight was the night to make the cut and commit. Despite my
agonizing, I was comfortable with my choice and didn't
second-guess myself at all. It didn't even feel that odd
making a hole in the skin.
Maybe it should have felt odd, because I put the hole in the
wrong *** place, one bay outboard from my intended location.
I'm not even upset about it, just thoroughly amused at the
irony of it all. This location is perfectly workable, I'll
just need to lengthen the wiring harness between the tube
and heat controller a bit.
Maybe that's the funniest part, how completely at peace I am
with it not being in my carefully-chosen location. Almost
Just gotta build on...
RV Weekend ...odens_14
Took the two year old for his first "$100 hamburger" at
wings cafe @ BRD. It was his first solo flight with dad; he
had to catch some ZZZs on the way home with his full belly.
not a bad way to spend father's day afternoon!
of an era ...rongawer
I've done so many VOR approaches into Palo Alto over the
years, I took a moment to reflect on the change when I got
the notice from the FAA aerochart folks saying the approach
would be cancelled effective 8/13/2020.
It's always been my "quick turn in" compared to the longer
route needed for the RNAV. Not really impactful in the big
scheme of things, but sad to see it go. Kind of reminds me
of when I removed the ADF unit from my Baron and no longer
did NDB approaches.
Change may be good, but it's still change. Kind of like my
old coffee cup, the VOR was a faithful servant. RIP.
Extinguisher Deployment Test Video ...goatflieg
Since the location of the fire extinguisher in an RV-8
can be tricky, I thought I'd share my experience in deciding
how and where to install mine, and determining how well it
will work. Enjoy... and read the disclaimers in the
Flight for lunch in Big Bear (L35) ...SPX
This afternoon, I flew over to Big Bear (L35) and grabbed
lunch. In case anyone is looking for a place to go eat lunch
in the SoCal area, Big Bear is a good option.
The restaurant at the airport, Barnstorm, is open, and is
practicing social distancing of guests, and the staff are
wearing masks, gloves, etc. They have a limited menu, but it
isn't too limited.
I've been in Big Bear twice in the last two weeks. It's
beautiful up there right now.
VAN'S AIRCRAFT RESPONSE TO CORONAVIRUS (COVID-19)
Updated: June 23rd, 2020
While certain businesses have been reopening for our local
access, Vans currently remains closed for any walk-ins,
tours and demos. You may place an order either on the phone
or online and ask for a will-call pick-up, in which case our
staff will make arrangements for no-contact pick-up.
We hope, of course, to be able to reopen again soon for
customers to come into the building. We appreciate your
understanding and patience in the meanwhile.
Much of our Oregon headquarters staff continues to
work-from-home in order to ensure we are best protecting our
team. We are taking orders, performing phone support,
building aircraft parts and shipping kits.
Because most of our business staff are now operating away
from the office, some functions may take a little longer
The following changes and limitations continue to be in
place while we work under limited in-house staffing:
- Will call orders for kits and parts are available
only on a limited, pre-arranged basis. Please order and
call ahead to arrange. Details are below.
- We cannot combine multiple orders - they will need
to be shipped as ordered, so please place your orders
- We cannot modify orders once they've received
(last-minute additions and deletions).
- Returns will be processed on a time-available basis
and may be delayed due to limited staffing.
We are doing our best to keep things running as close to
"normal" as possible, and the above operational limitations
help us facilitate that.
Thank you for your support and understanding. We appreciate
June 24, 2020. Issue #5,114.
My kick@ss Father's Day card from our budding
scientist daughter Audrey. She sent it air mail.
Very grateful to have this young lady in my life. On the
refridgerator hopefully for the next 40 years or so... ;^).
contract pilot side work)
My RV Weekend ...Av8safe
Installed my 4 FlyLED singles that I built up to replace
my existing halogen bulbs. I now have two landing and two
taxi lights that throw out some serious white lumens.
Looking forward to flight testing them and gaining night
currency for my 7. Easy project and great support from Paul
and the FlyLED team from down under!
Final Version of My Electrical System ...mfleming
Made some changes in the last 24 hours after getting
feedback and suggestions. Typos, changed the order of a couple of
items, formatted section titles in reverse-highlight,
relabeled 'HS Trim' to 'Elevator Trim', added 'Taxi'
Progress, and slowly getting there... Probably change
With the new 'Taxi' section including the line 'Transponder
ALT' (the new ADS-B changes require ALT while taxiing), the
'T' in GIFTSTPC2B2C
now stands for 'make sure XPNDR is in ALT'.
The whole mnemonic is now: Gas (verify L or R),
Instruments (Baro, HDG bug, Altitude level-off
set), Flaps (up), Trim (for T/O),
Strobes (OFF), Transponder (ALT), Pump
(OFF), Canopy Canopy (both latches
secure - RV6 tip up has two) Belt Belt
(both belts secure) Controls (free/correct).
12 seconds to say and point.
And in the last 18 years, I've started the engine in the
chocks, taken off with the pitot cover on, taken off with
one of the two canopy latches unlatched, and left the oil
door open (it pops up at rotation). Using this
checklist faithfully would have caught those. I'd like
to avoid doing these things again.
Probable Cause List Updated
708 reports going back ~40 years. Instructions on
how to pull up a report on the page.
Nuckolls Z-12 Basic Question....Reflex
After pouring through a significant number of wiring
diagrams on this site and looking though several others,
I've decided that staying as close as possible to Bob
Nuckolls Z-12 diagram would be best for me. Some of you have
a real knack for seeing things in a diagram that I just
don't. With this mind, I still have a question.
Below is the Z-12 wiring diagram from The AeroElectric
Connection. I have a couple of questions:
Why is there a Hall Effect sensor AND an amp meter on the
battery side of the secondary alternator?
If this is necessary, why isn't there both on the primary
See lower right side of the drawing below denoted by the red
June 23, 2020. Issue #5,113.
contract pilot side work)
Needed the red rag....
cap gets called up for bug duty.
So my #2 cylinder CHT will set off a shock
cooling alarm right from the start through the
flight. I was fairly certain it was the probe. It
would climb several degrees and come right back to
what I figured was normal.
I finally go around to swapping the #2 for #4 probes
and went for a flight. Much to my surprise the
problem did not follow the probe, issue the same on
I recently had morning sickness on this cylinder and
did the ream procedure, exhaust valve was definitely
stuck. I had to use a brass drift to get the thing
out. After the reaming, smooth as butter. I don't
think these two things are related, but maybe.
My only thought is that some sort of electronic
interference is causing the fluctuation. Maybe from
the plug wire. It the only thing I can think of that
would cause this. Today I had a couple of
fluctuations with more movement that before. At a
steady CHT of 377 I had a swing up to 399 which set
off the high CHT alarm.
So as anyone experienced anything similar? Mags are
good (Dual Pmags). Just flew today and did a LOP mag
check at 8500' and it was good.
I still need to download the data.
Previously this was an intermittent problem, it
would be there one flight then not the next, but
lately it is there all the time.
Thanks for any help.
Update on world's slowest RV-8 build ...N804RV
N804RV (Builder #80566) has finally achieved full
porcupine status. I'm a little disheartened
that now I have to take it all apart and start
deburring and dimpling.
RV Happiness Is...
....knowing your son is driving a forklift at Lowes, flying over him just
on the chance he sees you, and having a picture of your pass on your
phone waiting for you when you shut down. A productive .3 working on
technique and refining a checklist.
Tate Reeves photo
One of the reasons for the flight Monday morning
was to see how well a revised checklist I've been
reworking performed in practice. I took the
look/feel from the sim part time stuff I've been
exposed to and made one for the RV. It's a
work in progress (below), but when I get the kinks
worked out I'll run it up to Office Depot and get it
laminated and store it where the glareshield and the
canopy meet. On the back will be emergency
checklists, light gun signals, etc.
I'm doing this in Pages (Mac) and I'd be happy to
put the file online when I finish with it if anyone
would like to use it as a starting point for theirs.
And before you ask, GIFTSTPC2B2C
stands for: Gas (verify L or R),
Instruments (Baro, HDG bug, Altitude level-off
set), Flaps (up), Trim (for T/O),
Strobes (OFF), Transponder (STD), Pump
(OFF), Canopy Canopy (both latches
secure - RV6 tip up has two) Belt Belt
(both belts secure) Controls (free/correct).
Been using this for 18 years and it covers most
of the 'killer items' nicely. 'GIFT' 'STP'
gets you mostly there...
How many of you pump the brakes on downwind to see
if a pedal goes to the floor? It's happened...
June 22, 2020. Issue #5,110.
contract pilot side work)
Kids ...Rob Traynham
Today my son Ruston, (ex-A-10 pilot) took a childhood
friend Scott, (ex- P-3 pilot) for his first RV ride. They
hadn't seen each other in over 30 years! To make it even
more interesting, Scott's son Sam also went for his first RV
ride. Sam just passed his CFI checkride last week.
It's easy to see that the RV smiles were evident! What a
great place for a reunion of childhood friends, ex-military
pilots, airline pilots and next generation
From lurker to builder? ...sloengineer
Well after much pontification and persuasion of the
silent partners (aka wives), it seems my dad and I are
finally preparing for an RV-14A build!! The shop site is
being prepped and should be done, covid permitting, in the
next couple months. As I plan, please let me ask a question
to the collective.
If you could only pick one item to quick build, would you
pick wings or fuselage? I figure the empennage will last us
until we have to make that decision, but I'd rather be
VAF Moved Over The Weekend
The VAF data moved 700.5 statute miles over the weekend from St. Louis to the
buildings pictured below, around 8 miles north of the
Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center in Virginia. Or at least
most of it did, as cloud EBS volumes are explained to me.
Still wrapping my head around cloud computing, but I'll get
there I promise.
This move would not have gone as smoothly as it did without the help of
RV-14A builder 'bkervaski'. One sharp guy. Very
glad Bill and RVs found each other - we're all benefiting
So for a bit it's the same VAF in a faster, more stable,
new location. You should notice the faster part now.
Updated/upgraded forums software is in the warm up circle
and at the plate next. Sooner than you might think.
Better, Stronger, Faster (queue Six Million Dollar
Man theme music)
Outside: AWS NE Region (Virginia)
Inside said building...
RV-8 throttle travel shrinking ...Pilot8
A new throttle cable from Van's has 2 1/8" travel- over
time the travel will decrease by 3/8" on my IO360-M1B RV8.
The throttle cable is firesleeved from the fuel servo end to
the engine mount. Aluminum fiberglass tape wraps the
firesleeve, and exhaust heat shields protect the cable at
the crossover spots. The cable travel doesn't get any
shorter after 3/8 is lost- at 50 hours, 1/4" of travel is
gone. It's been repeatable with two cables. Anybody else
seen this issue? 3/8" is a lot of horsepower!
someone tell me how Van's does this MAP line? ...jcarney
Q: Hello, I pulled this pic from Van's 360 view of
the RV-14 engine.
I want to do my manifold pressure line just like they did.
It looks like the line is just hose clamped on the left to
the MAP sensor but what did they do on the right where it
attaches to the engine? I have an AN816 coming out right
there, do they just hose clamp the line to it?
Finally, what type of hose is that? Thanks!
1/4 ID fuel rated hose
Fitting should have a restrictor added to it if you make
In the new Garmin Pilot update (v10.1.2). I
recorded a 24 second video of me playing around with some of
my 2019 data.
Milestone: Phase 1 Complete ...FlyinTiger RV-10
RV-10 envelope expansion. What a fine
example of an RV-10. It's easy to see why people
walk up to Eulice while he's fueling up and admire
his handiwork. As he finishes his Phase I and
starts looking to travel out and about I wish him
all the best!
My RV Weekend ...zmatt
June 19, 2020. Issue #5,109.
The move over to the new hosting platform will most likely occur this
coming Sunday morning (Texas time). What that means is
that the site will definitely be offline for a bit, and might
not be accessible for a few hours. If everything goes OK
and you didn't check in on the site during the first half of
Sunday (Texas time), you may not notice a thing has even
changed. It could be a perfectly seamless update to you.
Also, it could explode and go full excrement, getting switched
back to the current location for a bit.
This first hurdle, and it's a big one, is to
get the current data over to a more stable, robust and
scaleable location. Two test runs have worked
swell in the last two weeks and testing looks good.
I've been updating the front page in parallel to the new
location daily this past week, and that flow seems to be
fine. So if all goes as planned you'll see the
same VAF Monday morning. New host. Same look
After this weekend's move, there are some forum upgrade paths already in
the pipeline that might make a few folks shat their
pantaloons. Mobile friendly, user blogs, private
and public groups, chat, PM custom folders and
.........wait for it.......almost certainly........image
hosting. Clean up on isle four please!
Don't scream too loud, but it'll probably happen.
The goal of the move this weekend is to get what we already have in a
new, safer, more stable place. Then the feature
upgrades get underway. Think good thoughts, and
thanks for understanding during construction.
We're swinging big, so hang on! Up yours, 2020!
Up yours like a fox!
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
contract pilot side work)
Status Report ...jcarne
Well believe it or not I have still been working
on the bird but when you spend most of your time
sanding fiberglass there isn't much to show. Until
While waiting for epoxy to cure I did a few odds and
ends. Like this hinge pin retainer, works great.
many pics --->
Help... Cannot get brake lines to stop adding air to the lines. ...hughfi
I am just about finished my RV12is E-LSA but the
brakes master cylinders keep adding air into the
lines right from the first compression. Any ideas
what I am doing wrong. Anyone know of an instruction
guide on how to make the lines just right? I talked
to Matco and they pretty much told me they should be
fine if they extend fully open to allow fluid in
from the top. Well, they are not and they are
I am inclined to believe it has to do with the way I
constructed the lines. Also, there appears to be
different fittings to go over the lines on the top
45 degree fittings compared to the bottom 90 degree
Seems simple, and I have bled a bunch of brakes
before on my RV6 with no problems, but I cannot stop
these cylinders adding air to the lines.
Any advice or instruction greatly appreciated.
(JD) Saturday was a post-rain morning over the
high desert and I captured some nice views while out
doing some video camera testing.
Front Wheel Bracket Powder Coated ...dwranda
Having too much fun powder coating things. I took
my baffles elsewhere since they wouldn't fit in my
little oven. Now the wheels will go on. I could
wait, but I'm excited to do it and I can work on the
wheel pants etc while I figure out how I'm paying
for my panel
you know about hurricane relocation reimbursement? ...VAF advertiser
Did you know about hurricane relocation
We understand that everyone has a lot more on their
plates than usual this year, so we wanted to send
out a reminder about the hurricane relocation
programs that most insurance companies offer. I
recently read an interesting article on
Accuweather.com com stating that the forcasters were
thinking that 2020 was going to be an above-normal
season. With everything else 2020 has brought us,
maybe we should have expected this
Each company is different, but many aviation
insurance policies will reimburse you to move your
aircraft out of the path of a named hurricane or
wind storm if possible. These companies would rather
pay the reimbursement expenses (usually up to a set
limit) rather than pay for a totaled aircraft. If
you're wondering if your insurance company partakes
in a program like this, it will be listed in your
policy. You can also contact your insurance broker
for more information.
If you are unable to move your aircraft and need to
turn in a claim, here are numbers for the companies
we insure Vans Aircraft through:
Edge distance issues at firewall ...Aero_Octaveus
Has anyone else had edge distance issues on the
topmost hole of the side skin F-770 where the AD3
rivet attaches to the firewall flange. I haven't
drilled mine yet, but it really looks like i'm going
to blow the edge distance here and I cannot for the
life of me figure out how to get more distance.
shoutout to Flyleds
Just wanted to comment about my recent experience
with Paul at Flyleds.
I ordered two sets of his combo landing/taxi lights
for my RV7 wings a few months ago. Shipping from
down under took about a month and when the box
showed up, I tore in to put these together.
I found the assembly to be straightforward, but
afterward, when I bench checked them I discovered
that one of the 3 LEDs on one of the boards wasn't
I emailed Paul and asked about warranty replacement
and he replied right away. He said he would send out
a replacement unit right away if I was close to
flying, but if it wasn't urgent he would appreciate
if I could send the faulty one back and he would
just replace the one bad LED.
I don't even have the fuselage kit yet, so urgency
wasn't an issue. He suggested that I disassemble the
unit and just send back the main board in a padded
envelope to cut down on shipping costs. He also
mentioned that they bench check all of them, so he
was a little surprised.
When I took the lenses off, I could barely see a a
scratch across the face of the faulty one. Theres a
good chance I did this to myself when I was
assembling the lenses on top of the board. There is
a note in the instructions that says you may have a
little of the heat sink glue ooze up through the
mounting holes when you glue them on the back and
screw everything together, and that you can pick
this out as long as your careful to not damage the
led. I can't honestly say whether I picked the glue
out of this particular LED or scratched it, but it's
at least a possibility, and he said they bench check
them all before sending them out...
I emailed him back and confessed that I thought this
was what happened and that I'd be happy to cover
shipping and whatever he thought was fair for a
repair. His immediate response was don't worry about
it, just cover shipping to get it to him and he
would take care of it.
I shipped the board back on 4-3-2020 and thanks to
the chaos Covid-19 subsequently caused with air
travel, it took a while for him to get it but on
5-19-2020 I got an email from him that basically
said "got it yesterday, repaired it today, will ship
it out tomorrow."
It showed up at my house a couple of weeks later,
repaired, with a new tube of glue to put the heat
sinks back on, and some lens inserts to help center
the lenses when I snapped them back in place. He
didn't want any payment for the repair, or even
shipping it back to me.
Long story, but it seems like we will go into all
sorts of detail when we're complaining about being
taken advantage of. I felt like it was important to
throw out the same level of detail for a vendor who
really went above and beyond to back up their
product and really give customer service thats
second to none.
ps- these things are super bright, and have a tiny
current draw compared to incandescent. They are also
reasonably priced. Same with the Flyled wingtip
strobe/nav lights. I'm not flying yet, but have
every reason to think that they'll fit my mission
perfectly at a reasonable price. I'd happily buy
this whole setup again.
June 18, 2020. Issue #5,108.
contract pilot side work)
RV7 N430WB First Flight! ...wjb
After 8.5 years of slow building, 2311 hours in
the builders log, RV7 N430WB finally broke the surly
bonds today for a successful first flight from KHAF
Half Moon Bay, CA. Engine ran well; CHT's a little
hot prior to break in but totally manageable. The
pitot ASI died on takeoff, but I was able to fly
with the GPS GS reading on Garmin. Slightly heavy
right wing, but very easy to trim out.
Overall, it was a non-event! I went up with Brian
Branscomb under AC 90-116, a hangar neighbor, ATP,
CFI, A&P and lifelong home builder with ~10 first
flights in his logbook to help keep eyes on things;
he said he was a little bored -- a perfect low drama
I even managed a totally respectable 3 point
landing; of course it was early morning at the field
and there was no one to see it.
Post flight de-cowling showed no leaks or any other
Finally happy to be flying!
Nineteen days since the last RV flight, but
N617AR went flying on 6/17...and then I called 'AR'
to wish her a happy birthday.
Broken bathtub, broken a/c in Tate's car, error
codes in my car, squirrels in attic, ISP move
planning/testing and more perfect storm items
keeping me on the surface waaaaay too long, but
Wednesday I finally went out and RVated!!!!
$2.60 gas over at Bridgeport and washed the plane
when back. The field shown below had just been
cut, and looked really nice in the morning light.
Full size iPhone pic
.7 logged and mental gyros re-aligned.
Really, really felt good to be in the RV.
Punch list regarding recent avionics changes is on
deck now that the tub and cars are back online <g>.
Yes You Can ...submitted by DanH
[ed. In regards to the 'can you touch the prop to
the runway' discussion] "I submit this
example, a nice -14 in the hands of a new owner."
Lake Mungo ...newt
Six RVs and 11 people went from Sydney to Lake
Mungo National Park, a round trip of about 970
nautical miles, held over a holiday long weekend.
Fantastic flying in the outback. Lots of photos and
narratives here. Occasional language warning because
we Aussies have different conversational English
standards to you guys <g>.
My RV Weekend ...mr.sun
We flew the -7 back from SoCal To the Seattle
area on Sunday. Had the opportunity to fly the
grandson around a bit while down there. We departed
vfr about 9:30 am, fueled in Red Bluff. Filed IFR
and headed north. Had some IMC in layers along the
way. Nearing home, runway was closed due to
somebody's gear up landing. Nobody hurt. Diverted to
a friend's AirPark runway and visited from opposite
ends of their picnic table. Got word all was clear
so flew to our home airport, put her away in the
hangar and went out to dinner.
No long commutes to big airports, no long lines,
security hassles, cramped metal tubes full of germs
or parking hassles.
These are amazing time machines. Especially these
(2) LSAs Tangle on the Ground (video) ...fwd'd to me
by Jerry Fischer
RV-12 kinda look alike - OK-PUU (Poland).
Kappa KP-5 aircraft.
"From our retired Royal Air Force friend in
UK.............. Do you know where your
brakes and throttle are without looking?"
June 17, 2020. Issue #5,107.
Today is our daughter Audrey's 25th birthday. Happy Birthday Ace!!!
Your Mom and and Dad love you more than you will ever know, and
a whole bunch of family and friends, as well as people you've
never met, are rooting for you as you slog through getting your
PhD in Chemistry.
The present she specifically asked for? She wanted our spare Roomba
(it was my Mom's). Cleaning it up now, new brushes and
filters, and its then on its way kiddo. She can rename it
what she wants, but we called it 'Luke'. It was white
plastic and would do battle with our original, black plastic one
we called 'Darth'. Epic living room battles...
contract pilot side work)
Al Dyck RV-7 ...Ontario, Canada
Yellow and black are paint. Red, roundels and reg
JD Air RV14 latch ...VAF Advertiser
For all of you RV14 builders with intentions of
using the Classic Aero interior, the new JD Air
canopy latch is ready for immediate shipping. I have
them in both Red anodized and natural aluminum.
Luke has assured RV 14 builders that the new panels
are in the works and should be available soon.
Specifically, you'll have to check with Luke on
There is no difference mechanically between the
existing latch and the new latch. The new latch only
addresses additional clearance needed for the
Darwin N. Barrie
Basic Electrical Diagram ...supik
v.34 is now online and open to
Looking for some help diagnosing a fuel flow
problem. I have a MGL Stratomaster Infinity FF-1
fuel computer with a Floscan 201 sender. It has
always worked great, but all of the sudden the FF
reads 1.1 gal/hr regardless of throttle/RPM. It
reads 0 gal/hr with the engine off as it should. I
have checked the settings, K-factor and electrical
wires and all appears fine. Before I drop $400 on
another Floscan that might not be the problem, I am
wondering if anyone has any ideas to try. I have
read that an air bubble in the sender will cause
errors, but the Floscan is supposed to vent those. I
did replace the fuel lines recently, but it was
working fine after that. Any help would be
Search Tip: Golf Clubs in RVs ...or
really any topic.
Go to Google (or any search engine) and type in:
golf clubs site:vansairforce.com
Click on 'Images' and you'll see a lot of pics/ideas.
Speaking of golf clubs, a note from Mel (DAR): "Two
things to be careful of......1/ The baggage bulkhead
is structural and 2/ Watch your aft C/G as fuel is
An Update on AndyWAUS's "Overwhelmed After A Month of
Thank you everyone again for the incredible
outpour of support! Your advice is very much
appreciated. I will definitely make that trip to
Eugene one day when this lockdown is over. I came in
person to Aurora to pick up my empennage, but
couldn't get a factory tour or a demo flight because
of corona, so I don't actually know how the plane
flies. I only ever flew C152 and C172 (and a Yak-52
So I concluded that even if I did mess up the parts
with my deep countersinking, I'll just keep going
and treat it as a practice project. When I see what
a bad result look like, I'll reorder all VS parts
and corresponding rivets and start over.
Yesterday I was busy priming for my first time. The
result of course looks like ****. I did the advised
here 1:2 P60G2:R7K44 ratio instead of Sherwin's
recommended 1:1.5. But I had skipped over the advice
to apply it lightly. So I have some spots that are
very dark from the excess of paint running on the
uneven surface collecting in low points and then
drying up, while other spots have light tint. Only
after I was done priming I went to my computer and
read a thread about the SW P60G2 primer, which said
spray just enough you can barely tell the difference
from unprimed. Another day, another lesson, I guess.
Also I learned that an N95 respirator is useless,
and inhaling atomized primer is no fun. I tried
buying something more advanced, but you can't just
buy a respirator these days.
I finally got to riveting today. This is what I
thought building a plane would be - riveting
pre-manufactured parts - not all the prep that comes
before it. I only set 20 or so rivets in countersunk
holes with a squeezer, took me a while, but I love
seeing how clean they look. I guess rivets in
dimpled skin set with a gun and a bucking bar won't
look nearly as neat. We'll see.
I get enough enjoyment out of it to keep coming to
the garage. I'm not even dreaming about flying it
when I'm so early in the build. It's just so many
new little things that I try doing for the first
time in my life, and the resulting quality less than
desired. All your words of support helped
tremendously! Even Dan's advice to quit now (I ain't
quitting until I'm done ruining the parts that I
paid 4 grand for). Good to know I don't need to
worry about mods now and will have plenty of time to
Also I was stressing about a bunch of scratch marks
on the pieces that I left while pushing the
countersink cage, drilling, and fitting parts
together. But then I took that maroon pad to prepare
parts for priming and soon realized how stupid it
was to worry about scratches.
Proof of Riveting ...Freemasm's take on it
Milestone: First Meeting w/my Tech Counselor Today
I met my EAA tech counselor, Jim Frisbee, today.
That has to be the greatest benefit of EAA
membership. It was extremely informative, and now I
feel (mostly) comfortable enough to move on with the
rudder assembly. I used the double sided tape on the
trailing edge wedge and have it all clamped
together. Planning to do the double blind rivets
tomorrow. I practiced on the trailing edge of the
practice kit, and the results with the pneumatic
squeezer and the trailing edge set from Cleaveland
tool seemed very good. If you wonder why there
aren't clekos in every hole, it's because the holes
drilled in the angle aluminum didn't line up well
enough and I didn't want to force it and risk damage
to the rudder skins.
June 16, 2020. Issue #5,106.
If you're looking for RV transition training Alex De Dominicis is
scheduling now for July. More info at
contract pilot side work)
Keeping my seats cool in the summer sun ...seagull
If you live in a hot climate like me or leave
your plane in the sun you have experienced putting
on seat belts with extremely hot buckles. I found a
solution using a spring type windshield sun screen.
This type coils up when not being used, it's light
weight and fits behind the seat. It covers both
seats from the panel to behind the seats. Cost on
Amazon was (2) for $15.99.
Made our first full family trip in the 10 this
weekend. Took my wife and two younger sons to Beaver
Island MI this weekend. Due to Covid, pretty much
had the island to ourselves.
New RV-7A Has Wings ...pgroell (France)
Flew 20mn to Romuald's hangar to install the
wings on his RV-7A. And voila, a new french RV
almost ready for the first flight
Thanks to the great advice of this forum by
brakes are working. Next, I'm continually replacing
the weather strip canopy seal on my RV4. The
peel-off backing adhesive just doesn't last. Is it a
matter of poor prep on my part or is there a better
type of seal? Any recommendations?
RV4 in Boulder.
Pre Pre Build Update ...jamlip
Initial Contact ...AndyWAUS
Feeling overwhelmed after a month of building
Hello fellow builders. I'm a new builder, just
registered, and this is my first post here.
I was very excited to buy an empennage kit for RV-10
and all the tools. I watched hours of youtube videos
and read the Van's builder's manual twice.
Quite frankly, I expected more of an IKEA experience
with finished parts and exact assembly instructions.
What I found was more of an art project where it's
up to me to decide when edges are deburred smooth
enough or holes countersunk deep enough. I just
can't seem to get the hang of it - using
countersinking as an example - the manual says
countersink 7 microstop clicks deeper than flush for
the piece to accept dimpled skin. But then it says
the dimpled piece should sit flat on top of the
countersunk piece. If I do 7 clicks and test with a
dimpled piece, it doesn't sit anywhere near flat. If
I countersink deeper it does sit flat, but how deep
can I go before compromising the structural
integrity? I have a vertical stabilizer rear spar
sitting on the workbench with a bunch of holes all
countersunk to different depth, and I'm not sure
what to do.
That was just an example. Another thing I just found
a few days ago is the idea of "mods". I want to
build the best airplane for myself that I would love
flying. Now I'm thinking if I don't make proper
decisions early in the building process I would
regret not having something (like a rudder servo
Did you feel this way when you were just starting?
Proseal fillet question ...Jskyking
This is my first pro seal job and I'm trying to
visualize the "generous fillet of sealant approx
3/8" radius at the interior corner of the
1. Are they saying the Proseal radius should be 3/8"
The radius should extend 3/8" from the flange. In
other words to a build up vertically or laterally.
2. What are they calling the "interior corner". I
would think that would be the corners where the rear
baffle mates up to each rib.
I suppose one could interpret the paragraph as to do
each corner of only the most inboard rib and the
most outboard rib.
It's a head scratcher, I appreciate an
New RV-14A build in Durango, CO ...rogermiller12345
Started 4/1/20 and on the Aft Fuselage with
partial completion on vert stab, rudder, horizontal
stab and elevators. Looking for any other RV
builders in the area or state of Colorado.
Status Report ...David Paule RV-3B
2nd Try, Inner Flange
Since the first inner flange was unsatisfactory, I
made another one. Here it is, still in the canopy as
laminated. I've removed the peel ply but haven't
separated it yet. I hope it's not too thin....
After a long hiatus, back with a question about the
aileron inboard bracket ...Scott Emerson RV-14A
On the Aileron inboard bracket safety bulletin,
unlike the initial instructions that are replaced by
the bulletin, the bulletin instructions did not
specifically mention to remove the same "hatch area"
as the initial instructions and so I forgot to do
that on the right wing when I installed it.
I am in the process of building the left wing and am
wondering if it is indeed still supposed to be
removed since the bulletin that I have did not
mention to do so. When I looked at the installed
bracket, the tab on 1013E-L flushly meets the
aileron spar face. It essentially acts as a hard
stop. The deflection of the aileron seems to be
within range of movement in the upward travel.
I am not sure if I should remove the right aileron
and remove the tab on the installed bracket and then
make the left to match, or leave the tab on both.
Looking at the SB in figure 13, it shows the parts
both with the tab not cut off and there are no
instructions to do so, but if you look at figure 14,
the drawing no longer shows the "tab".
Its been over a year and a half since I last did
metal work on this project and trying to get back
into the swing of things!
Getting a correct Big Cut trim line ...Draker
Well, the weather in NorCal this weekend isn't
going to get very hot, so I'm going to put off the
big cut. This gives me another week to agonize over
the cut line on my (tipper) canopy. I can't seem to
get the top of the canopy less than an inch or so
from the roll bar. I've trimmed and trimmed and
trimmed (probably trimmed too much) and it still
doesn't rest close to the roll bar. Van's says to
draw the line "when you have gotten the fit to be
somewhat close". Does 1 inch count as somewhat?
June 15, 2020. Issue #5,105.
Lots of good Wx and I'm guessing RVating. I spent the weekend doing
yardwork and fighting a lion-hearted campaign against our tub,
replacing came-with-the-house circa 1987 faucet cartridges to
finally stop the dripping. Epic battle. Much
cursing. Some crying. A little blood. I won.
Hope you had a nice weekend and got to spend some quality time with your
RV and/or RV project!
contract pilot side work)
N418RT Gets a new home in SoCal ...GimpyPilot
I didn't build it, but I was very graciously allowed to
acquire RV-7A N418RT from her builder, (Richie at KOMN), who
completed it in 2016 and flew her for 200 hours. I had the
distinct pleasure of taking her home to KVNY last week in
16.5 flight hours. There's not a squawk to be found, and
very little I will do to make he my own. (I've just ordered
the parts for my hand brakes, and I'll have a GMA-345 in the
panel to go with the existing G3x/GTN 650 shortly. Beyond
that, she's perfect for me already.)
Thanks so much Richie! You are a wonderful person, and I
couldn't have asked for a nicer airplane.
Status Report ...vinzer RV-10
Its being a while since I have not posted here. Sorry.
Was busy with everything + COVID thing. I know, no excuses
when building RV-10, reports should be posted periodically
So here is my report:
Vertical stab completed 100%
Rudder completed 90% (waiting for inspection before closing)
Horizontal stab completed 90% (waiting for inspection before
Elevators completed 80% (waiting for inspection before
closing + planning to rebuild trailing edges)
Tailcone completed 40% (working on it right now, hope to
finish it soon)
My wings kit is on its way, few days ago got confirmation
from VANs about crating process and completed my payment. So
will soon start to work on my wings
So far everything goes smooth, my wife and kids help me alot
with this build.
I am updating my youtube channel with new videos about my
build as well as my blog page. Both can be found in my
On another note I am just curious if someone is currently
selling or planning to sell fuselage and finishing kit. I
know sometimes people give up on building or changing their
minds. Anyway just curious as I would probably want to buy
these kits if some one is selling. I will post in
Here are some pictures:
Last, All Done Except the Polishing ...leok
Here are the photos of the finished paint (the last major
step). The concept is a tribute to my father, both images on
the fin/rudder are portraits of my father in his handmade
Indian art work. The name of the plane is 'Windwalker'.
RV-14 Builder in New England ...initial contact
I'm newly registered to this site. I'm very close to
pulling the trigger on an RV-14 kit and was looking to
connect with someone in New England that might be building
this airplane. Let me know who and where.
Status Shots ...Sibirsky
RV-7. Mesquite, TX. 7am 6/14.
N-number/Owner doesn't search up to be a VAF registered
user, so I'll respect their privacy. It's a
2011-registered plane, so I'm guessing either new engine, or
other major engine work? Whatever it is, it seems to
have gone well.
Tailwheel shifts to "castering" mode too easily ...Leopold
Q: Hi, all.
I've got an RV8 with (I think) a Bell tailwheel. Lately,
when taxiing, and turning right (right rudder), the
tailwheel shifts from steerable to castering with only
minimal pressure. Going left, it does not have that problem.
I took the tailwheel assembly apart yesterday, cleaned all
the parts (including the spring and the dog that it fits
into, and the rectangular hole in the bolt that the dog fits
into) with solvent, re-greased, and put it back together.
Took it apart, cleaned it, and looked at it (should've done
that first time). There is some metal wear; the rectangular
hole really is not exactly rectangular, and the place where
the dog "breaks" from steering to castering also looks
I was thinking of just replacing all those parts...does
anyone think there is an easier solution that I am missing?
did you do with your RV this weekend (6/12 - 6/14) ...various
Surface corrosion on tappet ...N360DF
My engine parts was stored in oily paper to avoid corrosion.
But unfortunately the paper was bleached and properly had a
chlorine content. The loss is big and parts need to be
The tappets is pretty good, but some have some surface
Very shallow. I am not afraid they breaks down, they will
But I have not knowledge how the tappets works ?
Maybe someone may help me?
Do they seal or is the oil film leaking between case and
Could some pitting reduce pressure some way?
I was told they actually rotate to spread the wear ?
Anyone who know more in detail ?
Look at picture! This is the worst one! The rust easy goes
I just slightly used 1200 wet paper. I will check OD with
And polish to get smooth surface.
The tappet surface against cam is perfect.
Thanks for all help!
Status Update ...goatflieg RV-8
June 12, 2020. Issue #5,104.
Last few days for the PCU5000 group buy. I think they are up to 26
units - the next price break (per Chris Hutchings) at 31 units
gets the price down to $1,300. More info below.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend!!!
a part time contract pilot? How 'bout me?)
Things happen for a good reason ...Sobnorslu
Last week , on take off , right around 60 knots I
felt a slight vibration , I did an RTO and as soon
as I exited the runway , the plane felt like it was
taxiing on mud , it was after 6 pm , made a few
phone calls , no answer , my mechanic said he left
and was close to his house , the field is
uncontrolled , there was a 172 doing touch and goes
, he radioed a phone number which I called right way
, within 10 minutes two guys showed up , ED's
aircraft refinishing and his buddy Jay , they tried
to inflate it but the tube was bad , they went back
to their hangar and got me a spare nose wheel , I
taxied it back and as soon as I parked , I saw this
massive patch of Fog rolling in ( unforcasted ) I
kid you not , within 15 minutes the field was IFR ,
200 ft ceiling , mist and 1/4 mile visibility , im
glad I didn't fly that day , I am instrument rated
but the airplane is not ! I was planning on doing a
night flight with a landing/taxiback at JFK . Things
happen for a good reason , I stayed at the airport
until 20:30 , kept listening to the ATIS as the
weather was worsening .
The Historical Record
I realized that I never really finished this
So after both tanks passing the initial leak test I
removed the cork gaskets and installed the plates
with just pro seal.
After letting the tanks cure for at least two weeks,
I retested using the same procedure. Both tanks
passed the leak tests.
Procedure used for testing tanks:
Closed or sealed up all tank openings
Installed a 0 to 15 inches of water pressure gauge
on the tank drain fitting.
Set up a temp probe next to the tank.
Pressured up tank to 9 inches of water.
Recorded the pressure and temperature every 30
minutes to an hour for over 12 hours.
Used leak test fluid periodically to look for leaks.
(SNOOP or equivalent)
Let sit overnight, continued recording temp and
pressure for another 12 hrs.
The pressure / temp recording allowed me to track
the pressure movements (and they will move) during
the 24 hr test. The method for making sense of the
pressure fluctuations is:
Pressure fall and temp falls = normal contraction of
Pressure rises and temp rises = normal expansion of
Pressure falls and temp stays the same or rises =
Pressure stays the same and temps rise = possible
Pressure increases and the temp falls = laws of
physics ceased working
Zuldarin's 507 on Glareshield ....beat me to it!
Hi everybody, at the risk of hijacking DR's
thread I thought I would give a status update on my
attempts at designing a similar glare-shield mount.
Using Solidworks I designed something akin to what
DR posted but with a couple of changes to fit my own
needs. I then sent that design to Geoff at Aerosport
to print on his industrial 3D printer. The result
came back looking really nice as you can see in the
pictures below. I know Geoff has some great idea's
for modifications for future models but this is
where we are for now.
One aspect specific to the RV-10 is that I used the
Aerosport 310 carbon fiber panel which means my AP
controller had to be adjusted to fit. Additionally,
I didn't want the connector to be attached without
the back-shell. I moved the mount higher up on the
glare-shield so that the full connector could be
Study Notes 2020 ...using new(ish) tech
I'm compiling study notes once again (this time
for the ATP written), and continuing on with a
process that worked for me while prepping for the
instrument, commercial and multi ratings. The
end goal (other than passing) is to have a several
hundred page document in PDF format on my phone in
my pocket so I can study during life wait times
(treadmill, waiting for takeout, etc).
Beats reading the news and I'm doing something
1. I purchased a 1-year rental of popular study
software that runs on my iPad and open the app.
Many to choose from.
2. I plugged the iPad into my Mac, started QuickTime
Player (comes with the Mac)
3. Started a new 'recording' with the iPad as the
camera input source. This gives me a copy of
what is on my iPad displayed in a window on my Mac.
4. I opened Pages on the Mac.
5. I use Command-Control-Shift-4 to copy to
the clipboard a question/explanation off the iPad
and paste (Command-V) it into Pages.
6. Use the same keystrokes to grab copies of the
relevant figures for that question.
7. Add a 'shape' to the figures (the little fountain
pen icon in the upper right corner) if needed.
Make it red, put a little arrow on the end if you
feel like it.
8. Put in a page break and move on the next
9. Do five of these a day and before you know it
you'll have some crazy good study notes - you
actually learn the material.
10. When I'm done I'll have a several hundred page
PDF with all of the questions answered, explained,
and with annotated figures.
On my phone....in my pocket. No fumbling
A sample page from today's study session:
And yes, I create PDF lists to study. I
turned a baseball-sized pile of flash cards into a 2
1/2 page PDF doc of Phenom 300 Limitations for the
part time sim side job. Lives in my
phone now. A grab....
The roughly 3x5 card below (my Mona Lisa) shows
(8) flight profiles for the Phenom, and it reads (to
me) like a METAR. For the yoke in the sim.
I'll translate the first column (Precision
Approach): Holding 170 knots, Approach
checklist, 15nm or outbound Flaps 1 bug 150,
Glideslope Alive Gear down, Flaps 2, Bug 130,
Glideslope 1 dot Landing flaps, Vref, Outer
marker/Established Glideslope set go around
altitude, before landing checklist (below that
the Missed Approach).
And yeah I'll probably end up typing some card
like this for the RV... I'm weird, I know.
Emergency scenarios and such...
I need to replace this sheave that lifts my
hangar door via a hydraulic ram. There are 4 cables
that go around the sheave, and the door is a
one-piece, metal frame with corrugated steel (read
heavy). I can use 6061T6 for the replacement.
Opinions on the strength of that alloy? The sheave
is 4" diameter with a 1" steel pin and bronze
bushings. The broken pin seized in the bushings and
was spinning until it (probably after a few years)
wore down to 1/4" diameter then failed.
tank baffle line of leaky rivets -- Advice?
After feeling really good about building one fuel
tank that had no leaks upon pressure testing, I
confidently undertook to seal and rivet the second
one. as a new fuel tank expert, I knew exactly what
to do, and it all went swimmingly well.
Until the pressure test.
Fortunately, everything is very well sealed,
except for about 15 rivets on the top inboard edge
of the baffle (the suds below are just from running
down the tank skin). I am at a loss to understand
what happened here, but I assume that it was an
inadequate bead of sealant on this edge. I don't get
why, though, because sealant squeezed out the rear
side of this joint when it was assembled. There is a
nice bead along the back side, but clearly, air is
leaking in the front (internal) side and reaching
I can see a few options for repairing, but would
like some advice, if you'd be so kind...
1. Drill out these rivets, and reinstall with
sealant on the heads (I didn't apply sealant to
these rivets originally, assuming the bead inside
the tank would be adequate). This would be super
easy, but have the greatest likelihood of not
working, or failing later in the life of the tank.
2. Drill out these rivets, pry the skin back and
clean the faying surfaces of any sealant remaining,
squirt some sealant into the gap, cleco it, shoot a
few rivets for structural integrity and then try a
new low pressure test to see if it worked, then
drive the rest of the rivets. This seems like it
would work, but there's a chance shooting new
sealant wouldn't cover the whole gap. Also, a chance
that I could just end up damaging the sealant bead
inboard and outboard of the repair. The cleaning
part would be really difficult.
3. Drill out the rivets on the entire top of the
baffle and try to apply a new bead after cleaning.
4. Pull the level sensor and try to apply sealant
from the inside through that hole.
5. Cut a hole in the baffle, reseal from inside, and
apply a repair plate.
What would you do? What has the best chance of
June 11, 2020. Issue #5,103.
N.TX today. Heads up.
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First UK RV-14 flies ...EdH post
After plenty of delay thanks to pandemic lockdown
restriction, the first RV-14 in the UK finally made its
first flight early evening on 9 June.
Built by Bill Sweetnam in just under 20 months and 1,500
hours of work, the first flight was made by Light Aircraft
Association designated pilot (and RV-8 builder) Steve Ayres.
Weighed my RV-7 Today ...John Johnson
I had my RV-7 weighed today and it came in at:
501 left main
489 right main
This is with paint, IO-360-M1B, Catto 3-Blade +20 lb crush
plate, Fly LED lights, Duckworks halogen landing lights, GRT
Sport EX, GRT EIS, Garmin 200 com, Garmin Transponder, FL
Interiors Seats, and no interior.
I am pleased with the weights.
CREW RV8 Wingman New Livery ...lucaperazzolli
It was time for my friend Franz to change the livery of
his 8 into a matched one.
With the unique help and work of the Basso Brother (Giuliano
& Giovanni) designers for job, great airplanes addicted and
CREWRV8 fans we like to share with VAF family the final
Help ID parts..... RV-10
I got my RV-10 QB wings/fuselage and empennage kit this
week. Inventory done, all good, except there was one little
bundle of parts that I can't reconcile against the inventory
(I may just be missing them but it's 19 pages of single
Any help in ID'ing these parts (just tell me where they go
in the airplane, I'll figure it out from there) would be
appreciated. The little aluminum strip I'm not worried about
- I'm sure I'll figure that one out when I get to that page
in the plans
FlyLeds Wig Wag Module
Today I installed my Flyleds Wig Wags module that I bought
last summer in Oshkosh ( Yep I know I'm slow ) and when I
tested them they worked on all 8 flashing modes but that is
it...They don't go back to steady lights even though I turned
them off for more than a seconds as called for then back
They are always flashing
Anyone here ever had this happening with their Flyleds Wig
Wag module or know something I may have missed??
A: (Paul at Flyleds)
The Single Switch mode is optional.
To enable this mode of operation, press and hold the PATTERN
button and then apply power.
Release the PATTERN button. The lights will flash briefly
and then come on continuously.
This procedure only needs to be performed once at
- Turn your panel switch ON, and both lights come on in
Landing Light mode as normal.
- To activate WigWag mode, turn the switch OFF then back ON
again within one second.
- To go back to Landing Lights, turn the switch OFF then
back ON again after one second.
To return the module to WigWag Only mode, repeat the
procedure given above. The lights will briefly flash
left/right, and then begin to flash the stored wigwag
Flutter of AST in Flight ...David Rohrlick RV-12iS
I have been documenting my test flights extensively using
a 360 camera mounted on the tail tie down. I have noticed
that the the AST tends to flutter in flight. This it not
notable whatsoever in the stick in flight. I have the older
style AST trim with no bend in the rod. There is a very
small amount of play when you hold the stabilator stationary
on the ground and then flex the AST. I have looked at three
other RV-12's and they seam to have to same amount of static
play. I made a 1 min video so you can all see what I'm
talking about. Anyone have any insight on this?
June 10, 2020. Issue #5,102.
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Tate (June 2011) taking some pics of an RV-10 fresh
out of GLO. Learning the trade ;^).
RV-14 Tail kit ordered ...fgwilliams
Been thinking about it for years. Lots of back
story and an RV crazy kid.
Ordered the kit this afternoon. Barb from Vans
called to get card info quickly. From sending kit
order email to paid confirmation email was 20
Time to get busy!
Learning to fly while building too. ;^)
First Flight... the pilot. Where did you solo.
My training and solo was out of
this strip in 1979. By then it had been paved
but only out to a width of 25 feet... and even at
that the edges were eroded back to 20 feet by the
time I started training there. There was a farm
fence on one end and a road with power lines at the
other. The runway was 1800' long and the turnoff was
3/4 down the runway. We were trained to make that
turnoff, it led straight to the gas station type
You think all of this is normal.... until at around
10 hours we head out of our training area and go
here. This field is 7000' long by 150'
wide. For me then, it was hard to land on. Go
figure. The instructors at that airport would not
let their students land in Petaluma.
My little strip was "normal" to us students and all
that were based there. And that included a guy with
a P-51. This guy always made the first turnoff.
Remember the road at the end of the runway....
Driving in for a lesson one day, I looked down the
runway just in time to see the P-51 lift off!! With
the sun hitting the face of the prop, it looked (the
disc) as wide as the runway.
Learn to fly from a small strip and you will never
Private Airstrip Zoning ...crabandy
It's really no surprise I'm looking to the VAF
community for help with this, throughout my build
and beyond the people ad advice have really made
things happen for me.
I rushed my "special use zoning permit" to the
county just before they shut their doors due to the
Covid several months ago. Depending on
weather/farmer/contractor I would like to break
ground next fall through next summer.
We purchased our property to build a house, airstrip
and hangar on. Now we just need to make it happen.
I've planned out the runway with a dirt contractor
who used to be on the county planning commission and
was also approved by the airport coffee drinkers
association. I'm attempting to do this right for the
long term, I want this runway to be there for a LONG
time and need the paperwork to be in order.
It's now happening fast, the letters to the
neighbors already went out and the commission
meeting is next week. We've already delivered my
wife's famous homemade cinnamon rolls and visited
with all those affected by the zoning change except
2 which are out of town. I think this portion on the
zoning application is a "go."
I'm not a lawyer but the initial planning commission
findings are very favorable:
Garmin G3X Touch Software 8.70 Now Available 6/8/2020 ...g3xpert
We released G3X Touch Version 8.70 to the software
download area today. Please note from the list at
the bottom that many system LRU's have new software.
After updating the software in the PFD1 with the SD
card, the display will reset, and at that time it is
best to hold down on the Menu button while it starts
up in Configuration mode. Go to the System
Information page on the PFD1 and watch all devices
completing the software update before taking the
PFD1 out of configuration mode and verifying proper
operation for the updated system.
What's Causing This Weird Vibration?
Since my OP last April, I've additional
info. Ideas, anyone?
The weirdness: a vibration suddenly kicks in at an
IAS between 90 and 110 mph during the [i]first [i]
of the day's take-offs. Nothing subsequent.
The Whirl Wind 74RV spinner has broken - thrown out
a chunk - twice within 700 hours, and the third is
showing damage. The spinner bulkhead is chafed on on
only one side, and after a few hours the screws can
again be snugged down because enough material has
eroded away from spinner and bulkhead.
What on earth would cause an engine to break
I've heard of vernatherm, governor, pressure spring,
sticky valve guide notions that seem to address the
obvious link between oil and under cowl temperatures
with the vibration; some sort of resonance interior
to the engine that excites the prop/spinner combo.
But, my goodness, all seem like a stretch. My gut
still says engine vibration isolators are not doing
their job (They are the Lord mounts with the
secondary internal cone limiting start-up motion.)
A 200RV prop Whirl Wind loaned to me hasn't altered
the vibration phenomenon. Curiously, Whirl Wind has
stepped away from stroker 360s (and anything else
with greater than 9.6:1). From their website:
"(I)0-370/375 NOT SUPPORTED"
So much would seem to implicate the airframe, but
I've dismissed that mainly over the temperature
issue - first takeoff only, and sometimes not at all
if temps are already elevated - and magnitude is
linked to power.
Any further ideas, brain trust?
ADS-B NO RADAR ...gharding
Can anyone tell me what the message "ADS-B NO
RADAR means? I am seeing this on my Dynon Skyview
HDX, in the lower right hand corner of the map.
Bits Plenum Fit ...SeanB
Hi. I'm getting close to the paper clip trick
with trimming my RV7 baffles, so getting close. I
plan to install my RV Bits carbon plenum, so I put
it on the plane for a look. Love the carbon!
But...the fit fore and aft is not good. Probably
half an inch off. Also, there is the piece that
steps out by the oil cooler brace. Not even close to
fitting. Finally, where the vertical baffles bend at
cylinders one and two, the carbon plenum does not
match with its contour. Anyone have experience
installing one of these plenums on a 7 or 9? Pics?
Thank you very much!
I had the same issues to start......
I wrestled with this for a good amount of time. I
even had multiple e-mails with Jan in South Africa.
What "did the trick" for me was to remove "both" the
forward and aft baffle braces, then it started to
seat in much better. Any small gaps will be filled
with the weather stripping you choose to make the
seal. And also when you actual screw it in tight.
The next, and much bigger issue will be the cowl
inlet to plenum seal. I designed a strip much like
what Vans normally uses in the area but, that comes
up much higher and wraps up and around in between
the cowl and the ramps. You install them "after" the
lower cowl is attached. I also used the oversized
oil cooler. I'll get a few pix posted here later.
All worked great in the end! Engine temps are good
and no issues so far........
Are you using the "stock" Vans cowling?
Tim, thanks for your reply. I also elected not to
install those two brackets. Seems the plenum will
provide more than enough support. I'll need to
investigate futher, but I believe the plenum flanges
may be at a slightly different angle compared to the
face of the baffles. This could be causing the
plenum to "push" away. I also don't know if I am
supposed to cut off the little extension for
cylinder number four area of the oil cooler brace.
Yes, using Van's pink cowling.
I too am installing a remote cooler, just behind #3.
It's the Showplanes setup with large cooler and
shutter. Using an IO-375 with squirters, so need the
The outboard baffles get a vertical bend on #1 and
#2 to taper the form for the intake area. The plenum
doesn't match well here either.
Appreciate seeing your pics and ideas. Thanks!
June 9, 2020. Issue #5,101.
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Tanks Pressure Tested! ...KCBerner
This is such a milestone that I'm going to revive
posting on this thread for the first time since the
guy pictured here was born! Both tanks completed and
pressure tested. I've been dreading how this test
could have gone since I started the build.
About mid-week, Andi and I decided we were going
to get out of town and head up north to camp, so I
searched for destinations. Bowstring is nice, but we
were just over there for lunch. Browsing the RAF
site, I saw there was a little strip up on Lake
Superior that looked like fun - Cornucopia. 2000 ft,
bikes in the shed, camping allowed, our kinda place,
so I sent an email to the airport manager, and we
connected on the phone. Gave me the brief - stay in
the middle - and avoid the last 100 feet of the SW
end - it drops off. He said camping was allowed, but
that the ticks were really thick at the airport
right now - maybe find a room in town. He had some
suggestions - they all know each other in "Corny".
Finally took my RV-8 up today! ...colojo
After a two-month hiatus caused by Covid-19
concerns, unsettled and windy weather, and the need
to get my condition inspection done, the stars
finally aligned today and I got to fly!
I only took one picture, but it's a beauty, of Point
Reyes National Seashore about 30 miles NW of San
New Project ...Lufthans
I am picking up this new to me -3 next weekend.
She's flying, but it's really a 50-foot aircraft. So
after playing around with it for a couple of days, I
plan to take her apart and bring her to my workshop
(which unfortunately is not on an airport)
* Polish all the corrosion out
* Fix crooked tailwheel
* Make new righthand elevator (some gorilla has
tried to use molten lead or something on a dent,
only to make things worse. And more flutter-prone)
* Smoothen all fiberglass wing/tailplane tips
* Try to get some dents out of the turtledeck (very
* Do a complete rewiring job
* Do a new panel
* Do a new canopy skirt
* Do a new windscreen frame
* Make the engine cowling presentable
* Pull all of the aluminum tape off the fiberglass
and paint it
* Put 8.5:1 pistons in engine
* Do an EFI conversion on the engine
* Catto prop
* New spinner
* New lightweight starter
* Ditch the generator in favour of an alternator
On the plus side: she's light! 750 lbs with an
O-320. And it's a -3B with new(ish) quick-built
Can't wait to get started!!!
Inflight Photo ...Piper_J3's RV-12
This morning's flight. Crystal clear blue sky.
Visibility just about unlimited...
Houston area monthly lunch (June 2020) (WE'RE BAAACK)
That's right, it's time to get this going again.
I'm putting the notice out a bit early for this one
since it's different from the norm. As alluded to
previously, this month I'm going to host at my
hangar at Sport Flyers (27XS). Assembly time will be
the usual 11:30, a week from this Saturday (June
I'll have a pile of ribs and assorted sides, plus
coolers full of drinks. I'll try and rustle up some
tables and chairs, but seating may be at a premium.
I'd suggest you try and bring your own chairs if
Here's the one request I have for everyone: Please
let me know if you're planning on attending, and if
you intend to fly in. The former is so I can plan
for food stockpiling, the latter is so I can figure
out how many neighbors I need to talk to to secure
aircraft parking. I can fit four, maybe five RV-size
aircraft on my lot, more than that and we'll have to
Just reply here, send a private message/email
through the forums, or text me at four2three 4three2
Street address is 4614 Windsock Ln, Brookshire. For
fly-ins, it'll be the seventh hangar from the north,
on the west side of the field.
NOTE FOR FLY-INS: Please don't park on the grass
without someone on the ground guiding you. There are
culverts on either side of my ramp that you do not
want to put a wheel into. I'll have them flagged,
but I'd still prefer to provide guidance. Better
safe than sorry.
Wing Root Mounted Filter Setup for RV-14/14A
...Aircraft Specialty (VAF advertiser)
After the recent release of the RV14 SDS duplex
cabin and wing root fuel line kit, we received a lot
of feedback from builders who were interested in a
wing root filter setup for the standard cabin fuel
We are now announcing the release of a Wing Root
Mounted filter setup for the RV14/14A cabin.
This setup removes the filter in the center tunnel
and adds a high quality serviceable filter in each
of the wing roots with a shutoff valve for servicing
during the conditional inspections. This kit is
available as a complete kit which includes all the
Cabin Components as well as the Wing Root
components. Or it is available as an add on kit for
those who are utilizing our Rv14 Cabin Fuel Kit, or
for those who already completed their own cabin fuel
June 8, 2020. Issue #5,100.
A 6-ship (5 tandem RVs and a Globe Swift) flew over my house Friday 6:45pm - some friends doing a
High School graduation thing over a stadium. They were waiting
for the TOT time and did a lap over my neighborhood. We
don't live on an airpark, or near one, so this was a real treat
to see from the back yard.
Thanks guys! 20 sec video
Hope you had a nice RV weekend.
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FIRST FLIGHT ...Lizard Lips
RV-14A, N468JG, matured into a real lady today by
making her first flight ever into the earth's
atmosphere. She flew "hands-off" from the very
beginning and the Lycoming IO-390 purred like a
kitten. She is now a "Real Airplane" ready to join
the ranks of the thousands of RV's that have
The flight took place at Gladewater Municipal
Airport, 07F, this morning at approximately 9:30 AM
CDT after two-years, two weeks in construction.
I'm not one to toot my own horn, but ...TOOT-TOOT
2020 Falcon Flight Formation Clinic was a SUCCESS!
The 2020 Falcon Flight Formation Clinic took place May
29-31 at KTPL Draughon-Miller Central Texas Regional in
Temple, Texas. It was an unparalleled success. After having
slipped the event from April due to the nationwide lockdown,
and worries over possible bad weather, we were treated to
the best possible late-spring weather; an outstanding
airport staff and EXPANSIVE large hangar, ramp, and briefing
facilities; and nearly three dozen pilots and RVs raring to
Ron "Shorts" Walker and Bobby "Luke" Lucroy led the
event, surrounded by Falcon Flight premiering our new
all-blue uniforms. I think it's best to lay out the event
34 RVs and pilots, some from as far away as Wisconsin, west
Colorado, and even Tucson. And Arkansas.
6 check rides
- 3 Wingmen check rides
- 3 Flight Lead check rides
Luke and Shorts earned their Large Formation Certifications
1 Red Scary earned his 2-ship solo
1 2-Ship wingman earned his 4-ship solo
4 new Red Scaries (welcome aboard!)
MANY outstanding safety pilots (thanks, y'all!)
Status Report ...RV7ForMe
Seems like no progress but I continued to
Countersink all the holes. They are done now. I had some
issues with knife edging and the cage wandering on me with
the first 2 #8 screws. I then opted to fabricate a piece of
scrap metal and hold it underneath so it would keep the
pilot on the countersink from wondering off. First used
aluminum like on this picture... then changed to steel.
Today's engine puzzler #2
I was inspired by David Harris's recent puzzler
-- and who doesn't love Click and Clack? Here's my
engine puzzler. Probably an easy one but I'm posting
because it stumped me for a while, and perhaps some
other engine-challenged folks like me can get some
benefit. At the risk of getting beat up like David
did, I'm not going to post the answer right away.
But it will be later today or tomorrow, or as soon
as someone gets it. If you're frustrated by that you
can subscribe to this thread and you'll get the
follow-ups in your inbox.
So here's the setup: at around 1400 hours the engine
began having a hard starting issue. Mostly it would
start right up but maybe 1 out of 10 times it would
just crank and crank. I could get it started with
some starter fluid (I know, not safe, but it did the
This is an RV-6 with Lycoming O-360 A1A, cabureted,
P-mag right side with aircraft ignition harness,
traditional magneto left side, iridium lifetime
plugs all around. I had the magneto serviced,
adjusted the carb, checked the fuel screens &
verified no water in the fuel, cleaned & gapped the
plugs. Checked all ignition wires with no problems
found. No change.
Then I listened to an EAA webinar by Vic Syracuse.
The clues are there, if you know the answer write it
on a set of James Aircraft RV-6 high speed
fiberglass pressure recovery wheel pants and send it
to me PO box [etc.] OR post it here :-)
RV-6 / O-360 / CS, 1500+ hrs, 1st flight Sept. 1999
My next EAA webinar - July 14th ...my buddy Paul Dye
"One thing that the EAA has discovered during the past
couple of months of COVID-19 is that their webinar series
has been a hit! Vic has "sold out" a couple of them, and I
did one where we maxed out the 1,000 participant limit as
well. I was asked by HQ (yeah, they're getting desperate...)
to do one on a "space topic", so we've scheduled a talk
about what it was like to be inside Mission Control during
missions of the shuttle era - and coincidentally (wink,
wink), it is on the day that my book is being released.
This is just a public service announcement for those who
want to register in case it fills up.... "
Shuttle, Houston -- a Look Inside Space Shuttle Mission
Tues, Jul 14, 2020 7 - 8:30 p.m. CDT
Presenter: Paul Dye
Former NASA lead flight director and EAA member Paul Dye
provides a compelling look inside 30 years of space shuttle
missions, relaying stories of missions and their grueling
training in vivid detail. Paul examines the split-second
decisions that mission control and astronauts were forced to
make in a field where mistakes are unthinkable, and errors
can lead to the loss of a national resource, and more
importantly the astronaut crew. This presentation is based
on Dye's new book, Shuttle, Houston, set for release on July
14 of this year.
RV-8A Weld Crack at #4 Exhaust Flange ...Joe
This is for an '8A, not an '8 or any of the other RVs.
Caught this on an oil change: my Vetterman exhaust developed
a crack in the weld at the exhaust flange for the #4
cylinder. Naturally this is the "busiest" of the four
cylinders' exhausts. :-(
RV-12 Safety Directive SD-00017 published: Check fuel return
line flow ...mothership
We have published Safety Directive SD-00017, which
applies only to the original/legacy RV-12 (it does not apply
to the RV-12iS).
This Safety Directive requires inspection before further
flight of the fuel flow return line to ensure fuel is
actually flowing through the return. This is a simple and
quick check and can be accomplished by the owner/operator in
about 5 minutes. No tools or parts are required and there is
nothing you need to order to conduct the inspection.
In the event the return line is found to be blocked, the
document contains the mandatory additional steps to rectify
Context: A blocked return line fitting was discovered on one
RV-12 in the field. Due to the potential risk and impact of
a fuel flow issue, we have issued this as a
before-further-flight notice. Performing the check of this
critical system is a quick and simple process.
Status Report ...David Paule -3B
Canopy Inner FLange
Back to the regularly unscheduled progress report.
Also, back to the canopy. In areas, the bottom edge of the
canopy was too much of a sharp edge to laminate fiberglass
around, so I took a two-fold approach to that. I formed a
flox bead there and then after it cured, rounded it. There
were places that now protruded too much to assemble the
fairing on, so I reshaped those with a more gentle radius,
blending it into the outer flange. Yes, I went back and
smoothed those edges.
In retrospect, flox was the wrong stuff to use here. It
would have been better if I'd used micro, since this was
nothing more than a bit of non-structural shaping.
With that out of the way, I taped over the area and prepared
the surface to lay up the inner flange. I'm using Aircraft
Spruce's crowfoot cloth, p/n 120-38 for this, because it
forms better. Since this cloth is only .004 thick, I'm using
six plies. And because it's warmer now and I'm still in my
busy season, I decided to do it in overlapping sections.
Here's the first. The diagonal white stripes are the ends
the short overlapping pieces of peel ply.
Status Report ...pasmanyflyer -7
More fun stuff added!
Took advantage of the sub 100 degree temps in
Phoenix this weekend. Yesterday fellow builder/pilot
Tom Velvick helped me reinstall and time my
magnetos. Thanks again Tom! FWF (firewall forward)
smoke system oil lines fabricated and temporarily
installed today! That completes mock up of all the
FWF systems! I won't torque anything until the very
end when I am certain that nothing needs to come off
or on. Pictures start from front right side
(cylinder #1) around the back to the front left side
June 5, 2020. Issue #5,099.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
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Usual suspects 52F the other day. dr
I was talking with Mel Asberry of DAR fame
Wednesday evening, and he told me he recently
counted up all the folders in his office (he has one
for every DAR inspection he has ever done).
The count? 975.
Let that sink in a bit and ponder what it
represents to the aviation (especially RV) world.
The thought did occur that if he does one each week
for the rest of the year he'll break 1,000.
That would be something nice to be able to report in
a troubling year.
Mel (and Ann) are RV royalty, I consider both
friends, and I still remember the things he found on
my RV-6 back in 2002 during her look-over.
Call Mel. He's in the Texas section of the
FLIGHT POWER SETTINGS ...Joe
Q: Passed my Airworthiness inspection Monday and
plan to make the first flight of my RV-14A Saturday. Installed is a factory
new Lycoming IO-390. The first few flights will consist of exploring the
envelope of the airplane and getting the feel of it's flight
characteristics. What power settings would you guys suggest for a new engine
during the first few hours? I had thought maybe 2300 rpm/23 "Hg manifold
pressure or maybe 2400/24. During this break-in period should the engine be
run "hard" or should it be run at low power settings? Your opinions are
RV-14A Certified Airworthy and ready to go
Panel Porn ...hom409
Gifting Gone Awesome ...bhester
Last week a fellow RV buddy stopped by and brought me
this gift, his wife took a picture of me flying over a few
Garmin Pilot v10.1 is
... for Apple mobile devices features an enhanced
document viewer, night mode for approach plates,
navlog printouts and more.
times as I've looked at it...KCBerner
I guess it shouldn't surprise me but as many times as
I've read this step (now finishing tank #2) somehow this
escaped me every time. I love finding these, well played
Cube Placement Locations ...bhester and various
The cube mounted between the fuel lines pretty
much just sits there. The mounting plate just
RE: Non-Advertisers Abusing the Posting Rules.
A special request....
If an aviation-oriented business that doesn't advertise on VAF tries to solicit your business or market/support their
products through the Private
Message (PM), email, or other features of the VAF Forums, would you
please let me know about it?
There have been some reports of abuse of the VAF posting rules lately
and I'd like to get on top of that (trying my hardest to run a
tight ship during very stressful times).
'Food cart in the parking lot example' described in the
I'd like to keep paying my bills and feed the fam.
Thank you as always and best,
June 4, 2020. Issue #5,098.
a part time contract pilot? How 'bout me?)
G-OGZZ Flies! ...Huskyhipdoc
My RV8 Fastback flew and completed test flight
schedule with no issues! Beautiful to fly!
My RV8 IFR Panel... first flight went well, flight
test schedule complete!
Garmin took me for a coupled ILS, procedure turn,
then flew the missed approach today. Great kit!
Albuquerque RVers to the rescue
Thank you to all the RVers who assisted me when
my RV was down on Memorial Day at KAEG.
My cross country trip from Florida to South Lake
Tahoe was interrupted when my starter failed while
attempting to leave KAEG. Then, minutes later, the
calvary arrived, when I see a 7 ship overhead break
with smoke. After their debrief, it was all hands on
deck. David Otero was especially helpful as we
pulled my plane to his hanger & proceeded to remove
& bench test my starter. Hoping a good clean & lube
would allow me to continue, it wasn't to be.
The starter damage was under warranty by SkyTek &
they have really stepped forward to get me back in
the air. They have agreed to swap out my damaged
starter. That's great customer service. I'l make my
way back to KAEG in a few weeks to continue my trip.
Gotta love this community!
Danny "RoadRunner" Landry
Speed Run Data ...RV7ForMe
Although Not building related but it reminded me
what a capable plane I am building. Went up in the
other -7A yesterday and did a 4 leg box speed run at
5000ft at full everything. I am a bit disappointed
it didn't match the VANS numbers but maybe I need to
do it again at 8000ft. 8500? at what alt are the
vans numbers done?
Vans Lyc 180HP M1B
Vans Hartzell 72" C/S.
5000ft density alt
RV 9 Inboard flap fairing issues ...DennisRhodes
On an RV9 or 9A there's a fairing on the bottom
side adjacent to the fuselage that covers up a small
cavity at the end of each side flap. This is close
proximity to the linkage that operates the flap
mechanism. The fairing for this area is a extended
piece of fuselage skin which must move with the
extension of that Fowler type flap.
After about 750 hours I began to get some vibration
noise from that fairing because its only held tight
against the fuselage bottom from the spring back in
the metal. I suspect the airflow is causing it to
vibrate against the fuselage and or flap bracket and
causing the noise. Also seeing some cracks and other
indications on this moveable piece of fuselage skin
was wondering if others have noticed this.
If so, has anyone just completely removed this
section and left the hole exposed. Or has anyone
come up with a better idea to utilize the fairing or
modify the fairing to get a tighter seal .
Interested in your comments or ideas for a fix.
My RV Weekend ...pilotkms
Sunday, Butch in his 6A and I flew from Perry GA
KPXE to Kirbyville TX T12 to visit with our RV7
buddy we met at last year's Petit-Jean flyin, Frank
Installing red cube on carburated engine ...riasbeck
I've been following the various
red cube threads for a couple weeks, but can't
decide how/where to install my fuel flow sensor on a
RV8 with a Lyclone engine.
Basically, it seems that these sensors are very
susceptible to heat and vibration. In fact Vic
Syracuse, in his most recent EAA webinar called out
a couple of installations that had it mounted to the
engine mount as a potential source of failure. So
I'd planned to put it on the firewall with a heat
shield between the gascolator and the engine driven
fuel pump with a teflon/SS line from the cube to the
engine pump, all uphill.
On the other hand, when I opened the package
yesterday, the instructions from EI said that it HAS
to go between the "last fuel pump" (i.e. the engine
pump) and the carburator, otherwise it may lead to
vapor lock and inaccurate readings.
I can live with iffy readings, but vapor lock got my
How has everyone with a non-fuel injected set up
done it, and how well did it work?
Erimo's RV Weekend
My RV Weekend ...WingsOnWheels
Took a friend up for their first RV flight on
saturday, had a good time and made a stop for
breakfast. Did the same with my daughter on sunday.
Status Report ...jcarne RV-7A
Oh boy, started the cowl a couple of days ago. I
can already tell this is going to be fun...
After a bit of sanding and trimming this is about
the best I can get the halves nested behind the
spinner. The flanges of the top don't extend down
far enough and I can't bring them together anymore
as the spinner area would no longer be round. Looks
like I have some flox jobs in store for the future.
A Great Idea For Displaying Plans
I put all the files together in a giant PDF so I could take them with me on
my iPad, then mounted a TV with a laptop in the garage so I could use those
and make notes on them digitally instead of having to use the paper.
It's so nice to be able to CTRL+F instead of having to flip through pages.
Excellent Video on Kitplanes: Shops and Shop Spaces
I just watched a great video on Kitplanes,
"Virtual Roundtable: Shops and Shop Spaces". These
guys put together a very informative presentation
that answers many common questions about the places
where we spend many hours building.
Dynon Virtual Happy Hour ...June 5
RV 7a Wash to NM and return, Covid supply drop.
We flew down May 15 from Eastern Washington to
Crownpoint NM/Page AZ to drop of reusable masks for
seniors and Hand sanitizer to Lechee AZ, and
Crownpoint AZ where my wife is from. Then returned
through Grand Junction Co, Moab, Utah, Low approach
into SLC Class B (cause we could), and returned to
June 3, 2020. Issue #5,097.
I received some nice emails and texts yesterday and today from friends
congratulating Suz and I on 30 years of marriage.
Very much appreciated and all saved. We are lucky
and thankful to have so many friends.
a part time contract pilot? How 'bout me?)
Show us your RV-8/8A ...sapeloson entry
My RV Weekend ...crabandy
My daughter and I picked up a puppy in Missouri and
delivered it to my Sister in Law in Louisiana. My daughter
was excited enough about the flight she was willing to learn
about aviation weather and help plan it.
Flywheel timer ...greghale
I've come up with a flywheel timing pointer that allowed
me to set the ignition timing from the top of the engine. It
clamps to the flywheel. You point one end of the pointer at
the timing mark on the flywheel, clamp that position then
move the prop until the other end of the pointer points to
the crankcase split. I came up with this to help in timing
my IO-540 with the new 6 cylinder E-Mag from the top of the
engine. It can also be used for timing a standard mag. If
the crank case is covered up by a baffle, you can transfer
that position to the front side of the baffle for the
pointer to point at.
Skin Deburring Question ...RV701775
On skins and other punched parts where there are curves
or bends in the punched area there are significant burrs on
each side of the curve that I am finding difficult to debur
without taking off quite a bit of material from areas around
the curve. If I use a flat needle file it leaves a notch
that could create a stress concentration, so I have been
using a curved needle file but it is necessary to increase
the radius to maintain a well curved surface. This creates a
slight hump. I wanted to get some feedback and possibly some
photos or examples of how other handle these areas.
Spark Plug Tech and Choices
I added to a prior post about spark plug heat ranges
after finding dry fouling on my BR8ES plugs in all
cylinders. (Compression is good, 76-78/80) I run an IO 320
B1A with dual LSE Plasma III and AFP injection with 9:1
pistons. I typically fly LOP. Klaus' manual recommends the
Denso IK27 which is actually a cooler plug that the NGKs in
there now (the 8 heat range corresponds to a 24 in the Denso
world). I wrote Klaus but, no surprise, haven't heard back.
Using the 27, or even 24 when already noting fouling with
the current NGK doesn't add up to me. While looking and
reading, I came upon the website for Brisk Racing. There are
myriad plug types and one that I am not familiar with called
a multi-spark plug.
The description is this: "they produce more than one spark
per impulse of the ignition system. More than one
simultaneous point of ignition results in better and more
spontaneous ignition of the air-fuel mixture. Spark Plug
sparks are not shielded by the ground electrode; therefore
it provides faster, unrestricted expansion of the flame
front. The mixture burns more uniformly and more quickly.
The result of better utilization of available combustion
energy is more power, better acceleration, lower harmful
exhaust emission and reduction in fuel consumption."
It says it is designed for high output ignition systems.
Would this be applicable to my set-up? Has anyone used or
considered this brand or specific plug before? I do tend to
overthink things so I apologize in advance. I am NOT an
engineer but want to learn and understand these questions as
they arise. It makes me safer and better able to make
decisions that are beneficial to my aircraft and flight
safety. I appreciate any knowledge from you all.
Thanks and be well everyone,
Looking for manf of mag synchronizer ...pazmanyflyer
Does anyone know who made this unit? No other marking on
the box. My Googlfu search skills aren't working tonight.
Wanting to find the operating manual for it online to verify
if it's still works.
Rudder TE Riveting Technique Question
First build project--having fun so far--but still in the
early learning stages.
Specifically, I'll be starting soon on my rudder trailing
edge. Double countersinking is done in the TE wedge, double
sided tape is standing by, and everything is dimpled and
ready to go as soon as I finish attaching the stiffeners and
shear clips to the skins.
I've been studying ahead to the trailing edge instructions
and have seen some warnings about the difficulty of
achieving truly straight TE's. Also seen some posts about
twists occurring in the TE as rivets are final set in the
double flush fashion required. Some posts have referred to
setting half of the TE rivets in one direction and half in
the other to minimize twist.
OK, finally the question: Since the direction of the shop
head is "builder's choice" on a rudder, has anyone tried
alternating rivet direction with every other rivet in the
TE? If every other rivet had the shop head on the same side,
alternating with manufactured heads would that not tend to
offset twisting tendency? Would it look lousy as a finished
Maybe I'm overthinking it--wouldn't be the first time--but
RV-10 Build First Day: Inventory Time Lapse ...Matt McCoy
Hans' RV3 - O-320 with a twist
After a hiatus of about a year, the withdrawal
symptoms from selling my share in the RV-4 became
too much. And so I have bought myself a -3. The
plane is in need of a fair dose of TLC, which I plan
to give it.
Coming from a number of Subaru powered aircraft
projects that are still racking up trouble-free
hours and outperforming all expectations, the
knee-jerk reaction was to lose the O-320 and put one
of my Subaru conversions on. But I really think I'll
pass this time and go with Lycoming. With a twist.
My plans thus far - and comments VERY welcome. These
Lycomings are new to me ;-)
1: The plane comes with a mid-time O-320 C3B. I
believe it to be somewhat of an oddball, only used
on a twin (can't remember which one) in the
mid-1950's. Old style parallel mounting points.
7.0:1 compression. Hollow shaft. Carburetted. I
don't fancy buying a new engine and then try to get
this one off my hands. So the plan is to keep this
engine as the starting point.
2: As much as I'd love to go all-out, paying 13K for
a C/S prop is not in the books for this plane.
3: I want to run mogas in it. 100LL costs upward of
$12 per gallon here, even in this economy. Mogas is
still $7-ish per gallon, but gets things within the
realm of affordability. Mogas here is 98 RON, which
is about 93 in US measurements.
So, the plan for the engine:
Take the cylinders off, do a valve job, check the
Change the pistons for 8.5:1 items. I was thinking
of the ASC75089F from Combustion Technologies.
(what's the word on their products?). I believe 8.5
is about as far as I can go with Mogas, right?
Do I need thick piston pins for these?
Then - Can I fit new rings, or should I then also
hone the cylinders?
Injection and ignition will come from two Link ECUs:
Each tank will have its own high pressure fuel pump
(preferably IN the tank to eliminate all vapour lock
issues) and fuel return line. Each side will have
its own fuel rails and fuel injectors. And its own
Each ECU will also run its own set of ignition coils
and (automotive) plugs.
Since you don't want both ECUs injecting fuel at the
same time, two externally connected switches (to
eliminate any single point of failure) will kill the
power to the injector drivers of one ECU at a time.
There will be no more fuel selector valve. The ECU
that is at play for injection determines from which
tank fuel is used.
Each ECU has its own battery en bus. Batteries are
fed from the alternator through a FET coupler.
So basically the only thing that is not redundant is
the alternator. I can live with this. If it fails,
I'll have two batteries to run things until I land.
If anything else fails, it will be on one site. I
then also lose the availability of the fuel in that
fuel tank. My flying is not between Iceland and
Greenland, so I can live with that.
So, to continue:
Now that the carburettor is no longer needed, and
carb icing no longer is an issue, I might as well
get those intake runners out of the sump and get
some cold air into the engine, rather than lukewarm.
So I'll weld up a new oil sump and new intake
manifold, with one big throttle body, and some ram
And yes, I know. There are vendors out there who
deliver excellent products for what I am thinking of
here. A few of them are even RV pilots. It's just
that after half a dozen engines (including a 600 hp
Ferrari V12 in a car project), I feel up to the
challenge of developing my own mouse trap.
So... What do you guys think?
Oh, and what power output can I expect? I figure
coming from 150 hp, the 8.5:1 will give me 160. The
fuel injection and more accurate and stronger
ignition 5, the cold air induction another 5 and
maybe a handful for better flowing of the intake? So
between 170 and 175? Or would that be overly
optimistic? It would be somewhat important when
ordering a prop from Catto...
Hilversum, The Netherlands
June 2, 2020. Issue #5,096.
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I'm Back From My Camping Trip ...roofus4
I just want to thank everyone who
helped me learn how to camp out of the RV. I had a
wonderful 2 week long trip. All the equipment I
bought as recommended by you guys worked out great.
Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL3 tent someone suggested,
I started in Escalante, Utah (1L7)
as suggested by a gentleman on this site. From
Houston I made one fuel stop in Double Eagle (KAEG),
before Escalante. What a nice setup. Along with a
nice campsite, they have a shower and covered
pavilion with gas grill, and running water. Great
1st stop to get my camping feet wet. I had the whole
camp to myself, and more importantly, the courtesy
car all to myself! I spent 4 nights there and did a
hike a day for 4 days. It was beautiful. Might I add
that May is a great month for Utah. No bugs, yet
comfortable during the day, nice and cool at night.
Then, wanting to get a little more hardcore, I flew
out to IBEX Hardpan to spend a night on the dry
lake. It was a very unique experience. It was fun to
land on such a wide open space. It was nice and
smooth, however, the chalky dust gets on EVERYTHING!
My shoes, my pants, my tent, my tires, my wheel
pants, etc, etc, etc...
Ok, Now here's the rest of the
PnP Flight ...mchargmg
We flew our first Pilots N Paws (PnP) flight this
weekend. We went from KFLY down to Sundance airport
(KHSD) on the outskirts of Oklahoma City to pick up
some kitties. The momma and kittens had been living
in an oil field, which is scheduled to get sprayed
with poison to get rid of weeds. So a local rescue
operation managed to catch the momma and two of the
We flew down to Sundance (quite a nice airport by
the way!), ate a quick lunch, picked up the cats,
and flew back. We were going to deliver them
directly to the rescue operation in Denver at KBJC.
However, the weather did not cooperate, so we landed
back at KFLY, and drove the kitties halfway up to
Denver, meeting one of the volunteers halfway.
Smoke System Fiddling ...RV6_flyer
I removed and sold my smoke system
but will comment on my experience.
Most smoke system sellers will tell you to put the
injection pretty close to the exhaust port on the
engine or where two or more runs from the exhaust
valve comes together.
I originally installed one injection nozzle after
the intersection of the #2 and #4 exhaust pipes
One injection nozzle on a 4 cylinder engine with
only two cylinder exhaust created puffs. Not a big
deal 75 or 100' behind the airplane but one could
tell at less than 50'.
I added a 2nd injector BUT because I had a heat muff
on that side, I added the inject port AFT of the
heat muff or less than a foot from the end of the
exhaust pipe. No difference in smoke.
When I replaced cylinders at 2,200 hours, I also
installed a new exhaust system. I put both smoke
injectors less than one foot from the end of the
exhaust pipes. No difference in smoke output than
there was before the change. Both injector ports
were a few inches forward of the firewall in the top
of the two exhaust pipes.
In other words, the difference in exhaust gas
temperature for smoke oil vaporization is not much
difference between the engine exhaust port and the
end of the normal Vetterman crossover exhaust
Now it would be nice to instrument an exhaust system
every one inch or so to get real data to actually
find out how much exhaust heat is lost from the
exhaust port to the exhaust pipe end. Would even be
great to just use a 2nd EGT probe in the same run
near the end of the exhaust pipe.
Typically the EPA recommends vaporization as the way
to dispose of the smoke oil we use. Injecting it
into the exhaust does the vaporization. The
temperature that the oil requires to vaporize is
lower than the exhaust gas temperature. Complete
combustion of the air / fuel change leaves little
oxygen to start a fire in the exhaust from the oil
Pic from Temple ...Nick
Roundtrip to Florida (again)...airguy
Didn't get any decent pics this
time around, but it was time to go pick up the 172
from Jesse Saints place after the new panel install.
My uncle and I departed Friday afternoon and
overnighted in New Orleans, landing at an almost
completely deserted KMSY. Signature did us a solid
good deed there, handling everything as requested
and giving us a courtesy car overnight because "ain't
nobody else here and we won't need it" - and indeed
he was right, the whole airport was deserted.
Ate way too much good food at Kenner Seafood Market
just around the corner, and flew out in the morning
for X35. Got the 172 and did several local area test
flights, watched the SpaceX launch (unfortunately on
the iPad rather than close enough to see it in
person) and then launched back for KMSY again for
the evening - for more good seafood and Signature
continued their outstanding service for us again.
Fought thunderstorms the whole way and snuck into
KMSY right between two major cells, and then fought
thunderstorms all the way back home Sunday morning.
Headed out for Lago Vista KRYW for cheap fuel but
the pumps were down, so we hopped to Georgetown KGTU
and topped off there, and then headed for San Angelo
KSJT to drop off the 172 with our local shop for
annual, then home.
New Lycoming XO-320-D2G available for immediate delivery
My RV Weekend ...ArVeeNiner
Flying For Breakfast-Covid 19
Style. I went on a short flight to CVH to give
some business to the restaurant on the field.
Although in that county you can dine at the
restaurant, I decided to social distance and eat out
at the plane. It was nice to get away for a bit.
Status Report ...jcarne
Another good day today. Got the
forward top skin fully riveted! So cool to be done
riveting the last skin. There were some tricky
rivets indeed and a big shout out to my dad for
running the bucking bar all day.
Here are a couple of pics of the action in progress.
Panel Comes to Life ..dreed
Still plenty to do, but panels first official
power up in the plane.
The LED's are dual red/white and in this pic the
dimmer is turned all the way up and way below sight
line). Did white only only in the baggage
compartment (may switch to dual
My RV Weekend ...cderk RV-10
Landings at KEWR, KLGA and a flight over Central
Spinner Doubler Cracks ...LordofWar ongoing
My CS spinner backplate doubler ring is cracked.
Noticed just as we were about to install.
Interesting thing is, the prop had a ring and reseal
done when it wasn't brought to my attention.
Miss Susie and I got married (30) years ago
today, and I'm thankful and grateful and more
Blessed than I will ever be able to even comprehend.
I thank God every day for my wife, our children, our
extended family and friends, and the businesses and
people who root for our family's interpretation of a
civil, non-political, hatred-free small business
where RV fans can champion planet Earth's greatest
hobby. To (30) more years!!!!
A retro shot which might bring a grin:
Spring Break 1986 and we were younger than our son
Tate is now. In my defense, Duran Duran was
the fashion and mullets were cool. You're
Hair where it should be.....none
where it shouldn't.
June 1, 2020. Issue #5,095.
Beautiful weather in Texas this past weekend made for a lot of RV
activity. On Saturday I started monitoring some of the
traffic down near Temple at the formation clinic (below).
I understand there were over 40 participants and I'm looking
forward to hearing about how it went.
Special thanks to Mr. Ed Hicks for a beautiful June calendar wallpaper
image and congratulations to SpaceX and NASA on the successful
launch of Dragon/Endeavour. Wow!
Hope you had a nice weekend and got to spend some
quality time with your RV.
a part time contract pilot? How 'bout me?)
James Walsh photo
May 30, 2020 marks 15 years since my first flight in RV-8
N898DK. I can't believe it's been that long. Fifteen years
ago, the 30th of May was Memorial Day and so it has been an
easy anniversary to remember.
There's a time for all good things to come to an end.
Time to stop the building; time to start the flying!
I received my airworthiness certificate yesterday, a great
way to kick off the weekend. Our local DAR, Richard
Ortenheim (Skyview Aviation, KTCY), had to drive over since
the field was low IFR that morning. We pre-prepped all the
paperwork via email prior to the inspection. The inspection
went well; no significant issues were found -- and all jam
nuts were tight!
June Calendar Wallpaper
...courtesy Ed Hicks
Latest Electrical Schematic ...mfleming
"...This version is close to finished. I replaced
the avionics relay with an appropriately rated switch (5A
draw). The rest was cleaning up the drawing and adding
all the fuses. All comments welcome..."
Status Update ...RV7ForMe
"...and here is the first thing that got build out of
scrap pieced of wood. This is my version of the rib
straightener that I found in the forums. It is supposed to
make this work much more "enjoyable". Looks like 11* is
pretty darn close. I may try 12* to see if that's better or
too much. With the saw I can actually just set it to the
desired degree and 2 seconds later ...How cool is that ?
RV Weekened ...DeeCee 57
Wind Whisperer N147RV ...newtech
Posting this for the owner that I am helping with the
build. THis is a quick build RV-7A that was purchased at the
60% done 90% to finish stage. Just posting about a major
milestone. Powered up the panel today so we could program
the GAD27. Pobably will be making progress posts.
May 29, 2020. Issue #5,094.
My Jeep threw an engine light four days back so I took it to the dealer
(my OBDII scan tool showed P0304 code). Related to
cylinder #4 (ignition coil, spark plug, cylinder, etc).
Turns out to have a slightly sticky valve and the cylinder head
needs replacing. Just under the 60,000 mile power train
warranty - it has 59,277 miles on it. Part on order.
Strikes Napoleon Dynamite pose and says "Yesssssssss". ;^)
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
a part time contract pilot? How 'bout me?)
A Tour of Ian Glenn's RV-3B ...EdH post/pics
"Always wanted a -3B, thought about building one... ended
up buying one.
Built in the UK by Ian Glenn and first flown in 2004, it was
his second RV build and a masterpiece of metalwork. It's
been perfectly cared-for by its last long-term owner for the
last 12 years.
Powered by a 115hp O-235, it weighs 740lbs empty. To quote
my friend who flew it home, "This a hoot!""
Today's Engine Puzzler ...DavidHarris
I had an engine puzzler that kept me occupied for two
months. I'll post the story and clues (and red herrings)
today, and then follow up with my solution and reflections
in a few days.
In March I received the airworthiness certificate for N47HM,
an RV7-A with a Superior XP-IO360 engine, dual PMAGs, and a
Precision Airflow fuel servo.
About 8 hours into Phase 1 testing, my engine quit during
stall testing (at the top of a stall at 48 KIAS, with
partial flaps). Much to my surprise, it would not restart in
the air despite playing with the boost pump, mixture
settings, throttle, and starter, and pitching the plane down
to increase the windmilling. I shut everything off and made
a forced landing on the sandy bed of the dry Mojave River.
Fortunately I landed into a good headwind, the sand was
firmer than usual because of recent rains, and I held the
stick full back, so the nosewheel didn't touch until I had
come to an almost complete stop. The aircraft was undamaged.
On the ground, I observed the right PMAG switch was off. I
likely bumped it while entering a transponder setting during
turbulence, although it is not impossible that I failed to
turn it back on after turning it off during my runup test.
I had been on flight following and had reported the engine
out to ATC. On the ground, I called the Victorville tower,
and they sent the fire department out to meet me. I jogged
about 3/4 mile to the nearest named road, met the fire
department and sheriff, and then talked with the FAA. All
was well, and they referred me to Jack Vanderman at
Southwest Aircraft Recovery.
My family came up to meet me. The area was dubious, with
burnt-out houses and ranches resembling junkyards. I found a
sandy service road on the riverbank that reached within 150'
of the airplane, and spent the night there in my truck to
guard against looters. In the morning, I met Mr. Depue at
Depue Airpark, a private dirt strip near Barstow, and got
his permission to tow the plane over there. Jack Vanderman
arrived with his flatbed trailer and aircraft crane, and we
spent about 6 hours winching the airplane out of the
riverbed, up the embankment, and onto the flatbed, then
winching the trailer along the sandy road until it was firm
enough to drive. He carefully drove 10 miles on Old Highway
66 to Depue, and the police car that passed us in the other
direction kindly didn't bother our odd caravan. Jack's
elderly father and my 14-year-old son both helped with the
recovery and it was quite an adventure for four generations
In hindsight, I would have done stall tests at 7000 AGL over
Dagget airport rather than 3000 AGL over the desert. I would
have looked for a dirt road rather than a riverbed. I would
have aggressively tracked down engine issues on the ground
before flying. I was thankful to have taken glider training
last summer and to have memorized the emergency checklists
and thought about them deeply. I was grateful for the help
from the FAA, the Victorville Fire Department, Mr. Depue,
and Jack Vanderman.
Two days later I went back to Depue, removed the cowling,
did a lengthy inspection, found nothing unusual, put it back
together, did a runup, and then departed the short dirt
strip and flew back to my home base at Cable Airport. Flight
I had observed some issues during Phase 1 testing before the
incident, and didn't troubleshoot them on the ground as much
as I would have wished because I feared long ground runs
while breaking in the new engine.
* The engine would sometimes quit during the rollout after
landing when I was at low RPM. I attributed this (not quite
correctly) to the idle being too low. Adjusting the fuel
servo idle to 900 RPM prevented the problem, but caused a
long landing, so I had set it back lower for further
* The engine was also sometimes very difficult to start,
even though I felt I was following the Superior and
Precision instructions. Sometimes I would have to prime and
crank up to 6 times, following the cool down instructions
for the Skytek starter.
After recovering the airplane, I contacted Superior. Bill
Ross, VP of Product Support, took decisive steps to help, at
no cost to me, and gave instructions for testing before
further flight. I wiggled the wires while monitoring the
LEDs on the PMAGs to verify connectivity. The grounds both
go separately and directly to the aircraft central ground
stud on the firewall. The power lines go through test
switches on the panel to a short shared wire going to the
main power bus. The kill lines go through the key switch to
ground. The PMAG LEDs turn on when the power line is at 12
volts and the kill and ground lines are properly grounded,
showing connectivity. Aggressively wiggling either end of
the wires on either PMAG wouldn't turn the LEDs off. I then
removed the PMAGs and sent them back for bench testing. I
removed the fuel servo, spider, and injectors and sent them
back to Precision Airflow for bench testing. Everything came
back looking normal. I reviewed the excellent Dynon engine
logs and observed 0 RPM from both PMAGs after the engine
failure, even though the prop was windmilling, which is an
indication that the PMAGs were not powered up during the
descent, despite have internal alternators that should
provide backup power. I spoke with Brad at EMAG and Alan at
Precision and both were very knowledgable and patient and
helpful, but none of us could find a theory that explained
all the facts. I was impressed by how all the vendors stood
behind their products and took the time to walk me through
everything even though I'm not a mechanic.
I reassembled the engine, changed the oil, replaced all the
spark plugs, and started the engine again. Starting remained
difficult at times. Superior confirmed from the engine logs
that the engine break-in was satisfactory and that it was ok
to do longer ground tests. I tuned the idle throttle and
mixture settings using a screw and thumbwheel on the mixture
servo, in consultation with Alan at Precision. I had a
difficult time getting the idle right; if I turned it much
below 800 RPM, the engine would quit at idle, while the
manual called for 700-750 RPM idle. After a bunch of testing
one hot afternoon, I finally found a setting at about 840
RPM where the engine would never quit on the ground at idle.
Out of an abundance of caution, I waited until the cool
morning to fly the aircraft. My son stood by as an observer
with a fire extinguisher, and I started the engine again,
but found the engine quitting when the throttle was pulled
back to idle. I spoke with Alan again and he was puzzled and
said there was no known temperature sensitivity for the idle
RPM. My son adjusted the idle higher. Then I found the
engine wouldn't start at all despited repeated priming and
Then my son told me he saw something. His statement was the
clue that resolved the whole mystery. He and I made a small
fix, and the aircraft has been starting, idling, and flying
well for two weeks since then.
Panel Finsihed ...KatanaPilot RV-10
Just got this photo from SteinAir. Looking forward to
installing the panel very soon.
Tank Rivets Seeping Fuel ...Jim Kranich
Q: I've been flying my RV-7A for a year now
and have just noticed about 10 rivets in the fuel tank are
seeping fuel, causing a bubble in the paint around the rivet
head. Most of the problem rivets are on the top side of the
tank and a few on the bottom. Has anyone experienced this
and if so, what's the best fix?
Can't speak for consensus, but the statistics are clear.
Paint blisters over tank rivets has nothing to do with MEK
application. Nor is it strictly a QB tank problem.
Jim, roughly speaking, when were your QB tanks assembled?
BTW, it is not difficult or risky to install access ports in
the rear bulkhead.
Dynon Virtual Booth Visit ...5/29
May 28, 2020. Issue #5,093.
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4-ship Fuel Run / Practice
Wednesday morning in nearly 00000KT conditions on
the way out. VIRGA in area and wind shear on
the way back. Lead changes, PO and rejoins,
yada yada. You know the drill. Good
times. Seven of the last nine days I've been
'simulated client #1' in the sim at the part time
extra gig. The RV morning was a nice change!
David Lee pic (my passenger - RV-10 builder).
Half Raven Install ...KHeidorn
I installed the half Raven inverted oil system a
couple of weeks ago. I had been avoiding aerobatics
until I installed this. The system works really
well. No more oil coming out the breather and going
down the belly.
The install was not too difficult, just had to
figure out were to mount the can and route the oil
return line. I put the can on the left side of the
engine mount and I ran the return line along the
left side of the engine, across the front, to the
drain in the right front corner of the sump.
Quirky Thing Seen ...Vlad the Amazing (RV-9A)
Locomotive Springs, Utah.
Airstrip ...Vlad again
Can anybody guess what port is that? It's not
designed for aircrafts of any kind.
makes Waste - Oil Filter Edition ...JKevin (RV-6
Looking for some advice...
I was changing my oil filter last night and got
careless cutting the safety wire to the oil filter.
I managed to tear the tab on the accessory case that
has the hole for the safety wire. So there is no
hole for safety wiring the oil filter in place now.
As a best I could do at the time, I ran the safety
wire around the boss for the oil temp sender. It's
secure, just not the way Lycoming planned it.
So as I see it my options going forward are:
-continue to wire around the base of the boss for
the oil temp sender
-JB weld a small piece of tubing where the old
safety wire hole was
-remove accessory case and repair via weld+drill, or
replace acc case (I REALLY don't want to do this)
-don't use safety wire - has anyone ever REALLY had
an oil filter fall off? Never had one fall off my
-something else I haven't thought of?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
FWIW O-360 on RV-6
Loss of GPS satellite signal while approaching in IMC
Since there was a tropical system overhead us
yesterday and the weather really sucked I went to
the hangar to do some minor cleaning. While
listening to the tower I heard a Saratoga on the
RNAV to Rwy 13 get cleared to land. A short while
later the Saratoga told the tower the GPS had lost
satellite signal (RAIM) and they had to execute the
missed approach. They went around in the clouds and
returned to Jacksonville approach.
Right then a Citation came on frequency also on the
RNAV Rwy 13 approach and was also cleared to land.
Right after being cleared the Citation told the
tower the GPS had lost satellite signal and they had
to execute the missed approach. The tower told him
the aircraft before them had gotten the same
indication and had also executed the missed
approach. I heard them go around in the clouds and
they also returned to Jacksonville approach.
A few minutes later the Saratoga came back on
frequency but this time "VFR" below the clouds
(clouds were now about 1,000ft) and they landed on
RWY 13. Once on the ground the Citation came back on
tower frequency but he was executing the ILS
approach to RWY 31. They landed on RWY 31 with maybe
a 5kt tailwind.
This is the 1st time I had heard this actually
happen (GPS unuseable for landing in bad Wx) with
one of the airplanes having to use the old fashion
ILS to land. Now I am REALLY glad I still have ILS
capability in my airplane and don't rely exclusively
on the GPS "Magenta line".
Moral of the story... unless it is a life and death
emergency situation, DON'T DO RNAV APPROACHES WITH A
NON CERTIFIED GPS!
Many First Flights Being Reported on Mothership
May 27, 2020. Issue #5,092.
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around Crater Lake and the Cascades ...mill2978
We took The Dirty Bird for a flight around Crater
Lake(first time seeing the lake for my wife), a
picnic lunch next to the plane at Sunriver, then
through some Cascade peaks on the way home to KMMV.
Going to rat out the lunch gang. Nor Cal guys
meet up at 2O1 for some long awaited socializing.
Update ...David Paule -3B
I needed some small jobs for a bit, things I
could work on for just an hour at a time, so I
pulled out the elevators and stabilizer and in the
middle of other things, for a break, have been
working on the tips. This was actually part of the
plan all along, to hold off on these until I was
working on the composite canopy frame/fairing,
because then I could do the first batch of the
fiberglass stuff all at the same time.
Today, I bonded the left elevator tip to the
elevator. Before getting to this point, though, it
need a few things. As delivered, the tip was
slightly fat. With the flanges nicely in place, the
tip shape protruded .040 or .050 above the elevator
surface, all over.
1. Drill and cleco the tip in place so that it fairs
with the stabilizer tip.
2. Slit the tip along its centerline with an
3. Make 1/2" squares of .040 for shims, each with a
hole for the cleco.
4. Test fit them - okay.
5. Fiberglass over the slit, so that instead of two
halves I had a tip again.
6. Drill the holes to #30 and dimple the skin and
countersink the shims.
7. Glue the shims to the tip, more for handling than
8. Glue and cleco the tips in to the elevator. Since
here the glue is a gap filler rather than structure,
it pretty much didn't matter what I used. But I used
the thickened G-Flex.
9. Rivet the tips in place.
Right now I'm at step 8 for the left tip, shown, and
at step 5 for the right tip.
The stabilizer tips, on the other hand, had the
opposite problem. They were too skinny. I followed
Wirejock's (Larry Larson) method and heated the tips
to 150 F for an hour, then pressed them on to the
stabilizer ends. They cooled slightly fat. I forced
them into the stabilizer and clecoed them in place.
Now they fit well.
SD-00001 for RV-12/12iS Reminder ...mothership greg
If I may make a point here: To state it plainly
and simply, this is exactly why we published the
Service Directive. The photos show a pre-failure
condition. It's not possible to say how long the
unit might take to fail, nor is it possible to say
why your servo is in this condition, but this
condition is exactly what was predicted and is the
first step in the potential series of failure events
that caused us to decide to take action. In the
safety and risk management world, we call your
investigation and discovery a success - It's the SD
process working as a preventative measure.
In case people don't take these notifications
seriously, this is a great example of why it's
important to stay up to date on your service
notifications (for any airplane type, not just
ours). I'm posting Bob's photos inline here just to
make them easier for folks to see. They are good
Cincy River Rats did an 8 ship Memorial Day
formation flight over Glendale, OH (Cincinnati
suburb). We've been doing this for several years.
This year was a little different. There was no
Glendale parade. Just the Memorial Service, reading
of names, 21 gun salute, and Taps. We made 3 passes
over town, then went out and waited for the call in
for the Missing Man at the end of Taps. Residents of
Glendale were told to stay home, but to go out in
their yards and look up. Timing worked out and the
air was uncharacteristically smooth. One of our
members was shooting video with a GoPro, but I
haven't seen it. It was a beautiful day.
The day before - Sunday - my grandkids came out to
the hangar for some family fun. We cooked on the
grill, drove around on our golf cart, Yahama
scooter, bicycles, AND went for a ride in the RV4.
It was my 6 year old grandson's very first airplane
ride. He wanted me to fly upside-down (I didn't). He
said it was the most fun he had ever had - well,
except for the Ninja Lego build he had just
completed with his Dad (my son). The hangar is one
of their favorite places to be. Mine too.
from Bay Area to Austin...ssokol
Not exactly the kind RV fun the OP had in mind,
but it works. I started out at Reid Hillview where
I've been based for the past two years. Flew down
the Central Valley to Palm Springs. Quick stop for
gas just below sea level then on to Deming, New
Mexico. From there a straight shot past El Paso to
Breakaway in Cedar Park.
All told about 9.5 hours in the air. Not the longest
XC I've done, but the most I've done in one day.
(Not sure I still had the RV grin when I arrived.)
Afternoon over the desert was bumpy, but the weather
was clear all the way through.
May 26, 2020. Issue #5,091.
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Latest RV Grin / Proud Daddy
What did you do with your RV Memorial Day Weekend
(5/22/2020 - 5/25/2020) ...SPX
Certainly some of us did something with our RV
this weekend!! Let's hear about it...
my wife & I flew up to Aircraft Spruce in Corona to
go get some RV wheel chocks. We went up at 4,500'
and it was pretty bumpy. Coming back home, I flew at
5,500' and it was much smoother. Quite windy both in
Fallbrook and Corona.
Saturday, I flew down to Gillespie Field (KSEE)
to help another VAF'er with some required dual
instruction that he needed. From there, I headed up
to Oceanside (KOKB) to get some "cheap" fuel
($3.80/gallon), then back to the hangar in
Today was motorcycle riding day, so no flying.
We have a few more trips planned over the next few
days too.. Should put another 7 hours or so on the
RV between tomorrow and Wednesday
I made a mess....
Saturday was a FLY the FAMILY event for Butch
Harrell in his 6A at Milledgeville GA (KMLJ). His
daughter and 5 grandchildren were passing thru on
their relocation move north to the DC area. 5 kids
under 12 - I flew over for crowd control. Late
afternoon the skies were smooth and Butch created
smiles on Maci-Kate
Am I crazy? Building an RV-10
I decided recently to sell my RV-14A and do
another project. The -14A is a fantastic airplane,
and I enjoyed the build and flying it (>100 hours).
I've decided to build an RV-10 for a number of
reasons. Of course some of this is just a need
(addiction?) for another airplane project, but there
are practical considerations as well.
I've been studying some RV-10 build blogs, many
posts on VAF, Facebook RV-10 pages etc. I am leaning
toward a "simple" build but I suspect I'll
eventually get seduced by some (all?) of the extras
and goodies - is there a support group for this?
I got lucky and found a QB kit (wings and fuse)
available from a builder who ordered but had a
change in situation. Stewart will deliver in a
couple of weeks or so. I did QB wings and slow build
fuse on the -14A. Not sure how I'll do the wiring
and panel. I've been considering doing my own wiring
(signed up for the next class at AEA). Panel will
definitely be G3X touch/Garmin as in my -14A. I'm
too far down that road to change, nor would I want
to. I'm wondering if Garmin is going to update the
PFD/MFD displays in the next year or two - seems
like it may be time to improve the processor
performance, but otherwise I'd be fine with existing
I'm looking forward to learning from the RV-10 gurus
and general experts once again and maybe even
contributing a little to the knowledge base
(mistakes and pain tend to foster creativity as we
Ship Flight in the Hudson River Corridor
Status Update ...rmartingt
Got the engine hung and found out I really did
need to make new lines; the first ones went right
through the engine mount (facepalm). So, I bent new
(stainless) lines and made some supporting brackets.
No pics at the moment, sorry.
Next up has been firewall Tetris. The following is a
rough diagram that's close but not exactly to scale.
Nothing is set in stone yet except the brake lines
and the fuel/return lines. Comments welcome.
RV-10 makes emergency landing on Monroeville highway
I got a build number today :-) ...Paul
Hi All - First post here after lurking, reading,
and learning for some time. I have been whittling
down my choices of what plane to build for the last
6 months and kept coming back to the 12 after
looking at a bunch of other options.
I hold a PPL and normally fly a rented 172, and had
never seen a 12 in person before Monday when I went
up for a flight at a club here in NZ that operate
After a couple of touch and gos, 1 go around (wow
they like to float if you are a tad fast!), a short
field take off & landing, a couple of stalls, and
some steep turns I was smiling away.
Needless to say I absolutely loved it and placed an
order yesterday for empennage & wing kits, so plenty
time to get tools and workshop sorted before they
So thanks for all your posts and first flight videos
which influenced my decision to go with a 12, and
apologies in advance for the no doubt basic new
builder questions that will follow from me over the
next couple of years
New Product: Carbon Fiber 6.00-6 Wheel Fairings ...VAF
Just in time for summertime back country flying -
wheel fairings for 6.00-6 tires made from carbon
fiber and room temp cure epoxy.
These have been in development for many months but
we're excited to finally let folks know we're ready
to go even though we're still finishing-up some last
minute details like finding shipping boxes
Ken Krueger - Aircraft Designer
Memorial Day, 2020. Issue #5,090.
The Mothership is closed today for Memorial Day. "Our offices wil be
closed Monday for the US national holiday. We will return to
work at the usual time on Tuesday. Enjoy your weekend!"
The VAF News is also observing Memorial Day and will start back
up with the Tuesday edition. v/r,
looking for commercial pilot side work...DFW
"We should guard their graves with sacred
vigilance. All that the consecrated wealth and taste of the
nation can add to their adornment and security, is but a
fitting tribute to the memory of her slain defenders. Let
pleasant paths invite the coming and going of reverent
visitors and fond mourners. Let no vandalism of avarice or
neglect, no ravages of time testify to the present or the
coming generations, that we have forgotten as a people the
cost of a free and undivided Republic. If other eyes grow
dull, and other hands slack, and other hearts cold in the
solemn trust, ours shall keep it well as long as the light
and warmth of life remains to us."
---General John Logan, General Order No. 11, May 5, 1868
May 22, 2020. Issue #5,089.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
looking for commercial pilot side work...DFW
Fly over for the Hospitals in Maine ...Dvalcik -12
I work for a Hospital system and took a personal
day with two my RV buddies to recognize the work and
dedication they give day-in and day-out. We flew
over 8 hospitals thanking the healthcare workers
during the trying times.
Round trip was a little over 200 nm around Maine. It
has been amazing the responses after we finished the
tribute. Many tears, clears, and joyful thanks from
the staff at the hospitals
Weather turned out great considering we planned
the mission a week ago with the Hospital. The
amazing thing was how nice planning was with
ForeFlight for the published times for each target.
Small adjustment but we were over all of the targets
+- a min.
I contacted ATC the week before to plan the trip
through their air space. They were great to give
assistance ahead of time and during the flight.
Thanks to Jim and Jonathan for their time, fuel and
The E-buss alt feed: a different idea ...N546RV
So I've been thinking about the Nuckolls E-bus
setup, specifically the handling of having an
alternate feed off an always-hot battery bus in case
of a failure affecting the main bus. Bob's setup
takes the same basic form everywhere I've seen it:
the main bus feeds the E-bus through a diode, and
the alternate feed is provided through a switch
and/or relay (depending on expected E-bus loads).
The reasoning behind the diode between the main and
E-bus is to prevent the E-bus from feeding the main
bus and possibly popping a fuse/breaker. Bob's
assertion seems to be based on an alternative
scenario where two switches would be provided, and
it would be incumbent on the pilot to ensure the
main->E-bus feed switch was opened before closing
the E-bus alt-feed switch, to prevent the
However, it seems this issue can be fairly easily
solved with careful switch choices, such that it's
not possible to have both feed paths closed
simultaneously. For example, if a five-pin relay is
used for feed switching, the main bus could feed
through the normally-closed contact, and the batt
bus through the normally-open one. The choice of how
to feed the bus is still controlled by a single
switch throw, the only difference being that that
switch position definitively disconnects one feed
while connecting another one.
Engine Rough/Rich? ...Sam Hart
I've been chasing a problem for two or three
years now, so I thought I would go ahead and throw
this out for ideas:
I fly an older RV-6A 0-320 E3D L-46125-27A with a
Marvel-Scheber Model MA-4SP Carb Part 10-5009-1
(nozzle drilled to 0.106 in 2002). I purchased the
plane in 2010 and had no real problems, but at some
point I have noticed that the engine seems to be
running rich because once I take off and throttle
back it gets a little rough. Leaning smooths it
right out. This occurs even at low altitude.
The only change I have made that is 'suspect' is
that I have installed the new style CAB from VANS.
The problem 'may' have started back around that
time, but I am not sure. My A&P went through the
carb and found nothing wrong. I am thinking about
putting the old air box back on as a troubleshooting
step (a fair amount of work).
Anyone else out there with my setup seen anything
Connection diagram for Vans analog fuel gauge
I have 1998 vintage vans analog fuel gauges on my
RV-9A and need to do some troubleshooting. Does
anyone have a description of the wire connections to
Metals Trending Interpretation.....bkervaski
Looking for advice!
Just had my latest oil report from Blackstone, my
metals are trending like the image below.
Note that this last sample was actually from the
filter, simply got distracted by hangar visitors and
missed my chance to grab some from draining.
170 hours on the engine, not sure why that's not on
there. Also, there could have been more oil usage
since last check, it says 1.5 but it's probably more
like 2-3, but certainly lower than previously.
They commented: "No one thing is terribly out of
line, but this is certainly a departure from the way
things were going, so it's worth watching. Any high
temps? Oil use is down a bit, so maybe metals are
just less diluted."
No high oil temps, things seem to be running quite
Being fairly new at what numbers are normal and what
to be concerned with I figured I'd get some advice
from you good folks
May 21, 2020. Issue #5,088.
looking for commercial pilot side work...DFW
After a too long of period my new RV7 took flight
this morning for a short shakedown flight. The 7 is
equipped with a Lycoming/Barrett 220hp IO390 and
Whirlwind RV74 prop.
Avionics include AFS dual 5500T's, Garmin 750,
remote Garmin 330ES, TruTrak Gemini 880, CO Gaurdian,
Garmin SL40. AeroLED's, VPX-Pro, Approach systems
Shortly after takeoff, I lost the oil pressure and
manifold pressure indications. I was sure the
problem was in the connectors for each. I rejoined
the pattern and landed. Sure enough the connectors
had come loose. They were fixed and a full
inspection done. More flying in the morning. The
18kt direct crosswind now is keeping me flying.
I cannot thank my friend Ron Moring enough for his
help and prodding to get the plane done. Also, Rob
Hickman, Tim Haas and Stein Bruch for their
continued help and patience while getting everything
Darwin N. Barrie
Conundrum: Too much technology ...ROSSIM
Over the past few years, I have updated my
purchased -6A from this:
and it has become a wonderful, fun, fully capable
airplane. There is not too much this airplane cannot
do ------ unfortunately, the technology has forced
my partner (a really wonderful guy who loved his
T-28, his T-6, and, our -10 and the -8A!) to not fly
the airplane unless I am with him! ("too many
So, I have three (?) choices -- sell the airplane
and get something more "steam gagy", trade the plane
for a basic 8/8A that someone wants to move to a
side-by-side, or---modify my panel by removing the
(wonderful) screen and put in some more basic stuff
-- and, yes, I know -- The AFS 5600T will display
steam gages, but that requires some button pushing
(two), and I also know that if I could get him to
train in the current plane for a few hours, his fear
of the technology would be tempered.
But, as much as I love the airplane, the way it is
--- I will do something to help my partner get back
to flying. So, right now I am looking at removing
the screen and using that space to put in some
semblance of steam gages surrounding maybe a G5,
MiniX, or a even a D3. No buttons would have to be
pushed and I would still have a capable airplane for
Anyway, something for me to think about other than
Stay safe, out there!
Weight and balance limits adjusted for RV-6/6A/7A/9A
We've published a handful of updates related to
weight limits on the RV-6/6A/7A/9A aircraft.
Change to Max Recommended Gross Weight for RV-6 (taildragger
The first published change is to RV-6/6A Manual
Section 14 (Weight & Balance). The change raises the
recommended max gross weight for the RV-6 to 1650
pounds (this is a 50-pound increase and is now the
same max gross weight as the RV-6A). Previously the
RV-6 recommended max gross weight had been published
at 1600 pounds. The RV-6/6A aerobatic limit (1375
pounds) does not change.
Why were these numbers different in the first place?
When the RV-6A was created (after the RV-6 was
already available), the structure was tested to a
higher value to accommodate the slightly-heavier
airplane. Structurally the two models are
essentially the same from a max gross weight
perspective. We are issuing this change to reflect
that fact. And yes, we do realize it's been 35
Removal of Nose Wheel Weight Limit on RV-6A/7A/9A
with U-00019 Type Nose Gear
In addition, the max nosewheel weight for the
RV-6A/7A/9A has been removed for aircraft where the
new-style U-00019 nose gear leg (released in 2019)
and engine mount are installed. In that case, the
weight limits are instead determined using the
aircraft's overall weight and balance envelope. The
new design was specifically tested prior to release
around a worst-case forward CG loading scenario, and
it was determined no limit is necessary other than
the standard W&B envelope boundaries. We stated this
year with the release but did not update Section 14
of the plans for each airplane, so we are
formalizing that now.
The relevant documents are linked below:
RV-6/6A Section 14 (Rev 3)
RV-7/7A Section 14 (Rev 2)
RV-9/9A Section 14 (Rev 5)
From the DAR Side. Gross Weight - Can it be
Rudder Bend, Need More Bend ...Mike G -8
Looking for advice on how to get more bend out of
my brake. The rudder is nearly there but I just
can't seem to get the final pinch to get it to lay
in the proper position on the spar.
With the rudder in the brake and just the weight of
the board, the rudder is perfect but as soon as the
brake is taken off it springs back to about 2" of
gap too much.
I started with 2 2x8" boards as Vans suggests. That
didn't seems to give me the results I needed so I
switched to 2 2x4"s made out of cedar, hinged on the
4" side so I was only using the small sides to do
the squeezing. That didn't seems to help so I tried
this final setup witch is a 2x4" along with a 2x8".
Using the brake I can push the rudder all the way
down until the stiffeners are touching the opposite
skin, so I can't physically bend it any more than
that. But it doesn't remain there after the brake is
I got to thinking could the vinyl backing be causing
it to not bend all the way?
I would appreciate any advice.
To Tailwheel or not to Tailwheel ...rockitdoc
Tailwheel easier to build?
More legroom up front?
Visibility in -14?
I'm mostly (95%) going into and out of paved
runways, so no real advantage, unless it's easier,
leg roomier, visibility isn't impaired, lighter,
faster, and uses less fuel.
Corse I've never flown one, so that's another reason
to do it!
Any MAJOR downsides to tailwheel besides risk of
nose-over on hard braking?
New AFS panel installed, special thanks to VAF'er bruceh
Today I flew my RV-9A back home after having it
down for the last four weeks while VAF'er bruceh
installed a new AFS panel in it.
We (really, Bruce) removed the panel and all
contents (Dynon D100 and D120, Garmin GPS 496 and
GTX 327, Icom A200, and aileron/elevator trim
indicators), pretty much all of the wiring in the
airplane, and fixed some build issues along the way.
RV-14A Richard in SE Va ...dbren
Well I took the RV plunge, bought tools, building
some tables and doing the practice kit. I also
ordered the empennage kit, so I'm committed. So far
I'm learning a lot about the tools, rivets, and
mistakes. I guess that's what the practice kit is
for. I think I'll practice some more before tackling
the actual kit. I will say the time flys.
Panel Shot ...Brian Perry
Here is a pic of my panel. I received it from
Steinair about 3 weeks ago and immediately got to
work. Steinair was great to work with and answered
all of my dumb questions throughout the process.
Dual G3x touch displays
Garmin GTN 750xi
Backup Garmin G5
GTR-20 Remote radio
GTX-45R Remote ADSB in/out transponder
GMA-245 Remote audio panel
IBBS Backup battery
GD-40 CO detector
Milestone ...mike newall
Went to 18,000' today.......
Just saying ;^)
Finishing Kit, Part 1 of 100 ...PilotjohnS
So it is time to start the finishing kit. First
up is the canopy. It seems nothing has caused more
trepidation from those who have gone before.
So I dive in.
The roll bar is attached first using special
spacers. These have to be drilled to match the holes
in the canopy rails. I drilled a pilot hole first,
then flipped the spacers over and drilled the final
hole from the "backside". I did this to avoid the
drill bit wondering due to the "split level" top
May 20, 2020. Issue #5,087.
G1000 to G3000 differences went swell Tue at CAE, so I'm qual'd.
Great instruction! I'm in the sim Wednesday as a mock
client for an IP in training. I'm expected to screw up,
which I can do all day long, baby!
looking for commercial pilot side work...DFW
Monday's Fuel Hop ...dr
Over to KXBP for gas in 00000kt conditions.
Woke up to (3) RV-8s in the local air, if you trust
the interweb, so it was out to fly before it got
bumpy. On the way back I went over a school
(SE of Bridgeport) where it looks like some of the
students have decorated their teacher's parking
spaces. Sure made me smile.
Wind Shear Video ...VAC
We were flying some AOA software tests last week
and had a camera installed to record the standby
airspeed indicator along with the normal forward
view. My home base is a tree canyon close to the
Gulf Coast 5 miles east of Eglin AFB in the Florida
Panhandle. Winds were light on the surface (80' MSL),
variable around 090 degrees or so at takeoff, but I
encountered over 30kts at pattern altitude. As I
climbed through about 3500' MSL, winds dropped off
to light and variable. This abrupt shift in velocity
in such a small altitude band meant the chance for
wind shear would be high during RTB, and sure
enough, it was: https://youtu.be/0RiB6_8bx3c
The important thing to note is how rapidly the
bottom dropped out in the transition and flare.
Stable is a relative term under these conditions in
a light plane. I was flying a slight fast approach
(high rate beeps of the tone) and transitioning to
ONSPEED during transition to landing. The AOA tone
provided good SA throughout, but it was sporty. If
15 kts of rapid shift is "severe" wind shear, this
event was close. If shear results in a rapid loss of
airspeed, it's called "performance decreasing" and
if it causes a rapid increase in airspeed, it's
called "performance increasing." The recent Van's
EAA webinaire addressed this and I'd recommend it to
anyone that hasn't watched it. If you'd like more
info on our AOA work, visit our site at http://www.flyonspeed.org
and Rob's RV Weekend
Rob visited from Texas and we flew in my backyard
a bit. Hiked the mountains then headed to Monument
Valley for lunch.
enters a new life. ...Seismo
It is with a sad heart that I inform the world
that N99PZ has been sold. 20 years of flying
adventures and fun surround that airplane. For 25
years she was a part of my life as the build started
in Feb of 1995.
N99PZ went to an enthusiastic buyer with many plans
for her. When we did the "Buyers Test Flight" the
grin was there. She wants to be flown and the new
buyer has put 5 hours on her in two days. N99PZ
likes this. Flying is what she was built for and I
was not flying her enough.
The new owner and his 17 year old son are both
pilots. They plan on taking N99PZ on many memorable
adventures as I and my wife did. A new chapter has
opened for N99PZ.
I am so Happy for her
Safe flights, N99PZ
N408ZW is painted and flying again ...mlinett
We painted it with PPG Concept and it worked
great. There was a lot of sanding and preparation.
The Invasion Stripes are 10" each. You can view the
videos and photos at this website.
Status Report ...jcarne
Onward we go!
First up, manifold pressure sensor, decided to put
it right there for easy access and close proximity
to the number 3 cylinder.
May 19, 2020. Issue #5,086.
Got an email from my ISP Monday that they are getting out of the hosting
business and I have until 9/10/2020 to get my data somewhere
else. Yay! More crap to deal with <rolls eyes>.
It's been in its current spot for 15 years (since before the
forums). The hunt for a new host begins.... I found
an article on CNET which lists the 'best for 2020'.
Eyes glaze over...
Any RVators work in the web hosting game? VAF runs plain jane HTML
as a front page and PHP / MySQL / Windows Server for the forums
(VBulletin). I'll need help with the migration.
It'll end up being a better setup with more stable tech, but
2020 is really sucking so far.
looking for commercial pilot side work...DFW
Ready for First Flight ...Karsten Lorenz
Now, after 9 years of building, my -6 is nearby
finished. Only some tests are neccessary.
Van's Announces Approval of Lycoming IO-390A for RV-7
and RV-8 ...mothership
Van's Aircraft announced today that we have
reviewed, approved and are now selling Lycoming
IO-390A (210HP) engines for RV-7/7A and RV-8/8A
aircraft. Support for installation is limited since
we do not have a FWF kit specific to this engine.
Many community members have used this engine on
their 7's and 8's already.
-3B Update ...David Paule
Well, for better or worse, this plane has a
canopy. After a few lost work sessions deciding if I
could form the inner flange before gluing the outer
one, and deciding the day I was ready to try, that I
couldn't - I glued the outer flange to the canopy.
I'd planned to glue it to the fairing at the same
time but realized that was unnecessary. So at this
moment it's taped and clecoed to the fairing. For
that matter, there are a few clecoes through both
the flange and fairing right into the turtledeck
skin. I had no other way to hold things in position.
Here's the canopy glued with the black electrical
tape still on. I removed the black tape shortly
after this photo.
Need a Gulfstream Pilot?
My friend James is looking for a job (he flies an
RV-4 at our field). Type Ratings: GV, GIV,
G200, CE-500, EMB-145 (SIC).
Formation Video ...SidVid
Nothing but 3-ship FFI formation on a beautiful
day, with (rather) epic background music for your
enjoyment. Hope you like.
Visited Blackbeard's island hideaway-Ocracoke Island
An amazing day on Saturday in the East brought
many planes out and about. The Mrs. & I headed out
in our RV-8 to Ocracoke Island, in the Outer Banks
of North Carolina for another fly-out picnic.
Saturday was the island's first official "open" day,
and folks were streaming out to the beach by ferry
and plane. The airport, W95, located in the National
Park, is in great shape, with room for a couple
dozen on the ramp with tie-down ropes. It was filled
to over capacity this day, with several planes
pushed onto the grass. Most businesses were still
closed and re-building from last year's flooding
hurricane. The golf cart rentals ARE open, and some
eating establishments have take-out during limited
hours. At least one hotel was open, but since we
didn't spend the night I did not ask about their
services. CALL AHEAD for everything, as this info
changes by the minute. DO NOT RELY ON WEBSITE INFO!
The little Ops building is back in operation with
WIFI. No phone that I could see. My Verizon iPhone
worked well. Two Port-a-Jons at the airport gate. No
We got picked up by one of the friendly owners of
Wheelie Fun golf carts..spent a little time touring
the town of Ocracoke, but very little was
open...they are all working hard to get things in
shape, though. If you're not carrying a lot, you
could get away without the cart...town is only a 15
minute walk from the field. We ended up having our
picnic at Springer's Point on the beach in the
speckled shade of knocked down and dead cyprus
trees. After lunch, we returned the cart and got
driven back to the airport, (no carts are allowed to
be driven outside the town limits) where we swapped
our lunchbox for beach towels, and joined the
"crowd" that was streaming to the surf, only a few
hundred yards from the ramp. It's a 'drive-on'
beach, so there were several trucks, fishermen and
families enjoying the water.
I would suggest a close study of the sectional,
so you do not bump into one of the MANY Restricted
Areas used by Cherry Point Marine Corps Air
Station...Osprey training!!! Use Cherry Point
Approach Control if able.
Flew a nice trip from Sacramento area to Yosemite
National Park. Half Dome and El Capitan looked
splendid from the air. Landed at Pine Mountain Lake
(E45) and Mariposa (MPI) for practice. Both were a
little tricky as they were buried in the hills and
had some gusty winds.
RV 4-ship into Sydney International ...newt
The Australian state of New South Wales
rolled-back their stay-at-home order for COVID-19 on
Friday, so it's the first time we've been able to
get out and fly airplanes in two months.
With the airlines all but shut down, there are
suddenly a lot of idle arrival and departure slots
at Sydney International. What better way to
celebrate the relinquishment of the lockdown than by
using one of them?
Eddie Seve spent several weeks doing the legwork to
organize it, coordinating with ATC, Sydney Airport
Corporation's media unit, and the slot admin people
at Airport Coordination Australia. Glad I didn't
have his job.
The result was a departure from Wedderburn in the
South of Sydney, receipt of a clearance from Sydney
Centre to climb to 3000 in Sydney's class C, then
handoffs through Sydney Approach, Director, and
Tower for a visual approach to runway 16R at YSSY.
May 18, 2020. Issue #5,085.
I have some sim side work lined up for this week (yessss!) so the push
times on the daily editions could vary a bit from standard.
G1000 to G3000 differences class on Tue and acting as a 'mock
client' for an IP trainee Wed-Fri (varied times). Spent
Sunday re-learning the (17) memory item checklists (my
cheat sheet) and going through flash cards.
Hope you had a nice weekend.
looking for commercial pilot side work...DFW
Hearts of Hope Over Augusta
May 16th.... This was supposed to have been the weekend
of the Atlanta Airshow at KFFC that our RV team had been
practicing for. Here are a few photos of what the boys did
Lobster truck flyin
Weather in the East was awesome today. Butch in his 6A
and I headed Northeast to Lake Norman NC, 14A . For their
Safety Directive SD-00001 for RV-12/12iS - Elevator Trim Servo
Van's Aircraft has published RV-12/12iS Safety Directive
SD-00001. It includes a simple inspection and modification
of trim tab motor units included in RV-12/12iS kits shipped
prior to the publication date (May 14, 2020).
Safety Directives are considered mandatory in nature. This
safety directive does not immediately ground existing
airplanes, but does require a simple inspection before
further flight and action to be taken at next annual
condition inspection or by a specified time in service.
Details are in the document.
Synopsis of what owners need to do:
Examine the stabilator trim motor installed in your aircraft
and determine which model is installed.
Examine the metal shaft on the trim motor to determine if it
If bent, order the replacement trim motor and bushing parts
described in the document.
If not bent, determine which of two trim motor models is
For the older (no longer shipping) model, replace with the
new model if time in service is 1000+ hours. You may, of
course, replace the unit before that time with the new parts
as well. Note that the Ray Allen Company, which manufactures
the units, has set up a low-cost exchange program for
affected units of the older model. Details are included in
the Safety Directive document.
For the newer (current) model, order a small and inexpensive
bushing kit which MUST be installed before 1000 hours time
in service. NOTE that Van's STRONGLY encourages installation
now or at their next annual condition inspection since it is
a simple, inexpensive and safety-related change.
Panel Update ...Draker
Well, this panel design has become reality. Thank you all
for the feedback and guidance. The panel turned out exactly
the way I wanted it!
Here's the result:
RV-4 and RV-6 visit and formation takeoff video ...rv8ch
Had a nice visit today from a couple of Swiss RV
builders/owners/pilots, Dan and Marcel.
I'm getting mine ready for the pre-final inspection, so I
was very happy to have some experienced eyes on my RV-8.
They departed with a really cool formation takeoff.
I hope one day it will be a 3-ship with mine in there
Build Update ...jcarne RV-7A
It sure has been awhile! The wife's business was one that
was shut down for over a month so there was no buying
airplane parts for a little while. Now that she is back to
work and I got my typical spring time itch back in gear it
is time to finish this puppy! (Seriously though, I don't
know why my motivation to work is so low in February...)
My Hoerner Batwings
A video on how I modified my Hoerner style wing tips to
Hoerner Batwings with storage..enjoy
Today's Top Tip: Sealing Cowl Heat Barrier ...goatflieg
I'm sure others have tried this, but I wanted to share my
Yesterday I spent seven hours cutting and applying the
aluminized heat barrier recommended for the interior of the
bottom cowl, which I bought from Aircraft Spruce. It is
recommended that the seams and edges be sealed with high
temp RTV, but before I did I conducted some tests using
aluminum tape. The results were promising, so I went ahead
and sealed all the seams and edges with the aluminum tape. I
used a plastic roller (bought for fiberglass layups, but
never used for that purpose) to firmly press the barrier
material onto the epoxy layer applied to the raw interior
the day before. When I used the roller to also apply the
aluminum tape, it worked perfectly to bond the tape and
blend it into the panels. I'm hoping the glue on the
aluminum tape will hold up to the heat exposure; it is
designed for HVAC applications so it should. In any case,
the results are far better than expected. It's been awhile
since I had a genuine "Yee Hah" moment in the shop... but
this was one of them.
My RV Weekend
Out with the old....in with the new.
In flight test of my autopilot installation, worked great
Preventing Rod End Thread Corrosion?
Heres what I pulled out of my rudder yesterday while
doing another repair...
The ever changing fuel flow ...bjdecker
Some background -- My RV-7 has a YIO-360-A1B6
with Dual Plasma III ignitions, Garmin G3X Touch
system, with the EI FT-60 "Red Cube" fuel flow
transducer located in the fuel line between the
engine driven pump and the fuel servo inlet, almost
the same location as per RV-14 plans (page 49-05).
Over the past 115+ hours, I have never been able to
get a stable or accurate fuel burned total from
flight to flight. I'm always adjusting the K factor
(mostly up) by a few % after each fill up.
For example, I started with 68000 as the magic #,
flew for a couple of hours with various power
settings, filled up the tanks - Pump at airport said
I burned 15 gallons, G3X said I burned 13.5, adjust
the magic number. Wash-Rinse-Repeat, Pump says I
burned 21 gallons, G3X said I burned 22.6, and so
Here's a picture of my installation. Any suggestions
would be appreciated.
RV-8 Wings Build Time Lapse ...RV6_flyer
May 15, 2020. Issue #5,084.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend!
looking for commercial pilot side work...DFW
Covid-19 Sanity Trip to the Pacific and Back ...james_bakeman
I was itching to get up and go after weathering another
long and cruel Michigan winter. My brother-in-law and I
headed out on a therapeutic trip west from Michigan to the
Pacific and back.
We crossed the mid section; Stayed nights in Rawlins,
Wyoming, McCall, Idaho, Reno, Nevada, and North Platt,
Nebraska. The weather was great the entire way until we hit
slow moving IFR in Iowa on our return, necessitating a
deviation north through Michigan upper peninsula and across
the Mackinac straits to return home to Lowell, Michigan (no
interest in flying across the Big Lake!).
This is my first post regarding this great plane: power,
speed, and comfort over the great plains, the foothills, the
desert and mountains and the coast: just a fantastic
experience the whole way! I am really looking forward
to more adventures this summer! - Cheers!
My RV Weekend**** ...TomVal
*I'm retired....every day is a weekend. <g>
I headed to the airport this morning with the best of
intentions...to drop the cowl and complete some fiberglass
work on the air inlet ducts. Well...that didn't quite happen
When I checked in with Charleston Approach for flight
following with just my callsign, they immediately gave me a
squawk code and never asked me to confirm my altitude nor
where I was going...pretty laid back I guess! So I flew
counterclockwise around class Charlie and did the beach
tour. Landed 1.2 hrs later.
Parked and de-bugged the -12, had lunch with some friends,
pulled the cowl, then went home. Fiberglass another day!
DONE........ WELL 99.99% ANYWAY......
New Kid on the Block
Just thought I'd introduce myself to this bunch since I
expect I'll be spending a lot of time here and asking more
than my share of (stupid?) no, lets say basic questions.
After lurking around, asking a few questions, and almost
ordering an RV-7 kit I finally bit the bullet and placed an
order for my RV-14 empennage kit. It ships today! I'm
Some of you folks have already answered some of my inquiries
and I've even had a couple offers to let me come look over
RV-14's here in Florida. Thank you. If anyone in the
Melbourne area has a -14 I'd love to hear from you too.
By way of that introduction, I'm a lifetime Bonanza pilot
who keeps his P35 here at KMLB. Lord willing I don't expect
that to change--certainly not as a result of taking on this
I stay instrument current since I just put all new glass in
the Bo and I love the challenge of weather flying. I also
enjoy working on my toys just about as much as using them,
which is why I got my A&P a couple years ago. Just for
My goal here, as mentioned in another post, is to have a
challenging long-term project and to hopefully get to the
point of flying it to build tailwheel proficiency and
explore the edges of the flight envelope a little more. Much
as I love the Bo, it's not very well-suited for either of
So, thanks again for the help and advice so far, and please
be patient with me as the questions start to roll.
If you're a 14'er in the Brevard County area, or if you're
planning a visit I'd love to hear from you.
Please critique my electrical diagram ...Keith Ward
I'd like to get some feedback on a wiring diagram that
I'm trying to finalize.
Full disclosure: this is for my Panther LSA build and not
for an RV, but I do think it would be applicable to anyone
that is at this stage in their RV build. If it helps, I have
built two RV7s, partnered in an 8, and helped friends with
two RV-10 builds. I also try to add value when I can here on
VAF. And, for what it's worth my engine for this build came
off an RV-4 that I bought from a fellow VAF member, so my
Panther is sorta-kinda RVish. If the moderators still think
this is an out of bounds post, then please take it down.
So here is where I am so far. I have taken the Aeroelectric
Z-11 diagram and changed it to include a B&C alternator w/
B&C external voltage regulator. I've also changed to dual
PMags and a push button start switch.
The questions that I have are:
Do you see any mistakes or issues?
Would you take any of the components that I currently
have on the endurance bus off and move them to the main bus?
Rationale would help for learning purposes.
How do I figure out the best wire and fuse size for the wire
that goes from the battery bus to the ebus switch (that wire
will be less than 12" inches in my application)?
Aeroelectric shows a 7amp fuse with a 16AWG wire, but my
equipment list for the ebus is different, so the amp draw
will be different vs the original Z-11 drawing.
Here is the link to my diagram:
Thanks for the help!
Arctic Flight ...A journey to Northern Canada's Barren
Vertical Stabilizer Forward Spar ...Jarrett
Just started working on my 14A empennage
and I seem to of already made a mistake... I was match
drilling the reinforcement plate to the forward spar and I
got to the hole that was supposed to be match drilled to 1/4
inch. Through my reading I've read that for bigger holes it
is best to use a unibit to avoid the metal catching and hole
distortion. I ended up going too far resulting in the
reinforcement plate being chamfered, and the hole on the
spar being distorted. Starting to question my choice on
using the unibit... Is there anyway to fix/adapt or should I
order new parts?
May 14, 2020. Issue #5,083.
The Tater had a phone interview with Lowes 1.5 miles from our house
Wednesday 0900 for a summer job (the chem lab is off limits for
the summer). At 0924 he texted me he got the job.
Orientation starts today.
texted me a few minutes later looking for an EMB-505 'simulated
client' for some IP trainees to beat up on a couple of times
next week. Some side jobs finally - the needle moves!
Wednesday was a good day, even without RV flying <g>.
looking for commercial pilot side work...DFW
RV-6A Status ...PaulvS
Started on fuse skins. It was quite a
battle to get the aft side skins fitted onto the
fuselage. Initially, the curved over section of the
long side skins was not rolled enough to properly
fit over the belly skin. So I clamped the edge of
the skin between some boards and gradually curled it
over to get it to fit better before starting to
drill it on.
Once the sides were drilled, the next challenge was
to eliminate ripples in the belly edge of the skin
due to some bulging bulkhead and alignment problems.
Thanks to VAF and some helpful folk I found a
solution, this took about a week to work out.
G3X Academy - GTNxi VNAV and Experimental Autopilot
Thursday, May 14, 2020
3:00 PM CDT.
As part of our occasional G3X Academy series we
would like to present a much-requested topic from
the crowd. In this webinar we will cover the basics
and operation of the GTN/GTNxi VNAV (Vertical
Navigation) feature when paired with G3X Touch
flight displays and Garmin experimental autopilot.
You can register for the event at the link
G3X Academy - GTNxi VNAV and Experimental Autopilot
After registering, you will receive a confirmation
email containing information about joining the
instrument Panel ...JohnD.TF4
I had an idea for a recessed or "tiered" instrument
panel if you will for an RV-8. The idea came from
military jets which have their PFD information
(usually in the form of a HUD) and a primary FMS
(knob, button, switch) panel spaced off of the main
panel closer to the pilot's reach and in the center
of your field of view.
I am also considering a recess or cutout for my
knees. While it's not a huge inconvenience, my long
legs do get caught up on the panel getting in and
Does anyone know of any RVs out there with modified
instrument panels with extra cutouts, angles, tiers,
etc.? I'd be interested in this kind of mod done to
any model RV. Pics would be great.
P.S I didn't know what thread to put this under, but
it seems like all of the panel nuts like to
congregate here so here goes.
Thanks and happy flying!
A: (AAflyer) Save our knees!
PM me for pix of my -8 panel mods. I'm
6'-5"...cut the few inches bottom off.
of the pics)
Borrowed Horse (Part II) ...Jaypratt
RV Central News!
My 2007 RV8 'Borrowed Horse' has been gone for a
year now. After 750 hours of pure fun flying, I
still miss having that plane. So...
I am building again. I found a Fuselage and
Empennage Kit close enough to take a look at. The
construction / workmanship are perfect as can be. I
bought it. It's here now and I'm on it. It
will need a wing kit and it came with a Show Planes
Fast Back Kit that I will not use. It's Uncrated and
So excited to have another RV! This will be my
5th personal RV build.
Reserved N6YH will be on the new 'Borrowed Horse'
N6 Yah Hoo!!!
New GRT flight data analysis tools (Garmin and Dynon
too, sorta) ...RV-14E
You can find my free public domain Microsoft
Excel-based software here and view much of the
information in this post with higher resolution
images and embedded videos.
Last September, I offered a new free tool for GRT
users to analyze and view their flight data CSV
files. I've since updated it. A lot. And for Garmin
and Dynon users, yes, it can look at your CSV files
too. But GRT users, with our nearly complete access
to EFIS data, get a much cooler picture of our
flights. Read on about my updated software.
My original program would take the CSV file recorded
from flight, calculate some statistics, graphed
various parameters and plot your flight in Google
Earth. Example of graphs shown below.
VOR antenna and my GTN650 ...tcoverst
Having trouble getting my VOR/ILS antenna showing
signal on my GTN650.
The setup is flat antenna in the copilot side
wingtip. BNC cable directly from the antenna (ring
terminal connectors) to the back of the gtn650 (bnc
It could be
1. The Antenna itself
2. The BNC cable run or connections
3. A menu item in the gtn650
I have checked the connections on the antenna and
they are tight and solid. The cable was continuity
tested when installed.
There is no signal when I try to tune a VOR or catch
an ILS. Its not intermittent signal, its just no
signal at all. The GTN 650 works perfectly for RNAVs
and other gps navigation.
Open to any input someone may have for where and how
to troubleshoot any aspect of this system.
Particularly, I am wondering if there is a gtn650
menu item that needs to be selected or something
simple like that - maybe the g3xpert can weigh in?
Thanks for any assistance or ideas you have. Its in
the hands of the braintrust now - no problem stands
a chance there!
Steinair Panel Switch Cheat Sheet ...Raymo
This won't cover all the bases but should help
with panel planning for many. Compiled during a
recent RV-7A panel build. The color column is for
the rubber switch cover, also sold by Steinair.
May 13, 2020. Issue #5,082.
looking for commercial pilot side work...DFW
My new to me RV6A, say hello to Tweety Bird ...Jr.
After starting a 7A approx 7 years ago and
throwing in the towel early, I finally was able to
pull the trigger on a flier. 2004 6A. 0320. First
time aircraft owner. Now I just need to get
transition training. 15hrs of it . Excited/nervous/
in disbelief I own and airplane now. Anyways
condition inspection due in July. So while I wait on
transitioning, Im going to rip into her with an A&P
and hopefully some help from local FYV guys and get
to know every nut and bolt ans system. Wish me luck
RV-7 vs. RV-14 Decision ...Florida Boy
So here's the new builder just
about to pull the trigger on a -7 empennage kit.
Looked at several, sat in a few, and even at my 6'3"
250lb size had convinced myself I could fit. Cozy,
Last minute doubts set in. The larger cockpit size
and MTOW of the -14 just keeps nagging the back of
Sure, I'll have to dig up another mason jar in the
back yard for the budget increase, but I've begun to
wonder if the comfort and overall usefulness for a
guy my size won't be worth the extra AMU's.
Looking for the brain trust here to help me out:
Anybody got time and/or experience with both the 7
and the 14?
Any completed 14's in the central Florida area that
would be willing to let me take a peek at their
Thanks in advance for any advice you'd care to
Final Test Flight a real winner!! ...rolick22
Here is the last test flight
YouTube video that I have produced, my hope is that
these videos where informative to anyone building a
RV-12iS or RV-12 Classic.
Happy flying VAN'S AIRFORCE!!
Lubricate Heim bearings? ...Aluminum
My search-fu doesn't seem to be up
to this task today:
Is one supposed to lubricate Heim bearings? If so,
They ship with a film of light oil, which may be
just a preservative. Is the bearing action designed
as steel-on-brass dry, or is this oil meant to be
replenished as it creeps out? Tribologists opine
I am currently paintinig but its
just sooo much work.. after weeks of sanding days of
wrapping.. spraying.. wrapping.. spraying..
sanding.. But it will look great and I am happy like
My RV Weekend ...crabandy
My brother has been furloughed
indefinitely, instead of waiting around he decided
to get back into trucking. He'd found the right
truck for $6000, only problem was he needed a ride
to go pick it up several states away. And he needed
to do it on Monday. A little planning proved it
could be done, leave for the 634 nm round trip at
7am and I could be back just in time for work at
Staring at the sun and making good time at 15,500,
we picked up the IFR on the descent to pop through a
500' layer and landed 5 minutes early.
Safety Wire Screw Clamps...Caummisar
While looking at a builder's website, I notice
he/she had safety wired SS screw clamp screws. Is
that standard practice? If yes, then why didn't I
May 12, 2020. Issue #5,081.
looking for commercial pilot side work...DFW
Service Letter and Options for RV-12iS and RV-12
Last week we published four Service Letters for
the RV-12iS, two of which also apply to the RV-12.
My RV Weekend
We went on a Covid getaway trip to Idaho! Next week
is AZ, NM, UT to bring Supplies to Crownpoint NM, a
small Navajo Chapter that has been hit hard
financially due to Covid. We are taking 250 reusable
Masks with HEPA filters, and 12-24 Qts of Hand
Sanitizer. Will be flying from Washington, Idaho,
Page AZ, Crownpoint NM, Gallup NM, Sedona AZ, Grand
Canyon, Hurricane Utah and then returning to
Washington. Should have a good video when it is all
said and done.
Got my collection of three projects, lots of head
scratching, RV engineering and Eighteen years young
aeronautical machine I call "The X" out of its
hiding place (my garage) for an evening jaunt to
escape the confines of my garage, home chores, CV19
shelter in place etc. I also though Mama would
appreciate a Moms day ride and a temporary respite
from the humdrum.
After a nice taxi out and warm up we departed,
climbing to an ear-splitting height of 500' AGL
(1500 MSL) and peered out the canopy at the green
landscape, lakes full of fisherman's and skiers
crafts whizzing about, all at a leisurely 2000RPM
(4.8gph) 125KTS. We returned to our humble abode,
admired our new plants from a birds eye view and
barely touched the blades of grass at our home drome,
another successful patrol in the books...
Took a lap arounbd Mt. Adams and Mt. St. Helen.
Went for an AM sight seeing tour of Mt. Adams and
Mt. St. Helen's, then a low approach at PDX on the
way back to KMMV.
Initial Contact ...bill.hutchinson
Hi there, VAF people.
I was encouraged by a couple of RV owners to read
and join here with questions.
I'm in the very early stages of identifying what I
want in an RV - the biggest decision has been just
getting to the point of wanting one!
I'm a part-time CFI and full-time cog in a large
software machine in the northern VA area near DC,
and I'm very interested in owning an RV. Right now,
I'm leaning toward an RV6 or RV7, but would go with
the right -A model if it presented itself.
Yes, I am looking for a flying RV - do not have the
space to build one.
I'm just reading and shopping for the time being but
I do have a nagging question:
How do you fine folks go about finding a mech with
RV knowledge for a proper pre-buy experience? Do you
post here, or in your regional forum? Is it
Wanted to say hello. I have much reading to do.
Please be gentle as I ask dumb questions.
RV-4 Panel ...Nick
Panel #2 since purchase. There is a blank on the
left for a Garmin AP Head and I need to label the
Annunciation lights. But it is coming along. This
one will be in until a G3x is in the budget
PA-28-180 to RV12 - Am I crazy? ...JFCRV12
A while back, I posted I was considering building an
RV. While that's still the plan, it isn't happening
anytime soon. I simply do not have the time. But I
do have time to fly. As such, I bought a Piper
Cherokee 180 in Oct. While I love the plane and it's
very nice, I'm seriously considering a 'side grade?'
to an RV-12.
Here's my thinking: My long x-country is from KHAO
to KUOX (Ole Miss). That's 442 SM and likely would
make 3 times per year during school year to visit
daughter. I've done in my Cherokee and it's simple
trip and very comfortable. I've yet to have someone
sit in my backseat..net, I guess I don't need it. As
I still plan to eventually build, I thought an E-LSA
would be a good way to learn into the experimental
world. Here are some brief pros/cons. Am I thinking
about this right? Understanding the forum I'm on, I
expect bias in the answers
Vans RV-12 - Pre-owned, it's a wash in terms of
acquisition cost vs my PA28.
Much lower operating costs (mogas, fuel efficiency,
own CIs after 2 day course)
Incredible visibility in RV-12 vs. PA28
Essentially a brand new engine vs. 15 year old
modern avionics and autopilot
Strong community and documentation (vs. other
Touch slower than PA28
2 seats vs. 4 and significantly less useful load
(PA28 is like an SUV)
Light weight means much more bouncing in turblence
TIGHT nonstop range to KUOX (est. about 17gallons
assuming no wind)
Higer insurance cost vs. PA28-180?
Probably my biggest concern is the tight range vs.
the PA28 and maybe the extra bouncy ride vs. the
Cherokee. Any thoughts from the group? Anyone made
the move from a Cherokee 180 to an RV-12 for non-LSA
related reasons? How'd it go?
Initial Contact ...Felipemg
I just solo'd on my RV4 (N7071J) and I'm new to
tail-draggers, 1,400 hr private IFR used to fly a
Piper Malibu where my approach and landing speeds
were much higher.
I'm amazed of how slow you have to get in order to
actually touch on all 3 wheels and I'm slowly
getting used to these new parameters.
I've seen on this forum that there are 2 lines of
thought on this issue, some argue to land on the
mains then to slow down to lower the tail while the
other argue to land on 3 even on x-wind conditions.
So far I've landed in nothing but calm conditions
and 3 wheel landings, close to stall speed, have
been relatively easy to learn but if feels a little
exposed in the case of gusty x-wind conditions.
Can anyone share their experience on this subject to
further my learning
Thank y'all for your help
May 11, 2020. Issue #5,080.
Susie's Mom turns 95 today. Happy Birthday Mrs.
Becker! I love both you and your daughter very much!
looking for commercial pilot side work...DFW
AX-O Visits Camping Friends (for a second) ...Justin
(note: no audio)
Trip to Replace my OSH Trip ...jhk770
This year my 15 year old son and I were planning
a "Father/son" trip to Oshkosh in my RV7A. Now that
AirVenture has been cancelled, we are still thinking
of some kind of flying adventure. We live in New
Jersey and we were thinking of a coast to coast trip
or something like that, lasting 7-10 days. That
being said, anybody that has done a trip like this
and wants to share their flight plan and cool
destinations or has ideas on where to go would be
My RV Weekend ...various
Changed oil then went flying. Landed on Ibex hard
Made the flight from Orlando to the Dry Tortugas
National Park before eating a picnic at X06 Arcadia
on the way home. Don't forget to call FSS to close
your DVFR flight plan as they will have the world
looking for you, at least thats what my friends tell
me will happen. cough cough.
My wife's evening jaunt. SC lake view and
Aiken, Newberry touch and goes before she took a
turn back across the lake to the grass strip in
Gilbert. Thank you to Jeanette for keeping our
RV-7 flying while I'm at work.
Engine momentarily dies ...Earl Findlay
For the last 25 hours, since I finished the
condition inspection, about five times now, when
cruising or descending, the engine stalls out for
just a split second and then comes back alive. By
the time one can react, it's back and purring.
I changed the spark plugs at the last condition
inspection and did a compression check (78, 78, 79,
80). Oil analysis was good.
Pmag and Lightspeed ignition.
Should I change out my plugs again? Or any
suggestions where to start? Prior to the RV flying
it's been 25 years since I flew. I have about 50
hours on it now. Maybe this is not abnormal and I
have forgot about it? Absolutely no other trouble
Almost There! ...jselvatici
90% Done and 90% to go...
RV-7A Performance Upgrade ...jhiggins
My RV-7A just got a BIG
performance update, and so I thought I would pass
along some of my experience with that. I've owned 3
RVs in the last 14 years, but I've never built
anything. I don't really consider myself a builder,
but more of a tinkerer. A year ago or so I decided I
wanted a kick-*** RV that I can keep for a long
time. I really prefer side by side, so that
eliminated owning a Rocket. I wasn't really seeing
anything for sale for quite a while that fit my
needs, so I decided to buy something knowing I was
going to do an engine/prop switch. I found a really
nicely built RV-7A with an o-320 and metal fixed
prop. I decided on the Thunderbolt IO-390 with a
Hartzell Composite constant speed prop. Looks really
nice under the cowl with the red engine paint and
chrome rocker covers, and chrome battery box. My
original plan was to hire out this work, but that
wasn't really working out very well. I had some
spare time and decided to just do the work myself.
It ended up being approx. 250 hrs work in all. I
replaced EVERYTHING firewall forward, including a
new cowl (horizontal induction), and even the engine
A few of the options I chose are: Earth-x battery,
to save 10 lbs off the firewall. One regular mag and
one Surefly. Vetterman exhaust, Avstar fuel
injection, Plane Power alternator. The Avstar was
chosen mainly to have a straightforward install of
the snorkel. And it was, just bolted up nicely with
no modification. I used the RV-10 oil cooler and
firewall mount (with 4" scat tube), and I ended up
using the RV-14 baffle kit. The baffle kit was
really nicely put together, however I had to trim
about an inch of height off the top of the metal
baffles to fit the RV-7A cowl.
The plane ended up going from 1078 empty to 1116
empty for a 38 lb gain. Weight and balance is good
as I didn't end up coming even close to the max nose
weight recommended by Vans (in all weight
conditions) and I also can load it up with a fat co
-pilot and 100 lbs baggage and not exceed the rear
CG. I plan on putting my smoke tank back in the back
in the future anyway (20 lbs) and this will help a
little with the nose weight.
I have flown off the 5 hrs phase 1 and everything is
great! All temps are cool, especially the cylinder
temps. Performance is outstanding. Acceleration on
the runway feels more like a sports car than an
airplane. True airspeed seen so far is 179 kts, 75%
power. I hope maybe to gain a knot or two as the
engine gets more broken in and I wax her up real
good . The best I can calculate I am getting at
least the advertised climb of Vans 200 h.p. website
Thanks to some buddies that helped: Brad Striplin,
Mike Quinn, and Tom Rood. I don't think I would have
attempted without some knowledgeable help around.
If someone wants to help me I can send a pic to you
that you can post as I have no online picture
200kt GS ...KJBSouth
Thursday 5/7 on the second leg of
a relocation from Michigan to Florida, RV7 N50KB
joined the club; 215 kts ground speed! There
was a 72 kt tailwind component while cruising on 59%
power at 14,500 ft msl.
Seriously Considering Buying a Built RV-12 ...Piper
I guess I need to jump in here. It
just depends on what you want to do in life... I'm
67 years old, been flying for almost 50 years, and
I'd like to fly a lot more before I have to put down
So, you buy a $60,000 used airplane that someone
else built. About the cost of a real nice car. Fly,
enjoy, and when the time comes, sell for residual
value. Try selling a 15 year old car. Banks are
paying <2% interest and the stock market just lost
In the meantime, E-LSA is an incredible value. FAA
allows self-cert health, you do your own
maintenance, take 16-hour course and do your own
Annual Cond Inspection. The only "hired guns" you
need are CFI for BFR and avionics shop to certify
Once all SBs are complete, the 12 is extremely easy
to maintain. Treat the engine like Rotax explains
and use Mobil 4T synthetic oil with 93E10 Mogas.
Rotax certified technicians at KOSH last year said
you need a very good set of mics to measure any
engine wear at 2000TT. No Top Overhaul halfway
through TBO. Water-cooled heads and heavy cast
cylinders stay "round" unlike air-cooled (i.e.,
quench) cylinders. Almost no oil consumption between
100 hour oil changes with Mobil 4T. Buy Tier-1 auto
fuel at Costco for cheap. Liability insurance costs
me $400/yr. No hull insurance - I accept that risk.
Did I say enjoy flying? So, you either sit on the
ground and look skyward wishing you were flying, or,
you actually do the deed. So far, I've been living
the dream. Best flights have been with my triplet
granddaughters. Grandpa - can we go fly in your
Status Update (RV7) ...RV7ForMe
Following up on post from last
year. I finished the Flap / Wig Wag Controller.
It is much nicer now. It took forever but I feel
like it is ready to test in the real thing. So far
it has been my daily passenger in the car. Pretty
good way to check GPS speeds and such. YES, YES, I
know I wish my car had wings too.
Since I wasn't sure what switch I like best I
designed it in a way that it can connect to both a
rotary switch or a Momentary UP/DWN switch. Works
I also have integrated panel position lights. That
will give me an visible position of the Flap
position selected. That is especially useful for the
I wish my airplane was flying so I could try this
out today... Guess I'll have to find a curious
fellow RV flyer.
What does it do?
-Reads GPS grounds Speed.
-Over set speed the landing lights will WIG WAG
-Under set speed the landing lights will go steady
-Over max flap speed the deploying flaps will not
work, but the will come up if you choose so
-Under max flap speed deploying flaps will work
-If GPS signal is faulty, unstable or not available
the systems deactivates and Landing lights go steady
on and flap deployment is available at all speeds
-It will read the flap position and give it out in a
format that the G3X system will read, eliminating
the need for another pos sensor.
(I assume it works on Dynon as well but I have only
had a G3X to test)
-System uses 0,09A at 13.5V = 1.2W
-System weighs 0.25lbs / 113g
-2x DSBUB 25 Pin (I used 2 pins per wire for the
high Power items)
-There is a hookup for an external GPS antenna in
case I want to mount this under the floor board next
to the flap motor. So that should not be an issue.
-I will need a box but my "el cheapo" china 3d
printer doesn't print any nice quality stuff. It's
really just good for prototyping. ideas?
May 8, 2020. Issue #5,079.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled
looking for commercial pilot side work...DFW
Days like these are why we do it ;^).
PTT causing problems ...Scott Hersha
Before I call someone at
GRT, maybe someone here can help, in fact I'm pretty sure of
it. On my RV4 with two GRT screens and a Garmin GTR200B com
radio, I often get spurious warnings, like "EGT too High, or
Fuel Pressure too High". These are visual warnings on my
EFIS with no oral warning given, and no exceedences noted on
my engine indication system. Funny thing is, this only
happens when I key my mic to transmit on VHF COM. My PTT
switch is on my Ray Allen stick grip. One wire to the PTT on
the stick goes to the -200B, and the other one goes to the
ground buss, located on the firewall, where all my grounds
are located, except for a couple out in the wingtips for
lights. Also, the CHT and EGT time graphs show a dive to
zero when I key the mic. Fuel pressure indication sometimes
goes crazy too when I key the mic. There is no noise in my
headset associated with this. Sounds like some kind of
grounding issue to me, but what should I look for? I'm
thinking initially of grounding my PTT to an airframe bolt
near the point of origin.
RV-12 Roll Right ...Jim Stricker input
I bought my 12 from
original owner with 48TT. The airplane had a small trim tab
fastened to the left flaperon with double-sided tape. It
worked but the trim tab looked obnoxious and tape isn't
exactly structural. I removed the trim tab and the plane
flew with a very heavy right wing.
I checked and adjusted the straightness of the upper wing
skin that trails behind the spar and also squeezed the
trailing edge of the flaperons. Neither solution fixed the
What I did find extremely effective was changing the height
of the flaperon pivots. Its been several years now, so I
can't remember exact adjustments, but basically what you
want to do is raise flaperon pivot on one wing and lower
pivot on the other wing. Perhaps start with 1/2 turn up on
right wing and 1/2 turn down on left wing and test fly.
Again, I can't remember which flaperon I raised and lowered.
No big thing - just note the change and test fly. First test
flight will tell you if you're adjusting in correct
direction. If wing is heavier in flight then do opposite
I believe I ended up changing pivot heights by one turn of
the rod ends. One wing one-turn up and the other wing
one-turn down. Plane now flies hands-off and ball is
centered in cruise flight. Deploying flaps anywhere in the
white arc is still hands-off level flight.
Significant EGT, CHT Difference Between C1/C2 and C3/C4 ...ssokol
In the process of testing
out my engine monitor (the one I'm building) I ran a
detailed log of a flight which captured some interesting
facts. Turns out that there's a significant difference in
both EGT and CHT between the two forward cylinder and the
two aft. Engine is an IO-320 160 HP.
Max EGT Values: 1042.52, 1106.60, 1408.28, 1403.06
Max CHT Values: 322.70, 358.52, 386.42, 379.22
I fully expected the cylinder head variance due to basic
airflow, but I'm quite surprised to see that the max exhaust
gas temps vary that much.
Note that those are the maximum temp values over the course
of a 45 minute flight, sampling at 10 Hz. The averages show
much the same:
Avg EGT Values: 870.57, 946.65, 1174.19, 1187.25
Avg CHT Values: 288.47, 317.31, 335.30, 337.83
Does that seem normal, or is there something odd going on
Canopy Release Discussion
I .... ended up putting the canopy release handle to the
right of the center stack and used a cable instead of the
supplied pull rod attachment
That was one of the reasons I chose to remote-mount the
audio panel, Comm2, and transponder.
A smooth visit to the FSDO...SPX
Today I visited the San
Diego FSDO for reissuance of my operating limitations.
Specifically, I needed this change to revise the Phase 1
area. Concurrent with this change, new operating limitations
were issued (I had the previous format), along with a new
special airworthiness certificate. The visit went perfectly
For those buying an RV from out of the area, this is a good
reminder.. in case you ever need to enter Phase 1 again, you
will want to get with your local FAA rep when you buy the
airplane, to get new operating limitations that cover an
area near you for Phase 1. If you bought the airplane 2000
miles away, and decide to change the engine or prop later
on, the previous Phase 1 area won't do you much good.
For those curious, the San Diego FSDO (or, my inspector,
anyhow) likes to issue the following Phase 1 area:
Southern Boundary: The Mexican border from 116 degrees 0
minutes west longitude to the intersection with the 200
radial of the Julian VOR. Special care shall be taken to
avoid Mexican airspace.
Eastern Boundary: Along 116 degrees 0 minutes longitude
Northern Boundary: Along 33 degrees 30 minutes latitude
Western Boundary: A line connecting the following radial
points from the Julian VOR:
200 degrees at 49.5 statute miles to a point
190 degrees at 24 statute miles to a point
230 degrees at 24 statute miles to a point
265 degrees at 26 statute miles to a point
270 degrees at 42 statute miles to a point
290 degrees at 45.5 statute miles.
Excluding flight over any densely populated area.
Engine Oil Cooler Exit Pics ...various
I am curious to see some
photos of what folks have done with the exit of oil coolers
mounted behind the rear cylinder on an installation with
plenums vs baffling. I have been reading about diffusers,
ducting via scat, "do nothing", etc am looking for best
Kavlico Pressure Sensor Inspection
Advanced Flight Systems
May 7, 2020. Issue #5,078.
a contract pilot or right-seater?...DFW
Practicing Rolling [Half] Circles ...1flyingyogi
My first few
attempts at rolling circles in the RV. I've done a
few in the Laser as well, and it's definitely more
work and harder doing it in the RV.
For the non-aerobatic crowd, rolling circles are
continuous rolls done around a circle on the
horizontal plane. It's challenging coordination and
orientation-wise, but it's fun!
*****OPERATION CHARLIE 19 at Inyokern Airport (IYK).
Inyokern airport (IYK)
inyokernairport.com is proud to announce it will be
selling 100LL aviation fuel for $1.19 per gallon
from May 7, 2020 until May 11, 2020 or until 4019
gallons are sold.
These sales will only take place from 7:19am until
6:19pm daily after that time fuel reverts back to
the normal price of $4.40 the limit on purchasing
fuel at this price is 119 gallons per
person/aircraft. Twins and Warbirds please call in
advance (760)377-5844 if you think you will need
more than 119 gallons.
No filling up of gas cans will be allowed or putting
gas in automobiles.
The airport office will remain closed during this
time and social distancing and government and state
rules would be greatly appreciated.
Restrooms will be available. Please bring your own
TP (just kidding).
Water will be available and there are plenty of
local restaurants that will deliver to airport.
Inyokern airport would like to thank its tenants and
all general aviation users during this crisis by
encouraging them to get in their aircraft and fly!
First flight of the first RV10 in China ...Shawn Li
Glad to report the
successful first flight of the first RV10 built in
China. I was one of the two crews for the first
flight. The Chinese regulation allows more than one
test crews that are necessary for the test flights.
The first flight was a bit short due to high CHT
temperature, reaching 430F so we landed in about 20
min. After about 5 hours further flight in three
days, all squawks are fixed. The RV10 flies really
nice now. Here are some pictures from the test
flights. There is a RV14 almost complete. Hope to
see more RVs, and experimental aircraft in general,
Airplane Mistakes and Lessons ...tjo entry
It's amazing how
much cognitive ability you lose when stressed. Back
when I had maybe 150 hrs, I was asked to fly my
Cessna 150 over to PDX for a Horizon Air sponsored
Boy and Girl Scout aviation day. No problem, I said,
but inside was really stressed about landing at PDX.
Flight over went great, day went great, but winds
picking up in the afternoon to gusting to 19kt
crosswind had me nervous. Did my preflight, weather
check, etc, distracted by the stress of navigating
around the airport amongst the big boys, and dealing
with the wind. Managed to communicate well enough to
get all the way to the hold short line and was
instructed to "position and hold". At that time, I
had no idea what that meant, so I asked. The reply
was to "disregard and hold position", rather
gruffly. At this time the radio chatter was coming
hard and fast (at least to a relative newbie used to
uncontrolled airports). It is now about 4:30 in the
afternoon and the airport was getting busy with
incoming traffic. OK, I'll just wait. After the
departing plane was gone, and another landed, and
traffic was stacking up behind me, I was cleared for
takeoff! Cool, finally out of here... except as soon
as I started my takeoff run, the oil check door
started flapping in the breeze pretty violently!
****, I got on the radio and told them I had an
issue and exited the runway at the first exit.
Handed off to ground for coordination. Now, I'm a
gnat on a huge piece of asphalt with big boys all
around and no idea where I am or where to go... Got
out of the plane (copilot holding the brakes), got
the door closed up, got back in line worried about
getting blown into next week by someone's exhaust
blast, finally make it back to the hold short line.
This time, the clearance was "cleared for takeoff,
no delay". OK, you don't have to tell me twice; it
was pretty much full throttle from the line and off
as soon as I could get the thing in the air. At
about 200' AGL on runway 10L I was instructed to
"turn left to 010"... in other words, "get lost
Stressful, but I've never left the door open again!
Panel Porn ...fresh off SteinAir's bench
Here's our G3X panel that was just shipped the end
of last week from SteinAir. Needless to say SteinAir
was absolutely fantastic to work with (again) and
their workmanship is outstanding. Here are a few
details about the panel and electrical system:
Kavlico Pressure Sensor Inspection
Advanced Flight Systems, etc.....)
Curves, a Hat
Sighting, Gas and a Stearman
Flew over to
Bridgeport for gas Wednesday ($3.40). Light
wind from the N so a tight constant-curve
(hopefully) descending turn to a ten foot square
centered on the numbers. Drawn to that curve
and the last 20 seconds or so of a landing.
All nine brain cells humming away and focused as I
can make it. Really, really
enjoy that feeling. No wind makes it that much
more enjoyable. Never perfect - always trying
to improve. I think I would have liked landing
on a carrier. In the daytime...
'42 Stearman at the
pump so a pic and some gas. Passed said
Stearman on the way back to 52F, overhead for RWY 35
and another stab at a nice curve with minimal
landing distance. The ground track shows room
for improvement, but I did make the Charlie turnoff.
Scratches the right itch...for a day or so.
May 6, 2020. Issue #5,077.
a contract pilot or right-seater?...DFW
Touch & Go - LaGuardia, JFK, Teterboro, Newark Liberty,
and Hudson River Corridor 05/02/2020
(Tim's RV-10 Blog)
With Sun N Fun cancelled and Oshkosh not happening
this year I figured it was time to make use of the
Covid 19 pandemic and capitalize on some airspace
that would typically not be available for pattern
work. Without a destination to land and stay at,
what better place to go than New York!
unfamiliar (as I was previously) with the airspace
in and around NYC there is a 20 minute ALC-79: New
York City Special Flight Rules Area (SFRA) course
the FAA requires that you take prior to entering the
area. The course is well put together and was
created after a 2009 mid-air between a Eurocopter
and a PA32R-300. The course is very informative and
a worth while use of your time. The FAA also
supplies a kneeboard printout to help identify the
mandatory reporting points for those interested in
flying the New York Class B Airspace Hudson River
Exclusion Special Flight Rules Area (SFRA). This
corridor is where you will be flying if you want to
circle the Statue of Liberty.
Malformed nose skin dimple update ...Jskyking
carefully flattened dimple w/ DDRT2, drilled with
#30 with a slight circular rotation of the drill bit
to clean the slight crack, re-dimpled with #30 die,
dropped in a #30 rivet...... drilled another #40
hole and dimpled equidistant to next rivet and put a
#40 in the hole. I would have put another #40
equidistant on the other side of the repaired hole,
but it fell on on a flute. Vans said I would be
alright to not put any additional rivets in beside
the affected mis- dimpled hole, but one or two
rivets was very acceptable..... building on.
Ground Shot ...rv3pilot
From the 'Dumbest...' Thread
A good while ago when they were still doing
"position and hold" at class D towered airports, a
friend of mine, Larry, was given such an instruction
so he taxied onto a runway. Another airplane missed
the turn off on his landing roll which meant he had
to taxi all the way to the end of the runway and he
wasn't being quick about it, so my friend sat there
on the centerline in his Bonanza.
A student pilot in a C172 was on final. Remember
Larry is holding on the runway. Paraphrasing the
Tower: "Cessna XXX go around"
Cessna: "Cessna XXX going around"
Some time passes.
Tower: "Cessna XXX, GO AROUND"
Cessna: "Cessna XXX is going around"
A little more time.
Tower: "Cessna XXX, GO AROUND NOW, make right
Cessna: "Cessna XXX, I'm going around the right"
As Larry told the story, he was getting
understandably nervous. He said he looks out and
just about ground level the Cessna passes him on the
right, re-aligns with the runway, and lands.
May/June 2020 FAA Safety
Flap Notch Size and PIREP (RV-4)....smokyray
I built and started
flying my Four back when we had to shoo Dinosaurs
off the taxiways to go fly. The RV4 plans (if you
built yours)have a great description and drawing of
the front seat back flap notch block the handle
seats into when you lift it.
If the notches are small per the plans, I found
that final approach speed faster than 60 Knots would
"pop" it out of the second notch, hence retracting
the flaps. Being an F16 Pilot, I'm good with it
as it does essentially the same thing with hydraulic
I started experimenting with slower approach speeds
which took practice with my Sterba "big bite" wood
prop. I found that slowing to 65Knots (70mph) on
downwind and trim almost full aft the RV4 would get
into a "groove" where you control aimpoint with
pitch and sink rate with power. At 60 Knots, power
on and a fairly nose high approach the airplane
would not float and you literally could fly it right
to the ground, flaps fully extended.
The best part was my flaps stayed down and I could
now quickly retract them for proper STOL quick stop
technique. I also made a few small adjustments to my
flap handle to keep it where I put it, mainly filing
it with a more pronounced notch.
Email me offline if you have any questions...
Fuse Outboard Rib Fluting? F-1018 ...bkmerrill RV-10
26-5 Step 1 calls
for fluting the F-1015 ribs, which I did no
problems. It does not call for fluting the F-1018
rib (next further aft outboard rib) to match the
curve in the bottom skin holes. I am now clecoing on
the bottom skin and finding the holes do not align.
I can get the clecos in going one at a time, but the
rib begins to pucker/flute itself. Anyone else have
this issue? Should I just flute the rib flange? Only
concern with doing so is shrinking the overall
length causing a different issue. Before doing so
wanted to check with the trusty VAF.
Hat Sighting in its
(Monday) In the
sky, in an RV!
Bumpier and hotter
(91*F) than in the ski boat below,
but off the surface for .3 in an RV ......so we're all happy. Working the
punch out list and thinking about the next thing (prol
May 5, 2020. Issue #5,076.
a contract pilot or right-seater?...DFW
Another RV grin ...Matt Ziemann
After almost 4 years I finally got to take my
daughter up. We'd been taking it slow---me not
pushing it. She likes to taxi with me and loves
talking through her headset, but anytime I'd ask if
she wanted to go up she demurred and said she'd do
it when she turned 4 or 5. On Friday, after riding
with me to get gas, she asked if we could "go up
above the trees". It was one of those absolutely
perfect days--late day sun, beautiful skies, calm
air, and just happened to take off after two of her
other favorite planes on the field: a yellow Piper
Cub and a red Fokker biplane. It was right in that
golden hour before sunset when the shadows are long
and everything looks so sharp. On takeoff she said
"this is fun!" Of course her first flight had to be
on the grass runway, and on landing: "I loved that!"
Afterwards we got ice cream...and she asked to go
again the next day. Another RV grin...
First Flight of another kind. ...ty1295
Today was the 2nd biggest day of my fairly new
RV-9A. Approx 6 years ago I met my now wife. At
almost the same time I purchased my RV-9A partially
completed kit. As the airplane build progressed, so
did our relationship. Back in Sept my airplane
became airworthy, and somehow back in December I
became Husband worthy.
After the first 40 hours, my now wife went from
scared to fly, to asking to take a trip to Biloxi
back in February, and then a few weeks ago waking up
in the morning and telling me "I am going to get my
Well today was her first official lesson. Thank you
to my good friend and fellow RV Builder Dave.
Big Things Happening ...pazmanyflyer
To me there are 5 BIG moments for building my
1. The BIG decision (which RV?)
2. The BIG cut (if you you are building and don't
know about this you will.)
3. The BIG move to the airport.
4. The BIG day of AW cert.
5. The BIG day of first flight.
I completed #3 Sat morning!
-3B Status Report ...David Paule
Rough-Trimmed the Canopy Fairing
After more than a little tweaking and alignment, I
was more or less finally content with the position
of the canopy, and re-clecoed the flange in place.
Then I got out some Sharpies and started marking the
fairing up. After erasing the marks (lacquer
thinner, with the canopy off, of course) and redoing
it I decided that it was time for cutting it out.
A die grinder and cutting disk sure use a lot of
air, at least my Harbor Freight one does. With both
the air compressor and the die grinder working, the
noise level was significant. The day was nice and a
neighbor abandoned her patio, so I reluctantly
closed the garage door and did it without that open.
Cutting disks, especially 4" ones, don't cut inside
radii very well, at least with my current knowledge,
so this is only a rough cut. Here's the fairing and
flange. The flange is trimmed.
Dumbest Mistakes in an Airplane ...thompsonbr87
I know a guy who, not long after getting his
private certificate, decided to take a girl for a
$100 hamburger. After about an hour flight, they
landed, and walked a half a mile or so to the
restaurant just off the field. That particular spot
is somewhat remote with no other option for miles
and no crew car. The pilot didn't realize his
mistake until they were met at the door by a sign
saying "Closed for the week".
Those two never went for another hamburger, $100 or
-7 Status Report ...motodave
One year exactly since fuselage kit arrived and
ready to roll!
Fun at the Hangar ...SeanB
I'll spare you the details of installing the
Filtered Air Box on my RV7 this weekend. The best
part was being joined by my wife, Tracey. She is so
willing to learn and help, and projects such a
postive attitude. Really cheers up the place while I
may be trudging through a challenge. She also has a
great sense of humor. Looked across the hangar and
this is what I saw! I am blessed!!!
My RV Weekend
I flew to North Georgia to a private strip called
Mountain Airpark. I met two three friends there.
Here is a picture of our airplanes parked beside the
As for me, I only worked on the airplane Saturday.
After 228 hours, spread out over 118 work entries
from 2/4/19 to 5/1/20, my baffles are finally
complete. Not totally thrilled with the outcome -
the front bottom inlet seals were troublesome and
make fitting the bottom cowl a pain - but they are
Out fooling around Sunday evening. Dropped some flap
and eased up in slow flight on some buddies in an
S-7. Kirk whipped out his fancy new iPhone, and sent
It's done with a photo-to-sketch app:
Like AV8ER, this weekend I decided to capitalize on
the reduced airline traffic to land my RV-7 at what
is normally one of the busiest airports in the
Susie Q thirty six years ago on this day back in
1984. I had .5 in my student pilot logbook,
Duran Duran hair, and didn't know what an RV was.
Nickel beer night at Graffiti's in Waco. I
asked her to dance. She nicely said no.
I asked her roommate. She nicely said no.
I asked Susie again. Yes.
Married 30 years this
June if I've done the math right.
Life lesson: Keep trying and never give up. A
good mindset for any year, especially this one.
PS: I'm a 1-person small business fighting the
good fight every day, delivering a good product for
good people. And I am grateful.
Up yours CV-19! And the horse you rode in on!
May 4, 2020. Issue #5,075.
I guess you heard by now OSH'20 is
scrubbed. DanH summed it up pretty well in a
reply: "Last night I told the Fairy about the party being
canceled. She bitched and cried and farted, then sulked off to
get drunk." Perfect. ;^)
I started the 'What'd you do with your RV this weekend' thread a little
late on Sunday, but Flying Canuck hit it out of the park almost
immediately. Beautiful pics (below).
I spent the weekend battling squirrels in the attic. We've been
hearing sounds for a few days, and a flashlight confirmed blurry
brown movement. Cage trap set with peanut butter sprinkled
Ended up catching (6). Mom and five teenagers. Relocated to a
few dozen acres of woods around the lake miles away. Two
of them were caught at the same time, and they came out of the
cage in nearly perfect formation. #2 was a little sucked
but he pulled it together at the top of the arch. You
gotta admire the focus.
a contract pilot or right-seater?...DFW
My RV Weekend ...Claude Pitre gets the ball rolling
Rocks and Lakes
I'll kick things off. Took advantage of a beautiful
morning yesterday and took a trip up the middle for
the Canadian Rockies.
First point of entry was via Lake Minnewanka which
leads to Banff, Alberta.
The Amazing Shrinking Air Filters ...Carl Froehlich
For you RV-10 guys wanting a bigger
filter, one option is to replace the standard filter
with a taller one, the K&N E-1000. It is taller but
same outside diameter.
You take the standard filter box and invert the top.
Note the aluminum plate on the bottom of the box
with the brackets. This was done to help prevent the
filter from going conical.
This was for an RV-10 with a James Cowl and it
worked very well. I assume it will work for a stock
cowl but don't know.
Ravens Coverage ...Blain post
Facchinetti RV-12 ...Kitplanes article
I took our Van's
RV-12 HB-YPI on her maiden flight on November 13th,
2019, in Yverdon, Switzerland after 7 years of
on-and-off building in our 2-car garage.
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May 1, 2020. Issue #5,074.
Wishing you and yours a
happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
a contract pilot or right-seater?...DFW
May Wallpaper Calendar
...Telluride courtesy Vlad (9A)
Smoke Fun Video RV-4 ...Justin
The smoke system is new to
me... Turns out I burn through it faster than I thought. I
run out at the end.
The grass strip is Dad's place where I grew up and learned
to fly. Still my favorite runway in the world.
And the underwing camera threaded into the tie down hole.
The blue painters tape was just to prevent paint scratching.
I've already had a few wise crack friends ask if it was
I hope you enjoy!
Please Critique My Electrical Plan ...mfleming
A PDF of my electrical plan
can be found here.
This is my first pass at the basic electrical architecture
for my -7.
The mission is Day VFR, IFR, very little IMC, maybe pass
through a marine layer.
This electrical schematic is a variation of one being
developed on the Aeroelectric list.
This is a single battery, dual alternator system with a
clearance delivery feature.
My version uses a B&C BC410-H 20A back up alternator with
their back up regulator. The back up alternator also comes
in on the battery side of the master contractor.
A Nice Day to Fly in the NE ...agirard7a
I love flying the coast of
RI and Mass this time of year. The water is so clear with an
amazing color. This is the SE point of Cape Cod. No seals
yet thus no big fish (yet)
Steve S's Custom Stick Grips
I had this idea to
make my own stick grips. This is what I came up
with. Wife says they look retro... PPT in the
Removing Moisture from the Engine: An Idea ...dpansier
I'm envisioning your doing
the following. Are you using a 120 volt blower?
I have used Duck Bill valves in the past and they may work
well in this application as check valves.