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9.1.15  0008 UTC  

Indiana to Maine in a RV-12 ...Randy Pflanzer trip report

My son and I just completed our last long cross country trip of the season. I wanted to go to Maine so I could check off another dozen or so states from my list of visits. We'd been watching the weather for several weeks and the weather in New England just refused to break. Finally on Thursday of last week, it looked like we might be able to make it out and back within the weather window.  ...


The Mini Mississippi ...Pete Howell trip report


Tip- Flap Down Limit Switch ...Paul Merems

I installed a down flap down limit switch on my RV-7A and have been flying it for almost 5 years now without any issues with the limit switch setup.  ...


Vlad's at it again...


Calendar Wallpaper for September


Backup ...jswareiv

I put in the GRT Mini as a backup for the G3X, totally different system, has a good battery backup. It uses it's own GPS, small antenna that I plan to mount under the cowling. Uses the same pitot and static tubes off a T of the Garmin. Has it's own magnetometer, which I mounted on a shelf towards the back with the Garmin and it's own OAT, which is mounted on the other wing in the same spot as the Garmin OAT by the inboard access panel. Everything not totally connected yet, but no smoke!


Sanding and flying in the rain ...Steve Melton

Sanding dust streamlines, light rain, 120 kts, 3K altitude. shows the air bending downwards at a significant height above the wing along the fuselage.


From the factory...



8.31.15  0001 UTC  

Donations list updated over the weekend....and thank you to those who donate!!!

There have been 1,039 donations so far this year totaling ~$23,000 after taxes.  With 21,110 forum accounts, let's call it 4.9% of the registered readers - 2% if you include 'lurkers'.    We're 65% done with 2015, so THANK YOU!!! to those who help our family keep the lights on here, and God bless those VAF advertisers!  Please consider giving them your business!!!  We'd have folded long ago without them!!!

We try to run a tight ship, and we think that is rare in today's online world.

Thanks again for helping,
(and family)

Pilgrimages to Kitty Hawk ...PilotBrent video [ed. Wonderful video!!!! dr]


RV White Pages Updated and Current ...39 edits/additions done.

Courtesy the lovely and talented Susie Reeves.


VAF Courtesy Car List Updated and Current

Works on anything you got that runs a browser and sees the web.


N964JB 1st Pilots N Paws Mission ...Jason Tremble


Just another RV-8 cruising' along...David-aviator


40 hours flown off! ...CopterJohn

It took nearly a year to get 40 hours flown off my RV6A, thanks to a weird disease called Sarcoidosis striking me in April of this year. My building partner, Mindy class got the first flight at 40.6 hours. She was a big part of the 5 year construction process. Thanks to WC Aircraft of Boone for technical support through the build, Rob Hickman for solving my AFS install issues, and Aeroflow Performance for troubleshooting some fuel injection squawks. She trues out at 173 kts and sounds great with the WW74RV prop.


More Console Pics ...NovaBandit


1,000 RV-12 Emp Kits Shipped ....factory FB announcement


Land of Enchantment Pics (KAEG) ...MANY pics by Bob Hassel

"...As soon as I walked in the gate, I saw a line of 4 RV looking aircraft that were setting apart from everyone else. It turns out it was 'Chile Flight' the NM RV performance team. There was an RV-3, RV-4, RV-8 and a Harmon II Rocket."  ...



8.28.15  0001 UTC  
   Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend. 

Finally posting that it's flying


New Engine Break-in- flakes in oil filter


Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma

I was diagnosed with Stage IV Grade 2 Follicular Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma last May. I have been undergoing chemo and am responding well. After my 3rd treatment, a follow-up PET scan shows no cancer. I just had my 4th treatment and have 2 more to go.

I am expecting to start my special issuance medical process around the first of November. If anyone here has gone through this process before, especially with Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma, would you mind telling me the process?

I fly helicopters for a living and usually get a 1st class medical.

Thank you.
Joey Wheeler - Justin, TX (16X)
RV7 in progress

Full Swivel!


Probable Cause Database

A list of 530+ probable cause RV accident documents that you can discuss online here to your hearts content with my wholehearted, screaming-from-the-rooftops encouragement!   PLEASE discuss these probable cause documents so we can use the best-as-we-know-them facts to learn!  It's been a few months since I updated the database, and I'm planning on doing that in the next couple of weeks. 


Jerry Wants to Build Your Tanks FOR FREE


Panel Pics ...NovaBandit


NASA Langley Research Center Video from the Other Day



8.27.15  0001 UTC  

A Case of the Monday's ...Bruce Eicher

Really not a bad day for a flight up to Arlington Monday. Mt Rainier, notice the white smoke blanket East. Further North over the range we could see a cloud resembling an atomic bomb mushroom. I suspect it was the Okanogan or Chelan fire.  ...


The all important pre-buy inspection

I recently sold my RV-10 aircraft. As we all know an important aspect of any aircraft ownership change is the pre-buy inspection.

In my case the pre-buy inspection was done on behalf of the buyer by Vic Syracuse of Base Leg Aviation. Vic, as most of us know, is a multiple repeat offending builder of several RVs and other experimental aircraft. He is also a DAR, AI, CFII, and probably one of the Van’s families’ most respected experts. He gave the keynote address at this year’s Van’s Banquet at Air Venture.

Vic’s inspection of my aircraft was through, and efficiently completed. The result of his work was instrumental in the sale being completed smoothly.
I believe the buyer is confident he is getting a good airplane and I am confident he is in good hands as he becomes safely acclimated to his new airplane.

So, if you are an RV shopper or seller I would certainly recommend Base Leg Aviation for the pre-buy inspection or any of their other many services.

Dick Sipp
RV-4 sold
RV-10 sold
RV-12 60 hours


August is....canopy cutting time!


Brake Check? ...Bill R.

One of my neighbors who happens to be an IA lost his left brake on his 310 during rollout and went off the runway. The result was that he ripped the left wing off, just outboard of the left engine, when he used a tree for a parking brake.

The plane had just come out of annual and he said the brakes were fine and that he had put new linings in them.

My questions to this group are:

1. How can you inspect the caliper?
2. Should the calipers be rebuilt at a set interval?

(No one was hurt in his incident, only tree was harmed in the making of this story.)


Pecan Plantation Fly In ...Pat Stewart

It's that time again. This years fly in will be on Saturday September 19th. Lots of airplanes, food and fun. All types of aircraft and always well represented by the RV gang.
RV 8, RV8A, RV 10
Building RV12
Pecan Plantation


v2.6 of VAC's Transition Training Syllabus Published  ...Mike Vaccaro

"...Summary of Changes

1. Revised Vne discussion in RV-type Aerodynamics briefing in Part 2. Replaced “Effective” Ceiling with “Maximum Operating Altitude” throughout entire document. Additions to briefing guide for clarity in several bullets. Briefing mirrors expanded Vne discussion in Part 3…Bottom line here is that Vne should be treated as a TAS unless analysis and testing of a specific aircraft has been performed to validate a different limit. Vno should only be exceeded with deliberate caution under appropriate conditions.

2. Corrected headings in Table 2-1 “Example RV-4/6 210 MPH TAS to CAS Look-up Table” in RV-type Aerodynamics Briefing in Part 2.

3. Corrected Holding discussion in “All Weather Operations” chapter of Part 3.

4. Revised Maximum Structural Cruising Speed section in “Maneuvering Flight” chapter of Part 3.

5. Revised Never Exceed Speed section in “Maneuvering Flight” chapter of Part 3.

6. Minor Corrections to Handling Briefing Guide in Appendix B."


From Rich Meske...

VALVE EXTENSIONS.  We just received a new batch of Valve Extensions. The flexibility of these extensions allows you to get easy access to your hard to get to tire valves. For more details on this and more GREAT PRODUCTS, please visit our web site, www.aircraftextras.com


Dual mag failure SIMULTANEOUSLY!

My son has helped build several RV's during his A@P apprenticeship.

Last Tuesday, a Cirrus 22 dead sticked to my airport from 19,000' on a cross country. He tried switching tanks, fuel pump on, to no avail. Fortunately, my stepson is a Cirrus trained A@P. He came home from work and diagnosed it as DUAL mag failure!

The plastic gears had stripped on both mags. The driving gears in the accessory section operated smoothly.

He had two mags overnighted and installed them the next day. The engine fired up on the second blade, ran fine and they test flew it and the gent went home to Tampa.

The airplane has a 4 bladed composite MT prop and the thinking is that there is not much vibration damping and could be a causative factor.

The engine parameters were downloaded to a memory stick and forwarded to Cirrus for examination to try and get to the root of this, since they only had 200 hours on them and the factory rebuilt IO-550.



8.26.15  0030 UTC  

RV-12 Custom Trailer


Travel Update ...Tom Lewis and friends

On Sunday morning, we loaded up the RVs and flew out through the smoke. This was the view at 9.5k of Mt Baker.


Now what?

So I have been plugging away on my elevators since last winter and I was dimpling the RH elevator skin rivet holes having fit and drilled the skin to the frame. Well I goofed and clipped the opposing skin with the hammer while using the c-frame. Hindsight being what it is, I suppose I should have waited to get the 3" yoke and squeezed them but... As things sometimes do, they go from bad to worse trying to fix the first mistake. I tried flattening the slight crease out with a few small hits of the flat set against the backplate. All that ended up doing was adding some slight deformations and marring the surface. Oh did I mention this is on the top? Darn Murphy's law! After steaming about it most of the night, I had another look at it this morning and I think it's only a matter of a little filler then primer but I wanted to get a second opinion (or 10) on it. The slight crease is right at the end of the stiffener where it (almost) meets the spar. It seems to be a point of higher stress but I don't know if it might be a problem down the road. Replacing the skin basically means rebuilding the entire RH elevator from scratch because it's match drilled already to the frame. Thoughts?


An Unforeseen Journey ...Bill Boyd

That's been my life the past few years. The tightest twists in the road might lie behind me for now, but the loss of our home to fire this May was a bit of a lurching turn. It's been emotionally hard to live all summer near the gaping hole in the hilltop where our house stood the last 18 years, and irksome to reach for tools that are no longer there to do the myriad odd jobs on the farm, including airplane maintenance. Lots of possessions will have to be replaced, slowly, methodically, waiting on the claims to settle and the checks to come in.

Today, all that begins to change visibly. The precast basement was erected this morning, and it's so gratifying to see the place where our next RV will be built rising up from the clay. Beauty for ashes. Joy for mourning. Check it out!


5 Years and 500 Hours ...Tony Phillips RV-9


Thunderstorm Microburst Video...better than the drawing in the textbooks.


EarthX, Inc. has 3 new aircraft specific models (ETX680, ETX900, ETX1200). Features include:

- a fully REDUNDANT integrated battery management system (BMS)
- over discharge protection
- over charge protection
- cell balancing built in
- short circuit protection
- excessive cranking protection
- LED battery fault light indicator that can be programmed into your EFIS system or a simple LED light on your control panel.

In addition, EarthX has 13 OEM manufactures,( as of 8-25-15 and rising) that have approved, endorsed and are using the ETX series in their factory built planes, helicopters or kit planes. The EarthX brand meets the requirements of use with a Rotax engine set forth in the May 29th Mandatory Service Bulletin and is the only lithium battery that meets these requirements. All three batteries meet or exceed the specifications of the lead acid battery they are replacing and remove 10+ pounds instantly off your aircraft! Lighter weight = better performance.

fmi: Earthxmotorsports.com


Giving away an RV-7A Kit ...Nanji Chandra

Fellow RV'ers:

It's been years since I made any meaningful progress on my RV-7A. While I've done a day here or there of build work, I'm at a stage in life where I doubt I will have enough free time to focus on the build. So I've decided to give my kit away.

Here is where things stand:
I have purchased the tail and wing kits.
The tail kit is done except for the fiberglass work.
The left wing is done.
Both tanks are done professionally - by Evan's Aviation in CA.
I've made progress on the right wing but there is a lot more to go.
I haven't ordered/purchased the fuselage or other kits yet.
I have a heated Dynon pitot kit.

Here is what I want to do
I want to give the parts away to someone that can complete the airplane. Give me a one page write-up on why you want my kit and how you will use it to get the next generation interested in Aviation specifically and STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Mathematics) topics in general. If I like what I get, we have a quick phone conversation and the kit is yours.

Needless to say, there are no warranties on any of the parts and while most of it is crated, it would be your sole responsibility if selected to figure out how to get it to your shop from the Tampa Bay area. Once it's yours, it's yours so expect the usual legalese around me not being responsible as to how you put the rest of the airplane together, whether all the workmanship meets AC 43.13 standards etc.

Hoping to hear some good responses!



8.25.15  0001 UTC  

Whiskey Flight PIREP

This is a photo of Whiskey flight on Saturday morning. The mission was the 3.99 breakfast at Umatilla Florida. Mike Kelly 1,Scott Roth 2, Paul Van Sickle and Bob Kurrle 3, Gene Ledda 4, photo by Gary Rosier.


My RV10 has a pink slip! (And a bonus video) ...Ed Kranz

Sunday afternoon, the DAR stopped out for the final airworthiness inspection. He only spent about 20 minutes looking at the plane, but he was very happy with what he saw. Operating limitations looked in order, logbook entry was done, and airworthiness cert issued!

I'm still planning on having a tech counselor (or two) do a very thorough inspection before it flies, but provided they don't find any major issues, first flight should be in the next week or so!

Since it was just the two of us, I didn't get that photo of him handing me the pink slip, so I'll post a video I did the day before of startup and taxi testing behind the G3X Touch / Aerosport panel! I'm really happy with how everything is working!  video


First GoPro Attempt ...Chad Droney

I finally got to try out the GoPro my wife got for my birthday. Here is a time lapse flight from Monterey, CA to Rosamond, CA, which is just outside of Edwards AFB (Thanks again Rosie for the help finding a hangar) at 11,000ft. The 1.5hr flight is distilled down to about 3min w/ some tunes by Beck added.

On a side note, I love how great the RV community is. I ran into a VAF'er (is that even a word?) at the Monterey Jet Center. When I was going in to pay my fuel bill I heard him asking about the RV-8 parked on the ramp (mine), which lead to a great conversation, a free shirt, and a tour of his "other" plane (Challenger).


RV-14A Bellcrank Rib Dent ...Tilford

While riveting the left bellcrank rib to the aft fuselage forward bottom skin, my bucking bar slipped and did some damage to the rib. I'm planning on replacing the rib, however, I thought I'd check here to see if there were any other thoughts on how I might proceed on this one?



[ed. Not RV, but some interesting aviation clips in there that might keep you from working at the office.  dr]



8.24.15  0054 UTC  

My RV a-la Disney

My cousins decided to paint a picture of my RV. Incredible how good this is. Love it!! To my hangar it goes.


First Flight

First flight for 412DR ,kit #120797 occurred today at 15:00 Zulu from KGVL (Gainesville, GA). Flew for an hour and completed flight test card #1. The right wing is a little heavy and it needs a little right rudder but she's a joy to fly! It's been almost exactly 6 months since I received the A/C, work has been in the way (check my signature). Thanks to John Albury's tutelage and training I was well prepared and the actual flight was simple. Thanks also to my wife, Susan. She was my ground crew today and throughout the build. She didn't pull a single rivet, but she wrote every check when the time came. No pictures,cause I don't know the process but Jetguy has some and will post. The journey now begins............
Kit #120797
Airworthiness certificate 2/22/15
743.6# EW 81.14'' CG
Wheel fairings, AP, lighting kit, ADSB, full interior prime, no paint
Approx. 650 build hours


This is Gonna Get Deep! ...Pete Howell

Andi and I found ourselves with a suddenly free Friday afternoon, so we decided to head north to check something off of our trip list, the Soudan Mine near Tower, Minnesota.  ...


N64LR Took to the Sky Today

I did my first flight today. It was mostly uneventful. We picked the perfect rudder trim size to start and got neutral yaw at cruise. I also have a heavy left wing, but it became neutral after we burned about 8 gallons of fuel from the left tank. I also have some gremlins to chase in the engine, as one or two cylinders were way out of of range (EGT/CHT) from the others at different times. I am confident that I will be able to chase it down eventually. It also seems that my prop is over-pitched (I bought a Catto designed for a 9 with the same HP engine as mine) as we could only get about 2550 at 3000'

Until today, I had never flown an RV. It was so exciting to feel exactly how responsive they really are and how effortlessly they bank. A very exciting experience. I am really looking forward to my training and completing my Phase I Testing.

I wanted to say a big thank you to all of you that provided guidance through my build and for being generous with your experience. Searching in VAF always provides good insight.



Low-pass over NASA Space Shuttle Landing Facility ...Manny Oro vid


Welcome Andrew Darrow ...new RV-10 builder

I'd say this journey really started back last Christmas, when my good neighbor offered to take my wife and I up in an RV-10 to see Christmas lights. We had a great time at night, and he even let me take the stick a little while and keep it level. We flew around our house and other known close areas and had a great time.

Fast forward to a few weeks ago. My neighbor invites us again to a quick dinner jaunt to a city not too close. At the time, I didn't realize he intended us to fly there, but the hour plus automotive distance quickly passed up up in the sky in a mere fifteen minutes. We had a great adventure, and the late afternoon flight was just a part of it. But this was definitely the trigger to opening the little doors within me that I've kept closed ever since I was younger. It's too much and at this point, it just won't happen the voice inside my head had always. Why dream about it when it just won't happen? Much easier to just close those thoughts off and not think about them. But, our little jaunt had opened those doors WIDE open.... Why, I COULD make this happen. That could be ME!  ...


They are sharing same hangar now ...Guilherme


The Sticking Valve Syndrome

I thought I would post this in the RV10 list since it applies to the IO540 D4A5 typically installed in the RV10, although feel free to move it.

About a week ago I noticed a slight miss/stumble during climb out. This occurred twice, but not on every climb out. It would only occur for a split second during the climb out, but did not occur during the cruise portion of the flight. Along with this symptom, during normal cruise I noticed a slight vibration that felt similar to a prop just slightly out of balance. You could see it in the glare shield. I downloaded the EFIS data from both occurrences and examined it looking for signs of something amiss. I knew the exact time of the anomaly, but it did not show in the data either because the sample rate was to coarse (1Hz) or it was not enough of an event to show up in the EGT, CHT, FF, FP etc.  ...


Andy Hill

Today I have terrible news to report. Andy Hill, who has built an RV-8 and RV-3 and posts under the username 'Andy Hill' here, crashed while flying a Hawker Hunter jet in England at an air show over the weekend.  Official reports are that seven people on the ground were killed. Unofficial reports say that the total could go as high as eleven. Andy is in the hospital in critical condition.

I ask that everyone who reads this site to please keep all the people effected by this in their thoughts and prayers.  If I get any news on Andy I'll relay it. 



8.21.15  0023 UTC  

Signs of Abuse

(click to enlarge)

  My A-model lightspeeds have been 'sprinkling pepper' on both mine and my paxs' heads for the last coupla years.  Glue, foam and stitching getting a little long in the tooth - around a decade of abuse.  The control slides that contain the batteries are all sticky and funkified.  After each flight there are 15 seconds or so in front of the mirror 'getting the specks off' the sides of your head (you know).  Never get 'em all.  Headset salad photo above taken yesterday on a bed of well broken-in Nomex flying gloves.  Dumped on the floor while cleaning the cockpit area.  The photog trainee in me saw a shot that told a story, maybe.
  Lately, I've been cleaning more than flying, with the start of the new college semester, etc. gnawing away at the reserves.  Writing that check seems to always put me in 'don't spend a penny mode' (DSAPM) - I'm betting more than a few who have been there will nod in agreement.  The whole pile above is a hot mess, and for some reason it really doesn't bother me one bit.  Beautifully flawed are the words that come to mind - a visual reminder of past RV fun.  I saw the Grand Canyon for the first (and only) time in those.  Learned formation flying.  My Mom wore them.  My son.  There is probably a mouse-click solution for replacement pads, but I haven't even looked to be honest.  DSAPM.  I think I can get another decade out of 'em before turning them into bookends or something for the spare bedroom home office.  Something to remind me of friends met and adventures had.  Good stuff...
  Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.


Rick Aronow RV-12 First Flight

Video in slo mo Thu: https://youtu.be/HfeCKW4klxQ.  Some idiot (me) was standing in the right place at the right time.  I'm pretty sure Rick will chime in the forums sometime soon.  Congrats Rick!!!!  dr


Got my pink slip today ...Larry Ruth 6A

Final sign off by the FSDO today. Woo Hoo. A surprisingly simple process. I bet the guy looked at the plane for all of 6 minutes. It was all about the paperwork for them.

Hope to do the first flight on Saturday with a Test pilot (using the new second pilot program). I have LIVED at the airport the last week getting it together. Very exciting.

Rainbow in Alaska ...Berchmans


Service Bulletin Lycoming Fuel Injection Diaphragm Fuel Pump


Hat Sighting ...Gary Platner (Hubbard Glacier)

(more on the cap)

Posted as Courtesy for an ex-Vet / ex-LEO Reader

[ed. Put here because non-RV trades aren't for the forums.  ]
Looking to trade for RV-14/14A kit....



8.20.15  0003 UTC  

National Aviation Day with my Cousin and my RV6A ...Latintan


First Flight - Bob Lund's RV-8 ...Pat Hatch post

Bob Lund, retired AA triple7 driver, did the honors this morning early in Vero Beach, FL. Photo ship was Pat Hatch's RV-6. Only squawk was an elevator trim calibration adjustment, everything else was perfect. CHTs were in the mid 300's, oil temp with an Aero Classic HE Mod #1001599 oil cooler mounted behind cylinder #4 peaked out at 203° in the climb to 6,500' and settled in the mid 190's after level off. Bob was running the engine hard so we expect these temps to come down, especially the oil temp. Plus, in case you didn't know, it's warm in FL right now!   more pics


Season 5 Episode 8. Tonopah NV ...Vlad trip update


Weird issue ...Dan Weyant

So I went out flying tonight to shoot a couple practice approaches for currency and get familiar with my net GTN650.

I had two COM issues that are a bit confusing.

1- com two (headless Garmin com) was very staticky, and hard to understand. Tried it on a couple frequencies with the same result.

2 - com one (the 650) would occasionally have the transmit icon flash when I wasn't pushing the transmit button. Also, on some frequencies (122.9 and 122.25) when I transmit on com1 it receives on com 2 (different frequency).

It was 100 degrees on the ground when I took off so that might have had something to do with it?

Antenna's are about 3 feet apart (under wing on left and right side of fuselage).

I'm using the Garmin audio panel (everything in the plane is Garmin)

The scratchyness with the COM2 is intermittent. When I tried it on the ground about 30 minutes after I landed it was clear. Had the wife talk to me on a handheld.

Just did a quick test this morning (no engine run) and everything seems to work fine, including not seeing the transmit/receive issue on different frequencies.

I'll try the tests again this evening with the engine running.

And I did double check that I'm running the latest (3.70) software from Garmin.

Any other ideas between now and then would be appreciated.


Travel Update ...Tom Lewis

We had a great sunset last evening here on Orcas Island.


Status Report ...Sam Bovington RV-8

Before I start final assembly of my fuselage I cleaned up my tailwheel fork, bracket and spring. Built a simple paint hood and put on some primer (Dupont Variprime) and some white topcoat (single stage polyurethane Imron left over from my last project).



8.19.15  0001 UTC  

Hey, that's not a boat!
Seen the other day on Lake Lewisville, TX.  dr photo.

Classic Aero Website issue resolved

Hey everyone, we realized yesterday that part of our website (products section) didn't work. Turns out our host changed something that broke it. After waiting almost a day for them to fix it, we just re-wrote a few lines of code to make it work a different way. Anyway, those pages are now available again.
Luke Doughton
Classic Aero Designs
866.219.1087  541.926.7757  541.926.1373 fax

Chicago Skyline ...Jerry Morris

I pulled this SNAP from my GRT HXr. I had just a moment to hit the SNAP function as we were turning back in to the box during the Chicago Air and Water show this past weekend.

It looks busy on the screen, but might impressive out the window.

And before anyone hollers that we were too close to anything, my altimeter is set to zero on the ground, and we were in a waiver inside a TFR for an airshow.


Interesting Runway - Wolf Ridge ...DanH

Saturday morning I was cruising up the NC-TN border north of Asheville, when I looked down to see this:


Leak Check.....Monkey Style

Randy 'Monkey' Richmond sent me this pic of a creative way to do a leak check on a high wing tank in his shop.  It's not a baby pool, but an inlet cover for a DC-9 engine.  All that air exerts around 200 lbs of force when you try to submerge it, so Randy rigged up a brace that extended up to his folded hangar door.

Don't press that 'down' button.... 


Kitplanes "Best Of..." Vote For the Best Camping Photo


Third Mid-Atlantic Gathering of RV's - September 19th


From Larry Vetterman (re: Badlands event)


N199MJ Status Report ....less than two months work.



8.18.15  0001 UTC  

The rest of the story ...boom3

Sticking Exhaust Valve - Diagnosis and Fix! ...Mike Bullock -7

First Ride for Margie ...David Domeier

USS Cod and SS William G. Mather tours, Cleveland, OH ...Dgamble

Status Report ...riseric

Trip to Boulder, CO redux ...bruceh

From the factory....



8.17.15  0001 UTC  
  Looking forward to seeing some Homecoming pics over the next few days!  Hope you had a good weekend. 

What a great weekend! ...boom3


Bay of Fundy ...Jay 'Jaybird' Pratt

"...We returned home yesterday August 14, 2015 a month of travel. We stayed with friends and camped. One night in a Hotel.
We flew 3540 NM.  Used 218 gallons of gas, costing $968.  And logged 24 hours flying.  What a machine! That old 'Borrowed Horse' <g>..."

Another First Real Passenger ...tailcreek_flyer


Loss of Power Experiences - Due to vapor lock?

Below is an explanation of the power losses we experienced and our thought process in solving it. I’m posting it here to accomplish the following objectives:

1. If the problem we’ve experienced is truly “vapor lock”, then RV-12 owners and pilots need to be made aware of what conditions might trigger vapor lock and to consider operating the RV-12 as it was designed: Run the electric fuel pump at all times.
2. Solicit thoughts on how confident we can be that the problem we experienced is “vapor lock” and if not, what might be the root cause of the loss of fuel pressure as the apparent cause of power loss.

Lost power and fuel pressure on (4) occasions with conditions noted:  ...

Travel Update ...Tom Lewis

And more...

And more...


LOE'15 Update ...Russ Daves


Panel Status Report ...Lucio


From the factory...


Cavanaugh Bay, ID video...Nickb145


Reno Air Race R³ Party


RV-12 800 hour milestone ...JBPILOT




8.14.15  0005 UTC  
   Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend. dr

Rear-facing Car Seat Update ...Rob Kochman RV-10

"...Now he's forward facing again and still loves it!..."


Van's Homecoming This Weekend

Will be held on August 14-16, 2015.  It is hosted by EAA Chapter 292 and Van's Aircraft at the Independence State Airport (7S5)


Scheduled Network Maintenance 11pm CT 8/15/15 - 8/16/15 6am CT

My ISP will be performing network maintenance on Saturday, August, 15th, 2015 beginning at 11pm CT; lasting until Sunday, August, 16th, 2015 at 6am CT. This maintenance is to upgrade ISP circuit connections to help improve performance. Customers may see intermittent connection loss during this window. 


Travel Update ...Tom Lewis and friends

On Sunday morning, we continued NW to the San Juan Islands. As we approached the Columbia River we found conditions getting a little smokey.  ...


SkyView Software Version 13.0.3 Now Available

"Flight plans that contain waypoints - particularly at the beginning of the flight plan - with blank names can cause SkyView to restart when that flight plan is drawn on the map. This issue has not been observed with SkyView's own internal flight planning. This issue is most likely to be observed when using an ARINC navigator such as a GTN series. Note that you can only experience this issue when the external navigator's fight plan is being displayed on SkyView's map."


Eagle's Nest Projects is coming to North Texas (KTKI)

McKinney HS students - Young Eagles Day at Aero Country Airport (T31)

August - 2015
Eagle's Nest Projects has partnered with the McKinney Aviation Academy (McKinney ISD) to bring an Eagle's Nest Project to their airport-campus located at McKinney National (Collin County) Airport (KTKI). McKinney ISD is committed to providing the finest and most comprehensive high school aviation program in the country; in the past 3-years McKinney ISD has implemented a variety of aviation curriculums at each of their high schools, purchased a Redbird FD flight sim, and partnered with the City of McKinney, McKinney National Airport, Monarch Air, and many others to provide third and fourth year students airport-based (KTKI) classroom and shop facilities.

While the McKinney Aviation Academy is receiving 110% support from their School District, local businesses, the City of McKinney, and surrounding communities, we need YOU, the experienced RV builder, to make this Eagle's Nest Project a 'home-run'. The typical shop/build class (air conditioned) will be 4-hours long, two or three days per week, and during school hours. If you fly to the airport you can park right next to the classroom, and space permitting (almost always) inside the Monarch Air hangar.

Please consider volunteering your time and talent to the aviation inspired youth of North Texas... we need YOU! Short notice I know, but you're invited to a 'advisory meeting' being held this Monday 1:00-2:30 at the KTKI Monarch Air facility. If you want to volunteer or just want to learn more, please contact me by email or phone... or just show up at the meeting.
Email: reb@rv-1.org
Phone: 713-823-9509

Edit: Mr. Brent Crabe, RV-8 driver and current RV-14A builder from Conroe, TX, donated his 'still in the crate' RV-12 Empennage/Tail Kit to get the project started. Thank You Brent!!!

Have a great day!
R. E. "Ernie" Butcher


Mothership Hobbs Meter



8.13.15  0012 UTC  

First REAL passenger! ...Mike Hillger

My co-investor got her first ride this morning! She loved it and even took the stick for a while! Planning our first trip this weekend!


Alvord Desert Pictures ...apkp777

Just got back from Alvord Desert. Wow, what a spectacular place. Certainly one of the best trips so far in my RV.


Changing a 7A to a 7 - the paperwork




Status Report ...Chattin35


Panel Upgrade ...multiple photos from Skid


Step Repair Update ...RVG8tor


From the mothership...



8.12.15  0004 UTC  

Travel Update ...Tom Lewis

No flying through Arches for us. We did see a video for sale of a guy flying through the arches before it was illegal.

On Sat, we loaded up our RV7a and flew north out of Moab. We had a lot of clouds and some mountain obscurations so we were staying close to valleys and IFR, following roads for the first portion. ...


Tear in Dimple hole - what to do?

While dimpling the rear spar on the right elevator for my RV10 with my pneumatic squeezer, I justtt missed one of the holes and tore a little flap of material out of the side of the dimple.  ...


Options for a higher breakout force on tail wheel?

"......On Saturday when doing a cross wind landing with a lot of gusts to 25 knots with an average of 45 to 60 degs off the run way heading I could keep it straight until I slowed down and let my tail down. As soon as the tail touched the plane immediately weather vaned into the wind and off the run way and into the Alf alpha on the side of the runway. (no damage) I know my cross wind component was around 20 knots or maybe even more with the gusts. But the little wheel felt to me as well as my girl friend riding shot gun in the back that it had unlocked as soon as it started taking a load. I had full rudder and then got some brake on it as well but there was no changing its course. The skids marks are still there from the braking and the tire locking and letting go on the pavement, through the gravel and into the alp alpha....."


Status Report ...Dave Grimmer RV-8


Bad Lands!!!!


Status Report ...Dave Leonard RV-10

Waiting for longer throttle cable and looking for a trailer to make the big move. Wings need bottom skins and tips, then we'll put it all together.


It's Calendar Time ...Ken Scott at Van's wants your picture!

(from the factory FB page)
Ok…Oshkosh is over. Hundreds of RV builders have polished up their airplanes and no doubt thousands of photos were taken.
And you know that as night follows day, Oshkosh is followed by…


Fifteen lucky RV builders/pilots will receive immortality, lasting fame, lifetime bragging rights and even a few complimentary calendars.

It could be you… so let’s see those photos.

We need shots of all kinds of RVs, from RV-3 through RV-14. Flying shots are preferable, but we will consider ground shots if they “tell a story.”

Focus and clarity are essential. Really sharp focus. Shutter speeds should be slow enough that props are at least blurred in motion (full prop discs look best). Fully stopped props, or curved props (often the result of frozen video frames) don’t look right.

File size must be big enough to reproduce at calendar size – two megs at least. Most digital cameras set to “best resolution” will produce a useable image. We can always reduce files if they are too big, but we can’t easily make them bigger.

Aircraft should be fully framed, with enough space around them to allow cropping to fit the page size and aspect ratio of the calendar page. Photos with some part of the airplane crowded against the edge of the frame are difficult to use. A half wingspan all around is a rough guide. Conversely, the airplane has to be close enough to avoid the “little airplane way off in the big sky” syndrome. Vertically framed photos are hard to come by and increase your chances of being chosen for the coveted cover spot.

As large files may be difficult to e-mail, we will accept reduced file “teasers” via email to. Please indicate the maximum file size available.

We will need basic data: aircraft builder’s name, pilot’s name, photographer’s name, place and approximate date the photo was taken and any other interesting tidbit that might contribute to the caption.

We need photos by September 21, 2015. Send them via email to kens 'at' vansaircraft 'dot' com

We know there are some excellent photographers out there and we’re looking forward to submissions!


Panel Powered Up! ...Blain

Encouraging to see the panel lit up. Now if I could just get them to communicate with each other. Actually just the AFS encoder and the GTX aren't on speaking terms.



8.11.15  0012 UTC  

Fresh off Stein's Bench

(click to enlarge)

"Here's an RV-10 panel we shipped the week of OSH. It's for a VAF member (John W.) and is full IFR with the Garmin G3X Touchscreen system in it along with the GRT mini EFIS for backup and PS Engineering audio panel and TruTrak autopilot.  Also of note is the full EFII system."


RV-10 Bucket List Trip July/August 2015 ...dmaib

Mary (aka Rosie the Riveter) and I have wanted to take this trip since retiring back in 2008. However, various family and life issues have intervened until this year. We thought July and August would be a great time to leave the Florida summertime steam bath and head for drier climes. We departed New Smyrna Beach early on the morning of July 12.

Touched down again in New Smyrna Beach on August 5th, 5554 nautical miles and 39.8 flight hours later. Our plan was to be away for a month, but we were forced to cut the trip a week short when we got word that Mary's mother had fallen and broken her hip. We planned to visit friends and family, and visit places we had never been on this trip.  ...


Prop went around about 1,500,000 times yesterday! ...Scott Schmidt

Yesterday was my biggest flying day ever. I put over 10 hours on the -10.

It started with a 5am wake up, filled the tanks, to take my parents from Salt Lake to Kellogg, ID to pick up their new truck. It was just over 3 hours on the Hobb up there, filled the tanks, and a little shorter back as I went around a storm that took me over McCall, ID with a slight tailwind. (6.1)

On the way up I spotted some smoke on the side of the mountain in Idaho and went to take a look. There was one tree that was completely burned up and smoldering from a lightning strike. I hit the GPS button to get the coordinates and called up Boise FSS and reported. When I landed about an hour later in Kellogg there were a few people with their helicopter just waiting to be deployed to the next fire. I told the pilot about the smoke and he thanked me for calling it in. He thought someone would definitely go check it out. We saw many valleys filled with smoke.  ...


8A Rudder Jam


Defeated by ribbed conduit installation


Badlands Fly-In Update ...Larry Vetterman


RV departures from OSH '15



8/10  0012 UTC  

OshKosh Daddy Daughter Date


Panel Lit up for the 1st time


RV-7 Will 369KW


August Update


Restart after 9 months


VAF Logo and New Arrival Sighting


More Moab


Bad looking driven rivet - maybe press on


From the Factory FB Page



8/7  0046 UTC
  One of the unintended consequences of having a hangar big enough to have a couple of renters is the chance that they might have a more twisted sense of comedy than yourself.  Rob Reece (RV-8 fuse) hung this on the wall at the Van Cave awhile back in his corner.  A 'white elephant' prize perfectly placed in its element.  An airbrush painting, with LEDs, crooked, of Marilyn and Elvis taking a joy ride.  Hung with a coat hanger (on the front of the picture no less).  VAF cap hung on the side with pride.  My kind of art.  And it even blinks...  Stop by 'The Cave' sometime for a private viewing.  Lines are shorter than you might think.
  Wishing you and yours a happy, safe, RV-filled and air conditioned weekend. 


RV7 #74466 ...welcome


Status Report:  Canopy Riveted ...ackselle pics

As echoed by many in this forum, the slider canopy on a 7 or 9 is one of the toughest sections of the build. Many methods, lots of "fixes", a plethora of great ideas!.

Well,, thanks to the help of my good friend Bill Funk, some ideas from Matt Burch's builder blog, and some encouragement when I saw David Boeshaar's entry in the RV-9/9A section (Canopy Skirts)..... my canopy is ready to store until final installation.  ...


Need Help w/Your Avionics?


Petit Jean Registration Open


RV Travel Update ...Tom Lewis


AFS Quick Panel PIREP ...ackselle


Flew the RV-14! ...Iron teaser


Long Distance Moves



8/6  0006 UTC

Outside my Hangar ...Jeff Bertsch RV-4

The other day I was working in my hangar and noticed the strong smell of Jet fuel. I went outside and this is what was parked just outside my hangar.  And note the plane in the background too.  Both owned by the Collings Foundation and based here at EFD in Houston.


Favor - RV-7A near Edison, NJ

I have been planning to keep lurking here till the day I am ready to order the RV-7A kit from Vans. However, as suggested by many, it would be great to 'feel' the aircraft before making the final decision.

This, I reckon, would be easier in the US compared to Germany where I am based. I would be on a week holiday in Edison, NJ during mid-September. If someone nearby could offer to showoff their craft and aircraft , I would be very thankful.

Of course, I would like to visit the facilities in Aurora, but that won't happen on this trip.

From the factory FB page ...[ed. Ken, I enjoyed what you wrote about Mr. Heino. dr]



RV-10 Ready for its Closeup ...Andy Turner

As is often said, they are never done, but with one year and 115 hours, I'll post a photo here. Fresh out of the paint shop. ...


Stainless steel flap tape ...schristo

It's all been done before   Stainless steel flap tape!  Paint wear had begun to become aluminum wear from the flap wing gap seal.  Although I have a strip of UHMW tape under the gap seal it has not kept scuffs from developing. This setup worked fine for the first 500 hours or so but has not prevented wear since then.  Here are a few shots of the wear along with finished fix using 3" tape from McMaster Carr.  ...


Status Update ...David Paule -3B

Finished the new left aileron. I tracked the hours spent on this one. It took about 42.6 hours of my time and perhaps another 1.4 of a friend's who helped me buck the spar top flange rivets. I'd previously done that myself, using an L-shaped bucking bar, a shop light dropped inside the aileron and an inspection mirror. But that's how I damaged it, so this time I got help.

Working on the flaps now. The stiffeners are riveted on. I had a moment of considerable dismay when the retaining spring on the rivet gun unscrewed, the back-rivet set dropped on the floor and the spring propelled the plastic pusher to some mysterious place where it has not been found. You can read about it in this thread, which discusses the effect and its ramifications.

I found that a 7/16" box end wrench, pressed down around the rivet, makes a satisfactory substitute if you should find yourself in that position one day. Just put the end of the back-rivet set in the center of the box end and press the box end down on the parts, holding them and the set securely. It takes both hands but works okay.

I spent the evening figuring out where to put the doubler on the spars. If you do a search for flaps you'll eventually come across a recommendation that the inboard rib be moved inboard 7/8", and that the top flange of the spar be 49.5" long. The 49.5" comes from:

48" from the plans + 7/8" extra + 5/8" = 49.5".

The 5/8" is the flange width of the FL-303 rib and please be careful about where you're measuring, because the plans show 48" to the outboard side of the FL-303 rib, and doesn't actually mention the dimension to the inboard side of the rib.

I meant to follow the 7/8" advice and in fact confirmed it with David Howe, but somehow on my flaps I made it an even 1" instead, since that's where I put the inboard set of stiffeners. So on my plane, unless I can shave a bit from the FL-303 flange (unlikely) I'll use the 1" dimension instead.

The bottom flange of the flap spar is limited by the spar's length as received, 51". The plans say that it should be 51 3/8", I think, but the part itself is only 51".


Travel Update ...Tom Lewis


Enter Kitplanes "Best Of....." Photo Contest! ...Kitplanes mag

Here's your next chance at a $25 gift certificate from Aircraft Spruce:

Next Best of... "Camping with your homebuilt"

People do a lot of things with their homebuilts - and one of them is to load them up and head for the hills - or the forests, or the beach! Let's see your best picture of your homebuilt on a camping trip - we know you've all been to some exotic locations to meet with friends, fish, or just hang out in the great outdoors with a favorite book.

Sanded, filled, epoxy wiped---now need some advice

"...The problem is that there are now small ridges/waves in the epoxy surface. Perhaps I'm a bad squeegee-er or maybe this is to be expected. The ridges are hard to photograph, but they look like linear streaks in the surface---a fatter version of the lines left by a paint brush..."



8/5  0035 UTC
If you need me to help you mow your yard or move or anything like that in the next week, good luck with that. Here is the forecast for the next seven days in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. 108°F next Monday if you believe the weather dudes. I plan on laying underneath an air-conditioning vent in my birthday suit covered in wet rags. Now THERE'S a calendar shot!

'Flash' gets a modeling gig...(click to enlarge)

A few weeks ago I was asked by a hangar neighbor if one of their business contacts could use my airplane in a photo shoot.  Why not?  My neighbor deals in classic cars (myrod.com) and they were going to use one of theirs, then the thought came to include an airplane in there somewhere.

Enter the idiot next door...and I was happy to help.

Anywho, they sent me the test picture above, which I thought I would share (with permission).  I'm always hunting for splash images to use up here on top, and this one seemed like a winner. Their website is www.saddlebackleather.com if you're looking to wrap pretty much anything in leather (smartphone, laptop, rifle, backpack, etc).  I used to have a little leather sleeve my smartphone would slide into that Susie bought off Etsy, but the newer 6plus phone is too big.  Turns out they have one...   


RV-8 w/B-17 ...Ron Townson


Time to get off the fence ...Ian Adams

I have been on the fence about buying an RV for a couple of years, and the time has finally come. After three trips to OSH, countless hours of lurking upon this forum, and numerous build log observations; I have realized that I am not endowed with time or space or motivation to build. I am left with the decision of what to buy. I have decided on these necessities: O(or IO)-360 and a constant speed prop. I would like a -7 or a -7a, due to child and spousal maintenance being best served by non-tandem seating. That being said, the real question is -7 or -7A?

I fly out of Laramie, WY at 7200 feet. We frequently (by which I mean pretty much any time past 6am) have high density altitudes and a high probability of strong, gusty winds. I have a fair number of flight hours (3500 ish), but not a lot of tailwheel time (I just got my endorsement from Greg Koontz- in conjunction with basic aerobatic training). Part of me thinks the location and my experience favor a -7A, and part of me thinks "just get a taildragger and commence to learning."

So, my questions to the good and qualified folks here on the VAF forums: What are your experiences with flying your tailwheel RV's? Have you ever felt limited? Have you ever wished for the crosswind capabilities of a tricycle gear?


Sucker for a Sunset ...Pete Howell pictures


2016 OSH Update ...Rosie


Tip- torque tool for control surface jam nuts


SkyView Software 13.0 Released


Status Report ...Bluelabel (many pictures)

Donations Updated

Year is about 60% over, and 946 donations have been sent in as of today.  Currently there are 20,969 forum accounts - one way to look at it (4.5%).  Another is from the ~10,000 daily visitors (9.4%).  Either way, thank you to those who help keep this site online. 



8/4  0011 UTC

RV-12 BullSession at Bremerton National ...Tony T.

On Saturday, August 22, there will be an annual RV-12 BullSession held at Bremerton National Airport (KPWT).  ...


424JD RV-7 Build Photos ...Jeremy

When I was building my plane, I found build photos extremely useful. I recently put them all in a dropbox folder to share with a buddy building an RV-8 so I figured why not make them available to everyone else. There are lots of them and they are not organized (sorry) but hopefully someone will find them useful.


Time Lapse Construction Videos ...gfb

And here is July. Firewall, bulkheads that never end, and finally starting on the rear fuse assembly.  Two camera views this time!


Postcard sent home from the factory ...L.Hose

Feeling an urge it does not fully understand, the Mountain Banshee returns to the ancestral home of its species and hides among them for the night. The flock appears to be somewhat disturbed at the strange wild creature in their midst....


Polishing Thoughts: Bob Collins 7A

If I were to do it again, I would have taken Jed Gregerson's advice and painted the underside of the plane.


At Oshkosh this year, a gentleman saw me land on 36L, and noticed how the underside lit up purple first and then lit up yellow as I passed over the dots. He finally made his way to homebuilt camping at which time he said, "I've been looking all over Oshkosh for this plane."

So, bottom line: If you want to spend hours polishing for a few minutes of delight at Oshkosh, polish away.

To answer your question: I've used both. I wouldn't use the purple polish anywhere without using the green stuff first. I don't know why, exactly, but it comes out better.

The underside, especially the wings, take a real licking where polish is concerned. Overflow from the fuel tanks runs down there. Occasionally a dribble from spraying leading edges when removing bugs gets down in there. Even smush from the wheels gets kicked up in there. so you get water spots and some corrosion.

So, once a year, you're going to want to compound it with NuVite.


Mystery- What is it?

Was cleaning out the plane over the weekend when I found this on the floor on the pilot side.


New RV-8A owner ...Wade

After looking for sometime for an RV, I decided on the RV8A and found what I was looking for in Jackson, CA. Left home Thursday and flew commercial to Sacramento where the owner/builder picked me up. He had the airplane opened up and together we finished the inspection and got her put back together on Friday evening. He flew me to a neighboring airport on Saturday to meet a instructor and get some transition training. I was amazed at the performance and how nimble and responsive the plane was and needless to say I had the RV grin all day. I left in N9818D after lunch for my journey home stopping in Page AZ for fuel after dodging rain and some storms along my first leg, sometimes having to slow down due to turbulence. Then left Page and made it to Elkhart, KS. The trip was a little over 1000 miles with a fuel burn that turned out to be almost 23 MPG (amazing) at an altitude of 11,500 to 13,500.

This forum has been a big help to me as I have been trying to decide what I wanted. Now I understand when folks on here talk about performance and economy. After feeding a Twin Comanche, I almost feel guilty.

My thanks to Mark, the owner/builder, and Stan for being brave enough to give me some training. Flying is fun again..


Donations Updated....thank you for helping keep this site online. 

Year is about 60% over, and 946 donations have been sent in as of today.  Currently there are 20,969 forum accounts - one way to look at it (4.5%).



8/3  0050 UTC

RV-4 Status Shot ...Saber25

Filed NASA report ...C. Taylor -8

We departed OSH IFR from Runway 27 on Wednesday 22 July. We were cleared to 3000' and directed to contact Milwaukee Departure. Just as we were passed to Milwaukee departure and passing 1800' guess what! Two aircraft at the same altitude, one a piper dead ahead, and a second slightly to our right on the FISK arrival. A brisk turn to the left maintained our separation at about 300 from the second aircraft, a single engine Piper. Neither aircraft appeared to see or take note of us. (Note: no flames please - I understand that IFR aircraft in VMC are responsible for visual separation, which we accomplished.) The purpose of this post is to point out the possible conflict between VFR aircraft under positive control of the FISK arrival controllers with IFR aircraft under positive control of OSH Tower/Milwaukee Departure. The FISK and Milwaukee Departure controllers are not talking to each other. A NASA report has been filed recommending that IFR aircraft maintain 1300' until clear of the FISK arrival.

Oshkosh Ripon Arrival Video (15 minutes) ...and other pics.

New to the forum ...Jim Audette

Hey Guy's... I've been lurking for a while and finally decided to post. I'm a relatively new RV owner... About a year ago I sold my Maule and bought a 1977 V35B. Then my father in law decided he wanted to get back into flying. So we bought the a RV-7A and have enjoyed it immensely! I mostly fly my V35B but am gradually starting to fly the RV more and my father in law is flying it less... I've put about 20 hours on it and LOVE the performance!  ...

RV-10 Blake Gambsky N-----

Well I guess it's my turn to begin posting on the forum. My name is Blake Gambsky, I'm an Embry-Riddle student down in Daytona Beach, FL. Since I was young I had a passion for flight, and of course I wanted my own plane. Well my friend Mary let me ride in her RV-10 after I got my Private Pilot license at 17. After that flight, and learning that her and her husband built the aircraft, my heart was set on it.

Now I'm 20 years old, a junior in the Aeronautical Science degree program at ERAU studying to become a professional pilot. And on top of all of this, I'm working on my own airplane!  ...

This weekends flyin @ KOWK Central Maine ...Dvalcik pics and vid

Kansas to Texas and Back in One Day ...Kurt and Gregg

...[ed. Sorry I missed you Kurt!  Sounds like you had a fun day!  dr]

RV-6 Ground Shots ...Frank

Different Landscape in August ...Vlad


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