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It's impossible to write the perfect rules policy that pleases 100% of the users - we're just trying our best.  My educated guess, looking at the logs over the last few years, indicates that about 1 in 300 posts gets axed due to a rules violation (this doesn't included classifieds that self-expire and things in the 'test' area that get removed every few weeks).  Pretty high throughput for over 15,000 users.

Joke #1:
    Person standing next to a pilot"Good morning!"
    Pilot"Go away."

Joke #2:
       Typical exchange seen on large forum with no rules:
     Q:  Can someone please help me solve this problem?  Thanks in advance!
     A:  Nazi.
*
     (alternate answer):  My mother makes $87/day from home.  Learn more.
     (alternate answer):  It's Obama's fault.

Go have dinner with (3) of your pilot buddies and try to agree 100% on something.  Anything.  Now picture your table has 15,000 pilots sitting at it.  I hope you can agree there need to be some ground rules.

The VAF Forums have a lot of users (~15,000) and a large segment of pilots are 'type A' and used to getting their way.  Not a good mix without some guidelines.  On the up side, the VAF posting rules are refreshingly simple for such a large crowd.  As a matter of fact, the stripped down rules fit on one line:


Play nice.  Keep it RV-related.  Don't promote your company's product(s) here unless you're an advertiser.


This one line summery is broken out into greater detail below.  If this just rubs you the wrong way for some reason, and you think you should be able to say whatever pops into your head, any time of the day or night, drunk or sober....well, this isn't the place for you.  We wish you well.

IMPORTANT:  You will not be notified if your post gets deleted.  Grow a pair and man up.  99.999% of the posts that get deleted violated something in the 'summary rules' listed above and have no place here in the archives (examples: crash video of an F-18, some government official does something, selling your washing machine).  Now, on to the rules in greater detail...

The Posting Rules in Greater Detail

1. Civility: First and Foremost.
This is intentionally vague, and gives the moderators a LOT of discretion.  If any one of them is rubbed the wrong way with a post, it's toast.  If you can't be civil at all times, don't participate.  We don't tolerate uncivil behavior here.

2. Language and tone
...that would be inappropriate in the polite company of strangers and their young children shouldn't be used.

3. Keep the topic RV-related somehow.
Anything not RV is fair game for deletion.   You will not be notified it has been deleted, as we have 15,000+ folks in the forums and the moderators are volunteers with lives.

exceptions
You have a new baby, you let us know!  Fighting a medical condition and need support?  Post away.  Wanna make fun of my scooter in the 'misc' area....I'll let it slide, Clyde.  Put these type posts in the 'Test/Misc' area so they can be auto-deleted after a few weeks (so they don't clog up the archives).

4. Create your post in the appropriate area.
Put classified listings in 'Classifieds', etc.  Most folks come into the forums using either the Today's Posts or New Posts links, which pulls from all areas. 

Put time sensitive posts like 'Local RV builder on the ch 5 news tonight in XXXXXX' in the 'Test/Misc' area, as we can easily delete it later (so it doesn't clutter up the archives).

5.  No COMMERCIAL Promotion, including URLs in forum signatures  ...unless you are an advertiser.

The VAF Forums have reached a size where it's time to enforce this - signs of abuse have started to pop up.  I'm not trying to be a tool about it, but I spend so much more money running this site than you might think - far too much to provide free advertising for dozens and dozens of companies. 

And, it's unfair to the companies that DO financially support VAF with their limited advertising dollars. 

If you are NOT an advertiser on VAF, DO NOT display your business name or business URL in your signature or posts, or promote them through the VAF Forums or Private Message system.

Non-advertisers may list a URL in the 'Home Page' field in their forum member profile pointing to their business, but only there.

If you wish to purchase advertising space, I can be contacted
here.

Screen shots from other sites RE: this type of policy (when you reach a certain size you have to have a few more rules):


iPod Forums (iLounge.com)


Triumph Motorcycle Forum (TriumphRat.net)


Digital Photography Forums (dpreview.com)


Miata Forums (forum.miata.net)
 

Posts that will be deleted 100% of the time:

  • Posts complaining about why a post was deleted.  This is called 'mod-baiting'.
     

  • Posts that contain the words Liberals, Democrats, Republicans, Bush, Obama, Pelosi, Limbaugh, etc.  If your post even remotely smells of politics, it's toast.  I would suggest that if you want to talk GA politics, as an example, take it over to aopa.org/forums.
     

  • Duplicate posts
     

  • Links to video clips showing illegal and unsafe flying (like buzzing a house or rolls over a congested area).  My thoughts on safety.
     

  • "For Sale: 1965 Cessna C-172....selling to buy RV tail kit."  (the one exception: an airpark home or lot)
     

  • "Funny video clip of guys blowing up anvils." ....although I gotta admit that WAS a pretty funny clip.
     

  • Posts promoting individual-sponsored group buys. (here's why)
     

 

By way of contrast, take a look at some forums online that have pages and pages of rules (iPod forum rules / Miata forum rules)

By submitting content to the VAF Forums, you are granting Delta Romeo, LLC. a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive right (including any moral rights) and license to use, license, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, derive revenue or other remuneration from, communicate to the public, perform and display the content (in whole or in part) worldwide and/or to incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or technology now known or later developed.  (This paragraph was copied/paraphrased and adapted for use here from the legal section of the 'Just Chat' online community.  My thanks to them for letting me use it.)

Thanks again for keeping it fun and friendly,

Doug Reeves
VAF Forums Owner/Founder  

Your VAF Forum moderators:  

If any of the following folks come across a post that doesn't follow the rules above, they can delete (or edit) it.

RV-12 RV-10 RV-
9/9A
RV-
8/8A
RV-
7/7A
RV-
6/6A
RV-4 RV-3
Asberry, Mel xx
Brasch, Glen      x          
Buchanan, Sam x
Burgess, Ross x
Concannon, Milt x
Daves, Russ x x x x
Dye, Paul x x x
Ferraro, Joe x
Gray, Rick x x x  x xx
Hull, Don x
Lervold, Randy x x
Oliver, Brad x
Pardue, Larry x
Pratt, Chris x
Reddick, Mike x
Reeves, Doug x x
Romeiser, Clay x
Rosales, Paul x
Schmidt, Scott x x
Starkey, Mike x
Stewart, Mike x x
Sutter, Martin x x
Syracuse, Vic x  x x
Thocker, Jon  x  x  xx
Vincent, Craig  x
Wallis, Brian  x
Zilik, Gary x

Many of these folks are repeat builders.  An 'x' means they have owned,
built (or are building) a particular model.  An 'xx' indicates they have owned/built two!

 

You might someday get the following text from a moderator in an email, or private message, or even have your post or reply replaced with what's below.  Any large forum board has to eventually deal with this - it's not personal and is just a reality of large communities:

 

Hello.

I have been asked by the owner of the VAF site (Doug Reeves) to help enforce the forum posting rules (www.vansairforce.net/rules.htm).  I deleted your recent VAF post about _________________ for the following reason(s):

__ Civility / Tone

__ Not RV-related

__ Commercial promotion by non-advertiser

__ Mod/Policy bashing

__ Politics / Government

__ Illegal video clip

__ eBay / Barnstormers / etc.  (classified-specific rules at: www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=8208)

If you feel the need, please direct comments regarding this to the owner of the site (Doug Reeves).  His contact info can be found at: www.DeltaRomeo.com

Thank you.

 

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