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Nov 15, 2019. Issue #4,957.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
Paul Straub Living Room Art ...RV-12
Eagle's Nest Projects - Central HS (WI) - Tyler Moats
1st Solo Flight
After about 19 hours of flying, I (finally)
soloed. All around, it was a pretty cool experience.
I did a few takeoffs and landings with my instructor
and then he hopped out and it was all me. The solo
wasn't too bad... it was a little bumpy but nothing
to complain about. However, it felt pretty great to
know that I had the skills to operate an aircraft
and the confidence to actually do it. Now that I'm
done with my solo I can't wait to pursue and
eventually get my license. -Tyler
Tips for fitting the front canopy skin ...Draker
I think I've had this thing off and back on 10
times in the last three days trying to get a better
fit and it's not cooperating. Any tips for what to
bend, stretch, file or pull to get this thing to
line up with the rest of the airplane? There doesn't
seem to be much build log wisdom out there on this
topic--seems like people get it close and build on.
First up is the fit between the two top skins, shown
below clecoed on:
Do all RV's fly about the same?
Q: I have heard it said that if you learn to fly
one RV, you can fly any RV. Obviously a tail wheel
aircraft will be different from a nose gear type,
but is there some truth to this? For example, if you
train on a -9A, are you ready to fly a -6A as well?
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On the dyno today...
Tailwheel training in a Super Decathlon for RV7 suitable?
my tailwheel RV7 (IO375/CS prop) is not so far away
from first flight. There are still a lot of things
to be prepared, including myself. I am a low time
pilot almost entirely with tri-gears (Katana, 172,
PA28 etc.). Lately i had the chance to make ten T/O
and landings with a flight instructor in a Grob
G109. Fortunatly humans and aircraft were not
damaged at the end of the day. I did not feel well
at all in the G109. So we can assume that i am not
qualified enough to do first flight/phase1.
Now there's a chance to get tailwheel training at a
flight school nearby in a Super Decathlon. My
question to the ones that are more experienced... is
the Decathlon suitable enough get qualified to ride
the RV7? Is it similar, easierer more difficult to
take-off and land?
There are sveral adresses in north america to get
flight training especially for RV's, but we don't
have that luxury in Europe (i am based in Germany).
New First Flights Added
Nov 14, 2019. Issue #4,956.
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
John Goodloe RV-8
Sept. 14, 2019 Open Canopy ...mbauer
Sept 14, 2019 was a very nice day here in Kenai,
Alaska. Temp was mid 60's, a great day for washing
and waxing the RV6 before winter sets in.
A full day was spent at the tie-down. Finally
finishing up around 1830 hours decided to take a
short flight as it was still in the 60 deg F range.
Just washed and waxed, so had a great pre-flight
completed for the controls/skins.
After moving my vehicle to the parking area, walked
back and did a "quick" pre-flight, just in case.
Feeling a little tired, decided it would be a short
flight. After attaching myself to the RV using my
seatbelt/shoulder harness, grabbed the checklist and
read through it.
Did not verify a couple of items, just read through
the list......Was tired and wanting to fly, but
ready to go home as well. Once again verified this
would be a short flight, conditions were as perfect
as you can get in Alaska this time of year, so lets
Called Ground and received taxi instructions. Run up
and time to take the active. Tower cleared me for
takeoff and away I went.
Smooth air no bumps, what a great day for flying. No
clouds the view was excellent. Now where to go?
Flew North towards Nikiski where my home is, then
decided to fly over and see if a friend was having a
barbecue. Sure enough, a couple of friends were
parked in his driveway, decided to get some speed up
for a fly by.
A slight descent and soon was doing 200mph. BANG!
At first I thought the RV had exploded! Wind noise
was present, just sat there thinking the plane was
finished, it was very violent experience.
As the senses came back realized the canopy was
open. How did that happen?
The RV was trying to dive rather abruptly. Applied
normal back pressure on the elevator to correct.
There was no pressure on the elevator, it did not
work. That sensation created the urge to pull the
stick all the way back "FAST".
While this was happening decided I had better make a
call to the Kenai Tower and explain what was
happening, loss of elevator effectiveness. Left
finger on the push to talk, right hand reducing
Tower replied and cleared me to return to any
I remember looking at the airspeed while in the nose
tuck, it was extremely close to redline.
Approx. 2/3 of elevator pulled and the RV leveled
and then started a climb. Once leveled I reached up
with my right hand and grabbed the d-latch for the
roll bar and pulled like crazy, it came way down and
the elevator came back with a rush.
Now established in a climb, was able to almost close
and re-latch the roll bar handle. As the airspeed
dropped below 140mph, got the roll bar latch to
Now time to get scared. Looking around it was very
obvious to see why the canopy opened.
Reading the checklist and not verifying that the
side latch was closed, caused a very sobering
lesson. Pay Attention to the checklist!
Being tired, fat dumb and happy is not a very good
reason for reading a checklist and not checking
physically what you are reading.
Good thing I had plenty of altitude for the flyby,
main reason why was able to spend precious seconds
wondering what had happened, during the nose tuck.
Was caught flat footed, head not in the airplane.
Interesting thing, I could hear each of the several
instructors, from years past, who admonished to keep
flying the airplane.
Boy did I get my head back into flying quickly, as
everything was going downhill!
Rather embarrassed, when arriving at the runway with
fire trucks and ambulance waiting for me. Even after
calling to let them know the canopy was closed. The
ambulance followed me to parking, after a short
conversation all was good.
A week later received a call from the FAA located in
Juneau. Not much to talk about, the caller said he
had investigated a couple of fatal RV canopy open
accidents, and was very happy to be able to talk
One thing, was not able to latch the side lock. It
just wouldn't close in flight, flew back at 80kts to
ensure the roll bar stayed shut. Actually held it
closed most of the way back!
Performing a post flight inspection, the struts were
bent a little. No, problem as I have new ones ready
After an evening thinking about what had happened,
decided to go back and do a very through post
flight. The last I looked the airspeed was near
redline, not sure if RV reached it, so decided to
check everything with a flashlight and magnifying
Besides the struts, found out that it warped the
front edge of the aluminum canopy frame. Popped
paint loose on the canopy frame, it was catching on
the fuselage lip where the canopy rubber seal is.
Using a screwdriver to re-shape the aluminum fixed
Been up several times since then. Each time before
taking the active, verified that the yellow ball is
Subpanel repair question ...kaa RV-7
So, last week my vacuum pump failed and I took it as
a hint that I should finally start my panel upgrade.
The plan is to go from steam gauges to G3X. Now, I
haven't built an airplane, and while I'm pretty
comfortable with the electronics and wiring, metal
work is fairly new to me. So I'd like to ask a few
potentially dumb questions if you don't mind.
In looks like in the course of years the subpanel on
my RV-7 (slider) endured some surgery:
I now need to patch at least some of these holes
to mount G3X components onto. What would be my best
course of action? My current plan is to make a patch
out of a 0.040 sheet and rivet it with a combination
of AD4 where I can squeeze them and cherry rivets
where I can't (I'm not set up for riveting with a
rivet gun). Would a single row of rivets be
sufficient? Given how decimated the subpanel is,
it's probably not very structural?
Also, F-712A-L was also cut for some reason without
any reinforcement. Should I do something about it?
Maybe add a angle stiffener or something?
Thanks for any advice!
Down for Maintenance a Bit: Maintenance Debate ...Ironflight
So we live at an airpark with 30 homes. By my
count, 17 have or have had experimental aircraft, 11
do right now. 18 have had certified - so its about
an even mix. Of the current aircraft, 25 are
certified (one guy has five Stearmans) and we've got
about 15 Experimentals (Louise and I count for five
Yesterday I had some maintenance performed on my
(personal) belly substructure - a non-organic
doubler was installed using standard techniques, and
recovery is better than expected, with only minor
nuisance problems due to my intestinal system being
shut down and waiting on a successful re-light (dang
But now we have a neighborhood debate. We have about
eight licensed senior nurses among our population,
and four A&P's - no admitted medical doctors, and no
IA's. Some nurses might claim that I need to stay on
the ground for several weeks, and then get surgeon's
clearance before flight. I informed the surgeon that
since I rarely pull more than ten pounds (current
lifting limit) on any flight control, I should be
good to go when I am ready to eat an airport
breakfast or burger. The A&P's are questioning if
this is a 'Major Mod', since it involved primary
structure, but I pointed out that while all human
beings in the US are certificated at birth, no one
can produce a TCDS for said certificate - therefore,
we must all be Experimental (and I'd strongly argue
Amateur built...), so Part 43 doesn't apply, and we
don't need a 337.
So, I contend that since flight characteristics
shouldn't have changed (there might be a temporary
restriction on G's of course), no return to Phase 1
is required, a simple logbook entry should suffice,
and the normal medical community's generic "wait a
week" should be fine. Mel, Joe, Vic.....any
arguments from the DAR community?! <g>
In good fun,
Roll-Your-Own 4-place Oxygen System...Paddy
I've built both a 4-place portable system and now
a built-in system in my -10, both roll-your-own
style. The portable uses a Jumbo D cylinder, 4-place
regulator, 4 flow meters and 4 oxysaver cannulas.
The system worked fine for cross country trips with
2 adults and 2 kids, but was a bit bulky with all 4
of the lines in use. It's for sale if anyone is
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RV-7 Build Status Report ...vernh59
Starting to assemble the HS
Our RV Weekend ...Mike K
My wife and I took our first trip in our just out
of phase one RV14a to Memphis. Flew into General
Dewitt Spain M01. Great service at the FBO and
hanger space available for only $25 a night. $8 Uber
ride to Beale street. Great BBQ and music!
Nov 13, 2019. Issue #4,955.
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
The story on how I got to this point ...rolick22
This is the story on how I got to this point on
my Kit build RV-12iS ELSA. I will take you back to
2013 when I first had the idea. Come see how I built
two fuselages and why.
Weekend flight up the Hudson ...Squid
Okay, so it was two weekends ago, but such a good
flight it's worthy of mention. While we still have
the privilege the wife and I took the RV-6 up and
down the Hudson, past NYC at 1100'. Circled the
Statue of Liberty at 900' as well. If you haven't
done this, I'd recommend giving it a try. A total
My New NEBO Flashlight ...a short review.
I bought this online last week for my extra paper
routes (needed big red light for filling out forms
while in cruise at night). You recharge with
your USB port, you could probably blind someone at
night with it (might be more useful than a knife for
protection) and more. I took some pics and
added some captions.
Probable Cause List
(7) new probable cause documents published by the
NTSB since the last update here. Knowledge is
power....read and fly safe.
5MB page. You'll want to be on your WiFi.
NTSB Aviation Accident Final Report - RV-12 Fatal,
Fishers, IN, 08/31/2017
This was brought to my attention by Tom Prevost,
and it didn't show up in the export of NTSB data
when I searched for 'RV' and 'Probable Cause'.
Here's a direct link so you can read it while I
figure out why it didn't show in the query.
Probable Cause and Findings
"The National Transportation Safety Board determines
the probable cause(s) of this accident to be:
The pilot's failure to latch the canopy before
takeoff, and his failure to maintain pitch control
following the in-flight opening of the canopy during
the initial climb resulting in a subsequent impact
with terrain and ground fire."
Nov 12, 2019. Issue #4,954.
At 0937 local Monday the cold front arrived at our
home field - went from 60*F and 00000kt to 25G37 from 340 in
about sixty seconds. I had taken off thirty minutes
earlier looking to hand fly the practice
VOR/DME RW17 approach at nearby Decatur. Airliners
overhead were visible above 3,000' while I pre-flighted, but as
I took off I could see pretty fast that I wasn't going to get to
3,000' without filing - things were lowering quickly. You
could see angry clouds off to the N in the shape of a big fist,
with my name on it, so I turned back. Got in a quick VOR
check off of DFW's TTT over our field and called it a flight
after 11 minutes. It sure got cold fast.
Wrapping the pipes and dragging out the cold Wx gear. So long
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
Took my 29th instrument lesson. Nothing like learning in
your own airplane!
Condition Inspection time week #2 for me, I drug my oldest
out to the hangar to help me with the compression check for
the second year in a row. She learns something, I learn
something and although she won't admit it she feels more
accomplished and a little sassy for the experience. Dad's
also glad to have her along.
Bahamas. Had a business conference to attend in Nassau
this weekend and all was included but the flight. Not a
problem as I prefer to fly myself anyway. Short two
hour flight from Sanford to Nassau. Lots of over water time
but not a problem. Straight Thursday from Sanford to Nassau
on a perfect day then back on Sunday with a stop in Ft.
Pierce for customs. US customs has actually made the process
easier and now there is not even a form.
Icing Heads Up ...bmarvel
When we built our -14A I put a short piece of black
electrical tape on the outboard leading edge of the left
horizontal stabilizer as an ice indicator. Since the surface
with the tightest curvature is generally the first to get
ice, I reasoned that this would be the likely place. When
the black surface started to become white, it was time for
As it turns out, we found out there is another location that
gets ice first and is much easier to see. In our airplane we
stuck with the plans as written and installed the landing
lights in the wing cutouts. These in turn are covered with
Plexiglas lenses which are mounted on the inner surface of
the leading edge wing skins around the perimeter of the
A few months ago on a trip from Colorado to Oklahoma we had
an icing encounter but the first indication was not on the
electrical tape. As I turned my head to inspect the tape on
the horizontal stabilizer, I noted a dim glow from the left
wing landing light area that was clearly visible in
daylight. My wife saw the same thing on the right wing.
As it turned out the tiny ridge between the plexi and the
wing skin is the smallest radius on the airplane and true to
predictions was the first place where ice formed. Each time
the landing light pulsed there was a dim glow from that
area, giving an early indication of even the smallest amount
An altitude change solved the problem but I thought this bit
of information would be a good thing for the rest of you to
toss into your bag of aircraft knowledge for the future.
Grand Junction, CO
RV-8A N751MB -1700 hours, sold
Aera 660 v3.7 is out
Horizontal stab attach - sanity check ...N546RV (RV-8)
OK folks...so I'm at the point of fitting the horizontal
stab and getting the attach holes drilled. I did the holes
between the rear spar and the vertical attach bars tonight -
those are pretty much a piece of cake after checking level
and alignment about 400 times. The holes in the forward
splice angle, though, I'm spending a whole lot of time
reasoning things out before I drill, since it seems like
this is an area where people frequently encounter problems.
The main thing I'm running into is that, as far as I can
tell, it is 100% impossible to drill these holes and
maintain "proper" edge distance (that is, 2x from the center
of the hole). This seems to be a fairly well-known issue,
and digging through past discussions indicates that a) the
mothership knows this and reassured builders frequently and
b) since the bolts are loaded axially (vs in shear), edge
distance is less critical.
In an effort to be super thorough with positioning these
holes - as opposed to simply taking the measurements from
the plans as gospel truth - I did a whole lot of drawing on
the aft deck with a Sharpie. With a little work in Photoshop
for some colored overlays, we can end up with a nice little
visual representation of all the pertinent pieces (I've
omitted the spacers since they don't seem likely to have
edge distance issues):
Nov 11, 2019. Issue #4,953.
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
ADDRESS TO FELLOW-COUNTRYMEN
The White House, November 11, 1919.
A year ago today our enemies laid down their arms in
accordance with an armistice which rendered them impotent to
renew hostilities, and gave to the world an assured
opportunity to reconstruct its shattered order and to work
out in peace a new and juster set of international
relations. The soldiers and people of the European Allies
had fought and endured for more than four years to uphold
the barrier of civilization against the aggressions of armed
force. We ourselves had been in the conflict something more
than a year and a half.
With splendid forgetfulness of mere personal concerns, we
remodeled our industries, concentrated our financial
resources, increased our agricultural output, and assembled
a great army, so that at the last our power was a decisive
factor in the victory. We were able to bring the vast
resources, material and moral, of a great and free people to
the assistance of our associates in Europe who had suffered
and sacrificed without limit in the cause for which we
Out of this victory there arose new possibilities of
political freedom and economic concert. The war showed us
the strength of great nations acting together for high
purposes, and the victory of arms foretells the enduring
conquests which can be made in peace when nations act justly
and in furtherance of the common interests of men.
To us in America the reflections of Armistice Day will be
filled with solemn pride in the heroism of those who died in
the country's service, and with gratitude for the victory,
both because of the thing from which it has freed us and
because of the opportunity it has given America to show her
sympathy with peace and justice in the councils of nations.
Memphis ...Jeff RV-8
Just home from the paint shop. Thanks to Mark
King and his crew at GLO for her new dress. Walt at
EXP then knocked out a new W&B and dialed in the
200RV prop with a dynamic balance. The flight back
home was second only to my first flight! Also, a big
shout out to Karl Richcreek (RV-8) for blazing the
trail on this scheme. I added some personal touches
to keep my Navy flying days close to heart. First
flight was late Sept 2018 and still lovin' every
minute of it!
Flew a friend over to KADS in the RV-6 Friday afternoon so he could
re-position a PC-12NG. Having not been there for many years,
I'd forgotten how busy it is on the ground at Addison.
Waited at the departure end for 20 minutes to take off.
How in the world do students endure that environment?!?!
There were (7) airplanes in front of me (and maybe ten
behind me) on the ramp when they called my N-number for
position and hold. I jumped on that like a duck on a june
Saturday and Sunday I spent about twelve hours
studying PC-12NG POH manuals - all related to trying to earn
some side money for the fam.
*What did you do this weekend with your RV?
Crater Lake Oregon Pics ...vgb
What is the end goal of a build?
A: It's different for everybody.
I am working
away, making rather fast progress on my RV-14 kit. Days go
by as I build, and I feel on top of the world. Other days, I
feel completely incapable.
I am learning so much about myself through this build. One
of the things that has really hit home and become apparent
is that I am a perfectionist. Except I have never built an
airplane before, and I am doing a far from perfect job with
my build. I am not capable of doing a perfect build. Is
there even such a thing I find myself wondering? I am
building an airplane that's going to be safe and certainly
won't fall out of the sky, but I don't think that I will
ever have a showpiece on my hands.
Some days, I am pretty down on myself, wondering if I am
really cut out to be doing my own build. But I want it. I
want it more than anything. This build for me is more about
learning some life lessons, having some fun (it is hard
sometimes), and in the end, having something that I can be
proud of to fly around.
As I find myself missing the PERFECT mark, I wonder what's
out there? When it comes time to sell what will eventually
be my airplane, do people expect perfection? Is an airplane
that's 'safe' what people want? Or am I building something
that nobody will want, despite it being safe, yet not
perfect? Truly, what's the end goal of a build .. an
airplane that is perfect, or just an airplane that is safe?
I doubt I am alone in how I feel. I suspect many builders
have been right here before. I'd enjoy hearing your thoughts
on anything that I've brought up.
She comes to life! ...sapeloson
After 9 1/2 years of frustration, aggravation and
unbelievable excitement, she comes to life!
Checkride Passed! ...Stitch462
After a long time, a few false starts and a lot
of cash; finally completed my training and passed my
Private Pilot Checkride, Sunday Nov 3, 2019. Just
wanted to share that with the group.
Next step: Come up with the cash for an RV-
Happy Humpday everyone!
Weekend ...Jonathan Alvord
Thursday my hanger partner and I took N122EF (RV
7a) from Prosser Wa (S40) Ogden Utah (KOGD) via
Gooding Idaho (KGNG) to go to the I-FLY Utah. Then
Ogden to Alvord Desert, landed for a pee break and
then back. RT 949miles. Friday I flew my wife to a
business meeting in Spokane WA. Landed Felts Field (KSFF)
then flew up to Sandpoint Idaho (KSZT) to trouble
shoot some items. While there we pulled the lower
plugs, cleaned (and dropped one, which then meant
cleaning 4 new plugs and putting it all back
together. Flying back to KSFF to pick up my wife and
returning home S40. Total milage 1248 hours and
approx 8 hrs flight time.
wobble test out of spec.
Just did a Valve Wobble test and all 6 ECI cylinders are
out of spec. Max wobble per lycoming Service Bulletin 388C
for my valve is .035. Cylinders 2,4 and 6 were between .045
and .050. All other cylinders were near or at .035 limit.
I do not have any issues but decided to do the test due to
the hours on the engine. The IO540 engine has 1400 hours
from brand new ECI cylinders and has been running well. Oil
consumption has been 1 qt per 10 hours and borescope shows
good symmetrical pattern on all valves.
So my question for the engine experts is what to do next?
Rework or replace the cylinders that are out of limit? I
hate to do major surgery on a perfectly good running engine
but want to the right thing. The SB, although it indicates
upper limits for valve wobble was issued to check for tight
clearances and sticky valve issue.
A: I would not call it a good running
engine. You are wearing out valve guides like crazy. Why? I
am no expert but something should be done. New valve guides
seems like a good idea.
A: How comfortable are you that your jig or your
technique is not the source of the high readings? Just a
little looseness of the jig on the valve stem, or a little
too much force when applying the side load can make a big
difference. It seems a little odd to me that 3 cylinders
would go bad at the same time. (The ones are limit are not
bad. They could have left the factory that way).
If it were me I would fly another 20 hours and then re-test
them. At the same time I would remove the intake and exhaust
and do a visual inspection on the valve stems. If the first
test is correct I would fly another 50 hours and see if the
The test is meant to find tight valves due to carbon/lead
build-up. A stuck valve is the real enemy. You have good oil
consumption. Worn valve guides should show an increase in
A: How old is the engine? Old exhaust valves can have
Pneumatic Squeezer Injury Lesson Learned ...mulde35d
Lesson 1: Take your finger off the trigger of a pneumatic
squeezer while adjusting the ram depth.
Lesson 2: If your going to accidentally squeeze your
fingertip, try to have flat dies installed rather than
dimple dies. Had this been dimple dies I likely would have
lost the fingertip.
This is what a flat die squeeze looks like on the middle
meaty part of the fingertip. Luckily it was set for
AN426AD4-5 rivets and the dies had about 3mm space between
them when fully pressed.
Hopefully nobody needs to repeat my error to learn this
Milestone: Rivits! ...Ryan V.
Stiffener Oops Question
While match drilling the aft undrilled hole on a center
stiffener I elongated it in one direction significantly. I
re-drilled it up to #33 for use with a 7/64 (half-size) oops
rivet. Two questions:
1) because this is the last hole on the stiffener and not
supported by a standard 3/32 rivet is use of an oops rivet
suitable or should I drill it up to 1/8 for a -4 rivet even
through this will not be aesthetically the best option?
2) If I use a -4 rivet will the shop heads of the two
stiffeners touch since this is right at the bend in the
A: Proseal the stiffeners to the skin and never
I did this to all of mine and the structure is rock solid.
Good way to get your "feet wet" with the proseal (flamemaster...
whatever) before you're mucking around inside of a tank.
A: I would use the oops rivet and call it good.
No need to mess with pro seal just for this. The prep to the
surface you would need to do for proseal would be a much
more work than just using the oops rivet. If you're worried
about the shop heads touching...just over buck both of them
a tad. DO NOT use epoxy.
A: Try presqueezing a 3 to fill the hole you made
before final set in position. You'll learn this technique
later if not now (Murphy is an optimist). If it looks like
too little grip, jump to a shortened 4-4. A dab of proseal
on a 3 wouldn't hurt. I believe Van's still wants a dab of
some stick-um at the ends before closure. That'll help,
A: That's how I did all my control surface
stiffeners. Not a sealed install. Just a thin layer spread
with a popsicle stick. I used a section of particle board,
match drilled and just clekoed them to the skin against the
board. Left for several days to cure. Stiff as a proverbial
Nov 8, 2019. Issue #4,952.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend!
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
Ed Hicks photo.
Correct terminology with ATC or Tower
Q: When under ATC control and changing
frequency what is the current correct terminology to
announce your presence on the new frequency, I have
recently read that "with you" is not correct and
"up" is also not correct.
A: Helpful links:
FAASafety radio comms phraseology and techniques
ATC Phraseology (Wiki)
A Few New First Flights
...recently added to the mothership.
Grass Strip / Homesite Planning ...crabandy
Looking for advice in planning our Grass Strip/Homesite,
it's 660'x2640' (40acres longways north) and
relatively flat. I'm trying to draw up my proposal
to send to the county for the Special Use Permit and
want to be as accurate as possible.
I've walked the property with my "Dirt Guy" and his
advice was to put the runway next to the west side
of the property to work with the natural drainage.
There is a tree row along the north half that I
don't want to tear out as well as I would much
prefer the house/hangar on the West side of the
I was hoping to put the runway on the east side of
the property, this would require a several small
culverts as there is not enough slope for the larger
ones needed. The smaller culverts would also require
vigilance as the adjacent field debris would be
flowing into the culverts. More expensive to build
and work to keep up.
Pics of the property after 8 inches of rain this
spring, You can see the drainage looking north.
An initial sketch of a compromise trying to meet
our Wants, This configuration makes it runway
02/200. "Dirt Guy" thinks this is a good plan, the
south half of the runway would be built up slightly
to funnel the water into the finger of trees on the
south side. It would also dry out the southeast
--Length--depends on the layout but 2300'+ is doable
in all configurations
--Width--60' is a good compromise on cost, use and
--I'm told I want to use Bermuda grass (Kansas)
--Obstacles--Bury powerlines on north, live with
trees on the south. House, Hangar, Trees 100'
laterally from runway centerline.
--House--500'+ off the road
--Zoning requires 150' laterally for house from
--House and hangar on West side of runway, Hangar
door facing east to the runway to avoid the
prevailing north/south winds and summer evening sun.
--Retain some crop land for income.
continue / chime in
Encoder Question ...Pilotjim77
I've been reading here on the forum about ADS-B,
transponders, etc, and I have a question. I am
removing steam gauges and installing a first
generation GRT Horizon dual efis setup. I have a
Garmin GTX 320A transponder. Does the GRT efis
function as an encoder? And if so, is there any
benefit or reason to keep the standalone altitude
I will also be installing the uAvionix Echo ADS-B
package from GRT once they come in (currently back
Prop Bolts Tight in Crush Plates ...Jim Rice
I did not build my RV-4 to know the answer to the
I recently began working on my Condition Inspection.
I noticed some corrosion on heads of the prop bolts
which needed attention. I have the old 4" spool type
prop extension with 3/8" prop/ext bolts and 7/16"
ext/crankshaft bolts. Also, the installation has two
front plates, one on either side of the front
spinner bulkhead. The front has the groove into
which the bolt head fit. The second is larger in
diameter and thickness. (Photos below, though rear
plate is hard to see.)
After removing the nuts from the prop bolts, the
prop didn't want to budge. I attributed that to
continued humid conditions in my hangar at the time.
The bolts were very tight and next to impossible to
move. I ended up using the old nuts threaded back on
the bolts almost flush and then back them off
against a a steel plate resting against the heads of
the crank bolts. That pushed the entire prop and
crush plates out from extension rather than just
moving the bolts as I expected. At that point the
prop was almost clear of the extension prop
bushings. Rather than forcing anything, I called it
a day. I went home and ordered a new set of prop
bolts from Van's that evening.
I went back a few (dry) days later and was able
to slowly work the prop loose and got it off okay.
Even then the bolts were still extremely tight in
the prop and didn't want to move. I took the prop
home and kept it inside the house to help with any
humidity issues. After a couple of days, I was able
to tap the bolts out of the prop...though they were
still tight in the two crush plates/spinner front
Once I had everything off the prop, I worked on
getting the plates, which trap the front spinner
bulkhead between them, off. I ended up putting
penetrating oil on the bolts and was able to pull
everything apart. Once apart, I was able to
determine the bolts were extremely tight in the
front plate, the one with the recess that traps the
bolt heads so they don't rotate, and snug elsewhere,
but not interference fit tight.
I'm a bit concerned about how difficult it was and
that putting new bolts in will possible problems. I
don't want to bugger up any threads and certainly
don't want to have to hammer the heads.
All that said, should the bolts be that tight tight
in the front plate? Should the plate be reamed?
My prop is a Props, Inc wood prop with a 4" thick
hub. I've removed and installed several props over
the years, both wood and metal, and have never had
one this tight.
The plane has approximately 1050 total time
engine/prop/airframe. From looking at the logs, I
don't see anything indicated the prop/prop extension
has ever been separated/removed since 1994. Due to
the tightness, I was expecting some corrosion on the
bolt barrells but found none, though the cad plating
was pretty scuffed up by the time I got them out.
I'm glad I decided to pull the prop off and replace
the bolts now.
See attached photos which will hopefully make my
long-winded description more clear.
Nov 7, 2019. Issue #4,951.
Please excuse the late push for the Thursday edition (9:15pm Wed night).
I worked an extra paper route Tue-Wed and am just now getting
Long day w/Wx, ILSs to mins and Ubers <g>. Home feel good.
Of note the (3) jobs available at the mothership detailed further down (direct
link). Custer Technical Support Rep in addition to the
TIG Welder and Engineering Drafter / Tech Writer.
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
Post First Flight Pic ...Mr. Tom Spencer
Garmin G5 and Aera 660 ...Bcone1381
Q: Greetings Garmin Exprt;
The is probable a dumb question from a novice flat panel
guy. (Experience round dial guy)
I am installing a single G5 (no auto-pilot) and an Aera 660
in a non-RV experimental. I had a harness built up to
connect the G5 to a Garmin GMU-11 Magnetometer. The harness
came with an RS-232 pig tailed off the G5. The GMU-11
communicate to the G5 thru a series of twisted wires called
the CAN bus.
So, I am thinking the RS-232 cable is for a future gizmo.
What would be the benefit to connect the G5 to the Aera 660
dock via the RS-232 cable? Does the G5 allow me to select
between an HSI and PFD view? Maybe the 660 could drive a
Course Deviation Indicator on the HSI view?
Help me understand.
A: (g3xpert) Yes, as David correctly pointed out, an
Aera 660/795/796 can provide lateral and vertical (VNAV)
guidance to a single or dual G5 installation (with or
without autopilot servos) over RS-232.
Calibrating taildragger fuel levels .
Q: In the final throes of this
build... any opinions on leveling a taildragger for the fuel
A: The fuel indications in the EFIS systems we are
using now are so darn accurate if calibrated properly, I
think it makes no sense to not do it in a level flight
Doing it in level flight and ground attitude (on systems
that have the capability) is personal preference but for a
tail dragger I think it is worth while.
Status Report ...vinzer RV-10
And another day when I was able to work on
my project. Now it looks like a read airplane part!
76KTS Tailwind at FL170 ...kcameron years ago
Nov 5, 2019. Issue #4,949.
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
Milestone: First Engine run...rolick22
Please enjoy my first engine run on my RV-12iS (N112DR),
It was a beautifully day at KTZR. Run was perfect with no
First flight ...chevytoo
Nov 2 2019 was the first flight for RV-9A C-FWRN
S/N 91413. Project started June 2006 with a slow
built kit. It has an 0-320 with a Hartzell propeller
and steam gauges. Flight was at Abbotsford Airport [CYXX].
I had an instructor with me as a safety. I was very
glad I had him on board as I was quite nervous
throughout the flight.
The aeroplane jumped off the ground and established
a positive rate of climb. We orbited CYXX at 3500 ft
for .7 hours. Stalled the plane. Some slow flight
but mostly maneuvering the plane. The stall warning
came on at 75 MPH so that was a real distraction. I
did not think to install a separate breaker for it
when I wired it. Maybe a mod soon. My approach speed
was too fast because of the stall warning but the
aeroplane was actually quite easy to control. The
touch down was again too fast so there was something
shimmying. I found the RV-9A to be very light on the
controls and the elevator trim very effective. It
flew level hands off with the aileron trim in
I checked the nose wheel fork friction, it was OK. I
read the instructions and adjusted the vane for the
I hope to fly solo today but waiting for the outside
temp to warm up a bit.
1st Annual Chili Cookoff & Fly-In PIREP ...bkervaski RV-14A
Hey thanks everybody for coming! It was a great turnout
and we'll definitely be continuing next year.
We had folks come from 3 states away, thank you.
If you like football anyone that hung around got to enjoy a
game or two on the "big screen".
It was great seeing everyone!
Next year we'll have some cooking stations setup for anyone
that wants to bring their chili to compete with my "World
Status Report ...jcarne
My new engine mount finally arrived!!! Time to put this
puppy on gear! When I opened the package the kiddo
decided to help unpack. Future builder?
Silent Hektik failure ...Handclutch (Australia)
My Silent Hektik regulator (F4112) failed last week at
around 180 hours. Anybody else had a SK failure?
The failure was quite sudden. I flew a two-hour leg with
voltage indications normal before landing for fuel. Voltage
was then okay on start-up but shortly after takeoff I got
the low-voltage warning (I have the low-voltage warning set
quite high to act as a generator failure warning for IFR
flight). It worked!
It was a very hot day but the temperature strip on the
regulator had maxed at 71* C, less than what I had
previously seen on the Ducati. However, it is possible that
the SK had seen slightly higher temperatures previously
before I modified its cooling system.
Now for something interesting - I did a Google translation
of the SK website and found that they don't guarantee the
regulator unless you use phosphor bronze crimp connectors.
Here is what they say:
Wrong connectors on the 912er alternator connection:
The LiMa connector plugs of the 912 engines are of inferior
brass. That's a massive problem for three reasons.
- The brass plugs are not designed for the high currents,
with up to 20A, and therefore overloaded and prone to
- The brass plugs have a low spring force and are therefore
not vibration-proof and loosen over time.
- The brass plugs have no surface protection and oxidation
then produces brownouts and malfunctions.
For safety reasons, therefore, we only recommend Tyco FastOn
tinned phosphor bronze connectors . Everything else is
Could this be a reason why there are so many regulator
Status Report ...goatflieg
When I finally got out to the shop to inspect the
situation, it turned out to be a simpler fix than I thought
it would be. A bit awkward, to be sure, but I was lucky. No
wires in the way, and the pilot holes were just sitting
there waiting for me. Triple check the plans, remove the
floor, enlarge the CORRECT holes, disconnect the cables and
reroute, install snap bushings and reconnect cables. I'll
sleep better tonight than I did last night. Big thanks to
Chris for taking the time to point out my error, and to
Chris, Carl and Don for encouraging me to do it right. If I
can ever return the favor, don't hesitate to ask.
My RV Weekend ...some entries
Flew from CRQ to AJO and was picked up by Spruce.
While there, I purchased an iFly 740B which I plan
to try out on my Oregon trip the next two days. If
all goes well, I am interested in removing my Garmin
496 and replacing it with the iFly GPS. While doing
so, I'd like to add a navcom, so I have two comms,
and a VOR receiver (which I'll hook up to my Dynon).
1.2 hours added to the RV. I always have a blast
flying it around...
RV-9A, Carlsbad Ca (CRQ)
Went flying in a 7A and then joined the flying club
that owns it.
Super pumped to be back into an IFR traveling
First RV experience and man are they fun.
Well, I changed airports this weekend...Moved my 7A
from KGRE Greenville,Il. to KPJY Pinckneyville-DuQuoin,
Il. ...1/2 the distance to my house, much cheaper
hangar rent, and much less air traffic. Loving the
quiet... Also, even thought I am hangar-anal and
well organized, you just never know how much
you have until you have to box it up, move it, and
It's not for the faint of heart.
Brian K. Morrow
Full Flap Take Off RV10 ?
Landed on little Island in Chesapeake Bay (KTGI) for
late Lunch. All Ferry Boats and Tourists were gone
so the 3 places to eat had already closed. Assumed I
would need the "HOT START" procedure but after
cranking and NO Joy the battery's began to slow
crank. OOPS! that didn't work well, so opened up the
Oil Door and sat alone "AOG" for 20 mins on the
desolate airstrip. Try again: Blades going by slower
and slower, then Vroom ! We got it going! Rattled
and excited I decided to keep most everything turned
everything OFF while charging the batteries. Heading
down the Runway and my son calls out:
Dad..Flaps..Dad..Flaps ! I was already at 60 knots
and keeping the mains on the ground I flipped the
Flaps switch and watched them SO SLOWLY retract. at
half flap I was running out of runway so I pulled
back rotated and launched. I was amazed at how quick
the RV10 JUMPED into the air with still half
flaps~!! My Son handed me the checklist and said
'Lets NOT do that again! But still a Wonderful
weekend with a good reminder to not get rattled,
READ the Checklist! I have to wonder what would've
happened if we did rotate at full flaps ?? Ed N40ES
200KT GS ...Plummit
Coming back from Big Bear this morning:
Nov 4, 2019. Issue #4,948.
Please excuse the early push for Monday (Sun 10am) - I'm doing a side
thing Sunday afternoon in exchange for extra shekels for the
familia. Beautiful Wx here in N. Texas all weekend.
Hope you got to do some RVating. I'm planning on a hop or
two this coming week to get the juices going.
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
Finally cleaned out my garage ...wjb
rest of the story)
Flying with 3-4 year old in RV-4 ...Indy
Any recommendations on how to best seat a
preschooler in an RV-4? I just got my RV-4 back
after 2 years overseas. My 3 year old daughter loves
airplanes and LOVES pretending to fly in the -4. I'm
eager to take her for her first small airplane ride
but struggling with how to strap her in. I tried her
car seat but the headrest obstructs the rear canopy
bar. I want her to sit high enough that she can
actually see out over the canopy skirt but ensure
her safety first and foremost.
Why I love the experimental world ...fbrewer
Yesterday, 8 of us "Boys with Toys" (all RVs)
flew to Llano for some Coopers BBQ.
You know it was great!
Flying home we briefed up a 4-ship flight to do some
Sitting number 2 on the wing of Bobby "Luke" Lucroy,
I hear the dreaded: "Bogie", you need to abort. Your
left wheel is leaking hydraulic fluid - lots of
Dang, we eventually clear the active, so the other
folks can depart, and of course "Luke"
sympathetically aborts with us.
We slowly taxi our bird back to the ramp and then
took the opportunity to practice turns to see when
the tail wheel would unlock and so forth. Actually
it was a good mindset practice, should we lose a
brake ever in the future.
Here is the kicker: "Luke" has everything needed in
his go-bag. We removed the left wheel fairing, and
dissasembled the left brake, and found the o-ring in
the piston was indeed broken.
Replaced the o-ring (of which "Luke" had several
spares), reassembled the caliper and then of course,
"Luke" had almost everything needed to bleed the
brakes. We were short a little on the hydraulic
fluid. Oh, and he had safety wires and a safety wire
pliers so we could put it back together properly.
But of course, a local at the airport ("Estes") had
some hydraulic fluid which promptly brought over.
From abort to repair to again taking off, we were on
the ground less than 2 hours.
This is why I love the experimental world. If I had
been in my Bonanza or single ship, we would have
Thanks "Luke". Thanks "Estes". Thanks "Experimental
David-aviator ...an online friend passes
(Bill Peyton post) We have lost another member
and prolific builder. David Domeier passed away
yesterday evening suddenly after returning home from
the airport. He had just finished an RV-12 project
with a good friend and repeat builder. He was active
in the St Louis builder community and EAA and a good
friend to all of us. Dave had to his credit a Cozy,
RV-7, and RV-8. He was a retired TWA captain and US
Air Force aviator. Aviation was surely in his blood.
David will be missed by all of us ....
Status Report ...kentlik
ADAHRS. Waiting/looking for a rivet partner so I
installed the ADAHRS and mounting bracket that Vans
It is pretty darn good. I would caution that the
tab stops in my case were 90% correct but I needed
to adjust elevation at the right rear tab to
maintain level. This would be facing the tail.
This is just my case, your application may not need
RE Carb Fuzz in an NTSB Report ...rvbuilder2002
"...it doesn't sound like the foreign material in
the carb screen was a factor in this unfortunate
accident. In fact, my guess would be that it
had been there for a long time since there was no
indication of the same material in the gascolator
screen or pick-up screens in the fuel tanks. Likely
because the gascolator screen was probably getting
regularly maintained during inspections, like it is
supposed to be, but the inlet screen on the carb.
was not. Fairly common, unfortunately.
Good reminder for RV owners. Do you know that the
carb. or fuel injection servo you have on your
airplane has an inspect-able / cleanable inlet
Status Report ...goatflieg
[ed. This is what you call a 'teaser shot'.
The First 8 Hours ...ty1295
Having spent years on here reading while I built,
I am hoping this post helps others or at a minimum
inspires others to keep building.
9/24/19 Vic S. came up and did my Airworthiness
inspection. As expected and requested he had a few
minor suggestions which were all accomplished.
9/30 First flight 1 hr. I studied and used a local
RV8 owner, CFII as my 2nd pilot per AC 90-116. For
anybody considering a first flight and like me a low
time pilot and/or one that has not flown much if any
for awhile while you were building I can't stress
enough how valuable that was for me, yet allowed me
to experience the "FIRST FLIGHT!"
I left the Aeliron trim completely off for the fact
as I wanted to know if a wing was heavy without any
influence of the trim. I am happy to say with even
tanks, and fairly even people weight, it flys hands
off first flight.
For the first flight we climbed over the airport,
ran the engine hard to help with break in, and just
circled, followed by full decowl and inspection.
Things will rattle loose, things you never thought
would. Be aware.
First 2 flights were all done over the airport
3rd flight was away from the tower but not far,
basic check things out and come back.
4th flight was a 50 mile trip to another airport to
get the transponder checked/certified. Until this
point the transponder circuit breaker was pulled
out. Full Dynon avionics, transponder/ads-b check
Return flight we set the Angle of Attack, followed
by a few touch and go's as we both felt the engine
As of Today we now have 8.2 Hours done. In that time
we probably have 25 landings, stalls, accelerated
stalls, slow flight, no flap landing, covered
airspeed landings (with safety pilot watching), base
to final stall (up high), simulated power out,
basically anything my Qualified Pilot/CFII could
throw at me to learn.
I have to say, this is one awesome airplane. Very
easy to fly, talks to you way before it does
something dumb. If you are looking for a good
enjoyable, non aerobatic airplane to fly I don't
know how you could make it perform any better.
Status Report ...SteeVaun RV-7
Has been a busy few weeks getting my feet wet
with the build. I started on the rear and front
spars. While drilling relief hole for the front
spar, for some reason I had 3/4 in my head instead
of 1/4. As a was drilling I knew something was not
right. I should have stopped then and double
While waiting for a replacement, I moved onto the
vertical stabilizer. Everything is all match drilled
and ready to be primed.
Nov 1, 2019. Issue #4,947.
You know that awesome feeling when your computer calendar tells you your
annual is due, and then you look in your logbook and see that
you entered the date wrong in the computer and that you really
have three months to go? I know, right?!?! I thought
my plane was down for annual starting today, but it's not.
Garbage IN Garbage OUT. Big smile.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
VAFcast #7 ...James Walsh RV-4
Initial Contact ...new guy chimes in.
Hey everyone. Finally at 48 I'm getting my private pilots
license (only about 26 hours so far) and am looking at Vans
RV (9, 10 or 12)as my first plane. Been wanting to get my
license for awhile and finally have the time and money to do
it. I don't want to make a career out of it. I'm a time and
point in my life that I don't have to work and want to enjoy
some nice flying, maybe get a job at an airport and hang
around what I enjoy. I got the majority of my hours on a
Cessna 162 and one time in a 182 so I don't have a wealth of
info on what's out there and what I might like, I just know
I didn't like the 162, too **** cramped (6' and 205) and no
adjustability. Not really jazzed about the 172's either. I
have motorcycles and cars that are immaculate and every
Cessna I see, it looks like it's had a rough life. I know
that's probably not the right way to look at it but that's
how I see it. Every Vans AC looks like someone took their
time on it and put some pride in it. I don't see a lot of
weathered Vans out there.
I know that a lot of the Vans have Rotax engines that spin
pretty fast and they sound like they're pretty reliable
since everyone is sticking a 912 in 'em. What is the red
'spar pin' button for? I know one model has removable wings
(12?) but don't know why it's in the other ones. I see
mixture leaning levers in some airplanes and not others so
I'm wondering if the majority of the 912 don't need it, is
that the allure of them? I like the glass cockpits but am
not opposed to steam gauges, just wondering if electronics
are just as reliable.
I know I'll learn a lot from just reading forums and I'm
basically in my 'sponge' stage, asking questions about
everything and trying to learn as much as I can from anyone
who'll entertain me or allow me to pester them about tedious
'what's that' questions. There's tons I don't know and I
hope to learn a lot with everyones knowledge here.
Thanks for letting me ramble on, I'm glad I'm here.
Pics: Jlinett RV-10 First Flight ..Jlinett
F-1070 / F-1069 / F-1013 skipped rivets ...rdamazio RV-10
In section 29, when riveting the side skins (29-17), it
tells me to skip a few rivets, notably some specific rivets
that attach to the longeron underneath:
I assume these are riveted later, but I can't find where
- what am I missing? When are those rivets set?
(I'm mostly wondering if it's worth/possible to skip ahead,
do whatever is needed before setting those, then setting
them before the mid-cabin deck is riveted, since that'll be
Rodrigo Damazio Bovendorp
San Jose, CA
Fuel line supply and return routing ...AdamB RV-10
I'm currently routing my flex fuel lines out to the side
skin area and looking at where I should drill a 2nd hole in
the side skins.
I have a standard setup where the brake lines are in the
middle, supply line forward, and return line in the aft as
they go through the systems bracket under the seats.
Tom had advised to go as straight as possible to line up
with where they go through the systems brackets, but the
gear weldment is partially in the way. The other factor is
that I placed my return fuel bung on my tank just forward of
the vent and not inline with the supply.
So what I was thinking is one of two things.
1) Drill a hole forward of the hole of the aileron control
connection hole sort of vertically inline with the stock
fuel line hole and route the supply through it, and the
return through the stock hole.
2) Drill a hole aft of the aileron control connection hole
and higher than the stock fuel line hole.
I've roughly marked the 2 proposed locations in the picture
Also a Picture of my fuel return location on the tank for
Wanted to get others take on what the best option might
be or things I might not have considered before I start
RV10 - #41687
Oct 31, 2019. Issue #4,946.
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
Best Halloween costume ever ...prkaye
My daughter Arya decided she wanted to be a
Snowbirds pilot for Halloween this hear (her idea).
Check out the costume we made! Give her 15 years and
she'll be wearing the real thing!
Calendar for Your Monitor ...Ed Hicks photo
(from Ed) "UK RV's taken at the Light Aircraft
Association Rally, held in September."
The RV-10 Sub-forum (in the VAF Forums)
Panel Status Report ...knut 9A (Berlin, Germany)
"...Not finished yet, some labels are missing,
some are temporary. It's a lot of fun to play with."
Eagle's Nest Projects - McKinney Aviation Academy
The camaraderie at our McKinney campus is nothing
short of inspiring. Building an airplane at McKinney
is truly a family affair and it's made possible by
the untiring efforts of the MAA Booster Club. The
booster club plans and sponsors frequent socials,
educational events, and fund raisers; all with a
focus on "family". The booster club also provides
annual scholarships to build students. McKinney
Aviation Academy ROCKS!
** Mark your calendar for Sat, Nov.2nd - MAA Annual
__ 11am-3:00pm__ Free Admission__ McKinney Airport (KTKI)
MAA Halloween Party - 2019
Theme: "Crime Scene"
Oct 30, 2019. Issue #4,945.
I drove out to
Monk's Tuesday around lunch to eat with the usuals. In
his hangar is a new RV-8 to the field, and the armrest on the LH
side aft of the throttle quad caught my attention. I can't
remember seeing this before, but I could see how this might be
of benefit if you spent a lot of time on the wing in formation.
Two pics below that can be clicked for larger versions...
Second, my hangar neighbor is selling a NEW IN BOX uAvioni tailBeacon for
$100 off what he paid (it won't fit on his planes).
More info and pics. I can vouch for its newness and
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
Our Friend Mel Ordered a New Knee
(friends chiming in.... ;^) )
I hope they put the hinge on the right way!
Good luck with the aftermarket parts Mel!
I suspect you will see a significant improvement in
your 40-yard sprint times...
And don't forget, now's the time to add an inch or
two if you want to have more stature (or see over
the cowling on the Cub)....
Primed or unprimed?
My doctor told me, "I fixed
your knees. You can't hurt them by doing more PT."
Put not thy faith in the weather prophets...
...For they shall not come to thy aid when the
firmament riseth up to smite thee.
Not specifically RV related, but I thought I'd
share. Back in the old days, weather prep for local
flights frequently consisted of going outside &
looking up. if it was questionable, you might take a
peek at the temp/dew point. With that being said,
one of the things that was hammered into me 30+
years ago was to always have an out, and be ready to
use it, which is why I typically have a plan B
airport in mind (not just for weather, but you get
the idea). I also typically carry an Ipad with local
approach plates in my bag, no matter how great the
weather. Even with that said, with all the tools at
our disposal now it's easy to put more faith in
forecasting that ever before, but it's also easy to
get burned by that if the forecast turns out to be
I had 3 training flights scheduled today, with the
first one scheduled at 0600. Cold, but clear
forecast. We got metars & TAFs for the local area at
0600 and they were showing good VFR conditions. The
temp dew point was about 2 degrees apart, but it was
predicted to go in the right direction as the sun
came up. The TAF for both Wichita Mid-Continent and
McConnel AFB predicted "Few at 7500" and visibility
+6 until 1500 local, then scattered 1,200' gradually
going IFR over the following few hours.
Took off in CAVU conditions and went about 10 miles
east for Private pilot maneuvers, and saw that there
was some ground fog in the low-lying areas, but no
big deal, then I looked back west and saw a few
scattered low level clouds starting to come in from
the west side of Wichita. A few minutes later I
looked again and saw that they were now more
widespread and appeared to be heading east, where
they would soon be rolling over my home airport.
I cut the lesson short and headed for home, with
plan B to land at the closest airport (K3AU) if
Beech field closed in before we got there. Plan C
would have been to pick up a local IFR and shoot an
LPV approach back into Beech or an ILS into
Mid-Continent, but I can't say I'm thrilled by the
idea of a precision approach potentially down to
minimums in a non-FIKI airplane in widespread
un-forecast weather with an OAT of 28 degrees, so
plan B was going to be my out.
We landed with time to spare, but not much. 1/2 hour
after I was back in the chocks, the AWOS at BEC was
saying 300 BCN. 1/2 hour after that, Mid-Continent
was reporting 300 Overcast, with 0.75 visibility. At
0915 local, Mid Continent issued a New TAF that
predicted 400' Ceilings and 2 miles vis. Not much of
a prediction since that weather had occurred an hour
prior to them issuing it.
I've got around 2,500 hours total time in all sorts
of conditions, but I can count on one hand the
number of times the weather has closed in on me that
fast. Also, I don't recall ever seeing the
forecasters, especially the military ones, missing
the mark so badly. I'm not complaining or
criticizing them. Mostly I'm sharing all this as a
reminder that weather forecasting is a prediction,
not a guarantee. No matter how good the forecasting
gets, sometimes there's still no substitute for just
looking out the window and saying "hey what's that
cloud doing out there?"
New option: Step "bullet" plugs for your RV-12/12iS ...mothership
We've put together a little kit with special
"bullet" plugs that you can install in the open ends
of the entry/exit step tubes on your RV-12, which
will of course make it look completely awesome,
potentially reduces pain involved with shin
collisions, and probably adds something like 20
knots! Ok, well, at least two of those results is
true. The kit includes installation instructions.
Good to go for ELSA, SLSA or of course EAB
Wanna Be In Kitplanes?
Push Button Start and Mag Toggle Switches
I know that this topic has been addressed before,
but I'll be the first to admit that when it comes to
wiring, I start scratching my head near immediately.
So the searches I've done (Google and VAF) have
offered some diagrams, but nothing I've been able to
successfully figure out.
I have a push button start and two toggle switches
(NKK S-6AL) and I'd like to wire them in such a way
that with both switches up, the right mag
(non-impulse coupling) grounds. I'll have two
From what I understand, this should be possible with
the switches I have.
But as soon as I look at all of the connections on
the back of these switches, my brains turn to water.
Does anybody have a kindergarten-level explanation
or drawing that would help?
My 'About to Throw in the Towel' Entry ...cmadams52
I'm feeling you. I just destoyed most of my VS.
Parts ordered and moving forward. At least I get to
change my primer to something I like more. Plus,
thanks to the practice, this thing will be perfect.
I'm sure I will mess up something else down the
line. Best wishes on your project. You've got this!
Oct 29, 2019. Issue #4,944.
Got off the surface Monday in the RV-6 (first time since the 16th), and
oh boy did it feel good to get off the surface. Not a long
flight (.2), but enough to call the back spasm episode of '19
done and in the books. Life is good.
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
Slo Mo RV Motivation ...vid
James, Rob and Plaster were out 3-shipping and
TnGing, and I got some of their take offs and
landings with the iPhone on Slo Mo. You're
gonna want to watch this clip on WiFi as it's around
145MB in size. SloMo sound takeoff vs
rollout is funny. You can really tell the diff
between the FP and C/S props.
Just goofing off...'Out of Africa' it ain't.
RV-10 First Flight ...mlinnett
July and I took just over 3 years to build the
RV10 quick build kit. We have a Barrett engine,
Hotel Whiskey extended tanks, Anti Splat cowl flaps,
airflow air conditioning , Fly LEDS lighting ,and a
panel by Rob Hickman's team at advanced. Mel Asberry
inspected the plane on 10/25/19 and we got it ready
for the first flight on 10/26/19. Our first flight
was from 5TX0 to KGLE where we met Justin Wylie in
July and I could not have built the plane without
the help of our friends and neighbors Marc Wiese,
Matt Plaisier, Rick Kazubec, Joe Migis, John Watson,
Bob van Duyn, Myron Nelson, Justin Wylie, Gary Zilik,
and Tony Kirby.
Life Update: Away Time ...TS Flightlines (our friend Tom)
As some of you know, My wife Suzanne has been
battleing MBC Breast cancer since January of 2018.
Some of you know what struggles those are, having
lived them your selves. A bunch of you are in the
medical profession and have gives advise and support
for quite a while now.
In April, she had PET scan that showed dramatic
healing of the damaged area in the ribs, vertebrae
and other affected areas. The change in Onocologists
and treatment regiment was working. So we planned
and booked a trip for late October. So throughout
the summer, we monitored her progress and with the
blessings of her DR, started finalizing our plans. I
had already booked and paid for the trip, so it was
a matter of getting her ready to go.
Well in all best laid plans, some things crop up to
try and spoil things. MRI of several weeks ago
showed some very small cells that had migrated to
the brain. FORTUNATELY, we had seen another
Nerosurgeon on another, non related matter, and he
suggested a procedure called Gamma Knife. You
medical folks know about that. We had that procedure
this past Thursday, and they said to go and have
fun. Well the have fun part maybe not so much, but
certainly going for an attitude adjustment.
So, we'll be gone from Tuesday OCT29 to Monday Nov
11. This is where I say not to worry. Prior
planning--actually several years ago-- enabled us to
merge into a Joint Venture with Aircraft Specialty,
call Aircraft Specialty Flightlines. We started a
3rd production facility in Wisconsin (now in
Milwaukee) that enabled me to concentrate on
prototypes and other development items. For the past
18 months, most of our orders have been shipped from
there, although some custom items we still do here.
A seamless transition. Steve Tschurwald has been a
fabulous business partner, as well as a friend, and
together we set this up for the mutal benefit of
ourselves, as well as our clients, YOU.
So even though I wont be in the shop, we can still
process any orders that you need. ( Internet and
email are wonderful!) I'll have some limited cell
service, and with time differences, phone calls
might be challenging, but I can certainly respond to
emails and voicemails. So, fo you, there wont be any
interruptions in shipping services.
Its been a long, challenging and emotional 2 years.
So we're going to take 2 weeks and enjoy life, come
back and refocus on things. I have to say here that
Suzanne and I REALLY appreciate the emails and phone
calls from those of you that knew about her issues.
You have no idea what it means to have that support.
And gee, alot of you are voices on the phone, or
email addresses, all connected by the Experimental
aircraft community. You think that you are talking
to a airplane client, then the conversation changes
and he or she is an Onocologist, or a Radiation Dr,
or some other specialist that has given alot of
advise and unconditional support. You guys know who
you are. Believe it or not TOO many to actually name
here--probably 20-30. And we thank you for it.
Tom and Suzanne.
My RV Weekend ...Dugaru
"...I met some fellow RVers (at least 5 were on
hand) and generally had a great time.
As always, 9JA was open for business for anyone who
wanted to sit in it and make airplane noises:"
My RV Weekend ...smokyray
In a word: Durango
Yup, up to CO and back, the flying collection of
spare RV projects parts brought together by Divine
intervention I call "The RVX" once again delivered.
1500 miles of gorgeous US ofA drifted beneath the
wings and my salvaged 0360J2A was flawless.
All of NM passed under the wings in less than
My RV Weekend ...crabandy
I made a quick out and back to KPIA to pick up an
RV buddy after an OT shift on Friday.
My RV Weekend ...Carl RV-6A
Flytoday - each day, Sat & Sun
Finished two week trip, by WN, to LAX late Friday,
so flew the -6A around SE Houston on Sat and Sun
afternoons. Following frontal passage on Friday the
visibility was outstanding and the temps cooled
nicely. Spotted my Lone Star Squadron friends,
3-ship, returning Sunday from the Reklaw fly-in, and
felt the need to follow and fly-by to salute their
Saturday, final to Runway 35 at KLBX
My RV Weekend ...SPX
Flew from Carlsbad, CA down to Brown Field to
pick up something. Transited the San Diego VFR
corridor, which even with me being used to an
airplane going Mach .80, still was a busy few
minutes. It was my first time through..
Left Brown Field and decided to head over to
Montgomery Field to pick up a new fuel strainer and
some lunch. Back through the VFR corridor again,
this time on a trip only 19 NM long. The corridor
drops you off about 3,000' high on a left downwind
for the 28's into MYF. Fortunately with some
advanced planning, the RV does just fine doing a
After leaving Montgomery Field, it was back to
Carlsbad via the coast.
Great way to spend a bit of time. Really love the
Build Update ...2of5 RV-14A
I've been too busy building (and working to pay
for it all) to make any updates, either here or on
the blog rv14a.ca. Until today.
I finally started populating the blog with all the
pictures of my progress so far, as well as some
lightweight descriptions of my experiences to date.
So far, I've got the vertical stab complete and
ready to rivet up to the point of leaving the rear
spar (completed) off for the MD-RA inspection
required here in Canada. The rudder, likewise. I
will need to call my assigned inspector and ask him
how far he wants me to go on the rudder so that he
can inspect. In contrast to the -7 rudder I was
building before, the -14 has lightening holes in the
rudder spar, so he may be able to see everything
enough to let me finish the entire thing. We'll see.
I've also got the horizontal stab skeleton ready to
rivet together, however I've run into a stopping
point. The yoke on my Main Squeeze won't work on
this substructure, so I'll have to order a longeron
yoke first thing tomorrow from Cleaveland. My aching
biceps and shoulders may convince me to order a
pneumatic squeezer while I'm at it. I did pick up a
tungsten bucking bar this week, and I'm looking
forward to trying it out on the VS. I even picked up
a roll of hockey tape to wrap it in so I don't mar
my sweet AKZO primer.
Two goofs so far, which I've described in the blog:
first was trying to separate the rudder bottom rib
904A and B using sheet metal snips. The snips bent
the rib flange enough to crack it ever so slightly,
so I tossed that part in the scrap bin and ordered a
new one. Which the USPS lost, and I had to pop for
another one at no cost (thanks Vans!) but I did have
to pay for 2 Day FedEx shipping. The original lost
shipment did finally show up over six weeks later,
which I refused and sent back to Vans.
The other goof was last night, when I discovered
that I didn't countersink the HS front spar deep
enough in twelve places. After I squeezed all the
rivets. I guess I was a little apprehensive about
taking too much metal off, but it wound up costing
me time in the end. I did manage to drill out all
twelve rivets with not a spot of damage. I attribute
this to the practice I had disassembling an entire
Cessna 140 fuselage earlier this year -- I probably
drilled out over five thousand rivets. I did replace
the flawed rivets, and was able to prime the new
countersinks with some SEM sprayed into a cup and
then dabbed on with a cotton swab. I didn't feel
like mixing up some AKZO for twelve holes.
Speaking of AKZO. That stuff is great (no primer war
please). And I've made a decision that some may deem
foolish, but I have been priming both sides of the
empennage skins. I did some searching online, and
found a couple of threads here that described using
AKZO on external surfaces during the build. The
consensus by those in the aerospace industry was
that priming externally won't really hurt anything,
the finish painter will just need to wetsand and
prep before shooting another coat of
topcoat-compatible primer. So I will have extra
time, money and energy into full prime, as well as a
small weight penalty, but I'm ok with it. I probably
will do my own exterior painting as I go along
anyway. I'm leaning toward PPG Ford Mustang Orange
I already had the bulk of my tools from the -7
build, but I did spring for the RV-14 specific tools
available from Cleaveland recently, including the
modified dimple dies, the elevator bucking bar, the
safety pin rivet squeezer set, and some others. I
also got their substructure dimple dies for dimpling
the ribs and other parts.
As winter is on the way, we had to move almost
everything to the basement, where I'll continue
assembly of what I have so far, then begin prepping
the elevator and the tailcone. Figure that will take
me to spring, when I can prime those items and
finish up. Hoping to order the wing kit after the
first of the year.
And finally a hint to those of you with municipal
recycling programs. Not sure how it works in other
places, but here in Ontario, recycling bins seem to
be subsidized by the government. Meaning I can go
around the corner to my local Home Hardware and pick
up small bins for $3 each, large bins $6. These are
heavy plastic, and much cheaper than buying
Rubbermaid bins to store parts in. So I've obtained
about six or seven small bins and a couple of large
ones, and parts are segregated by type into these
bins, i.e. E- in one set, HS- in another, then the
wiring harness, cables, etc. in another, then stored
on my wire bakers rack or underneath the EAA 1000
tables I'm using.
Oct 28, 2019. Issue #4,943.
A nice weekend in N. Texas. The back is better each day and Suz and
I had lunch with our son down at SMU on Saturday. Hope you
had a nice weekend, and if you got out and about in your RV, let
in this thread.
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
My RV Weekend ...Vlad
1st flight N61LD ...LD Blake of Wynne, AR
The big moment came today with a flawless first test
flight. No words can describe the event.
Front of Air Ramp Sticks Up...JDA_BTR
Despite my best efforts the air ramp and
filter holder on the left side always puckers up away from
the snorkel fiberglass. Just enough that when the engine
shakes at shutdown (or startup too prob) it rubs on the
cowling and frets/wears. And it doesn't look right too.
So I drilled some #52 holes through it all and put in some
wire to hold it down. Curious what pitfalls anyone forsees.
I suppose the cowling seal will not lay entirely flat here
but it shouldn't make a big difference it's a small wire.
When it puckered up it wasn't exactly laying flat anyway and
I'm sure air went forward under the sandwich here as a
baffle leak. This might actually be better never will know
unless I get a 200 MPH fan to blow into it while I inspect
We Have Another Vlad!!! ...Vlad Milos (RV-10)
I just ordered my tailcone/empennage kit for RV-10 and can't
wait to receive it and start my project.
I am sure there will be tons of questions from my side, so
for now I read this forum and trying to remember as many
things as I can
By the way I am based in Canada (British Columbia).
My RV Weekend (two weekends back) ...Jonathan Alvord
N122EF Weekend Skydiving trip
Our weekend was a bit of breeze! My wife had a few
lectures/presentations to give in Southern
California/San Fran and I had opted to stay home and
told her to fly commercial. Well of course
distractions happen and I received a phone call
asking to bring some items down. I looked at the
weather and called my hanger partner/Skydive DZ
owner and he was game.
We met at the hanger in Prosser Wa (S40) at 3am,
fueled up, filed flight plan and off we went. 3
hours to Sacramento (KMCC) all mostly VFR at night,
and landed as the sun was starting to rise. The CA
fires made for a beautiful Sunrise. Refueled and off
we go to Riverside (KRAL) which was a very smooth
ride until we descended down into the Ontario basin
and hit some pretty moderate turbulence. All things
aside another uneventful leg. Dropped off the items
my wife wanted, grabbed some breakfast sandwiches
and then planned the next leg.
Originally we were wanting to fly in to Perris
Valley and make a couple skydives there from the big
planes, but the weather gods frowned on that and
after talking with the DZ decided to head to
Mesquite NV (67L) where a friend of ours is a Tandem
instructor and surprise him. That took us over Las
Vegas at 12.5k and on flight following got to hear
all the Commercial planes being held below 10K for
the RV 7 flying VFR over the Class Bravo! Wahoo! We
landed and were able to jump on the last load of the
day for fun jumpers and pulled off a couple
three-way points (started as a 6way). Got a room at
the local casino and gorged ourself on the Buffett.
Retired to the room and was out like a light by 7pm.
Saturday we woke up, grabbed some breakfast, played
(and won) the slots and Blackjack for an hour, then
headed back to the Dropzone/Airport in Mesquite
where I made two jumps, and my passenger was hired
for a Tandem jump while I preflighted the plane. We
then were off on our way home but instead of flying
direct we diverted over Zion and Bryce National
Park, as well as a stop in Spanish Fork Utah to try
to meet up with Mike Patney (DRACO/SCRAPPY).
Unfortunately he was not there but we got to meet
Ron (Mikes best friend and behind the scenes guy)
who let us in the hanger to take a couple photos of
the Wrecked DRACO. Sorry No photo's of SCRAPPY and
we did not get to see how far along he was either.
DANG IT got to keep watching You Tube for updates.
Topped off the tanks again as we were going to have
nearly a 30-40mph head wind to Gooding Idaho. We
picked up Flight following in Provo, UT and was
cleared through the SLC Class B at 8500. We landed
with 30-40kt headwind in Gooding (KGNG), as the
Storm clouds were passing just north and east. After
leaving Gooding the sun was getting pretty low and
we opted to climb over the clouds, putting us just
below 12.5K, and OAT dropped to -14. In N122EF the
heater can pretty much keep it warm enough for
T-shirts and shorts to -2, but -14 was pretty chill.
We each put on our jackets and I carry a lightweight
sleeping bag on most trips that we were able to
spread out over our laps and as soon as we could we
descended back down to 8.5K arriving back in Prosser
around 7pm last night.
pretty good for 1800mile trip in about 36 hours.
Burned around 110gal of gas. and had pretty nice
circle around the West!
7A Rebirthing PIREP ...kentlik
Still working on the wing...Need another riveter
for the rest.
Rear window cracks ...mwjohn63 RV-12
I just discovered some cracks in the rear window, pilot
side, and looking for advice.
I'm not exactly sure of the cause, but I did drip some
Loctite on this screw during the re-installation of the top
canopy handle. I tried to clean it off as best I could, but
in hindsight, I should have removed the screw and completely
cleaned it up...now I'm paying the price. I can stop drill
the obvious cracks, but not sure what I can do for the frost
Options: should I replace the window or are there some good
Initial contact- considering an RV-10 ...Eric P
If anybody can point me to a couple of RV-10 contacts, I
would appreciate the help.
I am working on making a decision on whether to move forward
with purchasing an RV-10 quick build kit and would like to
speak with a couple of different individuals. I have made a
couple of contacts, but wasn't able to get in direct contact
with anybody that actually owns an RV-10.
So, to aid me me in my decision, I would like to view an
RV-10 under construction and another completed - preferably
by the owner. The need to see a completed -10 is to aid in
helping my wife understand what we are looking at and that
it is at least comparable to the 182 we are currently in
partnership with. The under construction project is to help
me visualize the scope and difficulty of the project.
I am in central California (Merced) and would be happy to
travel a reasonable distance. Timing is not a huge issue
yet, however I would like to have made this decision made
early next year.
Thanks for your help
The truth about fiberglass
Look, even West Systems warns you not to mess with it:
Falcon Flight Formation Clinic 2020...Bobby "Luke" Lucroy
Falcon Flight Formation Team will be
hosting a Formation Clinic April 24-26,2020 with a backup
weekend of May 1-3, 2020. This clinic will be held in
Temple,TX (KTPL). We know this is a ways away but wanted to
get it out as time gets away and there are those that like
to get things on the calendar early. There will be more
details posted here at VAF as we get closer to the date.
One Year In ...Lefty37
"Can't believe its almost been a year now! My empennage
is done, and I'm onto the wings. Currently working on the
front and rear spars..."
UHMW Bushings ...mulde35d
So I am trying to trim the UHMW Bushings on Page
32-02 for an RV-14A and figured I would rough cut
them with the band saw and final trim them with a
belt sander. My belt sander is having one heck of a
time trimming off the plastic and it is a pretty
coarse grit (80 grit).
Is there a trick to trimming this stuff or is it
just that tough?
Oct 25, 2019. Issue #4,942.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend!
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
My RV Weekend ...DanH
My mother lives in the Harrisburg
PA area, and I live in south Alabama. As the years
go by, "Mom Runs" have become more frequent, and I
am very, very glad to have the RV-8.
This weekend was no different. Left Sunday
afternoon, heading north through TN and KY, then
along the OH-WV line into PA south of Pittsburgh,
all to avoid the mess churning up the Atlantic
coast. Got as far as Somerset PA and called it
quits. The wind turbines on the ridges to the east
were sticking up out of the clouds, a sure sign that
ducking under the overcast is not an option. Did an
overnight to let the weather pass, then a quick
morning run into Harrisburg in plenty of time to get
Mom to her first appointment.
Returned home today, 3:57 nonstop into a
headwind...the usual route past Camp David, then SW
down the Appalachians, clip the NW edge of the
Atlanta B, then home. The RV-8 knows that one like
an old horse heading for the barn.
KCXY's hangar is one of my favorite buildings. I
just love old art deco hangars...and as a 5th
grader, I remember standing at the fence watching my
dad do T&G's in a then almost new C-152. If you're
in the area (and you're a gearhead), stop and check
out the hangar door. It's a one-piece panel with
massive cable counterweights hanging in their own
Fuel Drain O-ring Quick Change Excellent Tip ...Sam Buchanan
RV Series - RV/IAC Aerobatic Competition Standings ...ronschreck
I have been involved in aerobatic competition for
ten years now and in all that time my wife, Kathy
only came to two or three contests with me. Boring,
she said! I was the contest director for the U.S.
National Aerobatic Championships this year and the
preparation was a full-time job for over seven
months leading up to the contest. I have always told
Kathy that she would get more enjoyment out of a
contest if she became involved as a volunteer. She
finally relented and offered to help the contest
registrar at Nationals. She loved it! She's hooked!
Two weeks after Nationals is the Mark Fullerton
Memorial contest in Rome, Georgia. Kathy begs to go.
You don't travel light with Kathy. Deciding what to
take can be a problem.
Panel Planning Update ...nilberg
Here's my $3.65 (paper) version of the panel
installed. The rest of the week will be used
to run through various procedures and making
appropriate airplane noises.
Oct 24, 2019. Issue #4,941.
I'm still stuck in traffic at what I'm calling 'Backapalooza'.
The lumbar spasms are no more and I'm down to just being sore
and a little cranky (a guy can only take so much Star Trek). ;^)
Definitely on the mend - ate lunch with some of the gang
yesterday. I should be back in the air in the very near
future. Life is good, but back pain really stinks.
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
New Van's LightBox Sign Kit - Now Available!...mothership
ORDER LINK /
"Our latest practice kit is also a
great, practical sign for your hangar, Man Cave or
"I Love Me" wall. Includes all the
pre-punched/pre-formed parts, hardware and lighting
components needed to build the sign using your
choice of rivet and fastener types to suit your
style. The all-aluminum box has the Van's Aircraft
logo cut out of one side, and you'll be able to
build with solid rivets in flush or round-heads, or
with RV-12 style pulled rivets, and finish it in
your own favorite look/feel. Sufficient hardware is
included to allow you to choose - Just put the rest
in your airplane kit bins as spares! Builds with
basic aircraft tools, which are not included."
Kid RV Motivation ...airguy
"...nothing better than a smiling kid after a
ride. My little boy Collin thinks that's just about
the best part of any weekend."
Quick Drain O-ring Replacement Tip ...from
Pre-Order your Van's 2020 Calendar ...mothership
3rd out of 6 (Beating out two Extras and a Pitts)...Ron in his
He did some really beautiful flying! We only got two
flights in, the Known and the Free programs due to
weather cutting the contest short. It's too bad
because the Unknown program is a hoot. It'll make
you or break you!
Ron came in 3rd overall out of 6 with a 76.16%
beating out two Extras and a Pitts. His individual
flights were 3rd and 4th for the Known and Free
programs respectively. He earned a 3rd place medal
for the Known and a 3rd place medal for the overall
Ron will be updating the RV series leader board
soon. He was the only RV competing in this contest.
Come and join us next time!
Van's Aircraft's Greg Hughes on EAA's The Green Dot podcast
This has become one of my favorite podcasts. The
most recent episode features an interview with Greg
Hughes, the Director of Media, Marketing, and
Community for Van's Aircraft.
Oct 23, 2019. Issue #4,940.
You know those days when you're wondering what the top story should be on
the site? Today was not one of those days <g>.
Colin, that pic of your daughter in the plane is awesome!
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
My RV Weekend ...Colin P. RV-6A
I got to take my daughter for her first GA flight
and her first flight in the RV. She was also my
first passenger. We did a breakfast run about 25min
away, but ended up taking the long way since she was
having fun. She really enjoyed steep turns and other
N741BN - Panel Review ...nilberg
Here's my two panel options:
Option 1: With Compass
As I need a 2 1/2 opening for the EI Commander, I was
thinking of also have another 2 1/2 instrument, why not a
Loose Intake Hose Clamps ...Jim
I pulled the cowling yesterday while chasing some wires,
and I found that three of the eight clamps on the intake
hoses were pretty loose. Each intake hose has two different
kinds of clamps; the inner clamps closest to the sump have
wing type screws that you can turn with your fingers. The
outer clamps have hex/slotted screws. Only the inner clamps
with the wing screws have become loose.
I am thinking I should replace the wing screw clamps with
hex type clamps. Seems like I could tighten them down quite
a bit more. Maybe that's why they are coming loose?
Q: Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance!
The problem is that the hoses are always shrinking.... so
what ever traditional clamp you installed will keep getting
loose because of the hose shrinkage. It is not because the
clamps are loosening.
Constant tension spring clamps are the way to go. If
you upgrade to the SDS intake kit you get spring clamps with
Final Report Issued ...20 page PDF
"(KRviator) Long landing and no go around resulted in an
overrun. OF note, it mentions the buckling behind the
cockpit that seems to be typical of rapid deceleration in
RV's - at least in Australia..."
My RV Weekend (Sortof) ...Jerry Esquenazi RV-8
Nothing RV for me this weekend, well sort of. I just
wanted to follow up on my post from last weekend regarding
the Bear Creek Bash, Mark Fullerton Memorial Contest in Rome
GA this past weekend.
Bill McLean came up in his RV-4 from southern Alabama to
support the contest and hang out with his acro buddies and
Ron Schreck came in his beautiful RV-8 from the Charlotte
area to compete with me and others in Intermediate.
Like I said last week, I got to fly a gorgeous Extra 330LX
that my friend Shaun let me fly. I'm a changed man! I need
an Extra. I've been looking for a potential partner in the
S. Atlanta metro area, but so far I haven't had much luck.
Please let me know if you know of anyone that might be
Ron did a great job, finishing 3rd out of 6. I finished dead
last, but not by much! I didn't expect to do well since I
haven't competed since April or done any real practice. Plus
I had a grand total of four flights in the Extra prior to
the contest. The Extra is a different animal and it's going
to take some getting used to. It was a great opportunity to
compete in the Extra and that's really what it was about for
me regarding this contest.
And as always, it is more about seeing and having fun with
friends. I'm going to paraphrase, but Mark used to say, "If
you're here for the trophy, you're doing it wrong. It's
about the people and the relationships you forge." If it
hadn't been for the RV and for friends like Ron, I may not
have ever gotten involved in this wonderful sport and gotten
to fly an airplane like the Extra. Thank you Shaun. Thank
A Really Nice Pic of Jeff R's Panel
I have my G5 high and in the middle. I figure
that if it is truly operating as a backup, I don't
want my eyes searching too far from the center of
the windscreen during a high stress situation.
Oct 22, 2019. Issue #4,939.
You may have heard about the Dallas tornado
Sunday night (story).
Image below facing SW towards Love Field - you can see the
tornado path from upper right to bottom center. EF-3 with
140mph winds....largest tornado in Dallas county in 40 years.
The pics online are heartbreaking and our thoughts and prayers
go out to those affected.
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
click to enlarge
My RV Weekend ...several chime in.
Flew my RV14A 5.7 hours making two laps around
Houston for continued engine break in and Phase 1.
I'm completely amazed at how good the G3X is ...
everything working perfectly. How did I ever live
without traffic and an AP? Awesome avionics for an
even more impressive plane.
Put-In-Bay Ohio. Yes, Ohio has an island. very
Flew to Kansas City
Flew out from Colorado Springs to KC on Friday. I
had a great time with my friends on Friday and
Saturday. Flew back Sunday. Strong headwinds the
entire way combined with mist in the morning made
for a long flight back. All in all a great trip.
Another friend of mine drove from Denver to the same
get-together. 10 hours one way. Much better in the
RV, even with the wind!
KHVC - KDXE Hopkinsville,KY - Dexter, MO. My
buddy David and I flew to Dexter for breakfast.
Big South Fork Airpark
Took a young man that rents from me on his first GA
experience. We flew over to Big South Fork Airpark
in the hills of TN for a Seafood boil.
Beautiful fly-in community with awesome residents.
Just outside the gates of a 5500ft, paved, lit
runway with 3 approaches. Super nice. There are RV's
on th field. If you have not been, it is worth
I think I may have lit flame for this young man to
learn to fly. He seemed to really enjoy himself. He
got quite the experience for a first time out. I let
him hand fly most of the way there and we were in
IMC the whole way home and had to shoot an approach.
Love my little airplane and what it can do.
RV-12iS Oil Cooler Winterization Kit - now available...mothership
Just in time for winter weather, we have
published a Notification Letter for RV-12iS
builders/owners outlining a new optional kit that
allows you to block off part of the oil cooler for
cold weather operation purposes. A new KAI section,
55iS-U, covers the installation of the winterization
Three different-sized oil cooler covers are
provided, and we recommend installing the FF-00126A
(small) cover first and monitor how it impacts the
oil temperature of your aircraft during normal
operation. Oil temperature above 230*F (110*C) is
acceptable during full-power climb-out. Do not
exceed 248*F (120*C). If your oil temperature
remains below 180*F (82*C) during normal cruise
flight install the next larger oil cooler cover and
monitor oil temperature.
Please review the notification post on the Van's web
site service info page
Milestone: John Tower RV-6A First Flight ...mothership
Wiring Update ...jcarney
Wiring continues. I made some good progress this
weekend for sure. I still have many many wire ends
that need a proper home but this was a big one.
I'm hoping tomorrow I can make a rather large dent
in the two Dynon main harnesses.
Petit Jean Pictures ...Bobby Hester
This Weekend ...goatflieg
Got the elevators and trim tab painted. This was
harder than expected due to a few spots of odd
spiderweb-like sharp-edged ridges that popped up in
the primer that went unnoticed until I shot the
first color coats. I suspect some contamination
either below the wash primer; some consultation with
Sherwin-Williams is in order as I definitely don't
want that happening again. Got them sanded down,
reshot the color and then the clear coat. Now I can
break down the booth and get the fuselage, with the
very expensive engine and avionics, back over to the
heated shop for the winter.
Oct 21, 2019. Issue #4,938.
A very nice weekend here in N. Texas - hope
the same where you are. The Alliance Airshow
was held locally (perfect Wx). On Friday some of the usual
suspects did our annual pre-airshow lunch on the outside porch
at Schlotzsky's across the street from the airport during
practice (caught the F-22 demo, Blues and new
V-280 in flight). Not too shabby for the price of a
of Blues from porch).
Saturday I picked up something the wrong way and spent the
evening and Sunday dealing with lower lumbar muscle spasms.
Dang body...it's been a few years since the last back hiccup
(Turbo sent me a book on this last time and it helped immensely.
Thanks again Turbo!). We have
this massager that looks like E.T.'s head (we've called it 'E.T.'
for decades) and it has helped a lot. Feeling better by the
hour. Aging blows.
Lots of RV news today to report, so let's get on with it. Have a great
a part-time contract pilot?...DFW
Milestone: Officially an Airplane! ...Roo747
After 8 years and 8 months
RV Stories: Mike Dooley
Mike is from Lee's Summit, Missouri and is president of
local EAA chapter there - Chapter 91. He recently completed
- and has since flown for the first time - his RV-8! This is
his RV story.
Video: RV-8 and the Bremerton Run ...ArlingtonRV
Saturday 10/12/19 was a day that turned
out better than forecast. There was supposed to be
increasing rain later in the day and otherwise cloudy, but
the clouds were at least 8,000' in most places. The radar
picture (ForeFlight) showed abundant showers in the area,
but it appeared that most of them did not make it to the
Not wanting to go too far afield in case the weather
deteriorated faster than forecast (it didn't) we went to
Bremerton for lunch. After all, we will only have a few more
opportunities to do so as the restaurant is closing at the
end of the year.
JDair Canopy Latch PIREP ...mulde35d
I ended up installing the JDair Canopy
Latch in my RV-14A today and figured I would share the
experience. Overall I think it is a great upgrade from the
stock Van's handle which as others have mentioned seems
flimsy. This one is definitely not flimsy. Took about 2.5
hours to modify the side skin rivet line and file out the
holes for the handle. Most of that was my slow filing of the
two main holes with a hand file so that I got the spacing
Did the 40th anniversary of my 40th Birthday flight ...RONSIM
Great day after the nasty weather got out of Florida ---
an RNAV 3 and ILS 9 at KBKV, rolls and maneuvers on the way
back to KCLW. (Hope Heaven has a hangar for my RV, when I
"I'm On My Way" ...the trilogy!
I finished the last of three videos today and like to
share with you.
I also modified the first one some time ago so will post the
So - here are the links of all three videos again.
I watched the videos many many times myself and I always
enjoyed the memories very much - and still do!
Carb Enigma ...hcccs
I took my carb apart for a thorough
cleaning and check and found a hole in the throttle throat I
haven't seen before. I think I read about it in the Marvel
Schebler handbook and they call it the BACK-SUCTION TYPE
ENRICHMENT SYSTEM. The hole (fig 1) goes through the carb to
the bottom (fig 3) and is exposed to atmospheric pressure.
It also has a vent to the fuel chamber (fig 2). The hole
should create some under-pressure at various throttle
settings which should be fed to the fuel chamber. On the
other hand the bottom hole is always exposed to atmospheric
pressure so it doesn't add up. Does anyone have better
knowledge on this?
New Panel in my RV-8 ...Westerhuis
A move to the UK triggered the need for a
few changes to my panel. The European Union requires am
8.33kHz radio, Mode-S transponder would be great and I also
needed a back-up instrument for airspeed, altitude and
direction. Garmin conveniently (not) changes dimensions when
bringing new equipment on the market and there you have it;
the need for a totally new panel. As an advantage, it meant
I could make a few other tweaks to customize the panel to my
needs. Here is the result. In a way a shame as it's more
cluttered as the previous owner and builder kept it tidy and
Photos from Mojave Event ...Bruce Hill
It was a beautiful day for flying and the
air was nice and smooth and calm, so my wife and I decided
to head to Mojave and have breakfast there and look at all
of the Rutan aircraft.
I want to build an RV-14A in my basement...
Luckily it is a walkout basement.
The doorway is 70" wide. Can anyone check their plans or
built airplane and tell me if the fuse on the gear would fit
through a 70" opening? My wife is a pretty tolerant woman,
but she might not appreciate it if I have to demo part of
the foundation to get my project out.
On a separate and unrelated topic, Van's quoted me about
$2000 to ship the QB kit from Oregon to Virginia. I was
considering picking it up and driving cross country with it
to save costs. Good idea?
On That Note ...DoctorDan
I am building my RV-14A in my basement, which has a
considerably smaller door than yours. It's about 58.5" wide
when open, and I was able to fit a QB fuselage in. Albeit
not with a lot of space on the side. Basement has a lot of
advantages such as being climate controlled and much closer
by than the hangar. I make a lot of aluminum dust but am
careful to vacuum it up, and wear a mask as needed. The
priming takes place in the garage out back (P60G2).
Oct 18, 2019. Issue #4,937.
In line with my lifelong quest to keep
the process of digestion going, I'm casting out the net a bit
to see if there are any part time commercial flying jobs in the
DFW area I can use to supplement my VAF gig. So, if you or someone you know needs/wants a right seater in a King Air 200,
PC-12, Citation II
or similar, or knows
somebody with a Caravan (C208) that could use another PIC on the
list of people to call in a pinch....I'm looking for some side
work. 1,700 hours. Commercial.
Airplane Single and Multi Land; Instrument. 100 hrs turbine.
Current in the Caravan.
I clean up fairly well and will laugh at your
jokes, even if I don't get them. Resume and letters of
recommendation upon request. (contact)
Next, if you are RVating in the N.Texas area this weekend, there is a
TFR for the Alliance Airport airshow.
Wishing you and yours a
happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
a DFW-based part time contract pilot?)
Right Place Right Time ...dr
My buddy James Walsh took his RV-4 over to
Alliance Airport Wednesday morning to visit a friend in the
tower (James was an air traffic controller in the Navy).
While he was in the tower Blue Angel #7 landed (in advance
of the weekend's show). Taxied up to the tower....and
parked next to James' plane.
Turns out James
took his parking space. It happens...
James Walsh photo.
My RV Weekend ...jpowell13
Partied with Aunt Willodean
Aunt Willodean just turned 95. Was able to hop in
the RV and fly from Baton Rouge to Laurel, Ms in 1.2
hrs. Made her cry when she heard I was coming. So
glad I went and that the RV made it easy. She loves
to brag about her nephew that built his own plane
and all the trips we made together in it. John
RV-3B Build Update ...David Paul
David Howe, my mentor, sent me some test coupons
to glue and rivet to see if my glue process works on
top of the white Stewart Ekopoxy primer. Note that
I'm not bonding to the primer at this time and
haven't bonded to primer on anything on the plane.
This was just for interest, that and to compare to
both rattle can SEM and Azko Nobel. Azko Nobel will
carry a bonded joint, but SEM won't.
One test sample broke at 1,510 pounds, and the other
two broke at about 1,400 pounds. Those two failed at
a point away from the bonded/riveted joint. The
three rivets alone are only good for 651 pounds per
MIL-HDBK-5H, so this process adds substantial
strength to the joint.
In this photo, the test coupon itself, not the
joint, failed at over twice the load that the rivets
alone, sans glue, is rated for. Looking at the rivet
heads, it appears as if the rivets are virtually
unaffected. The side clamp is there just as a
support to hold the assembly in position for the
The test samples were designed to resemble
typical RV-3 riveted joints with the inclusion of
glue, and this time, the white Ekopoxy primer.
Before shooting the primer, the samples were abraded
in the bond area, and then etched using Stewart
EkoEtch before priming. After the primer was
completely dry, it was glued using West System's
This testing was done to assess whether this primer
could be used overall, with post-priming glueing.
While it could, it would require pre-abrading the
parts before the etching and priming.
A later series of tests essentially compared 3M's
2216 to G/flex. The 2216 is a stronger epoxy but
that's all I can say at this time.
Panel concept review (very rough draft) try 2 ...rmartingt
Although I'm probably a year to a year and a half
from really needing to have it set in stone, I
figured I probably need to start at least playing
with panel concepts now so that I have the time to
refine the layout, translate it into Catia, and lay
out cut templates and break the panel into parts as
necessary for manufacturing and maintenance. It'll
also help me better visualize wire routing needs as
I'm starting to lay in conduit and figure out where
to mount the fuse panels (as those will be going in
a little sooner).
With that said, I recently spent a particularly slow
morning futzing about in Powerpoint (yes, Powerpoint...
it's quick and easy for simple concept creation) and
tried to figure out how to pack 12 pounds of stuff
into a 10 pound bag. I wound up with about four
different layouts and a few minor variations
thereof; I screenshotted my two favorites of the
bunch so far and theyre posted below. I was hoping
to get some early feedback before I've gone down the
road of detailed CAD drawings with cutouts and split
panel sections, only to be overwhelmed with
suggestions to change everything...
Please bear in mind--these are Very Rough Drafts,
maybe one step beyond a napkin sketch. Again, I did
them in Powerpoint one afternoon. Think about your
first time with MS Paint or colored pencils and the
outline drawings, planning your paint scheme...
please ignore slightly uneven spacing or
misalignment of switches, this is a draft. I'll work
on precise alignment once I move to laying things
out in Catia for cutting.
A few notes on the concept:
I intend for the aircraft to eventually be IFR
equipped and to get my rating in it.
I haven't actually yet decided on Classic vs HDX; I
have experience with the former and like it (single
screen VFR implementation), but the latter I only
played with at Oshkosh a couple years ago and found
the Classic habits hard to break. I don't like that
the knobs don't work like sticks; I found the
interface a bit harder to use. But HDX keeps getting
This concept is for the eventual full panel--it's
likely that I won't have everything all there
initially ("fitted for but not with" as the saying
goes). IFR GPS, Com 2, standby EFIS (GRT Mini),
and/or RH screen may be just cutouts with blanking
panels at first flight. But the RH screen will make
it in first, as most of my likely right seaters will
at least know what they're looking at and be useful
Switches are assumed to be TL toggles unless noted
in yellow. Dashed rectangle is width for dual-pole
As regards placement, the hard part is trying to
pack in the knob and AP boxes (must-haves; driving
autopilot through the screen itself is pain) with
everything else. The SDS programmer (3.25x3.25 for
the new one right now, per one of Ross's posts)
takes up a fair bit of room too.
In both concepts, I placed the autopilot controls
top and center like heavy iron; both occupants can
reach and use it there. I looked at placing it
somewhat towards the LH screen, but I still wanted
to keep it to the right of the screen somewhere. I
don't want to have to take my flying hand off the
stick to twist knobs. The right seater can use the
EFIS if need be.
In the first concept, Com 2 is the radio all the way
to the left, with the intercom. It won't be used
much and (as currently planned anyway) the right
seater won't be able to talk on it. PTT for Com 2 on
the throttle; I'm envisioning it mainly being used
for inter-flight com for formation work, or just
monitoring/ATIS/etc. But my bias may be from the
type of flying I've done in the past; I have a good
bit of formation time for someone with relatively
low hours but little cross-country time and no IFR
Second concept moves the radios to the center and
puts the SDS programmer to the left, where it's out
of the way (it won't be used much after initial
I grouped all of the engine switches in the center,
by the quadrant, so all the engine stuff is
together. I haven't yet decided how to break the
panel down for maintenance (I like Carl F's master
disconnect idea) but one possibility is having the
quadrant and engine controls separate from the rest
of the panel. They won't share a disconnect with
anything else and they're powered off a separate
fuse block. Rest of the commonly-used switches to
the left; the rarely-used stuff to the right. Flaps
may or may not move to the stick, I haven't decided
that one yet.
USB 5V outlets are crammed where nothing else would
fit, but I could easily move those elsewhere,
perhaps even to the armrest area or something else.
I know which switches are dual vs single pole, 2 vs
3 position, momentary, etc. but I have not noted it
in the picture. I know someone will ask; the main
and aux master are off-bat-alt.
With all of that said... thoughts?
Added to the Mothership
Oct 17, 2019. Issue #4,936.
Heads up N. Texas. VIP TFRs are hot Thursday (map).
Beginning Date and Time : October 17, 2019 at 1715 UTC.
Ending Date and Time: October 18, 2019 at 0345 UTC
My RV Weekend ...RV8Squaz
As before my RV weekend started early and
continues into Monday!
I haven't been using my RV in competition due to
canopy problems. My friend Shaun asked if I was
going to the Rome contest next week (10/18-19). And
I said I was going to volunteer but not fly. He made
me an offer I couldn't refuse, "You wanna use my
Extra?" "Well, sure!" The problem is that one
doesn't just jump into a machine like that and
expect to fly it safely in a contest, much less with
any kind of precision. He must of seen the look on
my face. Then came, "We'll get you a few training
flights. You'll be good." Fortunately, IAC rules
allow safety pilots to ride with contestants when
the contestants aren't qualified in a particular
aircraft. Per the FAA - I'm qualified, the insurance
company - no, and me - big fat HECK NO!
Shaun's airplane is an Extra 330LX previously owned
by Patty Wagstaff. So, Thursday, I flew my RV-8 up
to Habersham Co. (AJR), 85 nm. We flew two 40 minute
flights with a couple of very short 1-3 minute
breaks during each flight. I was beat. Forget the
wet noodle, I felt like a noodle that had been
boiled for two hours and beginning to fall apart!
Thank you Shaun!
PJ Pics ...scrollF4 post
Two weddings and half a country ...Planecrazy232
A Texas wedding, a Massachusetts wedding, and
lots of friends in between. 4300 miles, 11 stops and
29.5hrs in our time machine. I love this thing.
Night flying Chicago ...jjbardell
The wife and I flew to BBQ at Lancing Regional.
Took the city lakeshore route on both legs and the
picture taking with my new iPhone 11 Pro were great.
Also added from a sunset flight earlier in the week.
Great Excuse for Missing Petit Jean ...and wonderful life
Ms. Patti and I are sorry we missed PJ, but we had a
good excuse. May I present Mrs. Katherine Horton
Haynes...with umbrella. The crud at PJ on Friday
arrived in Alabama on Saturday. Not a good day for a
garden wedding, but wonderful otherwise.
RV Series - RV/IAC Aerobatic Competition Standings
Sorry to be so late in posting this. I was
honored to serve as the Contest Director for the
U.S. National Aerobatic Championships in Salina,
Kansas during the last week of September. This was
the premier Nationals in Salina and due to the
tremendous support of a very capable staff of
volunteers and the support of a very welcoming
airport and community the event was a great success!
I had hoped that more RV pilots would compete but
Oliver Spatscheck made the trip and finished with a
score of 76.29% and a 17th place in a field of 24 in
the Sportsman category. Oliver, I hope you had a
great time and that you will share your impressions
of the experience at Nationals with us. It's always
a pleasure to spend some time at contests with
Oliver. His enthusiasm for aerobatics is evident and
his skills keep getting better with each
Kathy and I drove our motor home to Salina from
North Carolina and continued to Colorado after the
contest in order to attend the 50th reunion of my
Air Force Academy class of 1969. I tell people that
and rather than asking me if it was a great reunion
they immediately say "wow, you're old!"
Yes, I am and it was a great reunion. You youngsters
fly safe... and inverted.
Odd leak from valve cap....moosepileit
I cross threaded a tube stem 30 hours ago. The
valve cap on the left, with less rubber seal in it,
caused a leak. It would thread on 4 turns. The
replacement cap, on the right, from a spare tube,
threads on 2.5 turns.
The cap on the left held air for 30 hours and more
than 50 taxi, takeoff and landings.
Checked tire, tube, wheel, no issues.
Inflated to 40#, removed cap several times and heard
a faint sizzle of air.
The cap on the left held air, until it didn't.
So, if you've ever cross threaded and fixed tube
stem threads, check that your cap looks like the one
on the right and doesn't thread on too many turns.
A few gorgeous RV-4 panel pics from a thread
Strange combination of issues
Our RV-10 has been working great for 2 years.
The system is EarthX PC680, Recently replaced main
contactor (from ACS), Plane power 60a alternator,
VP-X Pro, Garmin GTN650, GTR20 Remote Radio, Dual
The issue was first reported as BOTH COM radios
getting X'd out. When I fired the plane up (engine
off), COM2 was faulted with a "short circuit" but I
reset it and it was fine. I could not replicate any
issues. The last person who flew the plane had the
radios get X'd out around the time of being handed
off to departure.
After starting the plane, everything seemed okay
until I tried to taxi. Advancing the throttles
causes the amp reading on the VP-X screen to
increase dramatically and then it cuts them both out
with "short circuit".
Here's a video. https://youtu.be/q11zGFy63vU
One thing I notice right away, is that the system
voltage finally gets up to 13.8 only as the engine
finally hits over 1700rpm. In the past it would hit
14.1 at nearly idle RPM. NOTE: The data here is at 1
second intervals, before anything has time to go
wonky. It's just an example of the lower than
At first this seems like belt slippage, voltage
regulator, or alternator failure. But the Coms
shorting out has me completely thrown for a loop.
DID YOU KNOW insurance is forever changing? ...LRingeisen
Insurance changes constantly. We know 2019 has been
a tough year for all of us adjusting to the higher
premiums and tighter insurance guidelines, but we
want to continue to keep you informed of some of the
changes we have been made aware of. A couple of
things we have noticed lately is that deductibles
are starting to reappear. This isn't to lower rates,
but instead to make the insurance companies more
comfortable insuring low time pilots, specifically
on tailwheel aircraft. We haven't seen much of this
yet, but it has happened. Another thing we've
noticed is that the RV-8/RV-8A have been getting
more difficult to insure. Companies typically want
to see pilots with at least 25 hours in the make and
model. We're not saying that you can't get a quote
if you have less hours than that, but we want you to
know that it is easier if you do.
We're not the only one's trying to help you. Some of
our insurance companies want to give you some tips
and tricks of how to keep insurance costs down and
how to make it easier to get the best policy
available. Below is a link form Global Aerospace.
With their permission, we wanted to pass this
article along to anyone who may not have seen it.
There is some good information in it.
Just remember, quotes are only valid for 60-90 days
depending on the insurance company, because
insurance is forever changing
Oct 16, 2019. Issue #4,935.
First Flight ...Steven Hild RV-7
Well, the math don't lie, it's been 18 years
since we began this journey.
During all of it I've leaned heavily on this web
site for ideas, procedures, traps, etc. A couple of
names stand out; Doug Reeves for hosting, Sharpie,
Kahuna (still owe him a root beer), Bruce Hill,
Richard Leonardo for suggesting I look into the
product, the list goes on and on.
Of course my wife who has been in there at every
step in every aspect getting down and dirty. And my
Lord who said I'll supply everything you need to
make this happen (1 Timothy 6:17).
A little adjustment for a heavy right aileron and
let the adventure begin.
Watch that second one to the end for some bonus
see videos / continue
RV-8 and the Richland Run ...Steve Rush
Friday 10/11/19 was a really nice
day in the Northwest. We were between rain systems,
the air was smooth, calm, and clear. The winds aloft
were forecast to be light making it a perfect day to
head over the mountains. It was very smooth the
whole trip, even right up against the mountains.
We did hit a few bumps right over the Hanford
Nuclear Reservation, probably no big deal. I just
can't figure out what that glow around the wings
On the way home we flew over Grant County Airport in
Moses Lake, one of several places that Boeing is
parking the 737 Max's that they can't deliver. You
hear on the news and read about all of the airplanes
parked, but until you see them it doesn't really
sink in. That is a lot of airplanes. I counted at
least 130, maybe as many as 150.
Vettermans trombone exhaust has arrived!! ...dwranda
Any tips would be helpful!
Yesterday my Vettermans trombone exhaust arrived. If
anyone has any tips or gotchas they would like to
share on the install I would be all ears!!
Garmin G3X (GDU 37X) V12.00, Oct. 15, 2019
We released new G3X V12.00 software for
GDU 370/375 based systems today. While most of
the changes are improvements that the user will not
notice, there are a couple of new/improved features
Earlier this year we announced 3 new IFR navigators.
The GPS 175 GPS, GNC 355 GPS with COM radio, and GNX
375 GPS with ADS-B Out Transponder.
While both G3X and G3X Touch systems supported the
GPS navigation interface to these new navigators
from the start, the G3X system has not had a
configuration option to allow the GNX 375 to be
selected as the aircraft transponder on the
transponder configuration page. This is now
Another new feature of V12.00 is increased G5 flight
display support. While the G5 has for some time
displayed the lateral/vertical navigation data for
external navigators like GNS and GTN, in a G3X
system the G5 did not show navigation data when the
G3X internal GPS navigation was being used, but does
now. Additionally, when serial interfaced NAV radios
like the SL 30 and GNC 255 are being used, this data
is also shown on the G5 flight display.
To obtain the free download for G3X V12.00, visit
software download page.
Changes made from version 11.80 to 12.00:
Add support for GNX 375 transponder interface
Add ability to share internal GPS navigation data
Add support for Kavlico P4055-5020 pressure sensors
Add support for UMA 1EU50A manifold pressure sensor
Add Autopilot PFT (pre-flight testing) status
Improve traffic data processing
Improve static pressure calibration procedure for
Improve CO detector CAS messages
Change flight director VOR, LOC, and GS modes to
operate without navigation database
Update magnetic table
General improvements to system operation
Includes update to G5 software version 6.30
Includes update to GAD13 software version 2.00
Includes update to GAD29 software version 3.20
Includes update to GEA24 software version 3.60
Includes update to GSA28 software version 4.40
Includes update to GSU25 software version 3.90
Includes update to GSU25C/D software version 2.10
My RV Weekend ...goatflieg
I got some painting done.... horizontal
stabilizer is finished.
Oct 15, 2019. Issue #4,934.
Italian Milano special Airshow 2019
...lucaperazzolli pics in Italy
My RV Weekend ...various
I installed new brake linings because I discovered
one was wearing unevenly. I think the slider pins
were hanging up on that side. Didn't want to replace
one without doing all of them. At $35 for an entire
set, it wasn't worth saving $22.50 to have the
overall wear out of sync with the rest of them.
Also installed a new Flyboy's pneumatic tailwheel.
Haven't had a chance to fly it, but it sure looks
I had to work this weekend. So, I flew to work
in my RV-8. 1 hour and 5 minutes of bliss and
I watched the cars crawling along the road en route
I'll fly home from work in a couple days.
Like a lot of people say, an RV is a time machine.
Albuquerque's Chile Flight had a busy International
Balloon Fiesta week, flying both Saturday opening
ceremonies. During the week, FFI evaluations and
check rides were administered to some of the members
by Craig "2B" Wilcox (RV8) and Phillip "Ripper" Lamb
(RV4)of KC Flight, both of whom joined us for the 12
Oct AIBF flyover. Chile members taking part in both
Saturdays were "Vyking" Nystrom (RV3), "Zap" Rehburg
(4); "Goat" Olsen (4), "Longbow" Jones (3), "Boo"
Booher (8A), "Spanky" Farley (8), "Stogie" Otero (7)
and "Goliath" Taylor (8).
200KT GS Club Entry ...sbalmos
What I thought was going to be highly improbable
to achieve and left to the more-powerful RVs
happened this past Saturday. Took advantage of a
crisp, cold fall day, grabbed my oxygen, and went
searching for my 9A's service ceiling. I didn't
quite make it there - an air gap between my canopy
skirt and the fuse was making for quite a chilly
cockpit, even with heat. 21F made for some frosty
But I made it in the 200kt club! That was one heck
of an incredible tailwind I got when I turned to
take advantage of it. Probably would've been even
faster if I kept climbing. WOT here at 15k and the
climb rate was still at least 400fpm at 90 KIAS when
I leveled out. And this is on a typical 3-blade
Catto FP, not repitched or anything, and 150 HP
engine. Now I'm getting impressed at where the -9
likes to live, going multi-state cross country.
Electrical Project ...RV7ForMe
Sometimes at bed time when it would be to late to
start anything else I tinker with some electrical
I have read a bunch about the standard Flap motor
not being "perfect"
During the rebuild of the other RV7A with G3X system
the flap position was missing. So I added with a ray
allen position sensor. It also had the "Flap
Positioning System" by show planes.
Sensor mounted to the motor
Potentiometer mounted to the motor
This kicked of this idea. There is got the be a
What I came up with is a motor that has it's own
Then I got a arduino board to play with and after
about 3 months I got the first beta version that
does everything I want it to do.
Status Report ...jcarne 7A
200KT GS Club Entry ...sbalmos
What I thought was going to be highly improbable to
achieve and left to the more-powerful RVs happened
this past Saturday. Took advantage of a crisp, cold
fall day, grabbed my oxygen, and went searching for
my 9A's service ceiling. I didn't quite make it
there - an air gap between my canopy skirt and the
fuse was making for quite a chilly cockpit, even
with heat. 21F made for some frosty hands!
But I made it in the 200kt club! That was one heck
of an incredible tailwind I got when I turned to
take advantage of it. Probably would've been even
faster if I kept climbing. WOT here at 15k and the
climb rate was still at least 400fpm at 90 KIAS when
I leveled out. And this is on a typical 3-blade
Catto FP, not repitched or anything, and 150 HP
engine. Now I'm getting impressed at where the -9
likes to live, going multi-state cross country.
Hangar Cleaning: Items for Sale ...Bob Collins
I've got to mate the wings to the RV-12iS fuse
AND somehow fit the camper I bought (and couldn't
use) at Oshkosh this year.
So in the process of throwing a bunch of stuff out
(engine crate, C-frame table, soundproofing that I
had for the old plane), I figured a few of these
might be of interest to somebody. Or not.
Oct 14, 2019. Issue #4,933.
Really looking forward to some of the Petit
Jean pictures showing up online -
HERE's the thread for them if you're so inclined. If
you didn't go to PJ and got some quality RV time, chime in
HERE if'n you wanna. Hope you had a great weekend.
Milestone: Airworthiness Cert! ...bwestfall
Got my Airworthiness Certificate
today! It's been a 13 year journey that at times
I've wondered if it would ever end, build phase that
I guess its time to update my signature
PJ PIREP ...scard
RV3 Bottom Skins ...RV3Kev
Finally started on the bottom
skins today. I found the problem with the inboard
skins being too short. I was kind of expecting this
based on reading a number of build sites.
Sketch 9 shows the overall length of the skin to be
48". When I add up all the other dimensions on this
drawing, the over length should be 48 1/8". When I
do the same calculation based on the rib stations, I
get 48 1/8".
I'm On My Way: Video #2 ...SuperCubDriver
Milan Linate Air Show.
In occasion of a major overhaul of
the Milan Linate Airport, the runway has been closed
to traffic for the last few months.
Today and tomorrow a big airshow is scheduled and
among many performers, including the italian Air
Force Aerobatic Team Frecce Tricolori, there is also
a VAN RV8 Aerobatic team performing a nice display.
Here the link to the italian newspaper....i will
post some of my pictures in the next couple of day.
A big thank you to Luca Perazzoli and Dante
Francesco for the beautiful display (pictures 18 and
3D Parts To Make Your Build Easier ...Rteem
During the building process, I
found it useful to have some things custom made. I
am making them available on Shapeways without a
markup just as a courtesy to other builders. This is
my way of giving back to this forum which has been
an amazingly helpful group of people. This isn't all
of my parts, but it takes time to prepare these and
upload - more coming in the future if people like
You can order directly from the following link - I'm
not making any money here, so if something goes
wrong or the part isn't to your satisfaction, sorry.
Order at your own risk. I used them with success but
am not giving any express or implied warranty.
Constructive feedback is welcome.
What'd You Do With Your RV This Weekend? ...dr
Spent the weekend at Petit Jean! Flew formation,
popped balloons with my prop, ate great food, had a
Took advantage of beautiful conditions on Friday and
went up and got my night currency back. Don't have
much night time in my plane and nothing since
January. What a great time to fly. I'm going to have
to fix up my panel lighting, the dimable led strip I
have is useless, it flickers widely and the only
thing it lights up well is the photocell on my Dynon
HDX which makes the dimming change on that.
Did my very first trip to Petit Jean.
Friday I waited for the wind and ceilings to go away
and then hopped up to KSWI for cheap gas.
KSWI-KMPJ was awesome!!! Made 260mph GS on the way
with the awesome winds! Arrival into MPJ was late,
the airport was deserted! Not a soul in site when I
arrived (they were all at the reception..) But it
seemed like a disaster type movie... fires still
going... stuff left behind.. not a person to be
seen. Kind of cool.
Saturday I woke up early from the campsite and
hopped over for some gas then joined Scroll flight
for a 4 ship (my FIRST ONE) back to MPJ.. which was
awesome... if anyone has any pictures of us coming
in to the break, PLEASE share them with me.... I got
2 streamers during the balloon pop, I vow to kill
those little buggers next year!
[ed. James' formation
skills are improving exponentially - he's got a few
learner flights off my wing and he's solid. vr,dr]
Sunday, a solemn flight back to 52F by way of SWI...
somewhere between MPJ and SWI I decided I needed to
do some aileron rolls. So I did about... 5.
Was an INCREDIBLE time and exactly the reason I
bought my RV-4. My only regret was not getting to
really know anyone. Next time I will be going
up on Thursday to give me more time to check out
planes and meet folks!
Interesting Morning Shot ...TomVal
RV Weekend ...N402RH [ed. You gotta see
these mountain shots. Wow! v/r,dr]
Jennifer spent the week working at Dynon in
Seattle and had a reservation to fly home on the
6:30 Alaska Airlines flight. The plan was for me to
pick her up at the Portland airport at 7:30 and then
make the 3 1/2 hour drive to Sunriver in Bend OR for
the weekend. I was dreading the Friday afternoon
traffic in Portland when it dawned on me, I can
actually fly to Seattle in the RV-10 faster than I
can drive to the Portland Airport. We could then fly
from Seattle direct to Sunriver and avoid the 3 1/2
hour drive and late night arrival.
I installed some new beta software in the EFIS
screens that we needed to test and packed the RV-10
for the weekend. It was one of those spectacular
fall afternoons in the northwest when Truman and I
took off headed for Seattle to pick Jennifer up.
Words of Motivation ...dreed
It's been a long time since I was
on the emp, but as I recall I screwed up more than a
few things and made several trips down to Vans. Fast
forward to the side skirts on the slider and maybe
2-3 sets later it's good. Everyone on here has
different battles, challenges, etc. but we all have
I am not even flying yet but am finally getting
close-ish and I say soldier on- stop, have a beer,
organize your tools or take your wife out to dinner.
You'll miss it and then head back in.
Milestone: It Begins ...jdog0411
Look what the FedEx guy delivered
to me today. Empennage kit for the RV-14A. Now comes
the inventory. So excited!
Basically Finished (his words) ...rv8ch
I'm happy to show you some
pictures taken today of my basically finished RV-8.
Not all the inspection panels are installed, since I
need a final inspection before I can start putting
fuel in, and starting the engine. Quite happy with
Status Report ...kentlik
Oct 11, 2019. Issue #4,932.
Petit Jean fly-in is this weekend and I'm
looking forward to seeing pictures when they start getting
created). Pic #1 below from a decade ago - as always
Jay Pratt center stage laughing. ;^) RVs in the background
of course. Great venue and friends.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
2019: Planes already there (Thursday evening).
When you Need Motivation (from the 'About to throw in the towel'
Thread ...Jim Ivey
The RV-14 is awesome and very worth the
effort. Putting your heart and soul into something and then
conquering it is the point. Sometimes it's sand castles, ice
sculptures or sidewalk chalk art. Things appreciated for the
process rather than a lasting usable result. The process and
learning is one of the best parts, even if sometimes only
recognizable later. Yes, it sux right now. No candy coating
about it. But this is precisely the thing you will look back
on one day and appreciate your aircraft even more. It is the
hard, complicated problems we step up to fix that makes us
more whole. More complete. More satisfied in the end.
My very good friend Dennis built an RV-8 with his father. It
was a 11 year slow build by two fellows who started from
zero knowledge. At the beginning of the project one of
Dennis' mantras was that he wanted to, "Savor the
experience". A few years down the road found Dennis in the
tail cone in 120 degree weather holding a bucking bar while
his dad stood outside with a rivet gun hollering, "Are you
savoring the experience?". It was a quote that got thrown
around alot during the stressful parts of the build. Good
guys. And the end result was one of my favorite airplanes of
So, as for me. Did you know if you are building an Avid
Flyer or Kitfox it is very easy to build two right or left
wings instead of one of each? So much so the Avid factory
had a wing hotline where builders who did that could swap
one wing with another builder who built two of the opposite
side. Please don't ask me how I know. That was a bad day in
Flat Rock. What's more I was an aerospace design engineer in
Seattle at the time. So you are doing just fine. And the
RV-14 is super nice and worth it.
I am putting a newly redone engine on my RV-8 right now and
when it's tested I would be happy to come up and visit you
in Edgewood and let you have a go. I have a friend up there
I need to see anyway. We airplane people types are good. We
can count on each other.
Thanks for starting a great thread. In frustration for sure.
But you hit a nest of people who know exactly how you feel.
Update on This Weekend's Memorial Fly-in in Calhoun, GA
Just wanted to bring this back to the forefront.
I know the weather will be cool and we are hoping
that it's VFR enough to draw a crowd. If you are
within an hour or Calhoun, Ga. , please consider
joining us. We want this to be a big hit. As
mentioned, ALL PILOTS WILL BE SERVED FREE LUNCH.
Mark brother is making a very large amount of BBQ
to feed the crowd. Also, the spot landing and flower
drops competition will have very nice prize
Hope to see you there.
Wings ON Wings OFF ...Brendon Johnson's take
They have to come off at least once anyway
The wings need to be fit and the rear spar aligned
and drilled. Then the bottom flange of fuselage
marked and drilled. Then they have to come back off
to install nutplates @ the bottom inboard part of
the wing and counter sink the flange on the
fuselage. If you remember everything the first time
you can get by with only removing them once. I only
did the rear spar hole the first time so i had to
refit them to mark and drill the fuselage flange
holes. I would also do the front tank to fuselage
bracket as well.
Brian Lester's Mobile Tool Stand
Basically it started as storage for my table saw
but turned into a pretty nice tool stand. I
basically have 4 tools mounted to the top. Band Saw,
Drill Press, bench grinder, and belt sander. It's
not perfect as I sometimes have to shift the drill
press slightly, but overall it works great and it's
easy to move between tools when making parts (band
saw -> belt sander -> Bench Grinder w/ Scotchbright
Below is what it looked like before the drill press
and bench grinder. DRDT-2 doesn't work on the cart
EngineBridge Firmware v.1.4 is Out ...VAF advertiser
Download the firmware file along with the Update
procedure PDF here:
PMag Controller HW V1.4
If the PMags & Controller connected to the same
power switch (such as Master Switch) and are
normally powered at the same time then no need to
update to this version.
A note from a customer that his dual PMags are not
normally powered with the Master Switch, while the
controller is. This is so he can work on the
airplane or avionics without the need to have power
on the Mags.
The current version of the Controller searches for
one min for one or two PMags then it enables Wi-Fi
pages. If dual PMags are available, this takes a few
seconds after power up. If one PMag found, or none
are found, it tires for one min before enabling
Wi-Fi. This means for this customer, he needs to
restart the Controller when he powers the PMags to
start the engine.
This update lets the Controller keep searching for
PMags after the initial one minute timeout. It is
recommended to power the PMags & Controller at the
same time, but for those who have their PMags on a
separate switch and usually power the Controller
first then this update solves the need to Restart
the Controller after powering up the PMag.
Regarding his RV-8 Oil Cooler ...DanH
"It does not extend all the way to the freestream,
but rather to the top of a converging exit bell
exhausting all the cowl air. Oil cooler mass flow
meets the majority mass flow at a right angle, more
or less, so I didn't want significant velocity. So,
if the duct exit is smaller than the cooler face
area, it is not by much. The area was set by the
available space between engine mount tubes. I do not
know the exact area."
Garmin GDL 82 V2.01 Software, Oct. 10, 2019 ...g3xpert
Hello GDL 82 Users,
some of you are aware, the initial GDL 82 software
could transmit a couple of "uncloaked" ADS-B Out
messages with real aircraft ICAO address and Flight
ID on power-up, even with the transponder code set
to 1200 and the Anonymous switch active.
Many of you requested this be improved, and we are
happy to report that this work is complete. The new
V2.01 software includes improvements to make sure
that a system starting up with the Anonymous mode
switch active and a transponder code of 1200 will
enter Anonymous before transmitting any messages
thus safeguarding the true ICAO address and Flight
ID of the aircraft.
We also created a special non-certified aircraft
service bulletin with instructions on using the same
PC installation tool and USB interface you
originally used to install/configure the system to
install the new software.
The service bulletin and V2.01 software can be
downloaded from the
GDL 82 Software Download page. There is one
download for the software plus service bulletin, and
a second for the PC tool if you need it. The PC tool
Let us know if you have questions.
Small Business Comedy
ZipRecruiter mailed me this envelope yesterday.
Apparently they think there is more than one
employee (me). Now if you'll excuse me, the
CEO has to go fix the toilet. ;^)
Oct 10, 2019. Issue #4,931.
An amazing story: Clifford Arthur Princehorn's RV-8A
Maitland, New South Wales, Australia. RV-8A
You're going to want to read every word of
this. The dedication and focus of Mr.
Princeton is absolutely jaw dropping. Well
done, Sir! v/r,]
The mothership has added a bunch of recent first
flights to their site.
Milestone: Phase 1 Complete
Completed phase 1 yesterday. I have the nose
wheel fairings off right now for paint, but
otherwise the plane is ready to explore. Currently
will do 170kTAS at 8000ft DA wide open. I'm hoping
to gain a few knots with the nose fairing.
Happy Birthday Tater!
Today is our son Tate's 19th birthday. I
just wanted to take a second to wish the best son a
dad could ever want a happy 19th. Mom and I
are so very proud of you, the young man you've
become, your work ethic, your kindness and your
compassion. We thank God every single day
since you came into our lives.
Happy Birthday son! Love, Dad.
PS: Nice skateboard. I'm guessing the previous
owner had it going on back in the day ;^).
Milestone: Finally finished interior
Started building in 2009, first flight 2016,
interior side panels 2019! After it was flying, my
interior completion slowed to a crawl. My leather
seats were done 5 years ago by me and a seamstress
friend. Sides were bare aluminum till this week. I
heard about Lemke upholsterers in Germany that
started making RV interiors this year and with some
trepidation decided to try them. I sent them a
leather hide so it would match what we did and they
turned out great. Their price was good,
communication very prompt, and fit and finish
excellent! Only downside was it took several months
to complete. I'm so excited, I had to show off some
Canopy skirt interior ...Sam_B
Hello all, just got the final shape of the canopy
skirt done tonight. To get there, I had to make a
few cuts then hot glue the skirt to the packing tape
that was on the rear top skin. It turned out nice on
the outside, but the inside looks rough. What did
those that have gone before do to give the inside of
the canopy skirt a more finished look? I was
thinking of something like
It would be a good place for flashlights, pens,
maps, etc though I'm not sure I need all that
Also wouldn't work toward the back either, so I was
just wondering what others had done.
Project: Design RV-6 Tire Jack ...mbauer
Working on a creating a portable RV Jac.
Came up with a simple screw jack setup. Now working
on getting it manufactured by a local fabrication
Gone through several design changes, have a final
edition that isn't shown, it is over at the metal
fab shop for a price quote. As you can see from the
photos, I'm not the best welder...
Oct 9, 2019. Issue #4,930.
Got My Instrument Airplane Today in My 10 - Good Story ...Larry
I've had Commercial Instrument Helicopter rating for
decades (courtesy of the U S Army), but to be legal
for IFR in my 10, I had to get the Instrument
Airplane add on.
When I called the Examiner, he initially said
that he "doesn't do homebuilts". I was bummed out.
He asked, "Is it a tail dragger"?. No, I said. I
described a tricycle gear, 4 place, very nice
machine. I also explained that is was an all Garmin
glass cockpit, with the Garmin GTN 650 as the IFR
navigator. He asked me to send a picture. I sent him
a picture of the outside of the plane, and one with
the panel all lit up. He immediately responded back,
"OK I'll do it" :-).
Today when I was there for the ride, he actually
brought a friend (an RV-8 owner) over to show him
the plane, which made me proud, to show it off:-).
Anyway, the ride went well. I hand flew the 2
precision approaches (ILS and LPV), and the
autopilot flew the VOR. I'm glad it's done. Now
there's less pressure on staying legal VFR for my
trips now:-). I really love this 10.
Petit Jean 2019 - WEATHER OPTIONS
"It looks like Thursday is great
and Saturday Sunday will be great but chance of rain
on Friday. Rain usually scattered this time of year
but for those that want to come in a day early on
Thursday for the pre-party party! No worries......
WE HAVE A PLAN to cover you!
We are expecting 20 - 30 airplanes in on Thursday,
which guarantees us a good time on the ramp. Most of
those booked the available rooms on the Mountain so
no problem if you are already confirmed."
RV-7 For sale...Subwaybob
Man, I hate to do this because I
love it, but I'm building a 10 and they are not
giving away the engine and instruments these days...
RV Model: RV-7
Quick Build (QB) or Standard Build (SB): Quick Build
Slider or Tip Up: Slider
Location: KHQZ (Mesquite Airport Mesquite, TX)
Step for Taildragger Discussion ...Veetail88
Anyone installed the boarding step
on an 8 tail dragger! Thinking about it as that
first big step is kind of a pain. Pics please!
Thinking about a non-stop Atlantic crossing
. . .catmandu comedy
Just need a proper hard point (got a call into the
mothership), plumbing should be easy.
My RV Weekend ...Jonathan Alvord
Thursday: Took the RV 7 for a
short, warm up the oil ride, and then performed oil
Friday: Flew from Eastern Washington to Elko NV,
Page AZ, and Santa Fe NM with my wife. Flying over
Bryce Canyon with the fall folliage, over Lake
Powell, and through Monument Valley along the way.
Saturday: Flew up to Grants New Mexico and read
about Arrows Across America where arrow were placed
on the ground for pilots to navigate across America
delivering Mail. Drove up to the top of Mount Taylor
NM (one of the Sacred Navajo Mountains) with my wife
and Daughter. We left NM at 5pm and were able to
over fly Canyonlands as the Sun was setting which
was quite spectacular. The remaining 5 hour flight
to Eastern Washington was at night, smooth and a bit
chilly (1 degree Celsius). Arrived home and went
Total flight time 16hrs.
Oct 8, 2019. Issue #4,929
It was a glorious 60*F Monday morning in DFW and
there was a LOT of RV activity at our field. Hundred mile
viz for the first time in long while really brought out the
pilots. Hello fall...we've missed you.
Headed to the Mountain
...Capt Sandy starts the 'Headed to Petit Jean' thread ;^)
Starting our journey to Petit
Jean! All this has to fit in the RV - no problem,
right? (Can you tell I love packing cubes??) Can
hardly wait to see our friends on the mountain
Squeezer Smilies ...Greg
I clearly can't hold a squeezer straight to save
myself and get quite lot of these smilies around
round head rivets...hope the link works...
I'm not sure whether they are only in the primer or
affect the aluminium as well (primer is way too
thick so they possibly didn't get all the way
through). I can't see any shiny metal at the bottom
of any of them but I guess the only way to be sure
is to sand it back to see if the aluminium is
damaged and go from there. Any thoughts anyone,
should I bother?
My RV Weekend ...RV8Squaz
My weekend started earlier this
After finishing the firewall forward portion of my
condition inspection I took a buddy of mine with me
to Columbus GA (54 nm) to deliver some Whelen LED
beacons to be installed on our Bonanza. The airplane
is there for an annual inspection. This happened to
coincide with the shop's annual open house/bbq.
Awesome people and food. The technicians at Columbus
Aero Services are quite good. They're all very
honest, hard working, and reasonable mechanics.
Three of them are IA's.
Flew four legs. 1. Took my chute to Thomaston for
repacking. 2. Left there to practice some aerobatics
and went to Berry Hill to have lunch with a high
school friend of mine that is also employed by the
major airline based in Atlanta. He lives only a few
minutes from the airport. He has a Bellanca Viking
that he normally keeps there. We went to a
relatively new mom & pop bbq joint in town that was
very very good. Like I said, he and I went to HS
together. He ended up taking lessons from the
instructor I was using and also got his PPL. Later
we went our separate ways, he to U of Florida and me
to Embry-Riddle. He had a 21 year career in the Navy
and me a 20 year career in the AF. And then we end
up at the same air line living only 22 nm from each
other. How cool is that! 3. He dropped me off back
at the airport and I flew back to Thomaston to pick
up my chute. 4. Flew back to Falcon Field and mixed
it up in the pattern with various airplanes.
Gave a ride to another scout's dad that I have
become friends with over the years. My son Max
became an Eagle Scout last month and his son is on
his way to becoming an Eagle scout very soon. The
boys hung out in the hangar while the dads flew
Flew my son up to Chilhowee TN (92A), 112 nm north
of FFC for his glider lessons. Filed IFR and took
off in a 900' ceiling. Fortunately the gliderport
was VFR. In addition to becoming an Eagle Scout last
month, he also got to solo a glider for the first
time last month. It was a big month for him. He
turns 16 in February and the goal is for him to
complete his Private Pilot-Glider check ride on his
birthday and solo a powered aircraft the next day.
I plan on doing the tires and brakes. I've got all
new tires, tubes, and brake linings to install. If
the weather allows in the afternoon, a friend of
mine is going to give me a ride in his Extra 300L in
preparation for the next contest. A very very
generous offer one of which I am very excited and
Its been a great few days with fantastic utilization
of my RV! Sure is fun!
Status Report ...kentlik
Cut a section of the skin off to get access to
the spar rivets, very clean and corrosion-free. I am
rebuilding an entire leading edge for this wing.
Oct 7, 2019. Issue #4,928
A little .2hr hop Friday morning to realign the mental gyros
was it for me, but a lot of folks got their RV on over the weekend (proof).
I spent the weekend hanging out with the Tater (home Fri/Sat), doing
yardwork and studying airplane stuff (never stop). While here
he put new bearings and truck bushings in the 1979 Powell Peralta
'Skull & Sword' skateboard I used in high school and at Baylor, and
took it with him back to SMU. He promised a pic in front of
Dallas Hall. Original 'Bones' wheels from when they first
appeared on the market - my Dad drove me down to the UPS facility in
Waco to pick them up (I couldn't drive yet). Bought them over
the phone with a neighbor's credit card (handed them cash - we
didn't have a CC). Tate used his grandfather's vise (who he
never met) to tune up
the trucks on his dad's skateboard so he could be old school wicked.
Guess it's easier than him walking around campus with a bucking bar
in his pocket. ;^)
I spent an hour down the Youtube wormhole looking at old 80's skateboard stuff, and I kept
thinking..... "I had hair". Fair warning if you go searching
Lower temps finally arrived Sunday and M-W might make for some nice temps for an
RV hop. SMU is 6-0 for the first time since '82. The
three OTs for the win gave both Suz and me headaches <g>.
I've talked too much.....on to the RV news. Hope you had a great
After a bit of ignition system
troubleshooting during the week, it was time to
enjoy the now fixed airplane. I flew over to Ramona,
Ca (RNM) where they were having an 'Air Fair.'
Pretty nice showing of RV's in for the get together
.. seven varying RV models flying in formation over
the airport, Bruce Hill giving Young Eagle rides in
his RV-9A, a few RV-6's in the main display area,
along with my and one other RV-9A, plus Plummit's
RV-10 in transient parking, along with a RV-6A, and
perhaps others. RV's were well represented.
Several antique airplanes were being shown, a T-6
was giving rides, several light sport aircraft were
parked in the show area, along with a glider, a few
T-34's, and lots more that I'm missing.
In the back area were several exhibitors, ranging
from the Boy Scouts to CalFire, the local EAA
chapter, and many others.
Lastly, there was a bit of a car show area as well,
with mostly classic cars.
The highlight of my day was running into the
aviation insurance broker for my day job, who was
there with her 13 year old son who had never been in
a small plane. I fixed that. We went for a short
ride around the local area, which he loved. Now he
wants to learn to fly.
Status: 243 Hours In..... ...Earl Findlay
Hal and I have been hard at work
on our RV-14. We ordered the fuselage kit some time
back, and as of today, according to our build log we
have 243 man hours into the build.
Everything is going smoothly, I am learning a ton,
and based on our current pace, if we can get the
kits, engine, avionics, and interior when needed, I
think we have a good shot at getting the kit done in
about 14 months, start to finish. This will put us
nearly a year ahead of schedule. Keep in mind we are
doing between 60 and 80 man hours per week. This may
slow a bit, but we are scooting right along.
Starting this project, I was extremely apprehensive.
It was all for nothing. If you're debating doing a
build, JUST DO IT.
The big cut fastback style.
Weekend ...Scott Chastain
After 5 weekends of being stuck at home behind a
computer, I took the Dove for a quick spin over
Yosemite and zipped through Tioga Pass where we
landed for some brunch at Lee Vining, California
(O24). The weather was perfect with just a nip of
autumn tinging the air.
N61LD Regestered ...LD Blake milestone
Calling in the DAR for this Friday if he can make
it. 6 hous on Hobbs and 3.3 On the tach. My 1st
piston engine overhaul and she started ran and broke
I'm scheduled Thursday eve. For my hour of dual in
an RV6 to satisfy insurance requirements.
I'm looking for test flight plans as required by FAA
if anyone has one to share or a link to one it would
be much appreciated. I'm currently using th AC to
wright one up but could use some help.
The engine runs and taxi test have been unbelievably
exciting. Hope to take flight this month my dads
I think I need to order a new HS skin ...rv1988golf
I let the bucking bar bang against
the skin on the forward rivet on the HS skin.
Planning on ordering a new one . What do you think ?
Status Report on Panel Hinge ...jcarne
The hinges are not stock but a lot
of people add little drop down trays for
electronics. You can see the little "tray" in this
pic (I should probably call it a panel). On the left
side I'm going to put 2 fuse blocks and my e-bus
diode. The right side will get the Dynon EMS and
battery bus with e-bus relay. Stay tuned for pics on
Tip for drilling rivets when they
have paint over them: Don't remove the paint from
them. Sounds crazy but after drilling literally
hundreds if not a thousand rivets out, the drill bit
wanders less and they snap off really nicely.
Saves a bunch of time.
1st Sunday at Santa Paula
This morning we flew to Santa Paula for their 1st
Sunday (of the month) event.
We transitioned the LAX Special flight rules
corridor at 4500 feet:
I gave 3 Young Eagles rides at the Ramona Air
Fair for EAA Chapter 14. After they wound down the
YE flights, I gave my friend Jim, a rusty pilot, a
ride down and around San Diego. Gorgeous day to go
fly! He was very impressed by the RV-9A and how it
It was also good meeting Josh for the first time and
seeing Al, Marc and Rita there, too.
Oct 4, 2019. Issue #4,927
(From the mothership) "We have a job opening for a RV Builder Tech
Support Representative at Van's. This job is located at our
Oregon office location. If you're interested, check out
and apply at email@example.com"
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
Fly-in coffee st Sunrise Skypark
Anyone else flying in to Sunrise Skypark (ID40)
near Marsing, ID tomorrow for the
every-Friday-at-1000 coffee in a hangar? I'll be
there with my RV-8A
Weekend Fun ...SPX 9A
On Friday, I had a big RPM drop when I did a mag
check. Opened up the cowling on Saturday, and
discovered the #3 cylinder top plug wire was
disconnected. Reconnected it, cleaned all of the
plugs, and put the cowl back on. Did a runup, and
Flew it on Monday and on the way back home, it
didn't feel like the engine was running as well as
usual. Did a mag check after landing, and cylinders
#3 and 4 were dropping offline when the ignition
selector was on R.
Opened up the cowl again, and on first look,
everything seemed OK. Re-seated the plug wires, and
that didn't help. Dug deeper and found an electrical
connector for the lightspeed was loose. Secured it,
did another runup and finally, all good again.
Need to find something to do with my RV this
weekend, now that it's running well again!
Part 32: Resurrection ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection America'
Weldon 16 is cracking my canopy. Why??? ...dwranda
I had a crack in my canopy and decided to fix it
as well as I could using the weldon products. I
drilled a hole using a plexi bit to stop the crack.
I filled in the crack with the thinner weldon #3 and
sanded it down so its smooth. I then filled the stop
drill hole with #16. I checked it about an hour
later and there were little spiderweb cracks
emanating from the hole. I had no idea how they
showed up. I drilled those out and just filled those
holes with the 16 again. 10 minutes later more
cracks showed up. I drilled a bunch of practice
holes in some scrap and can't get any cracks to show
up in the scrap pieces. Why is my canopy cracking
when I put the weldon in the hole?
Sedona Airport Day, Sat. Oct 5, 2019
This Saturday, October 5, 2019 at Sedona Airport
(KSEZ) from 9 am to 3 pm.
Oct 3, 2019. Issue #4,926
...Sid Mayeux RV-7A
The VAF podcast.
First flight ...DeltaVee47 RV-14
We flew N557GB for the first time yesterday-twice
The plane flies perfect straight and level hands
off. A real testament to the Vans folks that a rank
amateur can assemble a plane that flies great right
1)The manifold pressure was reading about 30 inches
on takeoff where I was expecting maybe 28.5 at sea
level. I do not see that there is a calibration
ability for this in my G3X touch system. I have dual
p mags with a tee junction for the MAP tubing. Could
a slight restriction somewhere cause this reading or
should I look elsewhere?
2)I love the sensitive control inputs but pitch
seems almost too sensitive and when I put the nose
down and speed built up the control forces became
very heavy. I reduced power to avoid pulling too
hard. Normal for this bird? I actually hope so and I
will learn to use the touch of a surgeon.
Otherwise perfect flight. We found nothing amiss
under the cowl after so we buttoned up and flew
again because why not?
Thanks everyone for this and all the support over
POH and G3X Checklists ...Justin RV-10
Wanted to share the 'POH' I put together for the
plane. I basically copied the format of some
production aircraft and put it in a smaller 'mini
binder' format. The idea is that one, it tracks info
for me to reference but I can also let another pilot
(or passenger) read it and it will inform them of
some of the different aspects of what I put
together. I took it to Kinkos and got it color
printed and spiraled for $16.
I also really like the checklist feature of the G3X.
I not only use it for checklists but as a reference
source for performance data and maneuvers. The tool
to create it is a bit clunky but wanted to share
what I had anyhow. Just open it with the Garmin
Traffic from multiple sources - conflicting ...jeffsvan
My first install (before all the ADS-B equipment)
was a GTN650 with GTX330 transponder. This could
show a terminal area traffic on the display.
I believe that traffic is called TIS-A ?
Later I had the GTX330 transponder upgraded to a
This satisfied my ADS-B Out requirement.
I added a portable GDL39 antenna so I could see
ADS-B IN on my I-pad.
I am assuming that equipment sees the new TIS-B
My avionics shop said I could keep the TIS-A active
on my GTN650.
It would do no harm. Eventually TIS-A would be
Everything was working fine for many months,
however, the last few weeks I am getting continuous
false alerts on the GTN650 (TIS-A) showing a target
0 miles and 100 ft lower in altitude. I believe this
is my own aircraft.
Nothing shows up on the I-pad and I see no other
traffic near me.
I assume now I will need to shut off the TIS-A on my
I searched the GTN650 menus and could not figure out
where/how to do that.
My airport is located under a class B .
You can disable TIS-A traffic in the GTX 330ES
setup. Doing this should make the problem go away,
but of course you lose all traffic on your GTN since
it doesn't sound like it is connected to an ADS-B
receiver. You may eventually need to also disable
the RS-232 traffic interface between the GTX 330ES
and the GTN.
Some of the newer 1090ES transponders like the GTX
345/345R/45R and GNX 375 don't even receive TIS-A
Do you have more than one pressure altitude source
supplying your GTX 330ES and/or GTN 650? It sounds
like the ownship traffic identification is failing
since it is seeing a traffic target 100 ft below the
If this only happens when you are climbing or
maneuvering, it could just be the normal delays
which are present in TIS-A traffic. By the time your
aircraft receives an update of "you" on the ground
uplink, there is sufficient altitude and/or position
split that the system treats it as another aircraft
Your GDL 39 does not receive TIS-A traffic, so that
is why this has not been an issue except on the GTN.
31. Salt of the Earth ...Scott Chastain 'Resurrection America'
Am I missing anything on this Garmin GNS-430W pinout? ...jcarne
Hello everyone, I am trying to finalize the
pinout on my Garmin 430W tray and would really
appreciate it if someone with more experience could
review the items I crossed out in green to see if
there are in fact some that shouldn't be corssed
out. I think I have it down but I don't know what I
don't know. I also am thinking to myself "dang,
there is a lot of open spots in them connectors". I
would really appreciate it, even if you could direct
me with where to go for more info!
P.S. I read the manual, it doesn't give detailed
descriptions for most of this stuff. Or descriptions
that a noob like myself can understand sometimes
Most of it was based off of looking at the drawings.
Also attached is my panel. All Dynon through an
ARINC-429. Com is a GTR-200 and audio panel is a
Mega thanks in advance!
Classic Aero RV-14 Side Panels ...bkervaski
RV-14 Side Panels are here! The usual Classic
Aero quality .. A new latch system, vent cover trim,
and they even included tools and thick plastic
drilling templates .. nice!
52F Runway FOD Check 10/2
...Rob Reece hand model.
Oct 2, 2019. Issue #4,925
A reminder that there are criminals in this world and they are darn sneaky.
If, for example, a piece of expensive avionics comes up for sale
and you're interested in possibly buying it,
please read this first (#4, 5, 8 and 11 are pretty
important). A link to this document lives on the front
page a little bit above the Off Topic
picture. Buyer beware.
Unrelated, I guess you saw
from O'Hare. "That's how you do it."
Amazing Day First 2 flights! ...ty1295
Today was the day so many of us look forward to.
RV9A, Originally builder was Carl Peters who posted on here
several years back. He got the kit just past quick build
status, I was lucky enough to do all the personal item
selection like Dynon, Titan IO-340, Catto Prop, etc.
I purposely did not install any Aileron trim yet as I wanted
to see how the plane flew first. I am happy to saw we were
able to fly completely hands off first flight.
I can also attest to how valuable I found the "ADDITIONAL
PILOT PROGRAM". I am very fortunate to have a 700+ hr RV
Time and builder on the field, CFII and co-pilot of the 747
that flew into Oshkosh this year just a few hangars away. He
has been super valuable in his insight on building, and
today the flying. I did the takeoff with minor verbal
suggestions. During the flight one of us could fly, while
the other watch engine status, radios, etc. Being a low time
pilot I knew I wasn't ready to solo a new airplane, but
surely wanted that first flight of an airplane after years
of work and an empty piggy bank.
As I have read on here before, keep pounding those rivets
and dedicate time on a regular basis and you will make it.
What He's Using for Panel Pics ...Draker
Garmin supplies downloadable 3D models on
their web site for all of their G3X equipment. Go to their
manuals page, and click G3X 3D Models - .STEP
For the switches, buttons, lamps and knobs, many of the
components have 3D models available on DigiKey for download.
For the items without downloadable models, I just mocked up
something simple based on the hole cutouts and (if
available) drawings. I ended up doing my own models for the
ELT remote, pull cables, vents, USB charger, hobbs, circuit
breaker, parking brake handle, and round steam gauges. If
anyone needs any of these I could figure out how to export
Miramar Airshow Write-up ...bruceh
Hudson SFRA ...Saville
The weather worked out and there were no TFR's so I took
the opportunity last weekend to fly the Hudson SFRA
The pictures below are stills from the GoPro video I took.
They don't do the view justice at all - not sure why the
photos seem a trifle washed out - it was a nice clear day.
Updated version of RV-12iS Maintenance Manual has been published
Van's has published a new revision of the RV-12iS
Maintenance Manual. The list of updated items is below, and
the PDF document may be downloaded from the Service
Information section of the Vans web site.
RV-12iS Maintenance Manual v3.1 - Change List
1-21,22: INSTALLED EQUIPMENT LIST, updated the Skyview
Weight and Arm values
3-8: FIREWALL FORWARD, removed cotter pins as inspection
3-9: FWALL FWD, added "Check exhaust sys. ball joints for
proper anti-seize lube"
4-2: Moved "Cherry Max CR series rivet ..." note to Page
14-2: "EX-00030" in the Components table was "Muffler
16-3: Added QR code link to how to video to access ROTAX
912iS fault info in EFIS
17-3: Revised "rivets" section
18-3: Added ELT Self-Test, Insp. bat. Life for RC Panel &
Audio Alert Ind.
18-15: In the INSPECTION CHECKLIST add the "Self-Test"
RV-14a in Single Car Garage - build size? ...Poindexter
Planning on building an RV-14a in my single car garage
(hey, it's what I have!).
The inner garage dimensions are 10'2" wide and 20'4" long.
The good news is that doors open on both ends.
OT: The Sound of Marsquakes
"...Out of more than 100 events
detected to date, about 21 are strongly considered
to be quakes."
Oct 1, 2019. Issue #4,924
My RV Weekend ...bruceh
I got the chance to fly into MCAS Miramar and have
my RV-9A on static display for the 3 days of the
airshow. I'll write up more on the experience when I
get a chance.
New RV Stories Vid ...mothership
Brandon is from Denton, Texas and is building a
RV-12iS. He's also had some experience on a RV-10
The RV Weekend ...RV6_flyer
Short local flight. 0.3 Hobbs /
2.0 gallons on Sunday 29 September 2019
My GAD13 arrived from Steinair.
The GAD13, CAN Bus termination, and connector weight
3.8 Oz. Started looking where I am going to mount
it. GMU11 is in under the vertical stabilizer and I
wanted to mount it there BUT Garmin has a
recommended two-foot or more separation from the
GMU11. That would put the GAD13 in the tailcone and
I really do not want to work in that location.
There is room behind the panel in
front of the G5s on the "sub-panel" or bulkhead in
front of the panel. GAD13 mounted and should get
wiring done tomorrow. Will find out if my 'homemade'
OAT works after setting the G5s for the GAD13. IF my
'homemade' OAT does not work, then I will need to
purchase one of the recommended $100 OAT probes. Two
contacts, a little wire, some time, and $5 for brass
tubing using parts I already had on hand is not a
lot of wasted money or time if it does not work.
New ADAHRS/Magnetometer brackets for RV-7/9/10
Van's has released and is now shipping a new
mounting tray option for RV-7/9/10 builders who need
a place to install common ADAHRS/magnetometer units
from Dynon/AFS and Garmin.
These mounts provide the RV-7/9 or RV-10 builder a
convenient, pre-fabricated option for installation
of common AHARS/ADAHRS components from Dynon and
Advanced Flight Systems (SV-ADAHRS-200/201) as well
as the Garmin's GMU-11 magnetometer. When a builder
is not using one of these common components, holes
may be drilled in the flat support face of the
bracket to accommodate other devices, if/where
necessary. Determination of suitability for use with
other components is the responsibility of the
builder. When installed, these brackets are attached
in the upper tail cone. Stacking of two Dynon/AFS
ADAHRS units is supported.
Detailed information can be found in the OP-60
optional plans drawings, located on the Van's web
The Van's part numbers for the kits are:
RV-7/9 ADAHRS bracket kit
RV-10 ADAHRS bracket kit
October Wallpaper Calendar
...courtesy Mr. Ed Hicks
Special ...VAF advertiser
Sep 30, 2019. Issue #4,923
Friday I got in a little formation training hop with 52F new guy James
his RV-4. His brother John rode in my pax seat and
got some pics. Gary Platner rode in the back of James'
plane with helpful tips. Saturday Susie and I turned
this, and Sunday was spent nursing sore muscles. The
back still hurts but we saved money....;^). In the Tater
department, he got back the grade on his 2nd Chemistry exam at
SMU (25% of his grade). 89.6. And the grade on his
2nd Spanish exam? 88.25. The kiddo is adapting
well to college and finding his stride. He's back in the
chemistry lab now also as a PAID student - $10/hr. No more
of this intern stuff <g>. Chest swelling with pride for
the Tate Man!!!
Hope you had a great weekend and got to do some RV stuff.
There is a thread if you want to let us know!
John Walsh photo
I'm On My Way (the video) ...SuperCubDriver
Here is one first video as promised. More to
Initial Contact ...Brett
New to Forum - Considering buying an
I'm considering purchasing a used RV 7/8 as I really like
the RV aircraft performance, community and quality product
but have never flown in one. Wife and I were thinking about
flying out to the RV factory for a tour and get a demo
flight next week but their RV 7 will be gone to airshows and
they no longer have an RV8 to demo. They suggested reaching
out to the VAF forum.
I live in CHS SC, if anyone in the area or SC / GA would be
willing to offer a ride or let me sit in your aircraft and
discuss your experience it would be appreciated.
I have a friend who's building an RV-8 but he doesn't have
it here in SC yet and likely a couple years before it's
Weekend RV Fun ...rightrudder
Flew to Mojave Spaceport for breakfast. Always
fun to peek inside the Scaled Composites hangar...I
saw both ARES and Proteus.
So nice to have a smooth air flight. I got pummeled
by turbulence last week flying up to Lake Powell,
but the sunset flight over the lake was calm and
If you use Garmin Pilot ...9.7.2 is out
Weekend RV Fun ...Flandy10
College Football anyone? Three out of last
four weekends, it's been college football trips.
Have plane, will travel. First two were back to back
trips to West Lafayette, IN.
Weekend RV Fun ...Jerry Esquenazi
I flew back home to Falcon Field (FFC), Peachtree
City GA from the US National Aerobatic Championships
In Salina (SLN), KS, 714 nm each way.
I had flown there earlier in the week to support the
contest by volunteering in the various necessary
positions and see some friends. I was able to
deliver some parts I picked up at Spruce that a
competitor needed. I did not fly in the competition.
I've come to realize that I'm going to need to get
the right tool for the job. I'm never giving up my
RV-8, but I'm currently looking for both an Extra
and a partner in the S. Atlanta metro area.
By the way, Ron Schreck was the CD (Contest
Director) for the event and he did a masterful job
of organizing and running the championships. The
event is similar in scale to a small air show. We
had nearly 100 contestants that flew 300+ flights
and dozens of volunteers worked to pull off the
class act event. Everything from site prep, to
hangar space, fuel, the FAA, the city, banquet
facilities, rental cars, hotels, etc all needed to
be planned and coordinated. Ron's been working on
this for many months and his efforts paid off as it
was one of the most successful national
championships in recent years.
However, we only had one RV compete this year.
Oliver Spatscheck came all the way from NJ in his
RV-8. I'm sure Ron will update the leader board when
he recovers, but Oliver had a very respectable
finish with a 76.29%, beating out a Pitts and an
Extra. Way to go Oliver! Great to see you again.
On the way back, I filed IFR and climbed to 17,000'
to get through a line of thunderstorms near
Springfield MO. I had a nice smooth ride and a
fantastic view of the storms. I love my UAvionix
ADSB! At 17K, I was burning 7.4 gph and getting
about 170 kts TAS. I am sure going to miss my IFR
and night capability getting to and from contests if
I ever do get the Extra. Most of the Extra's are
restricted from Night and IFR use even if properly
equipped. The flight manual on the certified craft
requires Day, VFR use only. Many of the older ones
In any case, it was a super fun week! I hope every
one else had a fun-filled and safe weekend.
Your RV Weekend ...Mark Dickens entry
Flew the -8 to see an old friend in Shreveport
and help him get the gear on his RANS S-19 kit...
Alt Inop Light and G3X ...bjdecker UPDATE
Just to update this thread --
I removed the alternator put it with the "spare
parts" and installed a brand new one, problem solved
-- but not really.
A few weeks later, a buddy of mine was
trouble-shooting his alternator and wanted to
"borrow" the diode/regulator pack from my spare
stock; I carefully removed the screws connecting and
holding the diode/regulator pack in place and
discovered that one of the 3 wires was broken and
was just making a point-contact that was very
susceptible to vibration...
So, key takeaways --
1. The ALT Light is probably a good thing to have
wired into the G3X touch CAS.
2. It doesn't need a pull up resistor to make it
3. If it goes off (#assert) it means something is
wrong - for real.
This Weekend ...Vlad
I am far away from my RV but my good Dagestan
buddy just did first taxi runs. I am glad to be part
Engine stumble help ...Simon Hitchen
Hi guys, I've recently completed another annual
inspection. FWF I checked everything, removed and
cleaned the fuel injection nozzles, cleaned the
spark plugs, checked the mag timing..all the usual
things. Compression in all cylinders above 77.
I've flown 5 times in two days since the annual and
on two occasions while turning crosswind at 500'
after take off the engine has stumbled momentarily.
Normal operation followed for the duration of both
flights. Certainly took the enjoyment out of them
I downloaded the data file and for the more
pronounced of the two incidents there is a marked
drop in number 1 EGT with an associated drop in Prop
RPM (fixed pitch).
Any thoughts, maybe unseen debris in the injector?
Sep 27, 2019. Issue #4,922
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
Sky, Scorch and Grump years ago from the
Status Report ...jcarne 7A
Well it's been a couple weeks but not due to a lack of
work. I have been hard at it with wiring and panel work
while I still wait for my engine mount. I would have REALLY
liked to save this panel work for the winter as it would be
perfect inside stuff. It just didn't pan out that way
I decided to use some coated aluminum called Durablack to
make all of my panel labels. This worked spectacularly! The
Durablack meets a milspec and has some impressive
environment testing on it. I bought some Durablack in 0.020"
and 0.005". The 0.020" for a sheet of 12" x 20" was about 35
bucks from johnsonplastics, it also has a very nice adhesive
backing (although you can get it without if you want). This
size sheet was more than enough. The 0.005" was a little
harder to work with, didn't shear as well and honestly
really, really thin. The thin stuff would be great if you
wanted to curve a label; however, everything on the panel is
flat so 0.020" it was. This was also a great opportunity to
teach my new classes this year how to use our laser
engraver. Those of you that use a laser engraver know what a
reaaaal treat it is getting the power and speed settings
just right for a new material is. It took us quite some time
but in the end we got something that worked awesome.
The Durablack material is quite unique in the sense that
it is not anodized aluminum in the traditional sense. When
you laser engrave anodized aluminum you are left with bare
aluminum underneath that doesn't contrast as good as some
other colors. The Durablack once engraved actually turns a
rather bright white that contrasts nicely. Here is a closeup
of a couple labels. There was also the added bonus of
engraving center marks for the center punch so you could
drill em out!
Survival Bag/Kit/First Aid Thoughts ...Paul Dye
"Google "Caving Supplies" - cave explorers use bags that
need to keep things dry when completely submerged in muddy
water, and they need to be able to find them in muddy caves,
so they are often quite bright.
However, I subscribe to the maxim that :if you aren't
wearing it, you don't have it" in a crash. Your first
instinct in a crash is to get out of the airplane. If it
then catches fire, your survival gear is gone. Of course,
you can only wear so much, so a separate "supplemental bag"
isn't a bad idea...just think about having the essentials
(like a PLB and other signaling equipment) on your person
when flying over wild country."
dr's survival vest.
Search 'SRU-21/P' and you can find
many options online...
Survival Situational Awareness Thoughts ...pvalovich
I have been doing solo 2+ week backpacking trips
in the Sierra Wilderness for over 30 years. I've
also attended survival training courses in Cold Lake
Canada and Death Valley, CA.
Survival priorities are situationally dependent.
In extreme cold your first priority is warmth -
first build a fire. You must keep your hands from
freezing. After your fire is raging, relax and sort
things out. If you have snow/water, you aren't going
to die anytime soon.
In the summer desert, first find shelter from the
sun (even elemental shelter) and collect a
survivable water supply. If you don't have water,
you have to decide on whether to set off in search
of water, or stay put and bank on a timely rescue.
In most situations where you are uninjured, you can
survive for weeks with no/limited food if you have
water. Shelter can be built from just about anything
(check out the shelters used by the desert Indians).
The ultimate long-term survival tool is your brain
and your attitude - you have to want to survive and
deal with the hardships of living in the wilderness
Part 29...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection America'
How the heck to pull this rivet? ...Terry Shortt RV-7
I bought a used, mostly assembled wing and emp kit
and have been slowly but surely inspecting it one
piece at a time for build quality and conformity.
Came across something today that I'm gonna have to
ponder a little bit. I'm hoping somebody might have
a technique that would help.
On one of the ailerons, the previous owner forgot to
install the pop rivets on the back side of the
counterbalance pipe common to the nose ribs. They
match drilled the holes, but space is too tight to
get a pop rivet tool in there, even if I remove the
aileron hinge brackets. Likewise, I think that the
angle is too great to pull it sideways with any
confidence of getting it to set straight, especially
on the inboard side.
Does anyone have a technique for pulling a pop
rivet without a gun? I'm thinking about maybe
experimenting with some sort of threaded mandrel,
but haven't started experimenting yet and don't want
to reinvent the wheel if somebody's already been
Baffle Seal Photos ...Walt's entry
My CHT's rarely reach 350 even with the new HC
IO370 in Texas.
Sep 26, 2019. Issue #4,921
Note: Friday edition might show up online later than usual - schedule
HS remote work surface - RV style <g>.
Chair slides right under.
Reader Milestone: Retirement ...mike newall (England)
Well, after 27 years of Inter European, Airtours,
MyTravel and Thomas Cook, the robbers in the high tower
finally drove us into the ground. However, only the UK arm
of the airline was affected - miraculously, both the German
and Nordic airlines received support from their governments
and are still flying. Our fleet of 40 were grounded on
Sunday, the CAA and UK Government rented in 40 foreign
airplanes to recover our passengers at a cost of 600 mil.
Anyhow, I am 61, was going at Christmas in any case but that
doesn't cushion the blow for thousands of other employees.
But, on Saturday, I had to ferry an empty A330 from
Manchester to Glasgow - 36 minutes and bless them, the
Engineers asked for a full power take off.
I briefed the FO about the event, but it still blew his
socks off !
Here are the stats.
Normal empty position sector from MAN to GLA. The Engineers
had asked for a full power takeoff, which is required from
time to time to trap parameters. Once at Glasgow, it then
goes to Cancun and back. As they fuel with bowsers at GLA,
we take 30 tonnes of gas up to speed the turn, so my take
off mass was 151 tonnes.
V1 - 115kts
Vr - 115kts
V2 - 122kts
The anti stall/surge system on the Trent is MEASTO and it
controls the rate of acceleration of the engines, hence it
takes a while to spool up, but at full power, that is around
31,000kg of thrust from each engine, each consuming around
11,000kg per hour at take off.
Sorry fellas - times by 2.2 to make it imperial ;-)
So, we are on our way !
At rotate, we wait until the main bogies have dropped, that
ensures tail clearance and then it is a smooth pull to full
back stick which gives about 28*
nose up with full envelope protection in normal law. We are
now at about 150kts and the speed starts to decay slowly as
the rate of climb peaks at around 8500 fpm. Then you notice
a slight pitch down as the speed comes back to around V2
plus 10 and we continue the climb to thrust reduction and
acceleration at 1300' doing around 6000fpm. At no time
during the process are you anywhere near limiting speeds or
protections kicking in, it is just what an empty A330 does
when you give it the beans !
Then it is normal - albeit it with a slight grin.
We landed, got home, the airline went bust that night
I have done several talks to aviation enthusiasts over the
years so I reached out to see if by fluke, anyone had
captured the take-off. There are a lot of them every day at
the airport - great folks, full of enthusiasm for aviation,
just sometimes not able to take part.
Can you imagine my complete surprise when
this appeared on YouTube3 hours later.
A massive, massive thanks to AirBorn Media, John Rawson -
look at his stuff, great work.
That's it folks, full time RV building and flying, no
more sneaky meet ups down route, I need a new Barber, mine
was on OBT in Orlando - Rays Styling, Best Hair Cut In Town,
It's been a blast, but it is time to move on, my Doris
(Andrea) turned 70 this year, we got a new puppy, Woody -
lots of life and adventures.
To steal a good man's line.....
Back to Work
RV Hotel open for business in Harrogate England.
Pretty Cool Bead Break Tip
...seen on kitplanes.com (VAF advertiser)
Q: I have a 4 finished in 1992, I did not build.
I'd like to replace the alternator.
The one on the plane has no markings and the builder's log
makes no mention of it.
Did Van's supply them back then? Anyone have a suggestion
A: It may be the 35a externally
regulated alternator that Vans sold for many years. It is
from a 1978 Honda CVCC (no air conditioning). A common
rebuild part number for this alternator is 14184. But unless
your RV has relatively low hours the original alternator has
probably been replaced.
A: I have the 14184, works
Take a photo of the profile and harness jack with whatever
plug it has removed and it'll get sluethed out. The 14184 is
harder to find now- O'Reilly stopped carrying them. Still on
available from other online searches, if that is what you
have- but likely not true OEM New Densos.
A: I have
two 14129 (they interchange with the 14184) alternators, one
is a new rebuild in the box, one was removed from my Rv4 for
an engine replacement. I also have the original case
mounting brackets and a couple of regulators. would like to
get ride of everything - cheap. PM me if you have an
A: I also use 14184, but concur that
14129 is the same--except the fan is vaned to spin the
opposite direction--and it is easier to source. Alternators
don't care which way they spin and Van's originally supplied
the alternators without fans to begin with making the
direction of spin irrelevant. I took mine off to give better
cowl clearance. A blast tube in their place is a good
preventative measure though.
Part 28: The Wind ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection America'
Initial Contact ...Jeremy
Introduction: New RV-14 Builder
Wanted to introduce myself. My name is Jeremy, and I am a
relatively new forum member, but have been dreaming of
building an RV since the mid 90's. I am a private pilot, and
got my license in 1995, although for a multitude of reasons
I haven't flown much in the last 10-15 years. I'm now
getting back into active flying, and am revisiting the dream
of owning my own aircraft.
While I was in college in the mid 90's I poured over issues
of Kitplanes and Sport Aviation magazines, and wanted to
build an RV-6A. I even ordered a set of the preview plans
and thought I could figure out a way to build an aircraft
from an apartment, even though I was dreaming. I had no
money, no tools, no skills, and no place to build. That
dream would have to take a backseat until I was further
along in life. Of course, life has it's own ways of getting
in the way, so I really wasn't able to think about building
seriously again until now, more than 20 years later.
I have now made the decision to finally make the dream a
reality, and am in a place now where I think I can do this.
I'm getting current with my piloting skills again, and have
decided that I want to build an RV-14A. I just ordered the
RV-14 tool kit from Cleaveland tool, along with a few other
items (wow that was a lot of money for tools!), and also
ordered two of the Van's practice kits. Can't wait for all
of that to arrive. Once I have done the practice kits and
gotten familiar with the tools, I will place the order for
the RV-14A empennage kit...most likely in a few weeks.
I've studied builder logs and countless threads on this
forum, and think I have a good handle on what needs to be
done and how to do it, although I have no experience working
with aluminum. I have a lot of existing tools, an air
compressor, and have a lot of skill working on cars, and
large household projects. I also have a three car garage to
begin work in, along with a ton of general tools and a large
work bench to work off of. I will spend the next few weeks
plumbing air to different areas of the garage, and preparing
the space for airplane building. Also have a drill press,
bench grinder, band saw and bench sander on the way.
I will be starting a build thread, as well as an online kit
build log with lots of pictures and commentary as I get
started. I'm in the Denver area (Parker, CO) and would love
to connect with other builders or enthusiasts in the area. I
can't wait to get going on this project, I've been waiting
decades to do this!
First Flights Added
Sep 25, 2019. Issue #4,920
Weekend RV Fun ...flybill7
Seven RVs flew this weekend at the annual Easton
Airport Day in Maryland, featuring a mass formation
flight of 10 T-34s, 6 T-6, 1 CJ, 7 RVs and 4
Epsilons, followed by the famous Rubber Chicken
Dropping Contest. The weather was perfect, the
flying was great, and the catered food for the
pilots was the best you'll ever have at an airport
event and most restaurants! (I'm not kidding)
Here are the seven happy RV drivers: Top left to
right: Mugsy, Zack, Pablo, Jolly, Big Al. Bottom
left to right: Claw, Magellan.
FFI Donaueschingen ...pgroell (France)
The FFI formation clinic had begun a week earlier in
Donaueschingen (Black Forrest south west of Germany).
I could only make it to that part of the clinic and it was a
great experience flying with Christo and Shifty.
How long for rusty old pilot to transition in RV-9A? ...PaulvS
I've started transition training in a RV-9A and have
completed 4.5 hours dual and I'm finding it quite
challenging... actually it's much harder than I expected.
I last flew regularly 19 years ago and have about 110 hours
total time in low wing Pipers (Tomahawk, Turbo Arrow),
Grumman Tiger and Cessna 172. I never had any trouble with
my initial training, or adapting to different aircraft,
though I was a bit younger then!
I'm wondering how long it is going to take to get
comfortable with the -9A and how long other people have
taken to transition, in similar situations? According to
other posts on VAF it should be easy to fly. I've also
picked up some useful tips on:
- Nose wheel handling (similar to Grumman Tiger) takes
getting used to.
- LOTS of right rudder for take off. This keeps catching me.
- Lifting nose wheel early and also to not over-rotate.
- Relatively flat climb out at 110 Knots. My instinct is to
- Sensitive controls e.g. elevator - easy to accidentally
gain 200 ft turning downwind in pattern.
- Slowing down takes a LONG while with FP prop, even with
- Floats FOREVER when landing, so be patient and hold off,
but cross-winds have me worried.
- Holding nose wheel off as long as possible - however it
just drops down at the end when the elevator stops working.
- Adapting to Dynon D100. I am still referring to the steam
So I think my brain muscle still needs some more exercise
but I don't know how much or how to get there more easily.
If you can share your experience and how long it took you,
that would be appreciated!
RV-12 with a GREAT paint job for sale ...$53K
2011 VANS RV-12 LSA-EAB, $53,000, FOR SALE, 207
TTAF, 39 TTSN engine & prop. Jabiru 80hp generation
4 engine. GRT dual EFIS Sport SX displays w/SV, 4000
EIS, 2 axis AP, SafeFly 2020 GPS. Garmin 327 xpndr,
SL30 nav/com. PS Engineering PAR 100EX com/intercom.
Uavionix echoUAT ADS B In/Out, Kannad 406 ELT,
landing, strobes & nav lights. Both control sticks
configured for PTT, com flip/flop, AP
engage/disengage, aileron & elevator trim. All SBs
including upgraded nose fork. Sun-n-Fun 2012 LSA
Champion. Contact Tom Valenzia, Owner, Charleston,
SC, Telephone 760-443-8747
'Mr. X' Pics
...start at the link. Hover over the picture for
the description (lower left). All over the country and
Help needed diagnosing high fuel pressure readings
Hi gang, I need a little help diagnosing a
problem. The fuel pressure readings on my Dynon D-180
started fluctuating all over the place and I'm constantly
getting a "high fuel pressure" alert. The engine is an
IO-360 180/HP. equipped with both a mechanical and electric
fuel pump along with a red-cube. The engine is running fine
and all connections appear to be secure. There's no rhyme or
reason as to when the high pressure alarm goes off. It does
it LOP in a low power cruise configuration just as often as
it does on takeoff with the electric fuel pump running with
high power settings. When I'm looking at the fuel pressure
gauge on the EMS page I'm getting constant fluctuations
ranging from about 10 psi. all the way to about 40 psi. and
it never settles down to any particular steady reading. Like
I said above, all connections appear to be good, so where do
I start? Fuel filters? Sender? Air trapped in the line?
Thanks in advance.
Part 27: Scars ...Scott
Chastain's 'Resurrection America'
This Past Weekend's RV Usage ...SPX
Today, my wife and I finished up our "weekend" flight
from the SF Bay Area, back home to San Diego.
We took off from Concord, CA (CCR) and headed south to
Harris Ranch (3O8). After a nice lunch, we took off for
Carlsbad, CA (CRQ). We climbed to 11,500' and enjoyed a nice
20-30 knot tailwind, giving us a groundspeed of 180-190
knots. Around LAX, we were passed by a Blue Angel support
C130, with one of the Blue Angel Hornets flying formation
with it 500' below us.
My wife commented about how FUN flying in the RV is, and how
comfortable it is, and asked when we can go again?! All to
say, it was a great weekend.
Hilltop Lakes Annual Fly-In ...Tim Kirk (RV-7)
September 28, 2019
FREE ADMISSION & PARKING -- Come out and see classic,
vintage and experimental aircraft!!
-Come eat BBQ lunch with us, $10/plate - food serving starts
-One free BBQ plate per aircraft
-Drawings for door prizes
-$1 raffle tickets available for a Radio Shack scanner
-Drawing at 1pm (need not be present to win)
Airport Info: 0TE4 (private, but all welcome), Leona
VOR 251/13, lat. 31.08N, long. 96.21W, Rwy-17/35, 3000' x
40' paved, elev. 501', CTAF 122.9, right traffic Rwy 17
Let me know if you have any questions. Hope to see you
Over the Weekend: First Engine Run ...bwestfall RV-10
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Don't forget to purchase our "must have's", . . . No Weld
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Sep 24, 2019. Issue #4,919
and I (with Monk and his wife Kate) saw Peter Frampton perform
Sunday night. I've never seen him play live before, and
spent the evening in jaw-dropped fascination in the presence of
a proper gun slinger in his preferred element. This is, if
you don't know, his farewell tour due to a
Getting to see the famous '54 black Les Paul Custom with my MK1
eyeballs, arguably one of the five most famous guitars in all of
rock and roll, is a special moment in my life. Paul
McCartney's original Hofner bass? Jimi Hendrix's Woodstock
Strat? I can only think of a handful of what I would call
'Pillars of Rock and Roll' guitars. Peter Frampton's '54
Les Paul has to be one. It just has to. 'Frampton
Comes Alive' went platinum 8X.
If you don't know the story of this famous guitar, PLEASE take a moment
to watch both THIS
and THIS. I
think you'll be glad you did.
'Do You Feel Like We Do' played 44 years after it was recorded live....on
the same guitar. One of life's special moments.
Here's another vid
(16min) of 'Do you Feel' live from earlier this year. Same
lineup as we saw. If you have the time.
Thanks for letting me ramble on about music for a bit. Now back to
FFI clinic in Italy ...lucaperazzolli
Together with Tobias Treichel I
organized a FFI meeting in our local airport in
northern Italy (Trento, LIDT).
We had the great opportunity to put together six RVs
(3 RV-8, 1 RV-7, 2 RV-7A) with builders form Italy
(me and Franz), Germany and Swiss (Tobias, Hermann,
We were under the guidance of Stephen Christoper and
Steve Payne instructors and check pilot of FFI
During the week the group flew around north-east of
Italy to Asiago, Venice, Garda Lake and our
mountains doing a lot of exercises lerning formation
flight FFI standard techniques.
I flew with Stephen and Steve and I've really
learned a lot (knowledge and learning is never
enough). Thank you guys !!!
New guy here! Just ordered my 7 empennage kit! Very
excited to finally start the build. Will be a slow
start but glad to have a place to document and ask
for help! The next few weeks I'll be getting my
garage ready and building my tool collection.
Thanks I'm advanced for any and all help!
Steve - Long Island, NY
Aileron and Wing tip alignment ...Zazoos
All my rigging is done and
everything is within specs. YEAH!!!
My right wing tip is a bit high compared to the
I was thinking of two approaches to fix it.
First is to remove the rib at the tail end and then
take my heat gun to it. If it moves enough to align
then rivet the rib back in.
Second option is remove the rib at the tail end, cut
along the dotted line in the picture below, shape
it, and then glass it back together.
Which way would you go or have an alternate approach
Trip to Ashland, Oregon and more testing of FlightView ...ssokol
Amy and I took N101PR from San
Jose (KRHV) up to Ashland, Oregon (S03) for a brief
weekend get-away. The trip gave me a chance to test
out some updates and fixes to FlightView.
RV-10 Paint Update ...lr172
No paint booth. I almost made one,
but was concerned about the fan pulling in the
plastic, as well as the static issues related to
plastic, not to mention building a door. I just put
tarps over the floor and tools in the 2 car section
of my garage. Left the door open 2' with a fan
Having other garage door open helps some.
I had very little dust issues. I learned some time
ago that most of the dust comes from the painter and
not the booth. I wear a tyvek suit and it works. I
would sweat several gallons, but its the cost of DIY.
A nice side benefit is not having crunchy hair for 2
days from the clear coat. Some parts needed a wet
sand and some were passable without it. I have
learned that cut and buff is just a cost of painting
something in your garage. Unless you're good enough
to lay slick clear consistently, you're probably
going to do it anyways. Grounding any aluminum parts
also helps, as the high pressure spray creates
static electricity, which attracts dust. I also
spray water on the ground before spraying, though in
the summer temps it doesn't stay there long.
a 10 x 20 booth will be very
limiting, especially if the plastic is getting
sucked in by a fan. Don't forget that you will also
need a ladder to spray the top of the cabin top,
plus a creeper for underneath. I would not have
enjoyed spraying the fuse while constrained within a
10' booth. That leaves only 3' per side (before
accounting for the plastic being sucked inward) and
nothing at the front or back. You also need a door
and if that isn't sealed, what's the point. Without
a constraining booth, I was able to shoot the entire
lot of empennage parts in one session.
PM me if you want to discuss details.
This weekend's effort [ed. above]. Top sides
are wet sanded and don't care about a bit of orange
peel or a few dust nibs on the bottom side Don't
know how you would do this with a 10' wide booth. I
have decided to do the buffing once in Phase I. Will
give me something to do on days I can't fly.
Part 26: Trails of Dust ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection
This Weekend ...Planecrazy232
Flew 3 more Young Eagles on Saturday. I love it
when you get them before they were ever on a plane
Sep 23, 2019. Issue #4,918
So what did you do with your RV this past weekend?
There's a thread for that. The plan is for me to try
to remember to start one each Sunday. Hope you had a great
weekend and your Monday goes swell.
Build Status PIREP ...lr172 RV-10
It has been a while since I posted something
about my 10 build. Here is a pic of the project in
it's current state. Sprayed the wings today and have
only one more painting session for wingtips and
cowl. Thank goodness the painting is almost done. A
LOT of work for a project this size.
Just need to re-hang engine and finish off
baffling and some misc FF work. Should be flying by
In this pic, the plane has been wet sanded, but not
buffed yet. Also, need to re-spray the doors at some
point. Had a problem with color matching.
Building for maintenance and modernization ...Carl
I key design element common on the three RVs I built is
ease of maintenance and ability to upgrade as opportunity
presents, without too much pain. Toward that end I make sure
I never violate my rule of "never be on my back with my head
under the panel". This translates to a panel that is fully
removable for work/modification on the bench.
The RV-8 has been the most challenging for this as the
towers tend to be a real PITA for wire runs. Even so, a full
IFR, dual EFIS screen panel is achievable inside this design
In simple terms, wiring is divided into two elements:
- Wiring between components that stay on the panel, as
example for the RV-8 this is the GTN-650 and the audio
panel. Breakers for these components are also on the panel,
power connected via a large pin Molex connector.
- Wiring (and all other breakers) are mounted off the
removable panel. On the RV-8 the panel wings provide this
space. On the RV-10 it is the lower panel skirt. The SkyView
displays are all connected via D connectors, so all that
wiring stays in the plane when the panel is removed.
- Connecting between the panel elements and the rest of the
plane is done via two 25 pin D connectors - of which only
half of the pins are used. The rest are available for future
Charity Flight ...tcard 9A
There is a STAR program that arranges for US and
European detectives to spend some time in each
others' operations. While their weekdays are spent
gaining knowledge that can be utilized to improve
outcomes in their respective countries, the weekends
are for some entertainment.
One of the detectives involved with the program
in Austin is a pilot, and a few years ago he got a
couple friends together and they flew a few of the
participants to Fredericksburg (T82) for breakfast.
Over the past few years, that has grown to take all
of the participants along with their local hosts. I
was invited to participate this year, and was able
meet Stefan, and we had a great day.
I needed to get from my home airport, 40XS, to
Georgetown (KGTU) just 10 miles away to meet the
group. That part of the flight profile took me 20
minutes! When I left home for the hangar, KGTU was
1100 broken. As I picked up ATIS, it had fallen to
900 broken. Fortunately, visibility was great as I
could see the airport but just couldn't get there.
So, I called up Austin approach and asked for a
special VFR clearance. It took them a while because
there was other traffic on the IFR approach. I just
maneuvered in my happy VFR neighborhood and waited
patiently, OK, well, as patiently as I can wait.
Horrible brake noise with new brakes/lines! ...WingnutWick
So following my girlfriend's brake fire on her 6A I replaced
the tire, tube, pads, and put on a braided nylon line from
TS Flightlines instead of the previous rigid line. I cleaned
the brake assembly as well and replaced the O-ring. The
rotor was new just prior to the fire so I kept it. It had
darkened from the fire which I though would clean off after
a few uses of the brakes. I also used the opportunity to
swap the bleeder valve from the top to the bottom.
After the repair all seemed normal vice a small pulsing in
the right brake which I attributed to warping of the disk
from the fire. Then after a couple flights a groaning sound
began occurring during brake application which got
progressively and rapidly worse.
I decided to replace the rotor altogether.
I did this and initial taxi test seemed to solve the
problem. The next time we went to fly, the noise was there
with brake application and again, again getting
progressively worse. I looked at the pads and there was some
darkening that I figured was residue from the old, burned
rotor. So then I replaced the pads today with new ones
thinking that they had been contaminated by the old rotor.
Figuring I had the problem licked, my initial first brake
attempts had no sound, then to my dismay, about 5 minuted
into taxi test it came back again!
Now I am lost. I've re-done brakes a bunch of times on RV's
with never an issue. I'm guessing the reason the sound
doesn't start right off the bat after replacing thee items
is due to the fact the pads were still new and not really
gripping yet. But I still can't figure out what the heck is
causing this horrible sound. The left has the old rigid
brake line, the right brake (the repaired one making the
sound) has the new flexible braided one.
My suspicions at the moment:
1. Due to event small amount of potential residue which
remains from the original rotor? - Seems unlikely.
2. Due to swapping out the valve to the bottom?
3. Due to the new braided line somehow?
4. Some warping or compromise of the entire brake assembly
due to the fire?
Here is a video so you can hear the sound which reverberates
through the entire plane is quite unbearable. And photos of
both brakes. As always, your help and insight is priceless!
with brake noise
My New RV-4 Panel ...Camillo (Rome)
I just finished my panel(still have to
mark breakers) on my new RV4 I-BILT. First flight is in
short final. I am awaiting for the permit to fly. Panel is
very simple. It hides a Dynon T22 transponder. ASI,
altimeter, G-meter and magnetic compass are redundant
(already in the EFIS).
Shop Porn ...scard
you think you have just about too much, double it.
At least one of your many grinders setup on an open stand
with all covers removed and a schotchbrite wheel on both
sides. One side stays meticulously dressed flat with square
corners. The other side gets beat to death with grooves from
sheet material so that you can pull a part through it at
just the right angle and get the end and both edges all
deburred in one pass...."
2019 Mark Fullerton Memorial Fly In - 10/12/19 ...Amir
We would like to invite friends and fellow aviators to
our annual Fly In to celebrate Mark's Life at the Calhoun
Airport (KCZL) in Calhoun Ga. We lost Mark last year
just after Oshkosh after he suffered a stroke. Mark was many
things to many people. He was a brother to me, a mentor to
many of his teammates in the US Advanced Aerobatic team, a
teacher and loved by everyone that he met. Mark had an
infectious love for aviation and always figured out a way to
either share this passion with someone new to aviation or
just give us a push in finding a new reason to love
aviation. His relentless drive to be a better pilot drove
those who were close to him to better themselves.
We've decided to honor and celebrate Mark's life by doing
what he would want us to do . . . find an excuse to fly and
share it with everyone. So, grab a family member, a friend
or even someone that may be remotely interested in aviation
and come join us on October 12th for a fun time.
We will be serving Pancake Breakfast in the morning for
$6, but we want you to stick around to either take part in
the competition or simply sit back and enjoy. We want to
encourage Pilots to fly in so we're providing Free lunch to
all Pilots. All you need to do is RSVP with your tail
number. For all others, Lunch will be $6.
All Proceeds will go Children's Toy Drive Fund for the
upcoming Holidays in Mark's name.
Look forward to seeing you @ KCZL on Oct 12th
New builders safety tip ...Foghorn
Aluminum parts and some tools can cause damage. Get a
tetanus shot before starting your build. I had to get one
today. Be careful out there!
Sep 20, 2019. Issue #4,917
Cracking the hangar door just a tad let in some interesting light this
morning, and the reflections off the floor and how those
interacted with the RV caught my eye. What you can't see
is how bad that belly needs cleaning. Contrast is your
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend!
Houston area monthly lunch (September 2019)
Hello, friends and neighbors! The
third weekend draweth nigh, which means it's time
again to gather, eat some B-52 burgers, and talk
about our fine aircraft (or pending aircraft, as the
case may be).
Let's meet at the Aviator's Grill at DWH, this
Saturday at 11:30, for the usual.
Unfortunately I won't be able to make it this month
- got some contractors coming out on Saturday and I
need to be home to deal with them. So I'll catch up
in October, for what will probably be our last
fly-in lunch at Weiser.
Critique my panel design! ...Draker
After months of agonizing and
tweaking, I'm starting to get serious on a panel
layout. So exciting! I figured before I get the
chainsaw out, why not let hundreds of years of
combined VAF experience loose to roast/critique
it... likely there's something I didn't think of, or
a better way.
ADS-B IN/OUT DONE! ...BVD
I finally found some free time at
home to install my ADS-B (thanks Tim for the deal on
the GDL 82 and 50R).
I made a shelf across the longerons just aft of the
baggage area to mount the equipment. Mounted the
L-Band antenna on the bottom skin adjacent to the
next bulkhead aft, and the GPS antenna on the top of
the fuselage just aft of the pax seat.
Everything powered up as expected and once the GDL
82 was configured everything was in the green. I
recently removed the PSS AOA system that had an
indicator mounted in the left side panel, so I made
a little Switch/LED panel to put in place of the
indicator. The LED is for GDL 82 faults, and the
switch is a mini DPDT momentary down to test the
LED, center off, and up on for anonymous mode.
Worked out pretty good considering I'm working with
existing holes. The next step in the upgrade process
includes a GDU 460 and a new panel will be cut so I
can finally clean everything up and make it all look
The GDL 50R is really nice. Hard wired to the Aera
600 for weather and traffic, and via Bluetooth to
the iPad. The iPad is running ForeFlight and has BT
connections to both the 660 for sending/receiving
flight plans, and to the GDL50R for AHRS, weather
and traffic. Works perfectly! I now have 3 PFDs, 2
with synthetic vision.
Now I have to go back to work and make money to pay
TruTrak + BendixKing Webinar ...TruTrakAndrew
Please join me and Steven Pearce of BendixKing for a
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What the future integration of TruTrak will look
This webinar will be September 24th @ 5pm
link to register!
Part 25: Like a Thief
...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection America'
Sep 19, 2019. Issue #4,916
The Tater picked up a cold, so I used that excuse Wednesday to bring him
a care package and buy his lunch near SMU. Cough drops,
tea and honey, Keebler E.L. Fudge cookies... After we ate some
Bubba's chicken I watched him skate away on his board to his
chemistry lab, with what society would deem fashionably dressed
young students scattered about my FOV. As the boy rolled
away I saw the back of his shirt - the P-47 'Tarheel
Hal', a shirt from the Lone Star Flight Museum bought
many years ago.
That boy's head is screwed on right, me thinks. How many of the
12,000 students know about Tarheel Hal? My guess
would be exactly one. Two if you count my daughter, but
she has already graduated. ;^).
Next item: If you are in the DFW area and are looking at adding on
a multi-engine rating, I got this text from my MEI today:
"Doug, I had a student just
cancel and a training slot open up starting next
week for a test on October 10. Do you know
anyone that could use that slot?"
If you're interested in knocking
out your multi in a few days, Lora's contact info is:
Lora.S.Lewis 'at' gmail.com
(910) 583-Three Two Eight Zero.
Lora has a Diamond Twin Star with a G-1000 and a control
stick (just like an RV). You can read about my
multi rating add on
HERE if interested. I'm glad I did this
and would do it again - and don't kid yourself....it's
not that easy to find multi-instruction in today's
flight school environment. Most schools want a
'Zero to ATP' student now, and show add-on folks like me
the door. It took some time to find Lora.
Did I mention the plane has air conditioning?
Vid of RV-4 Takeoff
52F's James in his RV-4 taking off
Wednesday morning. Surprised how well the
little mic in the iPhone picks up that awesome
New RV-4 Owner ...Jake
So my wife and I decided to sell
our ultimate tool (Piper Comanche 260) and buy the
ultimate toy (RV-4). We ended up buying N213WT an
RV-4 with 180 hp O360 and FP metal prop. you can
tell she was definitely built right, but is showing
some wear and outdated from when it was finished in
1993. I plan to fly it into winter and then take it
offline for a major refurb and complete paint. since
the original cowl has numerous cracks I decided this
is definitely the time to replace it with a sleek
Sam James cowl and plenum. I am on their waiting
list but unfortunately they are saying it could be
up to 6 months, obviously you guys really like their
products. That'll push the paint back to spring but
with what we have in mind it should really be worth
it. This makes atleast 7 RV's in our local EAA
chapter, several built and several bought, but the
number is growing. Looking forward to meeting more
of you in person
Back Seat Storage Pouch or something ...fl-mike
I call this the "Purse Box", but
the wife is going to have to downsize... Sized to
clear the rear stick and mount to the back of the
standard front seatback.
Flew local sending a message to my
bride via Flight Aware:
RV-7 Status Report ...rmartingt
Small update... plans to acquire
the rest of the engine parts are on temporary hold
as my employer has announced layoffs... I think I'm
going to be okay but just be sure, I'm holding off
on making purchases. In the meantime, I've
decided it's a good time to fabricate my center fuel
pump/fuel line/wiring cover:
RV-8 Status Report ...Foghorn
Sep 18, 2019. Issue #4,915
Four of us flew over to the Whistle Stop Cafe in Decatur, TX (KLUD) for
breakfast Tuesday morning 0715 local. Short notice...I
didn't decide to go until an hour earlier. Eight minutes
each way. They make homemade pies daily, which explains
the picture below of my breakfast.
baby...these are the things RVs are made for.
Sid(7A), Rick(8) and Ross(6) flew
over as a 3-ship, smoke ON, overhead break. I
was minimal(ish) fuel so I opted out of the
formation rejoins and 3-mile initial, instead going
direct solo and buying gas there. Spent an
hour on the treadmill afterwards going through
emails, but the damage was already done.
00000KT, 82*F and CAVU. It was worth it, but
yeah I need to get on the treadmill
again....probably today. ;^)
Canopy Crack Update ...TomVal
Today I stop drilled and applied two applications
of Weld-On #3 to the crack.
For filling the ⅛" holes, I purchased a 4 oz tube of
Weld-On #16. I don't particularly like the
applicator tip that came with the adhesive. I
practiced with a scrap piece of lexan. The tip can
easily slip off the nozzle of the tube and make a
The applicator needle that came with #3 was too thin
of a needle for use with #16. What size applicator
needle or syringe should be used with this grade of
adhesive? Also, what technique did you use fill the
drilled holes without using tape on the underside?
Another Round of Pictures.
Scott promised more pictures last night, but I
needed to get some headsets ready for shipping, so
here is another round before work today. I will have
some more time this evening.
Uh Oh!? ...Strappe RV-12
I was working alone and frustrated that I
couldn't find someone to help me readjust out RV-12
on the saw horses in order to get an inch or two
more ground clearance on one side in order to
re-install the wheel. So I had this brilliant idea
that I could get closer to the aft sawhorse, raise
it with my back against the bulkhead in that area,
and shove another rug under the aircraft on top of
It worked, but just as I began to lower it, I hear a
loud pop followed by the tinkling sound that a small
piece of metal makes against an aluminum panel. The
link I have shared (I am not permitted to upload
images as attachments) shows the rivet head. It also
shows an area on the bulkhead closest to the
sawhorse location where four rivets are missing. I
have not yet found any portions of any rivets on the
floor around that area or anywhere else.
I am very worried that my utter stupidity has led
to a big problem, but I also wonder if during prior
inspections, I just didn't notice the missing
The bulkhead is easily accessible for inserting new
rivets, and it appears the holes are nearly all
lined up (the upper one looks a bit out of line). I
have contacted our local EAA RV-12 guru to come take
a look and advise me. I also would value the
thoughts of y'all on this forum.
Titan basic engines for Vans Aircraft ...advertiser press
Titan has now made available equivalent parallel
valve engine models to those that are offered by
Vans. They are priced very competitively. Here is
the link to the Continental Aerospace web site
section where they can be found
Fish Fry Fly-in KFRH ...Darren Kerns
I just wanted to post again that our annual Fish
Fry Fly-in is this coming Saturday. It will be from
We will be serving some of the best fried fish you
can eat along with cole slaw, baked beans, chips,
and a drink.
Please come and see beautiful Southern Indiana and
enjoy some great food.
Darren & Traci Kerns
24: Crossings ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection America'
Is this an Exhaust Leak?
O-320-A1A EXHAUST PICTURE
What say ye concerning the rust color on the head
near the exhaust flange and around the plug well?
It looks to me like a exhaust leak but isn't the
typical white color. The other thing I notice is the
flange studs...doesn't look like those nuts have
come off in awhile which means the exhaust hasn't
been removed for inspection.
Status Update ...David Paule 3B
Need opinions - insulation wrap in engine bay
I'd like to get thoughts on the pictures below.
This is 2,000 degree insulation wrapped around
exhaust and an oil cooler tube. My concern is that
this will be a fire hazard as the insulation gets
coated in oil over time.
Mothership Hangar Sign
Project (looking for input)
Sep 17, 2019. Issue #4,914
Happy birthday to our family's RV-6 'Flash'. She took to the air
years ago today in the very capable hands of RV Godfather Jay
Pratt of RV
Central. What a wonderful airplane and friend.
Related, looks like the mothership added (5) new first flight
reports on the 16th (see
'em). Congratulations to the newest RVators!!!
FOD Walk: 9/16/19
...my home field. Nosewheel/pant or
tailwheel related is the running theory. That
bolt is darn near pinky sized. FOD checks
Hand model Rob Reece (RV-8) dr
"It's My Party" Update ...tcard 9A
Sunday finds us back home in Austin. We were
thankful the stratux kept working as we ended up
with a couple hundred miles of sketchy weather. The
IFR ticket came in useful, although it was a
surprising place this time over the high desert of
New Mexico. After a couple hours in some light rain
and lots of clouds, 22C had to de-water herself
after we landed at E11. At first I thought we had a
huge fuel leak, but I calmed down quickly when I
realized it was just Mother Nature and physics
playing a trick on me.
Once again, a machine that was designed by Vans
Aircraft and painstakingly built in a garage by two
people with no airplane construction knowledge, but
who did possess the right amount of tenacity, took
us half way across the country in a day in order to
enjoy some of what our country has to offer and
celebrate an important day with a great friend.
If you're still building, keep at it. Every rivet,
bolt, wire, and frustration will yield a plane that
doesn't just bring you places but builds a whole new
Ready for its
Close-up ...photo album.
RV-10 N4KJ just out of GLO Custom at 52F.
iPhone pics because that's all I had (sorry).
What did you do with your RV this weekend? (9/14/19)
Man did this thread ever take off.
I'm guessing somebody will start one each week? Hope
Remote Avionics Mounting ...Kevin Lippert
Although I have Dynon and the Advance ECB, this
will give you and idea of where I mounted the items:
Solution! Kind of? ...transit issue
Thanks for all the help! After testing on the
ground and in the air, I determined that it
definitely was not a directional issue. Bought a
cheap SWR meter and a Multimeter and took the
avionics panel off. The coax from the radio is
connected via BNC to some kind of relay which is
mounted to the instrument panel. Then a separate BNC
connector takes the cable to the antenna. Hooked up
the SWR meter and everything looked great. Ranged
from 1.2 to 1.4 with 5 W of power.
Then I broke the multimeter out and started testing
coax. Lo and behold, it appears the coax from the
radio to the relay is shorted somewhere. Just bought
some BNC connectors and crimping tools and will
attempt to fix tomorrow.
Had another question though -
I know the short could be anywhere along the wire
and not necessarily at the BNC connector I tested.
The connection to the KY197 is a right angle one. Is
there any weirdness to taking that one off and
repairing a solder? Or should i go ahead and buy a
new 90 deg connector? Going in game plan is to chop
off the BNC connector I have easy access to and test
the wire. If it turns out the wire is bad along it's
length, then I'll splice. I'm just worried that I'll
find out the 90 deg connector is bad and I honestly
have no idea how to go about repairing it.
Thanks again for all the help!
23. Clouds and Thick Darkness ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection
Sep 16, 2019. Issue #4,913
from the vault
Lycoming oil cooler line connection
I found an image on the forum that
showed the accessory case of a Lycoming engine with
specific locations for connecting the oil cooler
lines. My engine is an IO-360-A1A and I'm having
trouble removing the plug that is located at one of
the locations so that I can install the appropriate
AN fitting. My question is (referring to the file
linked to below) if it would be acceptable to use
the #2 opening (located behind the tach
drive--there's a plug sitting on top of the opening)
rather than the #1 opening (which was identified in
the other diagram)? It appears to me that both
openings are in the same oil passageway in the back
of the accessory case. Thank you!
Golden Ray Flyover ...pilotkms
Needed a place to fly. The cargo
ship had turned on its side over near St Simon's
island so gotta go see it. Met up with my fly buddy,
Butch RV6A, over Dublin KDBN at 5500' and We headed
Starter oil leak
Q: I have a TCM 655551
starter, it's a geared lightweight starter on a
continental O-200 A82 It's leaking oil out of a weep
hole on the bottom. There are no parts
diagrams, and TCM doesn't support it. It looks
like a knockoff of a B&C I'm pretty sure it's an oil
seal at the front gear that needs to be replaced.
Any one have any experience with these starters and
can suggest a place to obtain a seal? I've
called starter rebuilders, TCM, and B&C, no luck.
I know I can buy a new starter for $600, but it
seems like a bad solution to a $10.00 seal. Any
pull the seal to avoid damaging the number on the
seal. Take it to your local bearing shop and they
can find a replacement for you.
Part 22: Wisdom ...Scott
Chastain's 'Resurrection America'
AOPA Tullahoma Fly-In ...N402RH
Pictures of the AOPA Sweepstakes
RV-10 front and center at the AOPA Tullahoma Fly-In.
It is pretty awesome to see all the traditional
certified aircraft pilots get so excited about a
Van's RV-10 and our AdvancedPanel. I got the
opportunity to fly it from Frederick, MD to
Tullahoma, TN on Wednesday afternoon and somebody is
going to win a really nice RV-10 late next year.
Instrument panel bracket ...Av8torTom
Hello everyone, I've had to move
my instrument panel support bracket to make room for
my Garmin GDU-460. It now falls right in front of
the canopy jettison reinforcement bracket. To rivet
the relocated bracket in place I'd have to remove
the reinforcement bracket, rivet the panel support
bracket in place then replace the reinforcement
bracket... Anyone see a reason why I can't use pull
rivets here? There will be 6 of them. Thanks.
Reposition to Vegas...tcard 9A birthday trip
Thursday started with a run to a
24-hour Walmart store to pick up Stratux supplies.
Investigation last night showed the micro USB
connector to be less than stable. Just a little
jiggling, and off went the device. Even holding the
connector in wasn't a sure-fire way to keep it
running. Wallyworld yielded a new cable, soldering
iron, and some solder. We will try the easy solution
first. Back to the hotel for breakfast, pack up the
overnight bag, and off to the airport.
We said bye to Tony and loaded up, pointing the nose
to Sedona per the several suggestions here. We
wondered aloud just how much the altitude would kick
our behinds on the hike at 5000 feet. We live around
Status Report: RV-10 ...LCampbell
For what seems like simple objects the elevators
sure do have plenty of steps to them. All done now
and it went pretty well. The biggest speed bump was
joining the club of the twisted elevator trim tab. I
remade the left one when the first try produced a
trim tab with a quarter inch of twist to it. I guess
I got lucky, because the right one came out just
fine. When remaking the left one, I did just about
every step, with the tab weighted, clamped or taped
to the glass table top trying to keep it straight.
When it was done, it came out close enough to be
Lean of Peak ... I smell fuel? ...bkervaski RV-14A
So getting my head around Lean of Peak, I got the
I've gone LoP twice, once on the way to Airventure
very briefly, thought I smelled fuel so I went back
RoP. My passenger didn't smell anything.
Today, went LoP (7500 feet) and smelled fuel again,
this time the same passenger did smell it.
I never smell fuel any other time.
I'm assuming that it's just the overflow from the
engine driven pump making its way back into the
airplane from suddenly going rich to lean?
My fuel pressure usually stabilizes around 28psi
(without the boost pump).
At any rate, scared me off trying again until I
figure it out.
Plane built by Sutter County students has successful inaugural
Seven Sutter County students built an airplane
through a program called LSA Teen Airplane Build
created by the Northern California Aerospace
Initiative. On Saturday, Sept. 14, 2019, they had
their inaugural flight. BY MACK ERVIN III
Sep 13, 2019. Issue #4,912
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend!
Eagle's Nest Projects - Central HS (WI)
Valarie Meyer - 1st Solo Flight (RV-12)
My solo was the most exhilarating experience I've
ever had. Being up in the air and doing it all on my
own was so empowering. I'm so thankful that I've
gotten the opportunity to join this program and to
have the privilege to work with Mr. Ferguson. He is
a wonderful instructor and mentor, who prepared me
well for this moment. - Valarie
- Mickey Ferguson, Valarie's
It is amazing to watch this impressive young lady
growing in leaps and bounds in skill, knowledge,
confidence, and character. The Eagle's Nest Program
is an amazing opportunity for these aspiring
engineers and aviators and both Valarie and I are
learning so much through our association with this
- Jim Senft, ENP Project Director
Valarie is a strong, soft-spoken, intelligent young
person. She never lets anyone or anything get in her
way of success. She faces every challenge with
compassion, determination, drive, and thoughtful
thinking. She is a beautiful flower that will grow
in the crack of the sidewalk. Valarie is an
outstanding young person that has a future in
Dealing with an RV-12 Heavy Wing ...John G
Before getting draconian with the aft edge of the
flaperons first take a look at the cantilevered
portion of the wing skins that extend aft of the
wing's rear spar.
Use a straight edge and make sure the wing skin aft
of the rear spar is on the same plane as the wing
skin forward of the rear spar. Do this on both
wings. I was shocked that evening out the skin in
that area (seemingly small amounts) completely
corrected my heavy left wing. Below is a link to my
site with photos.
Birthday Flight PIREP ...tcard
The trip is off to a great start. Scott and I worked
half a day, and we were airborne by 2. Our normal MO
would have been to start bright and early tomorrow
morning, but we thought we'd try a different
approach for this 1000nm trip and break it into two
days. It only cost us half a day extra of vacation
by leaving in the afternoon. Yes, a bit risky with
summertime storms popping up over West Texas, but
they are usually 'fly-around-able'.
As expected, we did run into some good sets of
thunderstorms, but it was far from a solid line. ATC
was constantly providing updates for other flyers
out that direction of 50nm ahead, severe
precipitation about 30nm in diameter, deviations
left or right of course approved.
Initial Contact ...Bruce in Houston
Houston area RV-12? ...
Hello! This is my first post so I'll do a bit of
introduction before I get down to it. I'm currently
living in Houston working as an engineer in oil &
gas and ever since I was a child my father and I
have discussed building an airplane together; now
we're finally at the point where it's something we
CAN do. He currently flies a Cherokee 180 and I'm a
student pilot with about 10 hours in my logbook. I
had been thinking of a Kitfox but he wants to build
an RV-12. Obviously airplanes for slightly different
missions but with a lot of overlap in the "general
fun" category... One of my big concerns is comfort
since I'm about 6'1". I've never had the opportunity
to get close to an RV-12 so I was wondering if
there's anyone in the Houston area who'd be
interested in at least letting me sit in their
airplane to see how I fit? And, if you're up for it
I'd happily split gas and buy the burgers if you're
willing to take me for a ride :-)
Part 21: On High ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection America'
Glass Panel Thoughts ...Martin
I got myself a run of the mill glass panel just
to get flying. Bought myself a G3X legacy unit and
GTX-327 second hand on Van's Airforce. The rest I
bought new with full engine monitoring. The entire
thing cost me $6250. I then installed an Ipad mini
with Garmin pilot next to the GDU-370 for
navigation. Works like a charm. Will try and load a
GDU-370 - $1300
GTX-327 - $450
GTR-200 - $1200
LRU kit - $3300
New to Me Kit ...Terry Shortt
After what seems like lifetime of flying other
peoples airplanes, a couple of years ago I started
getting serious about an RV.
I won't bore you with the details of all the
analysis paralysis I went through, but I had pretty
much finally settled on a 7 and even though I was
hoping to find a deal on a used kit, I'd given up on
ever finding one that was both a decent quality and
close enough to go through the hassle of bringing it
I was planning to buy a new emp kit on Sept 5th
because it's my birthday, but on the 4th a guy here
in town reached out to me to see if I was still
interested in buying his 7 wing and emp.
Timing was right, price was right, and the location
couldn't be beaten. 2 days later I had it in the
garage. How cool is that?
It needs some rework, but I couldn't have asked for
an easier transaction and I'm really excited to dig
After the dust settled, I started a kit log with the
new EAA program. Here's a link if anybody is
interested. Feel free to comment, as I'm sure I'll
have tons of questions and mistakes made along the
Sep 12, 2019. Issue #4,911
significant milestone today, Airworthiness!
So, upset training/aerobatic refresher in the
Decathlon the end of this month followed by
transition training with Mike Seager mid October
then some appreciation for many years of effort.
I guess the certs aren't pink anymore, white will
Rio Communities, NM USA
RV-10 Baggage Compt to Tail Cone Door ...Carl Froehlich
Here is a simple access door that allows visual
inspection of the batteries, battery relays and tail cone.
It comes in handy, but for any real work the lower bulkhead
panel needs to come out.
Low Fuel Pressure II
I have also been experiencing low fuel pressure, somewhat
similar to Larry DeCamp's
Hopefully, this can shed some light on his issues as well.
I experience low fuel pressures during climb out with the
mechanical fuel pump when I shut off the boost pump. By low
pressure, I mean my Dynon D10 EMS indicates "0" psig. The
engine never misses a beat but it is very concerning. When I
reach top of climb and push over, lean, accelerate, and
throttle back, the fuel pressure comes back to normal (4-5
psig). If I engage the boost pump during climb out, pressure
again comes back to normal. I replaced the fuel pressure
sending unit but that didn't resolve the issue. I also bled
the air out of the fuel pressure manifold that the pressure
sending unit is plumbed to.
It all seemed to have started after I replaced the fuel pump
because of the mandatory fuel pump
service bulletin. I replaced the LW 15472 with a Tempest
AF 15472. All documentation that I have found says that they
I have a Mattituck TMX 0-360 carbureted engine with fixed
pitch prop on a RV-7, a Vans stock Facet pump, and Dynon
Loring AFB Maine Anniversary
FlyIn - 2019
Join me flying up to Maine over two days in
August to visit Loring AFB which was closed 25 years
ago as part of a special flying event. I flew over
1000 miles over two days and came home with some new
Triple Tree photos
Dolly and I spent the week at TTA. Photos are on our
Select "flying" from the menu strip below the photo.
RV-7 "Dream Weaver" N50KB
Bahamas relief flights ...mattwood
The Valiant Air Command based near my old home town of
Melbourne Florida is using their WWII C-47 Skytrain to
deliver thousands of pounds of supplies to locations hardest
hit. Their logistics team in Melbourne has put together a
warehouse full of items and they've been making contacts
with companies that can provide for the next phases of the
relief and restoration efforts. The flight crews, mechanics,
logistics folks are all 100% volunteer. The Valiant Air
Command is a non profit, educational organization. The C-47
is a fully functional flying museum that flew two missions
on D-Day and served extensively in the European theater
during WWII, including the Berlin Airlift. It's capable of
delivering 4000 to 5000 pounds of goods into smaller,
unimproved airports at remote locations but each round trip
sortie costs about $5000. They need gas money! All donations
will go directly to the operation of the aircraft for supply
runs. No overhead, in fact the VAC has already gone deep
into their own reserves to make the relief flights happen
because they believe this is a core mission of their
aircraft. Any little bit will help. If you'd like to
contribute to the Bahamas relief and make sure that it all
goes directly to support and service for the victims
Fuel Leak and Cracked Flare
...Vic Syracuse in Kitplanes
A major fuel leak was discovered on this airplane not long
after the first flight. The majority of the fuel in the tank
leaked out overnight. The culprit was a cracked flare at the
tank pickup, as well as the use of an improper flaring tool.
Standard AN fittings require a 37-degree flare, not the
typical 45-degree flare used in the automotive industry.
RATSU Intersection ...Paddy
The famous RATSU intersection on the North East
corner of the Shanwick FIR. If you cross the
atlantic in a little airplane (or even a big one),
you'll be putting this one in your flightplan!
Mothership at Tullahoma Fly-In ...Sept 13-14
Sep 11, 2019. Issue #4,910
Hurricane Dorian Relief - RV-10 Style! ...AV8ER
Was able to load 480 pounds of donated
water, food, hygiene, and bedding in the RV-10 and fly it
for Angel Flights to North Eluethera where it will be
distributed by boat. A few keys to loading the plane to the
gills with gear are as such:
Put rolled paper product in the baggage compartment as it is
extremely light for the volume it occupies to keep CG in
Leave the rear seats in place and only remove the padding on
the bottom to allow the uprights to ensure nothing heavy
Fill the largest backpacking backpack you can find (I used a
60 liter Dueter backpack) with water bottles and strap in
the co-pilot seat. The rest fits wherever it fits, starting
with the largest boxes/parcels first then infilling. Was
able to load then entire 480 pound pallet in the plane this
way and keep it within CG. The water in the co-pilot seat
The mission as per Mercy Flight Southeast:
"Bahamas Methodist Habitat has requested our help flying
supplies to North Eleuthera (MYEH, White Crown Aviation FBO)
where they have customs services and goods can be brought to
Abaco and Grand Bahama by boat. Domestically, we now have
supplies available to us in Ocala, and Ft Lauderdale
Executive at Banyan."
RV-10 to Ireland and Back Update ...Paddy RV-10
N415JS arrived home to LL10 near Chicago on
Saturday afternoon after a round trip of over
7,000nm. The airplane didn't have a single squawk
the entire trip - what a wonderful machine. Thanks
The last couple of days were long ones, Reykjavic to
Iqaluit on Friday and Iqaluit all the way home on
Saturday. I learned to make the most of the weather
while you have it on a trip like this.
Many thanks to those who have done this before me
and been so generous in sharing their wisdom. In
particular, I'd like to give a shout out to Herman
Schiele who not only talked me through the details
of his own crossing, but kept watch over me from the
left seat of his 747 when our paths crossed.
Here are some pictures of a most excellent
Update on Crack in Windshield ...Capt
15 months now since I stop drilled my small crack, the
very tiny one that started beyond the filled hole has not
progressed any further, am glad it's not in my view!
Welcome to the club TomVal, it's something you accept and
live with, hurts though at first! :^(
Question on Bellcrank/Autopilot ...RV-14
When installing my roll servo, I
discovered a discrepancy between Van's instructions
and Garmin's instructions. Drawings are below:
Van's has you put a nut plate in the bellcrank for
the bolt that holds the autopilot pushrod. This
means that the head of the bolt is on the bottom of
the assembly and therefore has gravity as an enemy.
In addition, I'm not sure about using a nutplate and
threads to hold a bolt that is responsible for
holding a moving/rotating part. However, I've found
that Van's usually has a pretty good reason for
nearly everything they design. Drawing below:
Part 20: A Blinding Flash
...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection America'
Seen at 52F
Buddy Scott's RV-8A on a nice polished
hangar floor. Beautiful!!!!
Sep 10, 2019. Issue #4,909
It's My Party and I Can ... (tcard)
...fly if I want to! OK, well maybe it is
really, "It's my birthday and I can..."
I started a new job a couple months ago [huge blessing], and
there was supposed to be a week off between gigs for Scott
and I to head out on an adventure. Due to circumstances,
that week of entertainment disappeared faster than a
snowball in Texas in July.
So what is one to do when the birthday
rolls around? We head west to join the bigger RV family
birthday, of course! I'm sure it will be epic, as any
adventure should be. It starts Wednesday around lunchtime as
we make a couple of afternoon legs for an overnight in
We are used to Tex-Mex in central Texas and are looking
forward to starting the adventure with a New Mexico flavor.
Any local dining insights out there from our VAF family? We
could also use some suggestions for a brunch stop in
Maybe a new idea on Jacking points? ...DennisRhodes
Take a look at the URL and see what you
think of the idea for a round tube split block jack point
for the main gear. This tool would be handy for removing a
wheel / tire or wheel bearing work. It is only a jack point
and does require a floor or other style jack. This one is
the Homebuilders "model" and it could be CNC router cut and
still I believe, affordable.
Some of the issues are that MOST RVs have a different axle
bend angle and as result the block would be unique to the
Model. I think 6 s and 7 ( not A) have the same angle. the 9
as shown has a 48 deg angle and the 9A is ?? different.
Don't know about 4 8 or 10s
Elevator Skin - Bad Day ...RV701775
I had a bad day today while priming my
right elevator. After prep, I hung the right elevator up to
dry and it fell off the hook about a foot onto the grass. It
landed long side down and flexed a bit, but luckily I was
working over my lawn. I did not see any bends or damage, but
it did flex quite a bit. Any thoughts as to whether there
could be hidden damage?
Also, after priming I noticed a dent in the skin. I think I
may have tipped my cordless drill over and didn't notice.
Any thoughts about how to fix this or if it could lead to a
crack down the road?
I am going to take a break and get back to it in a day or
Status Report ...jcarne 7A
Panel work is still going strong. Had to
cut an opening in the sub panel. I used 0.063 angle to
reinforce it, maybe a little overkill but hey it works and
the weight increase is small.
Part 19 ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection America'
Sep 9, 2019. Issue #4,908
Howdy. I've updated the
donation page as of
9/6. Hopefully without sounding too panicked, only 961
people have sent in an honor system donation this year to date
for a total of roughly $18,000 after taxes. There are 27,459 registered forum users (and
another 50,000 unregistered lurkers) using VAF on a pretty
regular basis. The year is now 2/3rds over and the fam is kinda hurting
on the cash flow front. If you are one of those chaps who
waits until the end of the year to send in their honor system
donation, I would ask that you consider sending it in earlier
this year. Ads plus donations
usually make this 1-family business venture work, but this year we're
way behind and college expenses have really taken a toll on our
Please donate yearly if you use
this site, and if you think the RV community benefits having a
product like this online. I think it does, and that is why
our family bet the whole farm on it.
Thank you for helping us keep VAF online,
Doug (and Susie, Audrey and Tate) Reeves.
Your VAF hosts.
First sunset ...bwestfall RV-10
I'm at the 98% done 98% to go stage. Moved my kit,
#40579, to the airport a week and a half ago after 13+
years. I was working a long afternoon into the night at the
hangar final assembling the tail and I looked up and this
caught my eye. Can't wait to do this shot again soon
accompanied with the smell of burnt avgas, heat waves rising
off the cowl and the subtle ticking sound of the engine
cooling after shutdown!
BREAKFAST ENCORE ...chrispratt RV-8
My wife and I enjoyed the smooth air and breakfast so
much last Friday that we decided to test our luck again
today. This time at Sulphur Springs, TX (KSLR). (As a
photography buff I wish my airport had this ID: SLR,
The nice sunrise over the bridge on Lake Dallas made me
think of all the professional pilots who have to literally
face this almost daily in their jobs. Bright sun in the eyes
- you may as well be IFR. And I'm sure it's worse heading
West in the afternoon with the added heat.
We saw a lone hot air balloon hovering over Plano, TX which
means virtually no wind, smooth air. We enjoyed this smooth
air both out and back which is why we left early. By 10:00
a.m. around here the turbulence down low can get pretty
uncomfortable for the passengers. As it was, we had smooth
air even at 2,500 ft. for the entire trip.
Breakfast at the Red Barn Cafe - a short walk across from
the terminal at the south end of KSLR. Always a good,
reasonably priced meal - your basic American fare. Plus a
friendly and often curious crowd when you walk in with your
airplane hat and shirt on.
Received a nice compliment on my airplane by a worker at the
airport as we were walking back to plane. That always makes
me feel good. (Keep pounding those rivets - it's worth it.)
Have a great RV weekend.
Part 18: Freedom ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection
Status Update ...David Paule RV-3B
Been working on small stuff for now. I added a couple
Adel clamp tabs to some stringers, things like that. Here's
one of the things, the shoulder harness attachments. I'd
seen one RV-3B that had the turtledeck locally flattened at
these attachment fittings due to the rivets forcing the skin
to conform to the thicker bars. I glued these fittings in
place before riveting and the external contour is fine. The
photo shows it glued but not yet riveted.
Wheel pants and landing gear fairings ...rongawer RV-12
I've read many different posts on the value, or
non-value, of wheel pants and gear fairings. So,
I've been experimenting and collecting some data and
finally have a full report now that I finally have
my wheel pants on, and the also made and installed
main gear fairings with RV Bits intersection
fairings. Noting that Van's says about 4KT for the
pants; I can confirm that.
What I've found is that without any fairings on, I
cruised at about 111 KTAS at 7500 feet at economy
cruise power, averaged over about 100 hours of
Then I installed the wheel pants and flew to KOSH
and back this summer. I found I cruised about 115
KTAS for the same power averaged over the whole trip
between 7500 and 9500 MSL.
And then I installed the main gear fairings and just
returned from a trip to Nashville, down to Pensacola
and then back home (C83). Over that trip I found I
cruised at about 118 for the same power settings.
And at FT, well, she really gets after it.
And for the pundits, no, that's not calibrated data,
it's just averaged flight time over about 250 hours.
But a real set of data points no less.
RV-10 Window Blow Out Update ...Keith
Well, I got my window installed and ended up using the
Weldon from Vans. It is just as bad to work with as
described. Was going to use Lord,but Aerosport was out of
stock and could not give me a definite date when they would
have it. I wanted to get flying sooner that that. Used Vans
window vs Cee Baileys b/c Vans is .150 and Cee Bailey says
their side glass is .125 But the trimming is time consuming
for sure! Now I am putting on my flame suit,but I have
decided to put c/s #6 screws in the corners of All my
windows with nylock nuts on the inside so that I will only
lightly snug them. I have a full Flightline interior and the
"rope" trim will cover the nuts. Experimented with the
remaining parts of the old window as well as the cutoff
parts of the new window and it works quite well. Gonna glass
over it anyway so I like the belt,suspenders & elastic
waistband! Flame if you choose but if you haven't lost a
window in flight,turn down the heat just a bit. This is why
they call it experimental, right? Just thought I would relay
"the rest of the story"
ps;Vans tech support didn't see
anything wrong with my plan, thought it sounded feasible.
Panel Status Shot ...Roo747
Set up for IFR. [ed. I
really like that flap switch and Boost Pump switch on the
left where you can get to it with your throttle hand easy.
RV-7A Status Report ...jcarne
The three day weekend and after work has been kind to me
this week. Got lots accomplished while I still wait for the
new motor mount.
First I installed the backup ADAHRS unit. It sits a little
higher than the one on the right so that is why the aluminum
tubing support is off a bit. It also just occurred to me
that the adel clamps and screw I used are ferrous, I may
need to change this (although there is some ferrous metal in
the backshells and connector as they come from Dynon). I
also need to add a little RTV on the OAT wires where they
come off the rib as a little bit of anti chafe.
Skirt Status ...kentlik 7A
Have left skirt bonded and it fits
well. Took more rivets than I would have liked. I
need to clean up the Sika a bit here and there. Now
on to the right skirt.
Sep 6, 2019. Issue #4,907
James W. is the new guy on our field. Bought an already-flying and
unpainted RV-4 and is looking forward to learning formation with
some of the local B.C. Squadron and attending Whataburger
Wednesday outtings ;^). The skies of N. Texas are
very well defended by Van's Air Force!
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
click either to enlarge
Over 1000 hours on the air frame ...BMW_X6M
I purchased a RV-9A finished in 2004 in July of
2012 with 193 hours on it. The first two owners
barely flew it in 8 years, but the second owner
upgraded the panel. After taking my PPL checkride in
it at night, and many other adventures including
installing a brand new Lycoming engine in 2017 I now
have 1100 hours on the airframe. It now also has
dual HDX Dynon screens as an upgrade to the original
SkyView screens it came with as well as a Garmin
I feel the airplane has allowed me to learn, and has
taken care of me during some difficult landings in
gusty crosswinds. I have been coast to coast twice
and to Canada and Mexico as well as 150 airports
with it. It could use a better paint job but I hate
to think about the down time to get that done. One
thing is that the airplane lands so well, that tire
life has been excellent. I'm only on my second set
of mains, and have only replaced the nose wheel tire
So, It's Burger Nite.........petehowell RV-9A
Andi and I both had kinda tough days at the
office.....BUT.....It's 75, sunny and no wind. I get
the text at work. Burger Nite. That means a burger
and a nice 25 min flight up To Voyager Village in
Wisco for me. For Andi, it means something entirely
Tall, ice cold, Spotted Cow!
On the way home ...Paddy RV-10 Ireland Trip
N415JS left Dublin this morning and
landed in Reykjavik this afternoon. This was a long
one. Tomorrow is Greenland and a second leg to
Iqaluit if the weather works out. I'll post pictures
when I get home, lotsa pictures.
Part 17: Love ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection America'
7A take off technique question
Q: I have been holding mild back pressure
right from the start of the take off roll so as to
unload the nose wheel before speed builds up.
I've been flying with a very knowledgeable CFI who
keeps asking me why I'm using soft field technique
for every take off. We are only using paved runways.
What are other 7A and 9A pilots using? I'm not
asking about other A models because the nose
wheel/leg problems have been mostly in these two
models. But everyone is invited to advise me.
A: You are doing it right, treat every field
as a soft field. Get the nose light asap, and hold
it off on landing.
A: In my NSHO ALL take-offs with tricycle
geared aircraft should use the "short-field"
technique of minimizing weight on the nosewheel. The
nose wheel is for taxiing, not take-offs and
Assembly Helpers ...ryanflys
Sep/Oct Issue of FAA Safety Briefing is Online
...free 36 page PDF document
Nov 2 Noon (KEET) ...1st Annual Chili Cookoff & Fly-In
...added to the VAF calendar
Sep 5, 2019. Issue #4,906
14.5 yrs ago...Scorch and Monk on my wing at sunrise.
Blown Starter Fuse
What would cause a starter fuse to blow? It is
7.5 amps in the Advanced Control Module used with a
Quick Build panel. It is the older model before they
went to logical breakers. I flew yesterday, no
problem. But today it wouldn't turn over. Turns out
the starter fuse was blown. But why? I examined it
and it looks kind of cheap and flimsy. I put in a
new one and everything is working fine. Would
excessive cranking to start a hot fuel injected
engine blow the fuse? Does 7.5 amps sound right for
the starter motor? I was thinking it would be a 10
or 20 amp fuse. What else might cause the fuse to
blow. I have only 38 hours on the airplane, RV-7A.
RIP Robert Faubion ...Ben Poff post
I don't know if anyone on here knew Robert
Faubion from Las Cruses, NM. He passed on 16 AUG
2019. He left his wife Kathy with a beautiful RV-4
which I purchased from her only a couple of weeks
ago. Robert must have really loved this plane; it's
in great shape and well maintained. Robert, wherever
you are now know this: 311SV is in good hands. I'll
carry on the torch of love for this wonderful little
Baffle kit questions ...RV-10
Is the VA-187 4" oil cooler duct flange suppose
to be in this kit? I cannot locate it among the
pieces they shipped, nor on the packing list
(possible I overlooked it on the list but not in the
box). I've ordered one form Van's today but it's
bugging me that maybe it should've been included.
When the plans say to dimple a certain rivet hole
"inboard" or "outboard," is that referring to inside
vs outside the box formed by the baffles, or to the
orientation of the dimple relative to the aircraft
centerline? There are places where a hole could be
dimpled "outboard" of the enclosure but facing the
center of the ship. The case I've already
encountered (FF2-4, step 7) seemed to make no
difference in regards to the fit of the CB 1005B oil
cooler brace, but there are other similar callouts
around cylinder 5.
A: (Kyle Boatright)
Bill, I have a narrow deck engine so I had to alter
how the cylinder 5 baffle mounts to the case, so
everything you see isn't stock. Also, I made a
cutout/bypass for the aft fins on #5 - that's not
stock either. Otherwise, I will tell you that all of
the flush rivets near the cylinders are installed
flush on the "inside" of the baffles so they have a
smooth surface against the cylinder. Here's a
picture if it helps:
Charity Cap Sighting ...scrollF4
"Off Orcas Island WA on SV Tranquility w/Capt.
Sandy and Roy Thoma (Kelli Mayeux photo)
About the caps
Where to Install F-870E-1 ...RV-8
I am working on the RV8 forward fuselage section,
DWG 63. There is this one part F-870E-1 that I can't
seem to locate where it is used. Can someone point
me to a drawing of instruction step that shows where
this part is installed?
I am including the screen shot of the part in
Thanks in advance.
I think that is the skin stiffener that goes in
the fwd fuselage down in the lower baggage area.
Dwg 67 at C7
In the construction manual it is on page 8-20
Many First Flights Reported on the Mothership
Sep 4, 2019. Issue #4,905
Matt Ziemann stopped by the hangar Tuesday on his way back to
Alabama. Matt's RV-4, any RV-4 for that matter, just makes
me stop and smile. Absolute best of the breed IMHO, and
this coming from an RV-6 builder! Matt purchased the plane
already flying, and its panel has that classic 90s-era mix of
patina and round and proof-of-enjoyment wear that I find more
and more appealing in our busy world. If the mothership
offered a modern-day CNC punched RV-4 with plans like the RV-14
has on the very same day they came out with an RV-Super Cub, I'd
be hard pressed to decide. Seventeen years in so far
flying the RV-6 and it turns out the spousal unit has flown
much less than I had hoped. Should have built a -4.
5'10" and 168 lb - I fit. Fun stuff to daydream about on
the treadmill. How simple and light could you make the
panel and airplane in 2019? A single G5 that weighs
nothing and a composite prop. How exquisitely balanced in
all axis that could be!
Back to the hypothetical thought experiment, I'd order both tail kits of
course, and sell the RV-6 when the first one flew. ;^)
more pics of Matt's RV-4, and video
Electrical stuff I don't understand ...Robert D. 6A
My airplane electrical system is based closely on
Bob Nuckoll's Z-11 plan. I have a GRT EIS 4000 that
gives me voltage. This voltage reading has always
been lower than I think it should be but I've never
had a problem starting the plane (odyssey PC-625
battery) or running the full set of avionics and
lights. My alternator is Van's 60 amp internally
The other day during a 2+ hour flight the EIS gave
me a low voltage warning a couple of times, just
briefly. So I decided to finally find out what's
going on. The first thing I did was measure the
resting battery voltage - 12.6, pretty good.
I then decided to test the 15+ year old alternator.
Took it to O'Reilly and they said everything is
Then I started measuring voltage at various points
with the engine running. The battery was 14+ volts
and so was the reading at the main buss, right at
the terminal feeding the fuse block. With no load
other than strobes, the EIS voltage matched the buss
voltage within .1 or .2 volts.
When I started adding load the EIS voltage went
steadily down to around 13.2 volts but the buss
voltage remained steady at 14+ volts.
I then measured the voltage at the EIS panel switch.
It matched the reading at the buss but also went
down when I started adding load.
So what I don't understand is why the voltage drops
so much for a relatively short run. couldn't be more
than 18-20 inches. Is it something to do with the
fuse block? How can the buss voltage remain steady
but what the EIS is seeing drop so much?
I'm really not sure where to measure next but am
sure open to suggestions. I guess I could measure
out to other switches. Or maybe just to where the
wire leaves the fuse block - just thought of that.
That would tell me if the drop was across the block.
Sorry to make this so long but I'm just trying to
2200 Hour Report and Pics ...petehowell RV-9A
Just back from Big Sky, Teddy Roosevelt NP, and
Iowa Trips. Hobbs flipped over 2,200, so I dropped
Filter and screen had some carbon chunks, and the
filter had just a tiny amount of fuzz attracted to a
Compressions were 77-78-77-77. Valves looked pretty
We are going to continue to run and watch her
carefully. Local A&P says many O-320s will go 2,600
hrs+ if they get flown.
O-320/Carb/EI/Mogas/Lots of LOP
CHT questions again ...JDA_BTR RV-14A
So 50 hours into flights now. Cyl 3 and 4 seem
good at 330 while 1 will run at 355 and 2 at 385. I
have cylinder 2 baffling as clean and sealed as I
know how to do and had it looked over by an rv10
I got the advice here to just wait it gets better.
But at 50 hours it seems it should be better
The area I'm not real sure about is where the uppper
canopy seals around the air inlets. Also not sure
about the foam at the prop governor but it seems
good with a dimple on half the width from the big
nut on top of the governor.
I suppose I will leave the top on and remove the
bottom cowling and investigate.
RV Series - RV/IAC Aerobatic Competition Standings ...ronschreck
We have a new competitor in the
Sportsman category and this is her first contest.
Welcome Hannelie Rosdal to the game. It looks like
the contest was cut short for weather as Hannelie
only got one flight in. I hope she had a good time
and will come back again. This sort of thing is
Call for 2020 Van's Calendar Photo Submissions! ...Mothership
It's that time of year, once again! Please submit your
very best photos of RVs to be considered for inclusion in
the 2020 Van's Aircraft calendar. If you already have great
shots to send, cool. If you need to do some (very safely
executed) photo sessions, well then start planning!
We typically look for extra-special photos of flying
aircraft, but send us what you think is awesome and all will
be considered. We get a lot of submissions and we're fairly
picky about the quality of the photos we choose, no doubt!
And don't send us any "faked" photos, please. Those won't
get used. (And yes, that's happened before. Seriously.)
And, we can't publish photos we don't receive. Believe it or
not, in some years we've received very few of some models.
So send yours in!
Please be sure to tell us where the photo was taken, who
took the photo, and about the plane(s)/pilot(s) in each
photo. If your airplane (the one in the submitted photo) has
been in one of our calendars before, please let us know that
as well. Also, don't wait too long! We need to gather
photos, design a calendar and get it printed all before the
holidays, and that's a lot to get accomplished!
Submit your high-resolution images to firstname.lastname@example.org
We need your submissions as soon as you can, and let's set a
deadline of Sunday, October 5th.
A panel of crack experts with strong opinions will choose
which photos get published in the calendar. We also leverage
some of the photo submissions on our web site, so there are
multiple ways for your photos to show up. By submitting your
photos, you ensure us you are the photographer and that it's
okay For Van's Aircraft to use your photo for calendar and
web purposes. If you are not the copyright owner, please
tell us who is and ask the owner for permission. We can't
publish photos without permission to do so. The photographer
will receive credit when published, of course.
Recommendations for submissions:
Photos of one or more RVs (and not other brands of airplane)
Depicts safe and legal operation, where applicable
Exciting, flashy and cool-looking are all great
Needs to be of a printable resolution - No matter how cool
the moment is, if the image quality won't meet the printing
spec, we just can't use it
Please attach your photos to the emails, rather than
embedding them in the body of the email, if at all possible.
So, get 'em submitted, and let's make a calendar!
Garmin Avionics for Experimental Aircraft Webinar -
Thursday, September 5th
We will be hosting a Garmin Avionics for
Experimental Aircraft webinar this Thursday,
September 5th, 2019. This will be a high-level
overview of G3X Touch system for those in the
decision phase of your avionics planning. We will
touch base on many of the units and interfaces that
give the system it's amazing capabilities.
Garmin Avionics for Experimental Aircraft
Thursday, September 5th, 2019
10:00am Central Time
To register, please follow
Sep 3, 2019. Issue #4,904.
Thoughts and prayers for all our family and friends affected by Dorian.
sent by user Goretzki
Lord Adhesive Tacky After 24hrs ...RV-10
I finally installed the rear
windows on the 10 yesterday. Within a few hours
everything seemed to be setting up as you would
expect, but I have about a 2" section of squeze out
that is still gooey/tacky. This is on the second
window, so I would have assumed by then the mix
through the gun would be pretty consistant. Is Lord
adehsive like proseal where even if it's not mixed
well it will eventually cure? Also, all the tubes
are fresh, stored properly and no where near
experation. Anyone else experiance this?
Connector Wrap? ...nippaero
What is the orange tape that
Aircraft Spruce uses to protect the wire bundle as
it exits the connector? I would like to get some.
Smoke in Cockpit - Can It Be From the Oil Breather?
I scared the c rap out of my
girlfriend yesterday. We were getting ready to taxi
to the runway, and the cockpit suddenly had an
amount of smoke that was pretty noticeable. I
thought it might be electrical, but wasn't sure.
This was the first time this has happened since I
bought the plane several weeks ago. I probably have
about 10 hours of flying time in it. I shut down and
put the airplane away pending investigation.
Today, I removed the cowl, and checked the engine
compartment for any sign of fire. I also thoroughly
checked under the panel for any evidence of fire.
Nothing appeared burnt or charred. I got under the
airplane, and I noticed that the exhaust pipe
directly beneath the breather was coated with a
significant amount of oil. The oil was not dripping
onto the hangar floor, but the whole pipe was wet. I
thought that the smoke probably came from oil
burning off the exhaust pipe when the pipes started
to heat up and finding it's way into the cockpit
somehow, maybe through the cabin heat or the open
Should the oil breather be depositing oil after the
engine stops running? This is the only way I can
imagine it is got there. Any other ideas or
Thanks in advance,
Part 15 ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection America'
2nd of the 12's Flew Today ...mike newall (England)
So, with a change of direction 3
years ago, the RV8 project was sold, 2 12 kits were
bought to satisfy my fly buddy's desire to build an
aeroplane. He can't get a medical but is a good
Engineer and bike racer etc.
The two were built side by side until late '18 when
we had to progress one to completion. That one flew
last fall, which left us plenty of time to finish
As always, things get in the way and time goes on,
but we got it together today and under mostly cloudy
skies, the second one flew.
Straight out of the blocks, only snag was a dodgy
connector on the oil pressure sender, quickly re
connected after flight 1.
About 2 hours done today, 3 left to do, with a 2
hour endurance flight and flight test flight to do.
We do 5 hours and 15 landings in the UK with a final
Once again, just blown away by how well it flew, all
the services worked, most of the second hour were on
the autopilot as we sipped champagne and shucked
Only snag left is a high egt on the right side which
I will take onto the specific forum.
I visited the Mothership last month and caught up
with the wonderful ladies we all deal with. A great
trip with extra benefits and trips out to the
Evergreen Museum and the wonderful WAAAM Museum at
We are fortunate to be involved with such great
aeroplanes and people. Now cracking on with a 14 and
Retirement at Christmas will help move things on
Dreed's SP Oil Cooler Install
"...take a look at the showplanes
mount. It mounts off the engine mount on the right
hand side, but you'll need to make different lines I
I have one for my 7A with a 390 that I'll be
installing as soon as I get the new engine mount
from Vans. I mocked it up on my original mount and
it fits quite well (hope it fits the new mount) and
supports a large cooler easily."
Petit Jean Update: Wait Rooms
"...Now we are switching to wait
listing for rooms at the RCC. Usually, we have
several cancellations in the last week or two and
fill 8-10 of those but that is no guarantee. From
this point on, all deposits taken using the RESERVE
MY ROOM PayPal process will be applied to the wait
list group in order received...."
It Begins ...ryanflys in Portland
Some Labor Day work today. Ran out of clecos and
had to pause to place an order.
Rudder Trailing Edge Mistake ...RV-10
"...Well, by now you probably know where this
going. After rolling it on one of my rudder skins, I
was none too pleased with the results-- sure enough
it made the trailing edge wavy as all get out. Looks
much worse than before I started. You can see it in
the pics below with the two skins laying on top of
each other. The top one was rolled, and the bottom
one has had nothing done to it.
Lesson learned, but not sure what I should do now.
Should I be concerned about this or will it
straighten itself out after riveting? Any way to fix
it at this point? I thought about clecoing the two
skins together or maybe to a solid piece of angle or
something and let it sit for a while, but not sure
if that would help or not....."
Charity Cap Sighting ...Anthony RV-6A at a Stones concert.
Sep 2, 2019. Issue #4,903. Labor Day.
Hope you had a nice Sat/Sun and that you have Labor
Day off. Our son Tate came home this weekend for a visit,
and of course Suz and I were ecstatic. Love that boy.
We went out for BBQ, took a picture of it and texted that
picture to his sister on the west coast, because that's how we
roll in this family. We rub it in.
Recovery continues from the Com Multi Add-On
checkride last Wednesday. All that foggle, 1-engine flying in the
summer heat coupled with the normal work load
of the job - the body and brain got torqued up more than
I anticipated. Thursday and Friday I felt like a hammered
turd. Slowly feeling more
normal now - better each day. This week I just have VAF on
the calendar. Normal flow. Good stuff.
The mothership is closed today, but they did post
a RV-12 360 formation
video on the 30th. Amazing imaging technology! You'll
be glad you watched it.
A lot of RV news to cover today, so let's get at it. Have a
Waypoint Arrived: Greenland Coast ...Paddy RV-10
An RV Returns to its Builder ...hydroguy2
haven't flown much in several years and all of that was very
local in Montana. But tomorrow I'm hopefully going to be
crossing the country in my new old RV.
Yes We are buying back Aurora. I will be leaving
Simpsonville SC (KLUX) to 97MT with stops at various places
in between(1680nm). Won't get an early start so won't make
it in 1 day. low tome VFR pilot.
Not sure of my timing or exact path yet. Weather and wind
will play a factor so I am looking for easy in/out quick
stops between Bowling Green, KY, St Louis and Rapid city.
Hope about some input:
1. multiple runways(cross winds are not a rusty pilots
2. courtesy car if I get stuck or need overnight
place...maybe hangar even
3. easy morning departure on saturday (no fog)
(in a reply)
It's been an emotional experience to come full circle. Never
thought we'd sell. Kris's health was first choice. She
is doing fantastic, but never really thought we'd ever have
Aurora again. Tada...Rob mentioned it for sale and still
thought no way. Now here I am going to saddle up again.
Made it home last evening. Over 1100nm just yesterday with
lots of headwind and weather detours. Scud running, squeezed
between layers, climb through holes to get on top and plenty
of heat and chop the whole day.
But Aurora performed great. It felt like I never stopped
flying her all this time.
Life is good.
[ed. Now read the next
item below. Rob made hydro's day, so if you can help
out Rob, please do! v/r,dr]
Last Hoorah! Wanted - RV-8
Well, Brian left yesterday with Aurora (RV-7) and what a
great airplane it is. In the end, the airplane ended up back
where it belonged and we made a couple of great friends in
Brian and Kris.
Now, on my 68th birthday, my son and I are looking for what
may well be my last airplane. Everyone says you should put
down your wish list so here goes:
*IO-360 or O-360 (either one will work but IO gets extra
*Glass or round gages but I really like at least a graphic
*Great construction quality (I recently went to two years of
school and got my A&P just so I could better understand and
*Prefer painted but would consider non-painted if the seller
recognizes there's going to be a price difference between
*Constant speed prop - yes, it must have a constant speed
*We probably can't afford a dolled up, maxed out 8 but if
the bones are great, we could probably make yours better.
(Ask Brian about Aurora).
*Canadian airplanes can work - we've done it before
In short, I'm getting older and after many, many years of my
son and I flying all kinds of airplanes including the A-10
Warthog (son) and the P-51 (me) the RVs are our favorite fun
machine. We have both spent a lifetime in aviation, love to
fly and whichever RV-8 we eventually acquire, we will take
incredible care of it. We are reasonable buyers that like to
make friends and develop friendships thru airplanes and
So, if you have an 8 that is, or may be in the near future,
for sale, please contact me. We've got an empty hangar that
needs to be filled.
EARLY SUMMER MORNING FLYING IN TEXAS ...chrispratt RV-8
You have to get up early in Texas if you want to find
smooth air during the summer. So we did.
My wife and I launched into a wonderfully calm bit of air
around 7:30 this morning. Even at 2,000 ft. it was a nice
ride as we headed West away from DFW. Nothing special today
other than enjoying the freedom of RV flight, some nice
scenery, and a quiet breakfast at T67 (Hicks).
Met a young man at Hicks that I hadn't seen in years since
my days based at Addison - he's grown into a fine young man,
working at one of the airframe OEM service centers in
Dallas, and enjoying an RV-6 handed down from another
friend. Here's a few pics and a video I hope you'll enjoy.
Perhaps it will serve as some inspiration for builders.
RV-14 Annapolis, MD ...ringlasergyrosandwich initial contact
Hello, I am recent addition to the Vans
Air Force community. I earned my PPL in March 2019, and have
been working on my instruments rating based out of Lee
Airport (KANP), Annapolis. For years I've been researching
options for home building and finally settled on the RV-14A.
My work space will be my detached garage, which has room for
two cars and an attached room in the back for most of the
work (double door connects rooms for easy of transport). I'm
in the process of putting together some wood workbenches and
figuring out how to lay everything out.
I recently took an EAA 2-day course on "RV Assembly" so I
finally understand the basics of riveting and the tools that
are needed to build an RV. I have almost none of the
required tools at this point. For first time builders, is it
recommended to get a comprehensive RV tool kit from one of
the manufacturers on Van's website? Also, why are there so
many tools/supplies that are "RV-14 only"? It seems a bit
strange that RV-14 has such special needs compared to the
I plan to use this thread to document my progress, share
some photos, etc. My local EAA Chapter (571) has several
home builders so I plan to discuss my progress with them as
well. Other than tools, I think my first challenge will be
figuring out how to be home to accept delivery of the
tailcone (not ordered yet). I'll hold off on ordering the
empennage kit for a little while longer while I finish the
Airborne Photo Shoot...Krea Ellis
A couple of pictures that were taken yesterday of our
My son and I were flying together and the formation work was
some of the most fun I've ever had in a small plane. My son
has never flown on the wing before, so it was great practice
Hope you enjoy.
Part 14: The Rock ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection America'
Battery box and cabin heat hole size uh-oh ...Draker
Used the wrong knock-out punch and instead of 2",
ended up with 2-3/8" lightening holes on the front
of the battery box and a 2-3/8" cabin heat hole in
the firewall before I realized my error. Rear holes
in the battery box are 2". Battery box may just have
to be scrapped but I want to save the firewall.
AEROLEDs Press Release
RV8 Smoke System Helper install -- thanks Marvin
I finally had time to finish the install of my smoke
system from Smoke System Helper.
I had run the lines and plumbing in the fuselage during the
build, but nothing FWF. Once we moved to OR and the project
was still in CO I pushed off any work that wasn't related to
getting it out of phase 1 and to OR. I have so much fun
flying I didn't want to take the plane down for any longer
than necessary. Recently I was able to find some smoke oil
locally and I took advantage of pulling the cowl for some
other work to install the injectors.
Can I sit in your rv9 / is rv9 right for us?
...TazzyTazzy Sacramento, CA initial contact
I'm a low time pilot, about 150 hours. I'm tired of the club
rentals not being available / down.
I went on a test flight a couple years ago in an rv12. It's
nice, but I don't think it's right for us.
Is there any one with an rv9a in Sacramento/bay area that I
can sit in? I'm 6'4, and concerned that I'll fit in it.
Our most common mission: 3 day weekend trips and 1 day
hamburger runs. There's just 2 of us, no kids/pets. We do
enjoy camping at various airports on occasion. Eventually,
would like to fly across the country on a 2 month
We would like to bring our foldable electric scooters to get
around. They weight about 30 pounds each, but give us about
25 miles of range.
I'm concerned that the rv9 won't be able to hold our
scooters or camping gear. Thoughts?
I really would like to build an rv-10 since it can carry
anything we could need, but $$$$.
Ground Pic Motivation ...bkervaski
Wallpaper Calendar for
...Ed Hicks photo.
Motivation Pic ...Colin P. RV-6A
I like to launch extra early, but I am an uber morning
You Know It's Hot Out When.... ...Draker
... your Boelube turns into blueberry syrup!
RV-10 wings for sale
...past the QB stage. Need some
here's how I(we) came up with the price of $6,900.
123 votes were cast in the
poll. If the vote was in the range of
5000-6000 I used 5,500 as the value for the spreadsheet. I put in the number
5,500 (51) times, then inserted 6,500 (12) times underneath,
7,500 (27) times, etc. When I had all the data entered
I averaged the numbers - $6,971.55.
I rounded down to $6,900.
Comes with a wing
Is $6,900 a fair price? Well, the mothership offers the standard, unbuilt kit for
$11,450. You can order a QB RV-10 wing for an
additional $6,325. There is a
10 week wait on RV-10 wing kits. So, if you wanted
this new we're talking somewhere in the area of $17K.
It's a fair price, even with a little bend in one of the
ailerons, a 1" tear in one rib and some rusty hardware on
the end that might need replacing.
60% off new QB.
Email me at
vansairforce 'at' gmail 'dot' com
if you're interested. I will forward those email in
the order they were received to the friend who owns them.
He'll be in touch. The wings are at 52F (DFW).
And thanks to all the folks who voted in on the poll.
Aug 30, 2019. Issue #4,902
I worked up an online photo album with my 'how I got from the
RV-6 to the Caravan to the Twin Star' story in as few keystrokes
as possible. Journal format chosen with some captions
seemed like the least amount of work - my brain is still a
little mushy from the multi checkride Wed <g>. It'll look
better on a computer than your smartphone. Link below and
in my forums autosignature. Now that the multi bullet
point is scratched through, I can look forward to an RV flight
in the near future. I need gas, so it's probably a
Bridgeport, TX run. Good RV stuff.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
The RV-6 to Caravan to Commercial Multi Add-on
...if the Caravan and the RV-6 had a kid, the
cockpit would look like a Diamond Twin Star.
Arrived in Ireland ...Paddy RV-10
Well, after a year of planning, N415JS finally
arrived in Dublin. This was a very emotional
experience for me. My Dad worked for Aer Lingus as
an engineer in the flight simulator department at
Dublin airport, so by the time I was a teenager, I
had a fair amount of unlogged sim time in the 707
and 737. I just took it for granted that I'd be an
airline pilot when I grew up. When the time came, I
aced the aptitude tests and failed the medical for
less than 20/20 vision. Correction wasn't allowed in
those days. I moved to America when I was 25 and
learned to fly about 10 years later. I passed my
checkride a month after my Dad passed away. Fast
forward to yesterday morning and I can't believe I'm
talking to Dublin approach and being cleared for an
instrument approach over the City I grew up in. And
this after flying over the Atlantic. In a plane I
built myself. This one's for you, Dad.
RV-6 rebuild project in Palm Springs CA ...jamlip
Hi all. First project thread here.
35 years old, British, living in beautiful Palm
Springs California. Learned to fly about 10 years
ago at White Waltham airfield in the UK.
I have owned an Avid Speedwing, Europa and a
Part XIII: Waiting ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection America'
RV-9A Canopy Problem ...Flyer2017
I bought our plane about 3.5 years ago. Since
then we have been to OSH 3 times and put several
hundred hours on her. After some time, I noticed a
slight light gap showing between the canopy and the
part it rests on on the left side near the panel
when flying. Over the last year, the gap seems to be
getting a little bigger. I don't think the canopy is
suddenly going to depart the plane but wanted advice
on how to close the gap, if possible. I've read many
threads about how tedious and frustrating it is to
adjust the canopy position while building and
thought some of you might have a solution. The
pictures show the canopy from each side both open
slightly and closed and locked. Also a picture of
light showing through the gap.
Aug 29, 2019. Issue #4,901
COMMERCIAL MULTI ADD-ON RATING. Plugged away at
this rating for the past couple of months when I could get a
moment and the schedule allowed. Yesterday was the oral
and checkride. Pics and words to come, but today is a
recovery day for the brain and right leg (and for looking at the
email pile) ;^). Our family's RV-6 background helped
immensely, as this Twin Star has a stick and G-1000. The
guy on the ground is putting air in the tire - I didn't run him
over. At least I don't think I did.
Skill set added to the tool bag that I can hopefully use to supplement
the family income now and then down the road.
So that was why today's edition is both late and small. I'll make
it up to you.
Aug 28, 2019. Issue #4,900
Note: The Thursday edition might be earlier than usual,
later than usual, or not there all together. Doing some
stuff Wednesday and I'm not sure of the timeline. It's
possible the Thursday edition might go live Thursday morning (I
know, right?!?!). ;^),
Fitting the Spinner ...Joewebb RV-6
"....this one of how I installed my spinner without
mounting it on the engine..."
2 Rooms Left Petit Jean ...BillSchlatterer
...as of 8pm Monday night.
Master stuck ON ...PandaCub
Had a very enjoyable flight from Colorado
to Hood River, Oregon in my RV-14A (photo 1), but upon
landing couldn't get the Master to shut off (photo 2, note
ALT FIELD light still on with Master switch down - I
promptly disconnected negative battery terminal to prevent
drainage). ..... I wonder if anyone else has had this
experience and am all ears for any tips/tricks about solving
the problem and preventing future occurrences.
Made it to Iceland ...Paddy RV-10
Hermann, I now know what you meant about Kulusuk after
flying over it today. I will try to visit there on my way
back. Nowhere like it on Earth!
Part XII: Open Doors ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection
Photos of the RV-10 Window That Left ...Kyle Boatright
Looks like Lord adhesive and a bond
failure between the adhesive and the fiberglass. The
question is what caused the bond failure? Poor preparation,
unsuitable adhesive, cyclic fatigue due to thermal
High Indicated Temps & Instrument Error ...MMiller
These comments are specific to the RV-12 Rotax/D180
There are two main components in the system, a sensor to
generate the signal and a detector to measure that signal. A
Thermistor is used for the sensor; this is a special type of
resistor whose resistance is temperature dependent. A
voltage signal is generated by placing a resistor in series
with the Thermistor and connecting the assembly across a
fixed 5 volt supply, we then measure the voltage drop across
the sensor. This generates a sensor voltage from about 1 V
at 120*F down to about 0.080V at 300*F. These voltages are
measured by the Analog/Digital Converter (A/DC) inside the
D180. These voltages are extremely low so even small losses
will result in large errors and because the sensor is
non-linear, these errors increase dramatically with
Design issues can prevent the D180's A/DC from seeing all
the voltage from temperature sensor. When this happens the
displayed temperature indicates higher then actual
temperature. With a signal loss of 100mV, the display may
indicate 234*F, well into the yellow arc, while the actual
temperature is only 204*F. To understand what's going on we
need to calculate the wiring voltage drops and load them
into a big picture. In the drawing below (Vsensor) is the
voltage provided by the sensor and (Vinput) in the voltage
as seen at the input of the D180.
Aug 27, 2019. Issue #4,899
It's all here! (Except...) ...Subwaybob
....Still need engine and Instruments. (Seats,
console etc too)
2000.0 hour milestone ...guccidude1
Last Thursday, 22 Aug, after 12 years and 4
months, I clocked 2000.0 hours on my Rv-9A, N65XX.
3000 hours next. Dan from Reno
9A Status Report ...Av8torTom
Finally getting around to cutting the panel.
Going quite well with a jig saw and circle cutter
In flight window loss
A bit of excitement yesterday as my wife & I were
returning from visiting family in Houston. We were
cruising at 6500,75%,170kts,when my wife said "my
window looks funny" no sooner than she finished
speaking her door window blew out completely!
Throttled back to about 110 kts and started
assessing the situation. Very controllable with
little yaw,I was on flight following so told them
what occurred. ATC advised nearest airport but I
told them I was considering continuing to my home
base. Amazingly there was very little wind coming
in,virtually none in front and not blowing on my
hand very hard in back. Couldn't see any damage to
horizontal stabilizer and as I said,handling
normally. We continued the remaining way home (about
an hour) and landed uneventfully.
I am not the builder but he had built a 7a before
and I believe was the first customer completed 14a
to fly (or nearly so) I have been trying to contact
him with no luck to verify if he used Weld-on or
Lord or whatever. I have the usual cracks in the
paint around the windows that you see on a lot of
the earlier builds
('07 first flight on mine) but it was not raised
from the original flush fit to the cabin top. It
came cleanly out of the joggle on all but the top
and about half the aft towards the top. But I was
able to cleanly pull some more out of the joggle
after we landed. Makes me think I should replace all
the side windows! The residue of the adhesive is
sort of tan in color if that is a clue to what type
I had always heard the cracking was cosmetic only so
I had never been concerned but this changes
everything! This window's cracking was at the
forward lower edge going up a 3rd of the way and
probably back a 3rd of the way. Obviously it pulled
off in that area first (what my wife saw for a split
second) and then when the slipstream got under it a
bit it was game over.
Bummed about the thought of replacing all side
windows but very thankful nothing was struck on the
tail and that it handled so well through it all.
Crazy prop blast thumping while taxiing though. Just
a heads up for anyone with cracks of more than an
inch or two.
Status Report ...jcarne 7A
Man it's been awhile since I posted an update.
Probably due to the back to school grind. Gotta
educate the people of tomorrow!
I have spent quite a lot of time over the last month
working on getting my SolidWorks model situated as
best I can and finishing up electrical planning. I
recently also started some wiring. I just ordered my
radio center stack so it should be getting fun real
After finalizing my design with the helpful input of
many on VAF I decided to go ahead and start cutting
the panel. It's going great so far, only a few holes
left. I am mainly doing this when I get burnt out on
something else, no rush.
Milestone: Emp Delivered ...Rick Meyer
Though I have never even flown in
an RV of any kind, my 14A empennage was delivered
this week! I am very excited, and yet there is a
part of me that wonders if this was a foolish
decision. I suppose it is somewhat of a leap of
faith, but life has taught me that I rarely regret
taking the leap, and almost always regret not taking
the leap. I believe that life should be an
adventure, so here we go!!!
Aug 26, 2019. Issue #4,898
10 RVs visit Loring AFB - 25 year of closing the base ...Dvalcik
We got permission from Loring Development
Authority to land at ME16 formerly Loring Air Force
Base (which is closed except with permission on
special occasions.) The Loring Military Heritage
Center hosted the 25-year celebration and most of
the visitors were stationed there or had family that
was. A few hundred visitors joined in to remember
this large base in Northern Maine.
We had a flight of 10 trek up from Belfast Maine,
mostly local, but Vlad, Brent, and Jim from NJ
Tate Says Hey ...and thanks.
He's there somewhere in the
picture below. Sunday afternoon they
walked through the Rotunda past the school crest to
symbolize the start of their college education,
that's him on the left in the tan pants and white
shirt walking down the left side at the 41 second
He'll be totally embarrassed that I posted this
clip, but many of you helped make this happen, so
he'll be OK.
He starts his first college class
Monday at 10am DFW time (Calculus).
about a dozen texts and emails from VAF friends
congratulating Tate and us on this milestone over
the weekend. Those were very much appreciated,
and we are Blessed to have such wonderful friends.
We'll keep you in the loop! v/r,
RV-10 to Ireland Update ...Paddy RV-10
The -10 is an unbelievable machine. Completed the
leg from CYEY to CYFB, 967nm in 5 1/2 hrs on 58 gal
of fuel. Good weather almost all the way and a
visual to rwy 16 to round it out. A good day...
Stranded: Problem Solved ...Richard Bibb RV-4
Problem resolved. John was very helpful with
hangar, tools, actual and moral support.
Stuck valve unstuck via rope trick. Will be teaming
the guides at a later point. For now no low power
and/ or rapid descents. CHT temps are my friend.
Kudos to the brotherhood (and sisterhood) that is
VANs little corner of the universe. Nice to know one
little post and the Calvary is on the March.
Part X: A Mansion ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection
FF 1201 cracked/Pitot tube lose
This is just a heads up guys to check for this.
My FF 1201 (plastic block holding pitot tube in
place mounted on the back of the gearbox)) was full
of cracks that look to be simple deterioration from
10 years and 1000 hours of use.
It would not hold the pitot tube in place any more.
I just machined a new one from aluminum instead of
plastic . I used the old one for a pattern and made
it exactly the same.
I think this would only apply to the older higher
time RV 12s
124bj first costumer built RV 12 to be airworthied
maiden flight 9-20-2009
Portland Indiana - Antique Engine and Tractor Show ...Steve
Portland Indiana - Antique Engine
and Tractor Show. The largest show of it's type in
the US. Maybe the link will work.
A couple of 9's in the grass. Gunther Zion had the
The little girl had caught a small toad and had to
EngineBridge Integrated into G3X
I bought the latest EngineBridge to monitor my
two PMAGs. Wired it up (power/ground, one channel
for each PMAG). In this config it was pretty easy to
use the WIFI network broadcast by the EngineBridge
to monitor and change PMAG settings.
Learned while troubleshooting intermittent right
PMAG indications to the EngineBridge that my right
PMAG has a slight tendency to fail the mag sensor
check on startup and flash yellow on its LED. Turns
out if it starts in this condition it will run just
fine, but it won't send data on its serial line
until it is powered down and restarted without the
mag sensor check failure. At least I think that's
true. If I spin the prop a little the flash yellow
LED on the PMAG doesn't come up on power-up; so I
work around it a bit. I never knew I had this going
on until I installed the EngineBridge.
Subsequently brought two analog outputs from the
EngineBridge to the GEA24. Each output is a 0-5V
signal corresponding to 18-48 degrees of PMAG
advance. I used the Pos6/7 ports on the GEA24 J243,
making sure to ground the ground pins for each port
in the process. I did this by solder shrinking a
shield ground onto the GEA24 side of the wire, and
then solder shrinking to that ground two leads for
pins at the GEA24; so I had two signal and two
ground wires to connect, with a shield ground I
screwed to the back shell. At the EngineBridge side
I only connected the two outputs to the two
conductors of the shielded cable, leaving the shield
to float on that end. I could probably have added
two wires into the shield ground solder shrink to
make the ground pins but I had already made up a
cable with the shield ground done prior to realizing
about the ground pins. The way I did it worked
better for the fittings I had on hand too.
In G3X config mode, I selected Pos6 and Pos7 as
"custom" analog inputs, and in the calibration put 0
for 18 deg and 5 for 48 deg. I have my advance
limited to less than 29.4, so I made the gage range
18-29.4 and that is the band displayed in the gage.
I used the slider in the EngineBridge app to
calibrate 0 and 5, since a 0 on the EngineBridge was
really 0.005 at the GEA24, and a 5 on the
EngineBridge was approx 4.985 at the GEA 24. But
these actual numbers for the 18 and 48 deg advance
analog voltages will vary on ground quality, length
of wire, wire quality, etc.
What I got for my work is a left and right gage that
shows the R/L PMAG Advance from 18-29.4, and it
seems to read pretty accurately. It will swing in
practice because the PMAG seems to not stay fixed on
one thing and moves between two settings a lot even
when everything in the plane and engine is very
One thing I noticed in flight with this is that when
I'm cruising at low altitude the advance might be 21
or so. Then when I pull back power to slow for
landing the advance goes up to 25 because it is
sensing the lower MP. I don't think this is
avoidable given the way it works. Not sure it is a
desirable feature or if it doesn't matter; but it is
definitely there and no way around it.
Ser 104142, RV-14A
Rocket Return to Flight
Just completed a proper test
flight on the Rocket one week shy of 3 years since
last flight. No major issues. Was most worried about
keeping new cylinders cool enough for break in
(August, So Cal desert), but it appears my cooling
mods are effective. Highest CHT I saw was a
relatively benign 377. This is after full throttle,
2600 RPM for an hour. Oil temps slowly kept creeping
on me and I was going to "knock it off" at 235, but
it topped at 229.
Still have a raw, unfinished induction scoop inlet,
but even still I was able to match my (super clean,
Reno race Rocket) chase airplanes MP (24.3). This is
already better than I saw in the pre mod
configuration, and I expect a noticable improvement
when the inlet lip is finished.
The SDS EFI was flawless. I was running the manual
mixture knob a bit richer than the base program
wanted but other than that the system was
essentially invisible to me. Throttle response on
short final was crisp and instantaneous, and idle
quality on taxi out and back was perfect. It's a
cliche, but it "runs like a new car".
Landed without incident and pulled the cowl. A few
drops of oil from a couple easy to fix spots but
overall looks clean and dry.
Good test. Hope to add a few more hours this weekend
on top of today's 1.0
WARNING! Incorrect design and/or fabrication of
aircraft and/or components may result in injury or
death. Information presented in this post is based
on my own experience - Reader has sole
responsibility for determining accuracy or
suitability for use.
Harmon Rocket II
Status Report ...David
With the roll bar in place, I
trimmed the turtledeck so they fit together. Haven't
made the fill-in pieces at the front of the roll bar
The clearance recesses weren't all that hard to
make, but they were tedious.
Nosewheel Breakout Force
I was having to progressively tighten the nose
wheel fork nut because the breakout force kept
getting lost. The inflight symptom was a lot of left
ball as the prop would push the nose fairing over
causing unwanted yaw trim.
So I removed the nut and checked the two belleville
washers; installed correctly but well greased. I
guess when I greased the nose fork zirc I put in too
much, so it ran down in the heat into the belleville
washers. Cleaned, dried, reinstalled and on test
flights since then have had no nosewheel-induced
yaw..... Will see if it stays adjusted.
Ser 104142, RV-14A
Test of clamping system ...kentlik
I had a major failure of drilling
the left skirt...sad. I won't get into it but
suffice it to say built another left skirt.
Here is a test of light clamping to get good
adhesion of the Sika.
Call for 2020 Van's Calendar Photo Submissions! ...Mothership
It's that time of year, once again! Please submit
your very best photos of RVs to be considered for
inclusion in the 2020 Van's Aircraft calendar. If
you already have great shots to send, cool. If you
need to do some (very safely executed) photo
sessions, well then start planning!
We typically look for extra-special photos of flying
aircraft, but send us what you think is awesome and
all will be considered. We get a lot of submissions
and we're fairly picky about the quality of the
photos we choose, no doubt! And don't send us any
"faked" photos, please. Those won't get used. (And
yes, that's happened before. Seriously.)
And, we can't publish photos we don't receive.
Believe it or not, in some years we've received very
few of some models. So send yours in!
Please be sure to tell us where the photo was taken,
who took the photo, and about the plane(s)/pilot(s)
in each photo. If your airplane (the one in the
submitted photo) has been in one of our calendars
before, please let us know that as well. Also, don't
wait too long! We need to gather photos, design a
calendar and get it printed all before the holidays,
and that's a lot to get accomplished!
Submit your high-resolution images to email@example.com
We need your submissions as soon as you can, and
let's set a deadline of Sunday, October 5th.
A panel of crack experts with strong opinions will
choose which photos get published in the calendar.
We also leverage some of the photo submissions on
our web site, so there are multiple ways for your
photos to show up. By submitting your photos, you
ensure us you are the photographer and that it's
okay For Van's Aircraft to use your photo for
calendar and web purposes. If you are not the
copyright owner, please tell us who is and ask the
owner for permission. We can't publish photos
without permission to do so. The photographer will
receive credit when published, of course.
Recommendations for submissions:
Photos of one or more RVs (and not other brands of
Depicts safe and legal operation, where applicable
Exciting, flashy and cool-looking are all great
Needs to be of a printable resolution - No matter
how cool the moment is, if the image quality won't
meet the printing spec, we just can't use it
Please attach your photos to the emails, rather than
embedding them in the body of the email, if at all
So, get 'em submitted, and let's make a calendar!
Peninsula Daily News
Aug 23, 2019. Issue #4,897
We dropped Tate off at SMU, and we're emotionally spent and raw.
Man that is one long, taxing drive back to a quiet home.
He starts classes Monday. Audrey flew out from the west
coast to be with us, and it helped some. What a base level
volcano in your gut. I'm thankful I don't have to go
through that on a regular basis. It really, really
On Sunday at 4:30pm (DFW time) the Rotunda Passage and Convocation
ceremony will be streamed online at
if you're bored. The students walk through the rotunda to
symbolize the start of their SMU education - they do it again in
There is a sliver of sunlight on the horizon and I'm pretty confident
that joyous times will return, but right now it's somewhat
cloudy. Tate knows how much we love him, how proud we are
of him, and how profoundly grateful we are to be in a position
to champion our children's futures. We are Blessed.
Go Mustangs! Go Tate!
As a non-builder...
I wanted to tell all who have
contributed to this thread how much I have enjoyed
reading your responses and that the encouragement
given by folks is so great...VAF truly is a
brother/sister-hood in situations like this!
It has given me a just an itty-bitty taste of the
highs and lows of building and greatly increased my
respect for those who take that path and persevere
The builder of my RV persisted (I'm sure) through
some of these same problems (or maybe invented a few
of his own!) but stuck with it and ended up with a
flying aircraft....only to permanently lose his
medical shortly after getting it out of Phase 1.
I took over with ~70 hours on the airframe and as a
small form of respect to his efforts, I've kept the
same N-number (numbers/letters meaningful to him)
and approached ownership as more of a "steward"
effort than as "owner", with the realization that
time passes and sooner than I want, it will be time
to pass this machine I love on to another...and I
want to be judged a good caretaker for my efforts.
To the moderator(s):
I would like to strongly suggest this thread be made
a sticky [ed. Done. v/r,dr]
and perhaps duplicated/moved over to the
RV Tips/Techniques Forum or something else
appropriate. There's a lot of good stuff in here
that I would bet someone would find encouraging in a
dark, painful time in the build process. No sense in
letting this disappear into the dustbin of the forum
Again...thanks to all who have contributed and to
the OP, I wish you the very best and hope you keep
Oshkosh'19 and the Cosmosphere trip report ...joe_rainbolt
Whether it be the smell of 'Jet A'
hanging in the air, the rumbling sound of big radial
engines thundering overhead, or simply the sweet
chirp that signals an aircraft has just returned to
earth, to me, these are the sounds of summer and
that means it's airshow season. It's the time when
pilots yearn to point their aircraft toward
Wisconsin and make their annual pilgrimage to
And While We Are Sharing Screw Ups.... ...Joe Rainbolt
My right elevator fell to the concrete floor
while I was painting. Here is part of what I wrote
in my blog at the time. Some of the feelings you may
"Did that just happen? I just stood there in
stunned disbelief while my brain worked feverishly
to assemble the appropriate profane response.
Fortunately, I had the forethought to stockpile a
great reserve of emergency profanity for just such
an occasion. Logistically though, it's not such an
easy thing to do. That is, to launch in an instant,
the mother of all swear storms that common sense
demands. In a second or two my paralysis fades and I
spring into verbal action. At least that is what I
thought would happen. But I find that I am unable to
form intelligible words as I attempt to unload my
entire arsenal at the same time. That ever so small
portion of the profane artistry which finally makes
it past my vocal cords intact is just one tiny,
weeny, almost imperceptible, "@$%#." All the while,
in in my mind, I keep seeing the Hindenburg going
up. Over and over. Oh, the humanity!"
Anyway, I cut off and rebuilt just the dented tip
and I haven't thought about it again in over 400
hours of flying.
Part IX: Trees to the East ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection
Placement 10 inch screens and radio/ap/audio panels RV 7
...ConnyJ35 in Sweden
Hi! I am trying to sort out placement for the
different instruments/panels for my RV-7. The idea
is two Garmin 10.6 inch EFIS, one G5, radio, a/p and
audio panels. All Garmin. Transponder will be a
remote. No steam gauges. I am leaning on having one
EFIS in front of each seat, the G5 and
radio/audio/autopilot panels in between. One option
might be to mount the G5 left of left EFIS, if there
is rom for that.
But I read in a post somewhere that it is better to
have the G3X's together if the airplane mostly is
flown from the left seat. This is most likely to be
the case, so this might be an option. But then the
radio/audio panels will be rather far away. And
where can I put the a/p panel?
The radio and a/p can as I understand it be set from
the EFIS, so this might not be an issue for the
radio op. But it seems easier to use the panel for
inputs to the a/p. I have tried to search the forum
for advise, but not with success. I will also try to
fit a quadrant between the seats, are there any
manufactures for those?
Image Test ...Plummit (one gorgeous airplane)
Petit Jean 2019 ... The Gathering on the Mountain is ON!
Aug 22, 2019. Issue #4,896
We drop off the Tater today at SMU. He and I talked again
on Wednesday about how so many people have had a hand in shaping
him into the young man that he is becoming. How he stands
on the shoulders of thousands of supportive people hoping and
praying for him to find purpose and happiness in a strained
world. How thousands of people he will never meet send
their best wishes because of this wonderful hobby. He
Tate, you are our only son, and I struggle to find the
words of pride and love and hope and gratitude and
thankfulness. I've told you every day of your life
that I love you. I'm pretty certain it stuck.
You are Tate Reeves from the Lone Star State, and the
world better brace itself.
Go get 'em son! We got your back with fists pumping in the air and
shouts of encouragement. You got this.
RV-14 Pic in Flight ...infltc2s
Engine fire on start procedure
I developed the normal and emergency checklists
for my -7A (with carbureted O-360) from others I
found online and what made sense for my airplane.
However, I'm questioning the procedure for an engine
fire on start, where checklists say to keep cranking
in an attempt to get a start and suck the flames
into the engine. All of my fuel lines are on the
firewall, with exception of one leading from a red
cube flow sensor to the carb. The carb intake is far
forward and coupled to the cowl intake with rubber
skirt, per the plans. So I'm wondering if trying to
get a start is a waste of time and I should go
directly to shutting off fuel. Unless the procedure
is for an over-priming situation where fuel runs
down inside the carb? My priming procedure is to
briefly open a solenoid valve with a momentary-on
rocker switch after turning on the fuel pump before
start. Thoughts? How likely is it for a solenoid to
Part VIII ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection America'
RV Build Lifestyle PIREP ...Bill Cloughley RV-7
After spending five years building my RV-7, I
have been flying it over 10 years now, and can say
without hesitation building the RV changed my life.
It has opened up new worlds to me, in so many ways.
Building the RV is on the short list of best things
I've ever done. Don't give up! Just take it one day
at a time. Try to do something on the project every
day, no matter how trivial. Make the time. It's just
a matter of priorities. There are days when the last
thing you want to do is work on the plane, but tell
yourself I'll just edge-smooth a little piece.
You'll get into it and five minutes will turn into
two hours. You get momentum going and then you WANT
to work on the plane every day. As you put in the
hours, you'll make less and less mistakes until it
will be rare that you make a mistake. The second set
of flaps will take a third of the time the first set
did. Don't give up!
RV-14 Panel v0.2 ...kiljoy
I replaced everything on the 'panel' and this
time I have my G5, GSU 25 and a couple other can bus
goodies hooked up. The only thing I didn't replace
was the, 'Master' switch
Washing your RV & "water" afterwards ...donaziza
I'm neither a mechanic, nor a builder, thus why I
ask this. I flew to Oshkosh this year. When I got
home, I had some kind of Oshkosh silt all over my
plane that didn't really wanna come off. You could
write your name in it. So I finally got around to
washing it with soap & water. Used one of those
water wong thingies with a brush on the end, and
attached to a hose. After I got done, now you start
to think about places where maybe the water went,
but you don't want it to stay there. SO------I fired
it up, and taxied around a bit, dragging the brakes
a bit to get water off them, and the prop doing as
much as "it" could do. Short of flying it, what else
can a guy do? Or am I worried pretty much for
Oh---and even tho my forward baggage compartment
seemed perfectly dry, apparently water got in there,
because my log books were all wet. And the were even
in a zipped up bag.
Any reason not to do it this way? (Pitot connections)...Reflex
I've noticed that most builders are flaring the
ends of the pitot/AOS assembly. I'm wondering if a
push to connect is acceptable? I'm using a Garmin
GAP-26 heated pitot. According to the installation
manual, section 5.3, revision AJ, the minimum length
for the tubes on the heated pitot is 8" to protect
the non-metallic tubing from excessive heat.
If the tubing is greater than 8", do you see any
reason not to use the fittings depicted below?
Milestone: Duel P-mag Install ...bkervaski
Okay, good to go on the install! Ready to fire it
Everything passed the "prop pull-through" test
outlined in the instructions.
Question: When I un-ground the p-lead (turn my key
switch to the 1, 2, or both) the led lights on the
P-Mags turn off. Doesn't seem to affect the spark.
Is this normal?
Got a bit hot today, test run in the morning!
Aug 21, 2019. Issue #4,895
We drop off our son Tate at college (SMU) on Thursday, so today is our
last day having a child live at home. We become empty
nesters starting Thursday afternoon, and I'm all over the place
emotionally. Life goes on I guess. Mostly I just
want the dropoff to be over. Thank God he's only 40 minutes away -
he knows he can call us for a lunch or dinner any time, just
like his older sister did. If that call comes an hour
before the next day's VAF edition is scheduled to be pushed out,
you'll understand VAF will just have to wait.
This went way too fast, and it really sucks. I'm excited for our
son, but it feels like I've lost an arm. And he knows how
much we love him. If I keep typing I'm gonna cry, so I'll
Grass Strip Discovery ...Vlad RV-9A
Geneseo NY D52
Discovered this gem yesterday. 4,500' of manicured
to Triple Tree standards grass.
PIREP Phase 1: John Keen RV-7 (Australia)
...She's powered by an 0-360 A1AD, has fixed
pitch Sensenich prop, basic classic steam gauge
panel (I love vintage aircraft!) with a GTR200 comm
and GTX330ES transponder. A couple of minor mods in
the form of a centre console with the engine
controls plus fuel selector and gauges; and I've
omitted the fibreglass lip that usually goes over
the windscreen to overlap the edge of the canopy.
Instead there's a bulb seal to keep the drafts out.
Nigel reports that she flies straight and true,
temps & pressures where they should be. Baffles are
stock Van's with all the gaps carefully sealed and
the washer trick employed on #3 - CHTs maxed at 400
in the climb settling to 350 in cruise, and that's
on overhauled cylinders and pistons, so very pleased
with that result. Possibly a bit under-propped with
the standard pitch so may look at a cruise prop at
some stage once I have more data.
Part VII: Works of Fire ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection
DID YOU KNOW having a builder policy doesn't guarantee full flight
coverage later on?
...VAF advertiser (Gallagher)
You've spent the past several years building your
aircraft and now you're finally done.
Congratulations!! Now, don't let a surprise
insurance requirement get in the path of you flying.
One thing to keep in mind as you are building your
RV or any other type of experimental aircraft, is
that there are a limited number of companies that
will quote an aircraft during the flyoff period. Of
those companies, they all want you to have some time
under your belt. Policies are rated off of the
pilots total time and hours in the specific make and
model. Having a low time pilot on a brand new
aircraft is going to make for a difficult quoting
process. We're not saying it can't be done, but it
does limit our options. If you can't get some time
in the same model you are building, getting time in
a similar model may help. Keep in mind, insurance
companies do not see tailwheel time and tricycle
gear time the same. This means if you have a
tricycle gear Vans model, build up some hours in
another tricycle gear model. The same goes for
tailwheel models. We hear people tell us a lot that
tailwheel aircraft are more difficult to manage so
their hours should count towards their tricycle gear
time; however, the insurance companies don't see it
the same way. If you're not sure what to do, your
broker can always get a quote for flying coverage so
you have an idea of what the insurance companies are
going to require for transition training. Always
remember that is just an estimate because insurance
changes all the time and quotes are only valid for
about 60 to 90 days.
Leah Ringeisen, Shanna Linton, Katie Escalante & Kim
Garmin RV Demonstrator's Updated Panel
...requested by Michael Burbidge
Here is a link to a photo of the RV-7A panel with a
GMC 507, GPS 175, and GMA 245 in the center stack.
Interference between prop governor oil line and PlanePower AL12
...'BillL' PIREP answering a post
I found the same issue.
I bent the line a little closer to the case (block
of wood and a hammer YMMV) and the result was a
small gap (1mm) between the alternator-line-case. 40
hrs with regular inspections indicate that it is
working. Thankfully, the parts don't move that much.
The 15358 belt is a good idea too.
Edit 8-15-18 - I looked at mine again. Note (below)
the adjustment slot has the bolt near the end. I
used the standard belt, as the adjustment range
might not accommodate much extra length.
Let us know how yours works out.
G3X Academy: CAN Bus Fundamentals Webinar - Friday, August 23rd
The Aviation Training Team at Garmin has developed a
series of modules dedicated to better understanding
the installation fundamentals of the G3X Touch
system in our aircraft. These have been popular
presentations at EAA Airventure and we'd like to
extend the training opportunity to those interested
in learning more about the system architecture.
The CAN Bus data network (what it is and how it
works), also known as the 'backbone' of the system,
is one of the most frequent support questions we
receive. We would like to invite those interested to
the below webinar this Friday, August 23rd:
G3X Academy: CAN Bus Fundamentals Webinar
Date: Friday, August 23rd
Time: 3:00 PM CST
The webinar will be recorded and a link sent to
those unable to attend the live presentation
(registration still required).
Brad + Katie
7A 'Rebirthing' Status Report ...kentlik 7A
Starting on the right side. Partway there, forgot
how long it takes to get it right. I set up a
"block" of sorts out of tape to butt the skirts up
to help keep them uniform.
Earl and Hal's RV-14
I ordered an RV-14 kit in Oshkosh, and I while
nervously await the arrival, I began asking myself
just how the heck I was going to build this thing,
given my fairly limited experience building
anything. I am a retired engineer, so bookwork wise,
I get it, but putting it into practice, I doubted
By a stroke of luck, I was introduced to a retired
corporate jet director of maintenance who just
purchased a home in my community. Well, Hal has
always wanted to build an airplane, but couldn't
outlay the money. Me? I can outlay the money but I
am not sure I can build it. Haha. So we have formed
a strategic partnership, in exchange for 25% equity
in the kit, Hal will guide me through the build,
using his 40+ years of airplane maintenance
Our first kit should be shipping any day now, and we
hope to have the airplane flying by Sept 1 2021. We
each can devote at least 40 hours per week into
this, so if we can stay on track and I don't louse
up the project too badly, with a bit of luck in two
years, I'll be posting our first flight info!
Stay tuned to follow along a hopeless builders
adventure towards having something that flies within
about two years! Oh, and wish us luck.
Should I Drill The Reference Engine Bracket Holes? ...PhatRV -8
Each of the engine mount brackets
has a large #12 hole that corresponds to the hole on
the stainless steel firewall. Should I drill these
out while assemble the firewall or leave them alone
until I install the engine mount. Van's manual
doesn't mention anything about these holes in the
instructions at this stage of the build.
Here is a picture of the hole
So who else has seen broken sniffle line bracket ...mturnerb -14
I did some FWF inspection today at
46 hours or so, cowling off. Found that the sniffle
line bracket was broken, so I replaced it by
fabricating a similar piece from stainless steel.
I've seen a builders blog where the theory was the
exhaust heat weakens the aluminum bracket.
Aug 20, 2019. Issue #4,894
Monday early it worked out that I got off the surface for .3hr in
the RV (first RV flight in 8 days). Flew over to do
an practice landing at a friend's grass strip (and rock the
wings to say good morning), then Propwash for a TnG to see if
another friend was home, and finally Alliance for the ILS 16L
practice on the way back. Next flight needs to be a gas
run to Bridgeport or Sherman.
Takeoff 0800 and nibbling at 90F by the time I got back down.
Didn't see another airplane. It did feel good to fly the
RV - always does.
RV-12iS IFR Avionics Package Available for Orders ...mothership
Van's has published the RV-12iS IFR avionics
package order form and we are now accepting orders.
This package is available for the RV-12iS only when
equipped with the Rotax 912 iS engine, due to
electrical capacity requirements.
The package includes:
- Two Garmin G3X Touch EFIS screens
- GTN 650 IFR GPS/Nav/Com radio
- ADS-B Out
- Autopilot servos for pitch/roll
- GMC 307 autopilot control module
- All of the parts/hardware/wiring required to
install the system
- ADS-B In and Sirius XM receivers
- Finished, powder coated panels with silk-screened
- Subtraction of the second EFIS screen.
About to Throw in the Towel ...asw20c -14
Alert!!!! Chime in and help!!!! dr]
I have been working on my slow-build
wings for almost 2 1/2 years. About 8 months of that
time I was making little to no progress because of
two back to back problems I encountered (with my
pitot system and bottom skins), but eventually I
overcame both and had been very happy with the
quality of my build. Today I finished building my
flaps after about 2 months of effort (they're
beautiful, by the way) only to realize that they are
both junk. I misinterpreted the plans and ended up
getting the rod-end subassemblies mirrored and
installed backwards. In other words, the left
subassembly was assembled in the right flap, and the
right in the left flap. They fit fine. And it is
completely irrecoverable. It kept nagging at me that
the location of the nutplate didn't seem right, but
I was sure I had followed the plans correctly.
There is no way to fix this problem except to buy
all new parts and hardware and start over. I'm so
frustrated and angry about losing this much time on
the project after having just gotten past the
difficulty of the bottom skins that I'm tempted to
walk away from the project. It seems I'm doomed to
keep working on these **** wings in perpetuity. It's
that or admit defeat and lose all the time and
expense of this project so far.
Empennage Complete Except for Tips
Drip-less RV-10 IO-540 oil change - Best thing since sliced
Alright so (5) oil changes down
the road I finally found a way to change the oil
without spilling it everywhere and spending an hour
cleaning it off the engine, hoses, cowl, nosegear
fairing, wheel pant, etc. You will need some safety
wire, gallon ziploc, tape, and a diaper.
Full instructions and pictures on my build log.
Delivery is scheduled
My Tuesday night plan is now an unboxing...
Part VI: Under the Sun ...Scott Chastain's
The mystery of #4...
I have a bit of a mystery and would like to appeal
to the brain-trust for assistance.
The configuration: RV-7, Lycoming YIO-360-A1B6,
Hartzell F7497 CS Prop, Dual Lightspeed Plasma III -
timed to 20*, Denso IK27 plugs, Avstar AVX-5VA1 fuel
injection servo, Standard pistons (8.7:1 CR), Custom
Plenum, SW 8406R oil cooler mounted on firewall fed
by 3" SCEET duct from above #4 cylinder, Temperature
risers are installed in front of #1 and #2 cylinders
- #1 is 1/4" lower than "stock", #2 is 3/4" lower
than "stock", #2 cylinder is the hottest - followed
by #3, #1 and ultimately #4.
The symptom: during climb out, and in all subsequent
phases of operation at or above 80 Kias, the #4
cylinder will run ~30* colder than the other 3
cylinders (#4 max is 336*F, others max ~365*F).
Additional data: all 4 cylinders "peak" within .1GPH
(e.g. 9.3GPH at 6500msl), and all EGTs are within
75*F of each other for all phases of flight. Probes
have been swapped, tested, and appear correct.
My objective is to get #4 up to the same temps as
the rest. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Looking More Like an Airplane ...dbaflyer 9A
Lots of things getting done since
the plane was moved to the airport last March,
including those dreaded spar bolts which are
surprisingly easy to get in, but much harder to
torque down (the bottom ones). Pulled the plane out
today to test the nav antenna that is in the right
wing. The Eastern Iowa Airport has VOR/DME 3 miles
west of the airport and I was able to tune in and
hear the morse code. Many more things to do but
still hoping to fly in a couple months.
Lower Cowl Louvers
Don't have any finished images
with me right now. I you have already painted there
are much better after market options. The kit from
fans is only $8. Just the two aluminum vents and
RV-8 N1986 Status Report ...Roarks in Arizona
So I haven't done much since Phoenix went 100F+.
BUT! This was my RV8 mini project for this weekend. AC in the garage.
Aug 19, 2019. Issue #4,893
Van's Homecoming coupled with the EAA292 Fly-in and STOL expo
contest was this past weekend. If I find some pics/vids
online I'll let you know. Next, I picked a price for those
RV-10 wings I'm selling for a friend (below).
Hope you had a nice RV-filled weekend.
VH-BBU first flight ...goose (video)
Hi everyone, my RV-7 VH-BBU had her maiden flight from
Canungra International Airport, Queensland, Australia
yesterday in the capable hands of the legendary Nigel Arnot.
This has project has come to completion with the help of
many generous people in many different ways including of
course all of you who contribute your knowledge so
generously to these forums; and I thank all of them for this
wonderful little plane Now I'm looking forward to putting
many enjoyable hours on her!
CHT Update ...scottmillhouse 7A
The VAF brain trust did it again. Left mag about 29
degrees with right at 25. Changed to 24. Hopefully that is
the issue. I don't know if Lycoming set it wrong or if it
drifted in last 10 hours. Next flight will see if it is
Part V ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection America'
Charts / Maps
I have been a pilot for more than 37-years. Commercial /
Instrument rated with more than 3,000 hours in RVs and have
actual RV IFR solo flight time. Have learned to fly before
EFB (Electronic Flight Bag) using paper. Have been using an
EFB for 9-years.
Those that have Glass Panels, how important are the Charts /
Maps that that are part of the system? Do you use your
Tablet (ForeFlight, Garmin Pilot, Wing-X, FlyQ, etc.) to
plan a flight then use the EFIS MFD to show your charts,
plates, and maps in the cockpit or do you use your Tablet?
I know Seattle Avionics has a $99/year service that provides
georeferenced charts for Dynon. Garmin G3X also has
FliteCharts for an unknown fee.
I am interested in how the MFD is actually used in your RV.
Is the optional Map/Charts/Plates actually used in flight
instead of your Tablet EFB?
My RV has a non-precision approach certified GPS navigator
with an old 6-pack arrangement that has been updated with
two G5s. I use the EFB to plan my flight, I program the
panel mounted navigator for my direct to navigation waypoint
and follow along on my Tablet EFB.
When I get a "Glass Panel", what will be the function of my
Will my Tablet EFB be a backup and the MFD be used as my
map/chart/plate to follow flight progress?
Looking to get an education on Glass Panels. I have flown an
RV with a glass panel and I only used it as I would a
standard mechanical 6-pack. I know more features are in the
different glass panels but trying to figure out if I will
use them or if I should learn to use them.
Gary A. Sobek
NC25 RV-6 Flying
Arlington Fly In 2019 Highlights ...video
In case anyone was wondering, the Arlington Fly In does
continue, but it does seem to get smaller every year. They
changed things up this year by moving it from July, just
before Oshkosh, to the middle of August.
There was pretty light airplane attendance, though there
were easily more RVs than any other single type. Part of
that may have been due to the cloudy weather which probably
prevented visitors from too far away. Today the ceiling was
mostly about 3,100 overcast to broken until mid afternoon,
with about a 1,000 feet lower on Friday. At least it wasn't
hot, about 68 degrees on Friday and 75 on Saturday. It is at
least a slight exaggeration to say that there were more
campers than airplanes.
Noticeably absent this year was the guy with a New Standard
bi-plane selling rides and an R-44 helicopter selling rides.
New this year was a model airplane flying event featuring
really big models an jets. They must have been really big
because we could see them from my hangar probably close to a
There weren't many highlights, but here are my favorites.
RV-4 Cowl Cracks
I have owned RV-4 N9547H (serial # 1654) for about 3
years. I did not build it but I love it. It has a carbureted
O-320 engine. The upper engine cowl is repeatedly cracking
(down to white fiber glass showing) at the front edge in the
corner where the intake cheek turns up around the spinner
hump. I have had it repaired 3 times over the past 3 years
but each time the cracks come back quicker and worse than
before. I am loathe to just keep spending money and
down-time just repeating the previous repairs without
getting to the root cause, (which might be as simple as:
cowl old!) . The engine runs nice and smooth and I had a new
Lonnie Prince fixed pitch prop installed (and dynamically
balanced) 2 years ago. So I cant detect any unusual
Would anyone say that the upper cowl is just plain worn out
and needs replacing? The plane was completed in 2007. If so,
do I have to replace the upper and lower cowls at the same
time to ensure that they go together well? The bottom is in
great shape. The existing upper cowl seems to fit very well
at the moment: not too tight or too loose when you put it in
place. I have shown the problem to Vic Syracuse at Falcon
Field outside Atlanta and he could not see any reason to
cause these cracks.
Any other theories on why this might be happening would be
welcome. Also, how much fitting skill and time would be
needed to install the upper cowl for a complete novice? Is
That's a lot of questions but as you can tell, I am a little
worried about continuing to fly with this deteriorating
Aug 16, 2019. Issue #4,892
Some mothership news to report: 1) the 2019 Van's Homecoming and EAA 292
Fly-in Weekend is this weekend in Independence, Oregon (more
info) and 2) they are looking to hire a builder tech support
info). Get paid to talk about RVs all day!
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
RV-8 Status Report ...goatflieg
The latest Blogspot blog entry is up; see link
below. It seems long, but it's mostly pictures. Many
many pictures. Speaking of which, here's the teaser
RV7A IO360, detonation? ...witek
Have you had similar case?
This happened while tried to start a hot engine on
the ground (after the first flight).
Come join Lightning Formation Airshows this weekend
at the Camarillo, CA Airshow
we will be performing at the Camarillo, CA airshow
this weekend. Please come by and say hello. Bring
the kids, bring your significant other if you want
us to convince them they NEED an RV or just stop by.
See you there.
Hangar With A View - Neck Knobil
All depends on what you like lookin at I guess...
Hat Sighting ...Paddy
Anyone guess where this is?
What Are These RV-10 QB Wings Worth?
...help me decide what to ask for them (a poll)
This is a little different for the site. A friend
from dry New Mexico delivered his ten year old (I think) standard kit built
RV-10 wings that are a little past the QB stage with these
instructions, "Get what you can get for them." I
bought a car from the guy years ago (he gave me a good
deal), so I'm returning the favor.
See the pictures
There is a dent in one of the ailerons. There is
some rust on some of the steel parts. One of the end
ribs has a tear in it and will need to be patched. I
don't know if the tanks leak or not. They were stored
in New Mexico and there is some sand in the nooks and
crannies. Comes with the wing stand.
mothership offers the standard kit for
$11,450. You can order a QB RV-10 wing for an
additional $6,325. There is a
10 week wait on RV-10 wing kits. So, if you wanted
this new we're talking somewhere in the area of $17K.
What's it worth? I dunno.
Please vote what you think in the poll and what I'll
probably do is look at the bell curve distribution in a week
or so, then offer them for a price slightly left
(cheaper) of the average.
Yours in thrift and
Aug 15, 2019. Issue #4,891
RV-7 Initial Steps ...ryanflys
Priming is all done. Started following the step by step
Milestone: 1st flight today in my RV3B ...redhawk
Having owned a -8 and a -4, there's one word to describe
how the -3 flies: SNAPPY !
It's a blast to fly !
RV Series - RV/IAC Aerobatic Competition Standings
We have yet another RV pilot trying on IAC competition
for size. Luke Schuitema took his RV-4 to a second place
finish in Primary at the Spencer, Iowa contest recently.
Nice work Luke! We hope you come back for more.
The competition season is far from over with 13 more
contests on the 2019 calendar. Remember, you must compete in
two contests to qualify for placement in the competition
standings. I see lots of pilots who need to get back into
(My apologies for the delay in posting this. I took the long
way back to NC after AirVenture, visiting Canada to escape
the heat for awhile.)
Volume of rain an O-320 RV can fly through?
On one of my flights back from OSH I flew through a brief
What is the volume of rain when you would get concerned?
Should I close the carb heat flapper valve?
I assume at some point water will go through the engine?
Overall I remain hesitant to fly through anything but a
light shower when absolutely necessary and with ADSB showing
the local severity on the screen.
RV-6A Brake Fire - What is salvageable?
The girlfriend's RV-6A continues to give me headaches as I
slowly learn more about this plane. I recently just finished
doing her annual following a new paint job. New brake
rotors, pads, and O-rings. I also had to remove the piston
from the pedal do get the valve open to allow the fluid to
come up through the bottom. I finally finished this (along
with a lot of other things) so her plane would be all good
to go before I left for a couple months. Did a few flights
uneventfully. Then on the last flight before I left,
naturally, as we were pulling off the runway she said the
right brake felt weird. Sure enough it seemed locked up. I
tried pumping the pedal to see if I could free it, which it
did but then subsequently seemed to start dragging again.
Shortly after that smoke was coming up and we jumped out.
Sure enough the right brake had caught fire. Fire was
going inside the wheel pant for about a minute before we
could get an extinguisher on it. Newly painted pant - toast.
Smoke had traveled up the leg fairing which blackened the
leg and wing root with soot but I believe (hope) that it's
limited to just that vice any real heat damage to the leg
itself or wing root.
Brake line at the brake assembly burned through, and it
looks like some burning of the fiberglass/carbon fiber
around the wheel leg. See pics.
I am looking to get some guidance and opinions on what is
salvageable from this fire and what to look for to make that
determination. Also any ideas what caused the locking? When
I put the pistons back on, I tightened them....can this
What kind of temps can these wheel and brake parts
withstand? Also, I am unfamiliar with the construction of
the leg. Is this carbon fiber surrounding the metal leg?
What is that for? Is the burn damage at the base ok? Also,
unrelated, it looks like there is a crack at the top (red
arrow in pic) that we noticed in the carbon fiber material.
Is this an issue?
Finally, wheel pants, what's the process to make new ones
after you order them from Vans? A royal pain or pretty easy?
7A Skirt Status Report ...kentlik
Here is a skirt that fits and has a minimal flare at the
lower rear area, <.125. Now comes the hard part...gluing
Miss Montana DC-3, RV Related ...Bryan Douglass RV-10
This topic is not obviously RV related, but more than you
might think. Some of you know that I've been involved with
the Miss Montana to Normandy project for the last year or
more. We successfully returned a 1944 DC-3/C-47 to
airworthiness - it had been sitting for 18 years - and flew
her to England, Normandy and Germany for the 75th
anniversary of DDay and the 70th anniversary of the Berlin
Airlift. And back again over some pretty remote,
inhospitable country in the north Atlantic. We've been in
AOPA (see latest edition) and EAA magazines, on CBS Sunday
Morning, the NY Times, Washington Post and every newspaper
in Montana and many beyond. We flew the plane across the
channel on June 5 and dropped paratroopers in original WWII
garb and round chutes over Normandy, then flew in a
presidential fly by at Omaha Beach Cemetery on June 6.
At first glance a DC-3 is nothing like an RV, but au
contraire, look deeper. The DC-3 is all aluminum riveted
monocoque construction and the power-to-weight ratio is
almost precisely that of my RV-10. What struck me as I
worked on the plane for much of a year was how many of my
skills, tools, and resources were useful on the project. I
was able to do a fair bit of metal work to patch holes,
install antennas with doublers, and so forth. I was able to
wire the largely reinvented instrument panel and associated
antennae, headsets, ADAHRS, etc. The radial engines were a
new beast but they still suck, squeeze, bang and blow like
my Lycoming. In short, because I built an RV I was actually
fairly useful on an incredible renovation (and operation) of
an historic airplane, and got to fly right seat on a good
portion of the entire trip.
I was even able to convince the chief mechanic (with no
experimental experience) to install two Dynon D3s as backup
attitude indicators instead of reinstalling the entire
vacuum system just for two attitude indicators. Dynon
graciously donated two of them to our project! SHAMELESS
In addition, I contacted Aeroleds and they gave us a 50%
discount on the huge 8 inch LED landing lights that
dramatically decrease load and increase life (as well as
visibility).SHAMELESS PLUG #2
Because of the trip I was motivated to add commercial and
multi-engine ratings, a tailwheel endorsement, and a DC3 SIC
type rating in less than a year. Not much else would have
prompted me to work so hard.
It keeps occurring to me that, when I started flying 11
years ago and then finished my RV-10 8 years ago I wouldn't
have in my wildest dreams ever imagined that I would be able
to participate in something like this. It never ceases to
amaze me how this community as enriched our lives.
Keep driving those rivets.
Seen From the Air in the RV (Quirky) ...Vlad
Condition Inspection and Maintenance by Randy Richmond ...TJ
I just got my RV-10 back from Randy 'Monk' Richmond
(located at my home field 52F) after an in-depth Condition
Inspection/Maintenance. My RV-10 was built in 2006 and I
purchased it in August 2011 so it was time to look at engine
mounts, fuel lines, oil lines, etc.
The list of things done over and above the annual Condition
- Install new main tires and tubes. The Michelin Condor
tires lasted 8 years and over 600 landings. I replaced them
with Wilkerson retreads with Dresser Classic tubes (Wow!
Tubes and tires have gone up a lot!!). Hope they last as
- The engine mounts were replaced with Barry Engine Mounts
(Wow again! Almost $600 now!)
- The engine oil return lines were braded stainless flex
hose and had become very hard from the heat and age and we
were not sure if the rubber inside had swollen and reduced
the diameter. All return lines were replaced with superior
- All the FWF fuel and oil hoses were replaced with custom
made ones. The original hoses had some strange routings and
fittings. Randy did a great job cleaning that up and
simplifying the routing. It looks a lot better!
- The carb was sent out to be rebuilt by Aircraft Carburetor
and Injection Services of Texas. They found a number of
things wrong with the carb and did a fantastic job
- The intake hoses and gaskets were also changed out.
- The original flap motor had stuck a couple of times so was
replaced with the Usher Precision replacement. The original
lasted over 631 hours - much longer than what most people
got out of the Vans motor.
- And finally the trim switch on my Tosten stick failed so I
sent it back to be rebuilt.
- Randy also found some other minor issues and fixed them
including some nuisance oil seepage/leaks.
Thanks again to Randy for doing a great job on replacing the
lines, motor mounts, etc. There is a reason he has such a
So how does it all work? In a word - Great! The engine is
much smoother and the Carb is soooo much better than before.
It is much smoother at idle and seems to be more precise
leaning. It seems it is doing a much better job atomizing
the fuel and the spread in CHT and EGT has been reduced. I
have only flown locally at lower altitudes with it but a
data point is at 2,000 ft, 79F OAT, 2160 rpm and 21 in, 140
KIAS burning 9gph. In the past I would normally see 10+gph
in the same conditions. I also love how much smoother the
engine is due to the new motor mounts!
Also the new tires have eliminated a minor shimmy when
passing through 20-25 knots ground speed when rolling out
It is almost like having a new airplane again. Thanks again
Part 4: Talitha Koum! ...Scott Chastain's 'Resurrection America'
Aug 14, 2019. Issue #4,890
I'm working a side job Wednesday to help with fam cashflow, so there
might not be a
Thursday edition here. If that's the case I'll push out a
double-dose Friday serving to make it up to ya. Apologies
in advance (maybe).
Jon Thocker Tribute ...Scott Hersha
A group of us at KHAO purchased a memorial brick
for Jon to go under the Brown Arch at Oshkosh. Last
month at Airventure, we dedicated that brick and
gave Jon a Gone West toast. A large group of Jon's
close friends, fellow airshow pilots, and RV and
Redline colleagues participated in the toast. Ken
made the toast in Jon's memory.
It's the Journey ...KleensRV6
As I had tried to explain previously our trip to
OSH this year had taken us not in the most direct
route from KGIF to KSMB. We stayed in Plymouth
because, it's the journey.
Houston area monthly lunch (August 2019)
The third weekend is upon us again, and Weiser is
still open, so it's time to pay another visit to
Carl's. 11:30 this Saturday (17th), Carl's BBQ at
EYQ. See you all there!
As a bonus, anyone who shows up this weekend can
have the rare joy of hearing me talk about building
tasks in the present tense...
Ireland Trip ...Paddy RV-10
After a year's delay due to work/life
commitments, my planned RV-10 trip to Ireland is
back on. Planned departure from home base (LL10) is
Sat Aug 24th.
Hidden hinge oil door ...Bill Boyd
Time for a project update. Here's my oil door
going together, using ideas shamelessly gleaned
right here in VAF.
Part III: Michael (Resurrection America) ...Scott Chastain
Mr. X ...NYC
your device /
Aug 13, 2019. Issue #4,889
Well, I clicked SUBMIT on the eCheck for the Tater's first
semester at SMU Monday afternoon, and it was more than a new
Lycoming IO-390. And, I get to buy the equivalent of (7)
more of these over the next four years, so super yikes.
I'll go ahead and get the answer out on that 'are you going to
OSH' question for the next four years. Not a snowball's
Tate is currently interning in
same lab his sister worked in during her time there (you'll
see her name under 'Members' in the alumni section and in the
2016 pics). We drop him off on the 22nd with our hopes,
dreams and prayers, just like we did with his sister. He's
a good egg and I'm sure he'll try his hardest. Tate, we
got your back! Go get 'em!
Please excuse me if I come off as a little screwy - I think I might need
a drink ;^).
Finally...first flight ...Tom023 (FIVE
After 5.5 years of slow build kits serial #140083
flew today. I have to thank John B., another RV
owner for assuming the PIC duties but after six
years of building and not flying it seemed the
prudent approach...thanks John. Only issue was a
self induced slightly high idle, other than that,
the plane, Lycoming Thunderbolt and G3X all
performed flawlessly for the first flight.
The Final Panel Layout (he thinks) ...jcarne
Thanks for the comments so far guys. Many good
ideas represented in this thread. I hope someone in
the future also finds it as useful as I did.
Well here is where I am at now. I think I will go
with one screen and an iPad and see how I like it.
If I feel the need to add the second screen I have
it planned so that the space is still there. I will
probably go ahead and install any wiring needed
ahead of time too so when I eventually sell the
plane the buyer has the option to easily add it if
I also caught the fact that the panel Van's has in
their CAD model is NOT the same dimension as in real
life; it doesn't have the bottom bend in it which
takes about an inch off. Good thing I caught that
because it definitely moved some things around.
-I'm going to go with the Garmin COM as I simply
couldn't get a layout I liked with the Dynon while
ALSO not getting interference with the ribs.
-I decided on an Avidyne IFD-440 after reviewing
their website and a few different comparisons to the
Garmin 650. The more I read, it became easy to make
-Many people might say move the HDX or the Avidyne
up but I have the ribs in the CAD model as well and
they are both as high as they can go without
interfering with the ribs. Unfortunately, this is
ultimately why I couldn't go with the IFD-540 but
that's okay, I'll save 3k instead.
-I redid the switch labeling to something I'm more
-I swapped the a/p and knob module as it makes more
sense to have the knob module closer to you since
you use it more
-The audio panel is now down low
Anyways let me know what you all think but I'm
pretty happy with it now.
Resurrection America: Part 2 (The Sending) ...Scott Chastain
....."And the America trip," said the son. "You
know I am flying through the country again this
year?" It took the mother a little by surprise.
"But where will you go?" she asked with
disappointment. She did not expect it. The question
was tinged with the same worry she expressed twice
before in 2016 and 2017 when the son was sent
airborne across America for month-long stretches.
"Wherever I am sent," he said. "I have no plan, but
I am being called again to go." ....
Reversing stiffener orientation on tanks ...Girraf -7
I've looked at a lot of build logs and everyone
seems to have installed the stiffeners according the
drawings (with the vertical member toward the aft
side). I match drilled mine to the skins in the
reverse orientation after seeing this note and
thinking it would be easier to backrivet them this
way. Anyone else actually do this?
Recommended book - Engine Out Survival Tactics
I just finished a book by Nate Jaros titled,
"Engine Out Survival Tactics". I'd recommend it to
any RV aviator who is looking to sharpen up. It's
somewhat of an easy read (I finished in a few days
while taking notes and looking up relevant
information that applies to my RV-8 during the read)
It's a good primer for learning or potentially
improving on multiple tactics required to
effectively manage energy and make decisions to
position our aircraft for a successful engine out
landing. His approach uses informed decision making,
judgment and some simple pilot math. We've all
learned the basics and some have gone beyond that
basic level. This book helps bridge that gap in a
practical way (straight to a field engine outs,
overhead arrivals, engine out in IMC arrivals, and
more). This information is not a re-hash of the
basics from GA instructional flight publications,
nor is it exhaustive; but it is a bridge to the kind
of information that is harnessed from multiple
specialties within aviation and some practical
One thing to note is while the book is written from
the perspective of a V35 Bonanza used as a base line
aircraft, he mentions and suggests RV8 and RV-7
glide ratios and these are generic and not
necessarily completely accurate (They are good, but
can be fine tuned to your configuration and he gives
great advice on how to accurately and safety test
while practicing engine out glides). There are also,
of course, a few good threads here on VAF on "Glide
Ratios" for our aircraft. Keep in mind a lot depends
on the specific propeller system used and aircraft
layout (ie: cowl used, aerodynamic improvements, or
how effective the basic speed fairings are on each
aircraft). Our VAF member Kevin Horton maintains a
great web page resource based on his RV-8 with a lot
of actual test data from his flight test program.
Since he's a professional test pilot, there are
accurate and well presented data points to reference
and consider, while reading this book. I humbly
suggest taking notes along the way and getting to
know the numbers behind the numbers as you read. It
will be interesting at the very least and powerful
at the best when that knowledge is used properly
*if* the need ever arises.
Glide Ratio 2015 test
Glide Ratio 2009 test
Background on tests and considerations
Some background on my perspective on the book. In
2008 I was flying 747's for a living and began to
feel disconnected to the art of being a pilot.
Flying 747's was a bit more like running cruise
ships than flying. So I decided to jump into the art
of flying sailplanes. It was an outstanding activity
and made me a better pilot (and actually gave me
some real stick time for a few years while I guided
ocean liners across the globe). Flying many hours
without the aid of an engine is actually great for
the head work and gives a lot of visceral exposure
to what is really going on when flying. A powerplant
can mask these important and subtle details. Still,
even being a sailplane guy, I have to say this book
was a good read as it brought in a few "low
glide-performance piston aircraft" concepts into
While I love my synthetic vision and fancy avionics
devices to give essential SA on where to turn to
survive when the engine goes silent, the real truth
of the matter is it's not going to assist as much as
assumed, unless the aircraft is flown specifically,
correctly and efficiently - immediately after the
engine goes silent. This book helps bring those
essential aviator items into organization again.
This book may not be a "game changer" for everyone
but it was a good bang for the buck and worth the
time as a primer to activate those visceral
Aug 12, 2019. Issue #4,888
Mass, yard work,
VAF work, Live P.D. on the idiot box, more VAF work, a little
time off the surface Saturday morning (not much)...and the
weekend was over just like that. Sure hope it went slower
for you. 106*F heat index here in DFW 5pm Sunday - 112*
where my sister lives in Houston (same in Tulsa, OK).
Crazy scary hot. Sheets over the south windows and the house a/c
struggling - centered in the dog days of summer now. Ughhhhhhh.
To Plattsburgh NY to see a CTA cover-band concert ...Lycosaurus
I got hooked on a Chicago Transit
Authority cover-band called Leonid and Friends a few months
ago (check them out on YouTube). Found out they were going
to perform in northern USA so I booked us some tickets for
the Plattsburgh concert on August 1st. Got us 2nd row
tickets, right down the middle. Shirley played along :-)
[... actually she really did enjoy the concert and the two
Very impressed with Van's tonight ...iamtheari (RV-14)
I was going to wait for my friend, an
experienced A&P, to come over and help mount my engine, but
tonight after moving the oil temperature sensor to the
correct location (see other thread--and note that this post
is to brag about Van's, not about my own ongoing comedy of
errors) I decided just to see how well my engine crane would
line things up with the engine mount.
My plane is an RV-14 taildragger and it's sitting up very
high on its landing gear. I've read a lot of stories about
mounting engines on airplanes. I've never mounted an
airplane engine before and have only even watched someone do
it once, on a Mooney. I've pulled and reinstalled a Porsche
911 engine, twice because, again my ongoing comedy of errors
led to having a clutch part in backwards the first time. I
also helped my grandpa pull and reinstall a Honda Trail 70
engine when I was about 7 years old.
Most airplane engine mounting stories involve 3 or 4 people
including an A&P, some special tools including a load
leveler to match the engine angle to the airplane, the
better part of a Saturday afternoon of work, and a few cases
of good beer. I decided to take a stab at mounting it
It took just over an hour from the time I rolled the engine
crane with the engine hanging from it over to the airplane
until the time I rolled it away, sans engine.
All credit to Van's for making that possible. If anyone asks
for a recommendation for an airplane kit for a first-time
builder, the answer is an RV-14 or nothing.
Caveat: If the RV-12 is anywhere near this well put together
of a kit (and, as a 2018 One Week Wonder volunteer, my
observation is that it is), then I would recommend it for
its target audience: light sport pilots, people with a
garage or shop instead of a hangar to store it in, people
less brave about customizing their airplane, and people
whose budget comes up short of a well-equipped RV-14.
Resurrection America ...Scott Chastain and his father.
Workshop screw-up ...Tom RV-8
I had a local service shop replace my left
magneto early this week (Slick 4371 IC mag). On my first
post-work flight I noticed the cyl # 1 EGT climb to possibly
over 1450F with Cyl #1 CHT of 425F...other three cylinders
were lower and comparable to each other...only the Cyl #1
temperatures spiked. During the left mag drop test the rpm
dropped by about 120 rpm. The planes climb rate was
definitely sluggish compared to normal climbout. I normally
take off full rich as the plane has bags of power and it
helps keep my CHT's below 400F.
Today the workshop checked the magneto timing which he found
to be 30 deg BTC versus the Lycoming spec of 25 deg BTC. The
discrepancy appears to have been caused by an internal mag
timing error which the shop set while installing the mag,
compounded by their not electronically confirming the
advance....timing appears to have been set solely off the
flywheel timing mark..which is wrong if the mag internal
timing was wrong to begin with.
Static manifold pressure at my home airport is about
24.5"Hg. Takeoff RPM is 2650 rpm....this puts the takeoff
power at somewhat over 75% (24/24).
My question for VAF is this: Could this 5 deg advance timing
error have resulted in detonation during takeoff which may
have caused the higher than expected EGT/CHT?
I'm hesitant to fly the plane until I better understand the
potential for detonation damage...may have another shop
borescope the cylinders Friday morning before flying it
I would be grateful for any suggestions as to my next course
of action. I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Panel Review Request, IFR ...jcarne
Fuse Status Report ...PilotjohnS
After a very fun summer, finally got back
into it. Managed to get the main gear on. I am getting
started on the plumbing installation. Got the parking brake
valve installed using a custom bracket in the same place as
the stock bracket.
Leok RV-10 ...build update
This is the first post of my project here. A
little late since I am on the downhill side of the
I passed two milestones this week that prompted this
post. The interior is finished, and I found the last
issues in my avionics and got them corrected.
So here is the interior. I used a friend that has
been doing custom cars for 30 years. He tells me
Airplanes are a lot more work than cars!
About 30 days out
[ed. David sent me one
of these shirts last year, and I'm wearing it as I
type this. Lovin me this shirt.
Something about that lobster in the RV-12 cockpit
makes me laugh. v/r,dr]
Skirt Status Report ...kentlik
Fitting is going well and I know I can get it tight. Had
to order another tube of Sika to do it the way I want.
Aug 9, 2019. Issue #4,887
I got in a .2hr this a.m. early before it climbed into the 90's...then
the 100's. I'm based in the '0' in the '106' top-centered
in the map below. Tuned NAV1 to the TTT VOR 130* radial
that runs across our home field at a 45*. Tracked that on
the way back, ended up at the right field and called it a VOR
check in the logbook <g>. A productive flight, albeit
short. Too hot really for anything else.
Hope it's cooler where you are, and wishing you a happy, safe and
Eagle's Nest Projects - Central HS (WI) ...R.E. Butcher
Magnus Schoreder - 1st SOLO FLIGHT
When Mr.Lund jumped out of the plane and I was going
through the checklist to get started on my own, I
felt pretty nervous. When I took off, the worry
disappeared and I felt excited and confident with
flying. I never thought I would be doing this by the
time I was 16 so I want to thank Mr.Senft, Mr.Lund,
Mr.Ferguson, and anyone else who gave us this
40 Years of the RV-4 at AirVenture 2019! ...Nived17
Oshkosh 2019 was the third Oshkosh for me and my
RV-4 and hands down the most enjoyable. 2019
celebrated the 40th anniversary of the RV-4. I was
fortunate enough to lead in organizing some meet up
festivities along with assistance from Greg Hughes
at Vans and Charlie Becker from the EAA. Hats off to
both of these gentlemen for their help in making the
Initial Contact ...Tom Betka
Newbie to the forum. I'm an A&P and an ex-CFII
who'll soon be doing a CFII-reinstatement ride. Just
got back into aviation after being more or less out
of it for 10 years or so. I used to have an Aztec
that I maintained myself, and occasionally I even
got to fly it...between squawks.
I love the looks of the RV-10 and am strongly
considering building one...or possibly the RV-14. My
aerobatic-loving days may well be behind me at this
point, but I still might like to do an occasional
roll or two--hence the thought about the RV-14.
However I really enjoy IFR flying, and I would like
to take some trips with the wife in the aircraft.
I've considered just buying a certificated aircraft
but when you really dig into what's out there (and
the typical hours on airframes), it's frightening!
ADs, Service Bulletins, eddy current inspections.
Ugh! That right there is reason enough to just build
your own aircraft, I'd say.
Anyway, just wanted to say hello to everyone and
introduce myself on the forum. I would love to find
someone in Wisconsin with an RV-10 or RV-14 that I
could at least look at. I wasn't able to get to the
Van's booth at Oshkosh this year, so it may take a
trip to Oregon state to make the final decision...
Green Bay, WI
Airline pilot flies dad's remains home from Vietnam 52 years after
seeing him off at same Dallas airport (article)
...not RV, but I'm glad I read it. dr
"There will be a Visitation from 4:00 p.m. to
8:00 p.m. on August 9, 2019 at White's
Funeral Home, 130 Houston Ave., Weatherford, TX
76086. Services and full military honors will begin
at 10:00 a.m., August 10, 2019 at Holder's
Chapel United Methodist Church, 501 Holders Chapel
Road, Cool (Weatherford) TX 76088."
(Photo: Ashlee D. Smith,
NTSB Probably Cause List Updated
...(712) RV listings spanning 40 years.
Below are the probable causes release in 2019 (at
the top of the list).
Aug 8, 2019. Issue #4,886
Interesting hot air diffraction flow photo detail ...EdH
Looking through some shots I took of my buddy
Steve flying our -8, and spotted an interesting
visual display of the hot-air exit flow from the
bottom of the cowl (and the exhausts).
Just something you don't usually see, and is down to
light diffracted differently through the varying
temperature bits of air. I think the background
helps make it obvious in this shot.
A crop from the image.
KGLE 18/36 closed for repair ...Rich Rudolph RV-6A
Gainesville (TX) RWY 18/36 will close tomorrow
aug 8 for repair work. See NOTAM. 13/31 will
be open so you can still get gas. Closure will be
intermittent for the month.
Avionics Advice ...Pilotjim77
Below is a pic of my current panel. I would like
to install a used 430W where the 295 is. Then, I
want to replace the DG with an electric EFIS such as
a G5 or similar. I figure this will give me dual
radios, IFR gps capability including an indicator
through the G5, as well as VOR/LOC. Does this seem a
sensible plan? Can I use the same indicator (G5) for
both the GPS output and the VOR/LOC output from the
Rough Idle after Shutdown ...Drippy
I have a little over 200hrs on my IO540 and for the
first time on shut down yesterday it continued to
idle (very roughly) after I pulled the mixture to
idle cut off. I let it go for a 10-20 seconds
verifying the mixture was full back and ended up
killing it with the ignition switch.
I have a light speed II ignition with back-up mech
The only thing different from every other day was it
was warm 85F+ but I have flown on other days like
that with no issue.
I was thinking my mixture setting on the throttle
may need a little adjusting but figured I should
More 'Views From the Hangar'
Alex Peterson RV-6A
Garmin TeamX Job Openings, Aug. 2019 ...g3xpert
Are you looking to turn your passion for aviation
into more than a hobby? Garmin's TeamX is looking to
hire aviation enthusiasts who want to shape the
future of aviation. Consider joining our team in one
of the following roles!
TeamX is looking for a pilot with a passion for
aviation. At its core, TeamX is dedicated to
providing world-class avionics that improve the
safety and joy of our customers' flights. This role
has the opportunity to perform varied functions in
support of TeamX's strategic mission ranging from
formal project management to systems engineering to
customer support liaison. Recent opportunities with
certification into the low-end of Part 23 aviation
have opened doors with numerous OEMs (Original
Equipment Manufacturers), yet the team remains
committed to its primary market - serving E/AB
(Experimental/Amateur Built) and LSA (Light-Sport
Aircraft) - which means that the team is creating
new processes that enable growth in both markets.
This position will require a strong attention to
detail as the team works intimately with customers,
whether through G3Xpert, OEMs, or interfacing with
internal Garmin teams. In the coming years, TeamX
will continue to push the limits of avionics
technology focusing on safety and advanced user
TeamX is looking for a mid/high-level developer
seeking a fast-paced, aviation centric position. At
its core, TeamX is dedicated to providing
world-class avionics that improve the safety and joy
of our customers' flights. Recent opportunities with
certification into the low-end of Part 23 aviation
have opened doors with numerous OEMs (Original
Equipment Manufacturers), yet the team remains
committed to its primary market - serving E/AB
(Experimental/Amateur Built) and LSA (Light-Sport
Aircraft) - which means that the team will need to
build a sustainable foundation that provides robust
software while allowing for dynamic, cutting-edge
feature creation. This role will contribute to
TeamX's endeavors to offer a flexible ecosystem with
unparalleled customer interaction and safety.
Aug 7, 2019. Issue #4,885
One of our local RV friends made a precautionary landing Tuesday at
McKinney while on a trip to the NE. The engine began
running rough at 7,500' and he was loosing RPM, so he landed at the nearest long runway. An RV-8 guy on our
field went and got him, and his RV-4 spent most of the day away.
Some of the 52F usuals worked the problem, and they got it back
after lunch. Could be
the mag. He runs one mag and one EI. Developing...
Good head work, grace under pressure and we're glad our friend and his bird are
scratch-free. A good day all around.
Hangar with a view ...lucaperazzolli
Sometimes looking outside the hangar door makes you feel
I feel you, Luca! ...Bill Boyd
Here's an Alleghany mountain moonrise from the hangar
door. "The RV-6A in repose." Impossible not to feel blessed
to have such beauty close at hand.
And so it begins......
I have skin in the game now. Bought a second hand -9
empennage kit. It is a complete kit and came with a lot of
tools, clecos, clamps etc. I have spent the weekend building
tables, a work bench and storage. So far the only concern is
one side rudder skin has some corrosion. I don't know enough
to know if I can salvage it or if I'll have to get a new
one. Also, any thoughts on taking the building fundamentals
class? There is one next weekend at PDK.
RV-9 Empennage (Beginning)
It's an Angry, High Stress World...
a video of a girl and her donkey to cleanse the mental
palette for a bit. I know it's not RV, but it's my
site and it made me smile. ;^) I watched it twice, and I
think you'll be glad you did too.
After watching this, watch Steve's 13min RV video below.
You're day will now be off to a good start and you'll be ready for
RV construction, flying, dreaming and/or MX.
RV-8 and the Mt. Olympus Turn ...Steve Rush RV-8
Saturday 8/3/19 was much clearer than the past several
weekends. While we went back to Forks again, the trip was
different this time. There were very few clouds over the
Olympics and everything was visible. There also was almost
no wind at altitude and relatively light winds on the
ground. The air was mostly smooth, with only a few bumps
below the small clouds that marked the top of the thermal
On the trip out I headed inland at Port Angeles and passed
through the canyons around Lake Crescent. There were almost
no bumps over the lake, even as I dropped below the tops of
the hills. Once I got west of the lake over the land the
bumps picked up, but remained pretty gentle.
It was a really busy day in the northwestern most corner of
the continental US. As we approached Forks there was an
airplane there already and as we approached there was
another (besides us) approaching all at the same time, which
is a lot for a place that is not even in the middle of
nowhere, it is on the outskirts. You have to drive at least
an hour to get to nowhere.
I managed to land and get out of the airplane in time to
video Carl's landing, it seemed only right as he's recorded
mine a number of times.
As we came out of the restaurant I saw a black SUV with
Texas plates. I wondered why in the world anyone would drive
from Texas to Forks Washington. Apparently, due to the
Twilight movies, that I know nothing about, Forks has become
a pretty big tourist attraction since those stories
supposedly took place in Forks, though the filming was done
As we came back from lunch there was yet another airplane on
the ramp. As I looked from the ramp to the Logging Museum
across the street I saw a van that said "Twilight Tours" on
the side. I never knew about any of this.
Just after we took off from Forks I heard someone taking off
from Quillayute. Shortly after there was an amphib that took
off from Quillayute as well. Also at the same time there was
someone going into Sekiu.
On the way home I took a turn around Mt. Olympus and
Hurricane Ridge. The clouds that did form were very
inconsiderate and insisted on being at the very altitude I
wanted to be at. I managed to make a few passes at 7,500'
dodging the occasional cloud.
After that I headed directly for home. Before we left that
morning Carl commented on how few airplanes there were
around at Arlington. I told him that he just jinxed it. That
came to pass when I got back. There were several airplanes
approaching all at the same time. I had to slow down early
and do a number of turns, a couple of 360s and one S turn (a
180 to the right followed by a 180 to left) in order to
sequence myself into the conga line.
At least from all that I managed to pull off a good
G3X GDU460 MFD - inflight reboots and freeze ...maus92 -8A
Today I was out testing a complex flight plan
with ~60 waypoints for a project. The flight took
place at 1,000' over a local river, and I had flown
a similar pattern the day before. About midway
through, I noticed that the GDL-39R traffic page on
the PFD said "Traffic Coasting," then the MFD
rebooted. The MFD ran for another minute or so, then
I got a message that the VP-X had lost comm with the
PFD. Then my radio X'ed out. Then some other EIS
instruments X'ed out. Then the transponder X'ed out.
However, the radio was still receiving the nearby
tower comms, and the autopilot was following the
flight plan perfectly. The radio freq box came back.
Then the MFD rebooted again. I decided to call it
quits for the day and head back home, and called the
tower. Thankfully they heard, and confirmed the
transponder was working. On the way back, the MFD
rebooted again, then froze. I entered the pattern,
and on final, the MFD rebooted again and seemed to
be working for the short time between landing and
getting back to the shed.
I called Garmin after I pushed back into the hangar,
and spoke to one of the reps - not sure if he was an
G3X guy, or a general support person even though I
was calling the EXP line. Basically I explained the
problem, then he asked if I had the latest software
- which I thought I did - 8.3. Nope, new version 8.4
just came out to fix some issue they were having. He
also suggested not having SD cards in the slots
because that has been causing some rebooting
apparently (I use SD cards to record flight data and
screenshots, and load fpls.) If these steps don't
fix the problem, I was told to send in the unit for
an exchange for $350.
1. Obviously I will update the software.
2. I will only keep an SD card in the PFD (not both
as I had today.)
3. I don't want to send in the MFD until more
troubleshooting is performed.
I had a similar problem with this MFD two summers
ago (although not particularly hot over the
mountains at the time,) but it came back after
rebooting. I'm wondering if this might be a
temperature issue. It was pretty hot in the cockpit
at 1000 ft and a bubble canopy, and the G3X screens
get pretty hot all on their own. On the last go
around, Garmin asked me to download a file from the
unit and send it to them - no such request this
time. Anybody have other suggestions?
Attaching a pic for your amusement
(reply from g3xpert)
Please contact us via the email shown below. We are
happy to work through this issue with you. We would
definitely like to collect the diagnostic
There is no problem with using a SD card for flight
data logging in both GDU units, but it is always
best to only use those cards for flight data logging
(no software or databases).
We have never seen a heat related issue in a GDU
4XX. The single cooling fan is almost not needed and
hardly ever runs.
Aug 6, 2019. Issue #4,884
Mr. X Pic ...anvil over Durango.
I suggest we go to the
- 3,840 pixels)
Total Electrical Failure on First Leg to Oshkosh - self induced
I was at altitude settled into cruise for the 4 hr leg
from Auburn WA to Logan UT to pick up my son from school,
and talking to Chinook Approach for flight following. About
an hour into the flight, I take a drink of water, and put
the bottle back into the gear leg weldment, and poof - all
electrical power goes off. The Dynon alarm says "aircraft
power lost". The radio and transponder are off. No power
from the plane power alternator, and no voltage from the
battery. I thought for sure I had lost the alternator, or
the alternator belt, but the battery was offline too. I
started a slow descent to Hermiston Oregon since I was 9500
ft above them and there are builders on the airport that
Trouble shooting began. I switched on the ebus and power
came back to the transponder. I looked at the Cessna type
split master and that seemed correct. But a second glance
conformed that both battery and alternator were both off.
Being careful to turn on the battery first (thanks
Vansairforce for that previous discussion!), and then the
alternator, everything came back on center was calling my N
number since I had disappeared from the the radar.
It turns out, the the location for my master
alternator/battery switches are in the perfect alignment
with the arc of the water bottle path when I finish drinking
and go to place it in the the gear weldment. The glancing
blow was perfect enough to flip both switches, but not
enough to feel any impact through the bottle. I was able to
continue and it make to Oshkosh the next day in time for the
A couple of takeways:
- my switches are on the left corner of the panel can
readily be accidentally turned off by a water bottle or
anything else I may be placing down to my lower left.
- I need to install a switch guard or relocate the switches
(any one know of a good switch guard for this?)
- I have the switches labeled "battery" and "alternator",
but not on or off. I am surprised how easily I mistook the
position of the switches at the first glance. Labeling
On/Off positions might have helped not missing this the
- It was reassuring to know that when using VFR flight
following, they are there to help if an actual emergency
RV-10 Aileron Trim Springs Rubbing....Dustyone PIREP
I have now found 3 x RV-10's that have had the Aileron
Trim springs rubbing on the Aileron pushrod tubes. The plans
were changed to require the builder to inspect and confirm
that there is no contact in 2016, however prior to that I
guess builders just kept building.
The fix is simply to bend the Aileron Trim Motor arm
,forward, away from the Aileron pushrod approx 3/16".
If you have any noise, please inspect, as the springs will
eventually wear through the pushrod with possible dire
control issues !!
Photos from a 1000hr + RV-10,
Oshkosh -- Lessons learned! ...bkervaski
This was our first Airventure and although we got off to
a rough start it was a blast and we can't wait for next
1. Follow your gut -- not your neighbor
More than a few folks gave me the very sound advice to put
boards under the wheels so if the ground was soft the plane
wouldn't sink. We brought some boards with us and then
noticed that nobody followed that advice. Sure enough, the
plane sank and we had to rock it out a bit. Nice crack on
the front wheel pant to show for not following my gut.
2. Tall standing tents won't survive a storm
We lost our tent the first night due to that first crazy
squall line Friday. Somehow found a hotel until our new (and
better suited to weather) tent arrived on Tuesday. The hotel
was in full rape mode, $366/night for what amounts to a
$89/night hotel. Ouch.
3. Rudder locks can break
Yea .. nice ding on my beautiful rudder that I get to fix
and have repainted. The 2nd squall line on Saturday broke
the gust lock. It's totally my fault too. I had no idea you
had to "prime" pvc pipe before cementing. The rudder somehow
bent past the rudder lock but somehow didn't have any other
damage. I'm going to re-evaluate my rudder locking system.
4. Flight In -- Flight Out
We were fortunate to not have any issues getting in, went
like clockwork, although I didn't impress anybody with my
landing, glad the controller said "at or beyond the yellow
dot" Same when we left, beautiful and uneventful flights
both directions. This was our first long cross country, it
was really confidence inspiring. (Thanks, Dan!) The Chicago
shoreline was the highlight of my trip.
The actual event was overwhelming, we stayed an extra day.
On the very last day we realized we missed the entire
vintage section and the seaplane base. So much to see. The
museum was really well done, I was blown away.
2020 Oshkosh or bust!
7A Rebirthing Status Report ...kentlik
I spent way too much time on this left skirt but it is
First year fun and adventure ...PIREP
So, tomorrow is the first anniversary of my first
flight. I surprised myself when I looked at the
numbers, 137 hours hobbs, 112 hours air time, 95
flights with 170 landings at 36 airports. Apart from
a bit of pilot and/or builder initiated
misadventure, my 9A has been a great way to spend
the last year. Sure, it could use a few extra knots
of drag cleanup, my wheel pants will never be
perfect and I won't be winning awards -- but I'm
flying all over North America in something I built
in my garage! That doesn't get old!
Year one visits (# airports landed at) -
Canada - Alberta(11), Saskatchewan(3), Manitoba(1),
Ontario(2), New Brunswick(1), Prince Edward
US - Montana(2), Wyoming, Colorado(1), Nebraska,
South Dakota(1), North Dakota(3), Wisconsin(1),
Michigan, Iowa, Minnesota(1), Illinois, Indiana(1),
Ohio(2), Pennsylvania, New York(1), Vermont(1), New
What amazing machines these are.
RV-9A #91081, C-GCPT
Aug 5, 2019. Issue #4,883
Long Cross-Country Coast to Coast ...Bill Cloughley RV-7
Just posted the web log of my long cross-country flight
out west. Baltimore to Niagara Falls, along the Canadian
border to Seattle, down to San Ciego, then Tucson, Dallas
and home. 67 hours in the RV-7. Lots of good pics. Spent
entirely too much time putting it together. Check it out!
Built a courtesy light for the baggage area ...Draker
As a fun little side-project while I wait for my
finishing kit to arrive, I went and implemented a courtesy
light for my RV-7A. The point of this is to briefly provide
some light after you turn the master switch off so you can
see as you're getting out. Like how your car's internal
lights work when you remove your key. I chose to put the
light over the baggage area. Here are the steps I followed.
This was a pretty easy project but I thought I'd post a
write-up because I'm pretty proud of how it turned out. The
usual "this is just what I did, your airplane is your
airplane" disclaimer obviously applies!
Cut a cover plate to go over F-732A out of 0.025 sheet. Do a
search here, many builders seem to be covering this channel
up for cosmetic reasons.
RV High Wing Super Cub STOL Feedback
the sales pitch,
whittled down to one sentence as, "Would you order
one right now?" David's email below in its entirety:
Post-OSH folks are turning their attention to the next
my hands and knees petitioning the
mothership continues for them to kindly consider offering us
loyal fans in the hot zones a
high wing RV for shade, with windows/doors that open in flight.
Something STOL to expand the RV brand envelope, that opens
up real RV backcountry. I received distilled feedback this weekend from D.
Wilson regarding my question in
I hope to get 100 by the end of the year. Fingers
My kind of email, and added to the petition. That's
77 people ready to go (feedback is
A video you might enjoy...
RV-14A #140665 C-FZYQ ...it begins
So, long story: In the late 1980s I was a
subscriber to Kitplanes magazine, and saw ads and articles
about the RV-3 and -4. That was the plane I wanted to build.
I was living at the time near the original location of ACS
in Fullerton, so I went there and bought several books by
Tony Bingelis, which I still have to this day.
But life and family, as they often do, took precedence. The
thought of building took a seat in the "way back" as we used
to call it, but I still held onto the books.
In late 2016 I got the itch to look back into building (a
RV-7 this time) and set to work locating a partially
completed kit. I bought an emp kit from the classifieds here
on this site, brought it home and completed the horizontal
stab. The vertical and the rudder were done by the previous
December of 2017 my wife and I went to Portland for a long
weekend, and my ulterior motive was to get a tour of the
Vans mothership. During the tour, I sat with her in their
-14 factory plane, and was impressed with the amount of room
that it had compared to the -7. I tried at the time to
convince my wife that we needed the larger version. But she
said we should just continue on with what we already had.
Fast forward to last week at OSH, at the Vans display, I sat
with her in the same -14 and in the silver and gray -14A.
Without much prompting from me, she agreed that she liked
the roomy cabin, and suggested that if I wanted to, we could
put a deposit down on the emp kit
I didn't waste a minute going back inside and getting in
line with my Visa card.
Got the email yesterday with the agreement to sign, and this
evening I got my order acknowledgement and wire transfer
instructions. I called Anne to give her my shipping
information, and she said they have something like 39 tail
kits on order from OSH, and that the crating guys are
slammed right now. So in 3 to 6 weeks I should be picking it
up in Michigan and bringing it through customs home.
I just keep reminding myself "one bite at a time"
RV-14A #140665 ordered
RV-10 Empennage - Remove Vert and Horz ...ADub
I am driving out to purchase a completed empennage for
RV-10. After inspecting I plan to load it up. The picture
from the seller is from the bottom as it is hanging up so I
cannot see if the Vertical Stabilizer is attached but the
Horizontal Stabilizer is attached. I do not yet have a set
of plans. Can anyone tell me tools needed to remove the
Vertical and Horizontal Stabilizers from the tail for
transport? thanks in advance!
[ed. Posted this pic because I
thought it was a pretty dang creative way to store an -10
Food for thought....know your emergency check!
I thought I would share this experience so that others
may take something away from it.
Last evening I went for a quick flight in my 8 from my local
airport to a BBQ about a 25 minute flight away. Nice
enjoyable flight with no issues.
I have noticed that my right fuel tank drain has had a
slight drip coming from it and my plan was to replace it
this week with a new one.
So, I decided I would run my tank as low as I safely could
instead of draining a large amount.
I have a D180 with capacitive plates that were calibrated
about 74 hours ago. I have noticed that my left tank was far
more accurate than my right tank and it was also time to do
On the way back home last evening, I was about 4.5 miles
from the airport and decided to do some steep turns. I was
showing about 5 gallons in my right tank and I had 16 gal in
my left tank. I'm into about 270 degrees of a steep left
turn and then it happened. My engine started to quit.
I was a 1000 ft AGL, and immediately rolled the wings level
and picked a field and went to 90 kts. After realizing what
happened, I immediately went into my FMS checks (fuel,
mixture, switches) switched the fuel to the left tank, boost
pump on, mixture rich, and checked mags on both. The engine
sputtered and the came roaring back.
I immediately climbed and turned toward the airport came in
Number of lessons learned here...
I check my fuel levels before flight visually and do not
rely on my EFIS, but I did push my luck with the level being
at 5 gallons showing on the EFIS when I knew it wasn't as
accurate as my left tank.
I should have flown back on the left tank instead of trying
to maximize my fuel burn from the right tank and physically
drain it instead of burning it.
I realized how important it is to know your emergency checks
and to act quickly and calmly. I'm fortunate that I have the
opportunity to practice emergencies during our checkouts
every year with the flying outfit I'm with. I also do
checkouts on our staff, which I think had prepared me a
little more for what happened.
Over 30 years of flying, I have only ever lost a mag...this
was the first time I ever had the "oh ****" moment.
If you ever get yourself in an unnecessary bind like I did,
which can totally be prevented, always go FMS..Fuel,
mixture, switches...and fly the plane.
I'm not sharing my stumble to get flamed. I just want others
to hopefully learn from what mistake I made.
I changed the fuel drain...some fuel lube got into the o
ring and trapped some debris. And after draining the tank, I
had about 5 oz left.....not 5 gallons....
...reported on mothership in the last few weeks.
First Engine Start Attempt
Looking for some wisdom from the forum.
Attempted first run of my IO-320-B1A in my RV6a
Following the lycoming start sequence ,fuel pump on ,full
throttle and full mixture , I got 35psi fuel presss but no
indicated fuel flow .
Pump off , mixture idle cut off and throttle 1/4 .
After various attempts managed the odd cylinder to fire but
could not get it to run , checked plugs a bit damp but ok .
Replaced upper with new plugs .
Still occasional cylinder would fire .
Started investigating the fuel system and with fuel pump on
we have good flow right up to the Bendix injector body but
regardless of mixture or throttle position no fuel flow /
Pulled the inlet screen filter and it clean so looks as if
the injector body is not working .
The engine was stripped and rebuilt about 10 years ago but
nothing was done to the injector .
Any advice or suggestions before I pull the injector for a
service/ bench test
Melted Firesleeve near Exhaust ...mike3715
I recently had to remove the exhaust from my RV-7 to pull
cyllinders, and noticed some melted firesleeve around one of
the control cables:
I removed the firesleeve and noted some charring on the
metal sheath, but it appears OK otherwise.
Any recommendations as to how to proceed?
Nose Gear Issue (Long Gospel)
Late last year we developed what we thought was a nose
gear shimmy on our RV-7A. The aircraft has 1000 flight
hours. It started as a light amplitude shaking noticed on
roll out when we were going slow prior to exiting the
runway. We had a friend watch us land and roll out. He noted
that the motion of the nose wheel was vertical (nose strut
bending along the longitudinal axis) and not horizontal
(shimmy). We then jacked the aircraft and inspected and
found the nose landing gear attach bolt near the firewall
had lost torque. We replaced the bolt and retorqued. The
joint seemed tight.
We were planning a panel upgrade so we went down then for
the next five months. While we were down we removed and
repacked the nose wheel bearings and conducted the pull
test. All was well.
Fast forward post panel up - Things got worse. If we did not
consciously hold the nose off on landing roll out, we would
get a violent motion that shook the entire plane on landing
deceleration at slow speed. We then conducted taxi tests and
determined that at 24 knots ground speed while decelerating
we would get the vertical motion/shake. This vibration never
happens on take-off most likely due to off-loading of the
nose gear during acceleration.
Last night we tied the tail down (nose off the ground) and
banged the nose strut both vertically and horizontally.
Horizontally it is extremely well damped. Vertically it
looks like a tuning fork that eventually damps but rings
noticeably for a period of time. Obviously, we have looked
for a cracked engine mount and cracked gear leg with no
findings. Additionally, we have the AntiSplat nose job
installed however, we operate from hard surface runways and
only have about 10 grass field landings in 1000 hours.
Things we had done in an attempt to remedy the situation;
Replaced nose tire with new one - No change
Reduced nose tire pressure to 30 psi - No change
Rechecked the pull test on the fork - No change
Replaced main tires, rebuilt right brake caliper (it
appeared to be sticking a little, repacked main wheel
bearings, replaced brake pads - Have not flown this
Has anyone experienced this and more importantly what is the
corrective action? The new nose gear damper appears
promising but is a big job.
Fairing Interference with Grove foil gear ...cdeerinck
These are Grove airfoiled gear on an RV-8. Due to the
bend, there is some interference between them and the U-807
Can I get any advice on how others have dealt with this?
Do I bend the bracket, or cut it back? Any tips on how to
not dislocate the end?
Soft start failure - RV-12
Our RV-12 (engine SN 6775234) has an interesting failure.
The engine has the original ignition modules, with an added
soft-start module that I'm 99% sure is the Bully Hawk
soft-start module. There is no label on it, other than a
QA/date code sticker. Per the original builder's
instructions, we normally start on the A ignition only and
switch on the B side as soon as the engine is running.
When cold, the first start of the day, it will not start on
the A ignition. Crank all you want, it won't start. As soon
as you turn on the B ignition, it starts right up. Run-up is
normal, with both ignitions working fine. After the engine
is warmed up, it will start on the A ignition only just
fine. A couple weeks ago when it first happened, I started
it 8 times in one day normally, after the first balky start.
We found the ground wire to the soft-start box broken off.
Great!! That was an easy fix. Unfortunately, fixing it did
not change anything at all. I made a test flight last night.
The first time I had to turn on the B ignition to get it to
start. I let the engine warm up, did a totally normal
run-up, and flew a lap around the pattern. Shut down, and it
would start on just the A side with no problem.
So, I think we have a bad soft-start module. It looks like
this one is no longer made. The Rotax soft-start for this
engine is around $1K, and would require a new flywheel and
other parts -- I believe that means pulling the engine. Not
really on our list of things we'd like to do, frankly.
Anyone have experience with this and/or have any
suggestions? Or a Bully Hawk module for sale cheap?
Aug 2, 2019. Issue #4,882
When I pulled into the airport Thursday morning, usual suspect Kay was
taxiing out to the run up area for his morning flight before it
got too hot. I just had time to get the Jeep about a third
of the way down the taxiway with the sun to my back. Below
are the best two of the litter. Not the best focus, but
hey, these RV-8s accelerate fast ;^). By 0830 it was too
hot to fly and the airport went pretty much silent - time for
air conditioned shops and mechanical things needing attention.
Wishing you and yours a safe, well-hydrated, happy and RV-filled weekend!
Milestone: Canopy 'Done'! ...jcarne -7A
Well I got the skirts all attached with rivets
and Sika. It came out pretty good and I even got the
latch handle pretty much done.
I'm calling the canopy done at this point.
OSH'19 Trip Report Pictures ...Bobby Hester
This Just Happened to a Friend ...Bill Boyd reply in 'brake
Conditioning his kit-standard brakes prior to
airworthiness inspection. Said he was doing extended
30-40mph taxi with brakes applied. Wheel pants on.
At end of second run the length of the taxiway he
saw smoke rolling out both sides. RV-10,
Conventional non-Royco brake fluid, standard nitrile
O-rings. Extinguished the flaming side with a fire
extinguisher. The other side was smoldering, both
tires ruined. Both brake rotors said to be deeply
scored - no idea how. He's understandably pretty
bummed to come this close to first flight and almost
lose the plane. I'd give him my Matco's and wheel
pants off my one-year-to-go build and get back in
line for more parts if I could.
This raises several questions/ issues. What is the
recommended procedure for breaking in the brake
Should there be a ground crewman with radio
present for this procedure to watch for smoke?
Should the pants ever be on while this is done? His
take about 2 hours to remove/reinstall for reasons
unclear to me - mine come off and on in a jiffy.
This inconvenience clearly played a role in his
decision not to go pant-less for brake conditioning
Do we need more airflow in the pants, especially if
not upgrading to bigger brakes, more temp-tolerant
fluids and parts? This seems to be a relatively rare
event, but such a potential tragedy. A brake fire
could cost one of us an airplane, or leave us
stranded in the bush. Having happened to a fellow
builder who has been such an encouragement to me, it
hits really close to home.
Aug 1, 2019. Issue #4,881
Bob Reece, father of my hangar-mate Rob Reece, was recognized at OSH'19
for his 50th year as a volunteer. Let that sink in.
50. Bob runs the homebuilt judging program and Rob helps
his Dad out with the details (computers, hand devices the judges
record their data on, etc). Every OSH I've attended always
includes a visit with Bob.
How can this not be the top story? Congratulations Mr. Reece!
What Are These RV-10 QB Wings Worth?
...help me decide what to ask for them (a poll)
This is a little different for the site. A
friend delivered his ten year old (I think) standard
kit built RV-10 wings that are a little past the QB
stage with these instructions, "Get what you can get
for them." I bought a car from the guy years
ago (he gave me a good deal), so I'm returning the
See the pictures
There is a dent in one of the ailerons.
There is some rust on some of the steel parts.
One of the end ribs has a tear in it and will need
to be patched. I don't know if the tanks leak
or not. They were stored in New Mexico and
there is some sand in the nooks and crannies.
Comes with the wing stand.
So, the mothership
offers the standard kit for
$11,450. You can order a QB RV-10 wing for
an additional $6,325. There is a
10 week wait on RV-10 wing kits. So, if
you wanted this new we're talking somewhere in the
area of $17K. What's it worth? I dunno.
Please vote what you think in the poll and
what I'll probably do is look at the bell curve
distribution in a week or so, then offer them for a
price slightly left (cheaper) of the average.
Yours in thrift,
August Calendar Wallpaper
RV-3B Status Report ...David Paule
After thinking about it some more, I
decided to make a free-standing roll bar rather than
tying it to the seat bulkhead like the RV-3B plans
show. The new approach will emulate an RV-4 roll bar
except adjusted to fit my RV-3B, and without the
horizontal shoulder-harness attachment piece. Hereís
what the RV-4 roll bar looks like.
Nice Filtered Inlet ...DanH post
One of the best RV ideas I saw at OSH was this
intake for an airbox with a large area K&N filter.
The concept could probably be used with a modified
Vans airbox for the vertical intake engines also.
The problem is how to put the lower cowl on the
airplane while dealing with the connecting seals or
ducts. Here the builder has fabricated an aluminum
sleeve. It is inserted after the cowl is in place,
slipping inside the orange duct leading to the
airbox. It is then fixed into place in the cowl with
Am am deeply ashamed to say I can't remember whose
airplane this was, despite talking with the builder
for a few minutes. Claim it please, and kick me next
time you see me
Great idea, and beautifully done.
7A Rebirthing Status Report ...kentlik
Finally worked out the math on the new flap
actuator. Or at least it works on the bench but we
will see how she performs in the plane...
Had to make a new rod tip to thread in the Heim
What am I missing? ...ShortSnorter -14
It's been a long day pounding
rivets, so that's my excuse if this is obvious. What
is the difference between:
Step 3 page 26-14 &
Step 3 page 26-21
It seems that all of the seat ribs have been riveted
on page 26-14 with the exceptions of the "Do Not
Rivet" which applies to the remainder of the
Tire Damage ...Dennis Enns RV-8
Pulled my wheel pants to check brakes and tire
pressures before an extended cross country and found
this gouge and crack in the right main. The tire is
a Vans supplied Air Hawk 5.00x5 that came with the
kit about 17 years ago. Its got 140 hours and
approximately 360 landings on it. All on paved
runways. I run them at 36 psi.
1. I'm inclined to replace it before the next
flight. What say you?
2. Is it best to replace both tires at the same
3. I've had zero problems with leakage so would it
work to reuse the tubes?
Jul 31, 2019. Issue #4,880.
The 'ol heat index was 106*F in DFW Tuesday. Flew .2 in the morning
at 0730 to carry a book over to a friend at nearby Propwash (my
excuse to fly). Six minutes each way, and it was HOT when
I got back on the ground. No wind and sticky. I
kinda miss fall... ;^). Brutal
RVating here - just saps your strength.
Sure was easy to pic the top story today <g>.
Heat index 7/30 5pm local (Dallas)
"I'm On My Way" PIREP ...SuperCubDriver
So here is the story from Iqualit / Baffin Island
/ Northern Canada:
The next morning there was really bad weather with
low stratus, drizzle, looked like fog also. So I
delayed my departure for several hours until the sh...t
slowly disappeared and was only able to fly one leg
that day to Kangerlussuaq in western Greenland.
Kangerlussuaq has reliable forcasts and is well
equipped. I got the last hotel room at the airport
and could see my airplane out of the window across
the runway. Only expensive wifi so no posts from
there. The next morning I got up very early and went
to the met office just 50 meters away from the hotel
and got a very thorough weather briefing, it is
seldom nowadays to actually be in the office and
talk to a briefer. Several times before I was
talking to her and she already kind of knew me.
There were some clouds forecasted over the Ice Cap,
too high to overfly and too low to make a safe
emergency landing. Flying in the clouds would mean
possible icing with no options. Later in the day the
clouds were supposed to disappear but we could see
from the satellite images that diverting a little to
the north should do it. Kulusuk reported perfect
weather. I decided to launch, divert to the north
and may be turn back. It was again a perfect flight
with no problems at all and when approaching Kulusuk
on the east coast I was rewarded with the same
breathtaking views like six weeks ago. I talked to
Nuuk Information that I will be offline for ten
minutes for sightseeing and will report back. I flew
down a calving glacier, then over the broken ice
which separated over the next few miles and later
over the larger pieces - icebergs. It was so calm,
beautiful and so pieceful that it was easy to forget
about the dangers of cold water.
Pitch servo installation ...Casey -8
I'm installing my pitch servo and noticed that
the AN470 rivets shown here interfere with the servo
I've done a lot of searching and haven't seen
this mentioned elsewhere, so am I missing something?
A simple solution could be to drill out the AN470s,
countersink, and install AN426s. What have others
OSH'19 Pics ...FloMo14Builder
Creeping bottom cowling hinge pins ...Patrick RV-12iS
Q: Hi all,
On my newly completed RV-12iS with a Rotax 912iS
engine, the bottom cowling hinge pins (the lower,
longer ones) creep up out of their hinges after
several hours of operation. I've tried cleaning off
the lube on the pins twice, bending the pins,
straightening the pins, tucking the top of the pin
under the shop head of the rivet just aft of the
hinge, but after a couple hours of fight, the pins
will be 2 to 5 inches up out of their hinges.
A friend suggested safety wiring the pins through
the cowling wall but I'd prefer not to do anything
that can be seen from the outside.
Is anyone else having this problem and how have you
dealt with it?
A: (Scott) My suggestion is confirm
prop blades are at exactly the same pitch angle
(within .1 degree) and then have a dynamic prop
A: (Joe) Cut a piece of
hinge and cut away part of a hing barrel to make a
hook for the hinge pin. See picture. This works best
if the 90 degree "handle" of the hing pin is longer.
RV-10 Pics ...togaflyer
4.5 years of building, three moves, and one
hurricane passing through during the build. Jonathan
at Evoke aviation worked with Lori on the design and
the paint job. His crew did an awesome job with sooo
much attention to detail. I did the windows the same
way they are installed in the Glasair Sportsman 2+2
and very pleased with the results. Special thanks to
Vic Babyak, who was always there to get me back on
track, and of course everyone on this site who all
had great advice
Downloadables Update on DIY Panel Project ...Ebbe
I have started to add details on the EFIS, how
the board and enclosures all are put together....I
will populate the other sections when I have more
Aileron Rigging Help ...mulde35d -14
So I installed the Flaps, Ailerons, and all
associated push pull tubes & bellcranks before
rigging the Ailerons IAW the manual and Jigs. The
left aileron rigged precisely with both the outer
edge W-00026 Jig seen here,
(4) New Mr. X Pics
...Mt. Ranier, Boeing Field and two
of Seattle. Start
Jul 30, 2019. Issue #4,879.
It had been (16) days since my last RV flight, but I finally got off the
surface for a few minutes Monday morning. Ahhhhhhhhhh!
Light rain in the area kept the temps out of the high nineties
for a bit - actually dipped a wing into the wet for a few
minutes just because. Looking over my right shoulder, I
was presented with shafts of sunlight in that beautiful
red-shifted morning light that makes anyone who sees it smile
and appreciate another of the many gifts these wonderful
airplanes give us. Wide perspective.
It is good to have an RV. Even better to fly it in these
conditions. We are a lucky bunch, we RVators.
Pics and Videos Starting to Show Up
OSH'19 Videos ...Brantel
EAA pics of OSH'19 Link Courtesy ...Kyle
OSH'19 Pics ...Bruce Hill
OSH'19 Blog Writeup ...Bruce Hill
"I'm On My Way" is apparently home safe ...Mark Albery post
Maybe this should be in the "Arrived safe from
Oshkosh" thread, but I see from the tracking that
you are safely back home.
It was great to meet you in California and sorry
that I missed you at Oshkosh.
The tracking just shows what you have achieved with
your self-built RV-8 in only a short few weeks.
You'll have some great memories.
Status Report ...rmartingt RV-7
Guess it's time for another update...
Wings are back off. Empennage fitted and removed,
flaps and ailerons rigged, rudder and elevators
fitted and removed. With luck the wings won't need
to go back on till I'm at the airport and a few
weeks from flying.
Fuel line routing to the selector is complete.
Somehow I managed it with pretty much no preload but
those lines right at the selector can't come out
unless I cut them out.
This setup does fit under the stock selector
enclosure (though the lines out to the pump don't)
and more importantly it avoids hard 90s on the
New Build Log Video ...Karetaker -7
Hello Group. I finally have some RV material now
on my You Tube channel and have posted a new Build
Log Video. The video shows the the wrap up of my
fuel tank build. I am building an RV7, but the
material may be useful for others. I try to post a
new video every weekend.
Mr. X Pic
'RV Social' Pics ...bruceh
A great time as always. Met up with several
builders who liked my web log. My daughter was
impressed that her Dad was "internet-famous",
whatever that means! <g>
Panel Status ...Latintan
9 months worth of work but it's
finally looking like an airplane!
Grass Strip PIREP ...Vlad
1NY3 Richland Airpark. My good buddy
Wade was vacationing on Lake Ontario shoreline and I
came to visit him. The closest airstrip to his
retreat was Richland Airpark 1NY3. Decent runway but
trees on approach to the north were overgrown. I
landed 18 and took off 36 worked good with winds
320/6kts. We went for a ride over the shoreline
Jul 29, 2019. Issue #4,878.
Home Safe PIREP ...Simon Hitchen
We made it home to Toronto in 3.5 hours, lots of
build ups to dodge at 7500'. Tailwind both to and
from Oshkosh this year. Gotta love that.
Great show, made some new friends. Happy days.
OSH'19 Award Winners ...Bruce
Annual arrived home safe from Osh thread ...Brantel starts it
Shantel and I arrived back at our home drone today at 16:30 Eastern.
The winds were not beneficial to or from Osh this year so no amazing times
to post this year.
Good weather on the flight home.
I need a real shower!
Milestone ...Jeff Parker RV-8
Tail feathers are mounted!
Initial Contact ...Brian C.
After a couple years of planning and research, we ordered our Empennage
kit Monday at Oshkosh. This forum has been a key tool during that process
and will be throughout our build. Thanks to everyone who made VAF what is
has become. Workspace is ready and tools are purchased/fabricated. Our saga
Bacon Saved - Airplane Mechanics Rock! ...Chris Pratt RV-8
I'll admit right up front that the problem was my fault. But the reason
for my posting is to thank Orin Baudette for saving my bacon and helping me
get back in the air when I was away from home base.
Left OSH PIREP and Data on DIY Panel ...Ebbe
As I left Oshkosh this morning, I had the following NEXRAD image on the
MFD. I never saw rain -- in the air or hitting the ground.
As per the recommendations, I don't paint level 0 and 1 (no precip), level
2=dark green, level 3=light green, level 4=yellow. It was definitely darker
at my 2-o-clock, where the yellow cell was, but I could not see any rain due
to the haze. I remember one airport reported virga though (ORD or possibly
What's your experience from your "real screens" and Foreflight showing
NEXRAD data and flying through the lightest level of echos?
Left OSH PIREP Numbers ...DanH
Left OSH late morning Wednesday. Dropped into NW Chicago (Lake In The
Woods) for some deep dish pizza (see the recent Pete Howell thread), then
non-stop back to Alabama.
Good opportunity to better quantify cruise speed loss. Turns out it's not
bad, perhaps 3 knots max. Here it's slightly LOP, where it would typically
clock about 183 true. The 16 lb package does make that wing heavy, but not
enough to bother the autopilot. Ball is in the center without changing the
normal bungee trim.
Cowl door shut, about 30 sq inches exit area.
"I'm On the Way..." Update ...SuperCubDriver
I actually left Thursday morning and took off at 7 am. The two Sault Ste
Maries were my custom airports and on the Canadian side I picked up my
stored emergency equipment. Thanks again Terry. Two student pilots were
awaiting me to help with the hangar and upcoming issues. A short talk in the
airport coffee and I was on my way again, La Grande Riviere CYGL. Enroute I
thought why stay there overnight when Iqualit is reporting fog the next
morning. So I just refueled and flew to Iqualit - another 4 hours. Man -
this was a long day, three landings with customs, refueling, flightplan
filing and long flights of course. Tomorrow I will be at the airport early
and as soon as the weather looks good I will head towards Greenland.
RV-4 Celebrates 40th as 'Grandfather of Fleet'
By Barbara A. Schmitz
July 23, 2019 - The RV-4 is celebrating its 40th
anniversary, and Van's Aircraft Founder Dick
VanGrunsven said the anniversary has made him
realize just how important the plane was in his life
and in the life of his company.
"It really established our company...and a lot of
what it demonstrated is included on everything we've
done since," Dick said at a Monday forum at EAA
AirVenture Oshkosh 2019. "The RV-4 is really the
grandfather of the whole fleet and a very
Jul 26, 2019. Issue #4,877.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
RV-8 Oshkosh Formation ...jjbardell
A view from 7th Heaven on the SE side of the
field. Amazing job guys! It looked incredible and
the routine was so smooth.
Designing and Testing the RV-12iS: Seminar
...Randy Lervold PIREP
I attended, it was a
very worthwhile presentation. Lot's of info on how
the 912iS is improved over the 912ULS, how they made
significant improvements in the entire installation
package as well as the fuselage portion of the
airframe, and how it effected the performance of the
aircraft. I was aware of most of it in less detail
so it served to reinforce my decision to build the
Though they've tried to communicate most of this via
their web site it is difficult to capture the level
of detail that you can in a presentation such as
this. Should they produce a video version of this
presentation with all the of the detail for those
interested? Yes, but that is a large undertaking.
One things that Rian also touched on that wasn't in
the presentation is that they are making continual
improvements, and he cited examples, many of which
are never announced. That's one of the things that
continues to impress me about Van's Aircraft,
continuous improvement is the sign of a healthy and
Mr. X Pic
...Corpus Christi from 17K. Flying north.
Status Report ...kentlik 7A Rebirthing
Followed Bullock on the co-pilot stick idea. I
hope I can get wires by it safely. I had this
ball hone left over from another life and it came in
RV Social PIREP ...DanH
Well, that was fun.
Given the weather Friday night and Saturday (and the
subsequent lack of Sunday arrivals), for a while I
was thinking there would be a lot of beer to split
between the 50 or so Friday arrival crews. However,
the sky cleared, the sun came out, and free beer is
a reliable magnet. In the end we used more than 500
name tags, and a lot of the crowd doesn't bother
with them, as they are already wearing ID. I'd guess
we had 600 guests through the evening, more or less.
The evening weather was perfect for the ninth year
in a row. Sure hope that statement isn't a jinx.
Next year we'll re-arrange the trailers and open
more taps, just to ease the crush during peak time.
First tap got pulled about 4:30. We ran out of beer
(eleven kegs), soft drinks (six cases), and water
(three cases), all about 9:30, which is perfect.
Thanks to Scott and Tanya for helping with clean-up.
Many of you refer to the Social as "Dan's party",
but it is not. I just arrange a few things and
change out the taps when the kegs run dry. The
Social happens because a group of loyal sponsors
make it so. Some have been sponsoring for decades,
Stein being a good example. Most of the current
sponsors have been in since the first at the Waukau
location; 2019 makes seven times. Thank 'em when you
Ok, so who has pictures? My phone was dead, but I
can host a few of yours.
Milestone: Pulled the Trigger!!! ...FloMo14Builder
After decades of planning and deliberations. I
finally pulled the trigger yesterday in the Vans
tent. I have ordered my tail kit...
I am tremendously excited to get started. I have met
many wonderful RV people the last couple of days. It
has been great getting to meet many of you in
person. I am looking forward to being even more
involved in this great community!
New Mothership Motor Mount Pics at Show ...johnbright
...John Bright pics
Jul 25, 2019. Issue #4,876.
Van's Banquet Pics from Tues ...Gary Sobek photos
Status Report: 7A ...jcarne
Ok I'm a little behind on posting
more on the rear skirt. She is pretty much done this
time and it came out beautiful on the second try!
Putting the micro on. This one didn't require much
filling at all. ...
HBC Corn Roast in Progress Wednesday! ...Scott Card photos
At OSH: PIREP ...airguy
I had a last-minute window open up to make the
trip, and we saddled up and were airborne out of
73XS just before 6am. A biological stop at KHIG and
on to Monroe WI KEFT to top off the main tanks and
arrive at KOSH with full tanks and empty bladder,
plan worked well. We got to Ripon about 1 pm and
only got spun out of the conga line twice, both
times for a cub that couldn't do more than about 75
knots in front of us. Landed 27 and taxied to HBC,
and spent the next couple hours sweating in 90
degrees and 90 percent humidity setting up camp.
Honeywell To Acquire TruTrak Flight Systems
-- Enables Honeywell access to experimental,
light-sport market, which has grown by double digits
over the past five years
-- Expands Honeywell's autopilot software offerings
through its BendixKing business, providing
affordable and reliable flight control systems
OSHKOSH, Wis., July 24, 2019 /PRNewswire/ --
Honeywell (NYSE: HON) has acquired privately held
TruTrak Flight Systems, a leader in autopilots for
experimental, light-sport and certified aircraft.
The acquisition will become part of Honeywell's
BendixKing business, helping to deliver affordable
technologies to the experimental and general
aviation markets. This market has grown by double
digits over the past five years.
"TruTrak is a natural fit with BendixKing, and this
acquisition opens up an exciting new market to us,"
said Carl Esposito, president, Electronic Systems at
Honeywell Aerospace. "It provides great technology
at affordable prices, which is central to
BendixKing's business. Furthermore, adding TruTrak
to the BendixKing family will attract new talent,
foster collaboration and help us identify new ways
to bring value to our customers."
"I'm On My Way" PIREP ...SuperCubDriver
Now the weather cleared up and the
temperatures came down for the show. I met many
friends and made new ones. But I didn't have much
time to walk around. Yesterday evening Tobias from
Germany showed up and said we will fly a formation
in the morning for breakfast to some place nearby. I
was hesitant because I'm not proficient in formation
flying and was afraid loosing my parking spot.
Anyhow we met at 6 am in the morning and briefed the
flight and I got an expert in the back seat and was
good with it. The flight was great, the breakfast in
Madison was good and I learned something again. But
believe me, during the flight I only saw this plane
beside me and two runways just prior landing -
Madison and Oshkosh. I need more training and will
then probably see a little more around me.
In the evening I was invited to the Vans banquet and
met many builders and the Vans crew I already met
three weeks ago. We all agreed that we are building
and flying the greatest kitplanes!
And now unfortunately I have to think about my
return flight and just checked the weather forecast
for Canada and Greenland and believe that leaving on
Thursday morning is best, will make a final decision
tomorrow and keep you updated.
Oil Filler / Cowl Flap Update ...crabandy
I did some flying today and got some intial
numbers. I used stabilized cruise with realitively
smooth air and utilizing the autopilot, I recorded 5
minute averages for speed, temps and pressures twice
open and twice closed. Lower cowling pressures were
obtained with a single picollo tube place vertically
at the bottom of the lower cowling attached to the
lower engine mount with the manometer plumber to the
static system and CHT's and TAS from the EFIS.
Opening the oil door drops the lower cowling
pressure approximately 60%, .65 in H2O @110 KIAS and
.85 in H2O at 146 KIAS.
LOP cruise was 161 KTAS with the door open and 164
KTAS with it closed.
Very little change in CHT's, avgerage was 3-5
degrees cooler with the door open. Oil temp was
about 1-2 degrees cooler.
I'll need a lot more flights to try and filter any
cooler climb out data. I need to check the pressure
directly underneath the cylinders to see if it
changes as much as the rest of the lower cowling
I did do 2 hot quick turns giving rides today
without a single hiccup during ground ops, it was
only 88* though.
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"Influential' RVs ...sjhurlbut starts the convo
I'm starting a project that I'd
like to keep under wraps for a bit.
But my question to the group is which RV was
influential in your decision to build an RV?
For me it was:
Sam Buchanan RV6 really one of the first websites
Vans original RV3
Doug Reeves RV6
And many more
But I'm curious for you old timers who was there
before you and motivated you? I'm not really looking
for resent builds but more the originals and that
paved the way for us.
Post pics maybe and I'll try compile a list.
Status Report: 7A Rebirthing ...kentlik
Working on hinges today.
Jul 24, 2019. Issue #4,875.
Red and Iron...
I spent 0515 - 1230 yesterday working an extra paper
route for college and life expenses, and while in
cruise had some time to reflect on the life and
accomplishments of NASA's first Flight Director,
Christopher Kraft. Mr. Kraft passed away on
the 22nd at the age of 95. The picture below
found online was taken during Gemini V. I took
my first breath while Gemini V was in orbit.
The early Mercury, Gemini and Apollo missions are of
great interest to me, and I've always looked up to
the men and women who pulled these missions off.
Chris Kraft on console pictured during Gemini V (August 1965)
Late last night after I heard that Mr. Kraft has
passed I went over to Kitplanes to see if our RV
friend Paul Dye, who sat in the same Flight Director
chair for a couple of decades as Iron Flight, had
had. Paul, that was a touching piece.
I enjoyed every word and am thankful to call you
Rest in Peace, Mr. Kraft. This citizen thanks
you for your NASA service, focus, leadership and
Navy friend of mine has said in the past, "The
Skipper sets the tone."
Meanwhile at the HBC pavilion on Sunday night: ...Paul from
We thought we'd do some product testing. That's
one Seven Stars light held at arms length above my
head. Our apologies to anyone down near the
trees that we might have woken up! We
did assist a few campers returning from the loos by
turning night into day for them ...and then
ungraciously plunging them back into darkness!
Six Cylinder pMag in hand ...Carl Froehlich
Brad handed over a six cylinder pMag and install
kit at Oshkosh today. This is a trail unit for what
will be the main production run.
It looks like the long road to a six cylinder pMag
is finally behind us.
Osh Laundry Pirep ...Brantel
FYI, the laundromat behind the Super 8 at the
North gate is awesome as far as laundromats go! Very
easy to get to.
Might help those that endured the storms and mud!
Dealing with Top Wing Sking Nutplates ...common mistakes solved
On my wing kit (circa 2007) the #8 holes are
countersunk not dimpled. Unless that has changed you
have the wrong nutplate in hand. There is probably
enough room to drill the correct hole to #19 and
rivet the nutplate on with only one rivet. After
drilling and countersinking the correct hole I think
the holes will be close but you will be fine. The
single rivet only has to hold it in place long
enough to start tightening the countersunk screw for
the wing root fairing. The wing root fairing is pre
punched so you need the #19 hole to line up
correctly. In the picture below I'm holding a #19
bit next to the hole you accidentally drilled.
(flion) Common error. I would go with a backup
strip. Make sure it goes under the entire nutplate
and maybe to the next rivet hole (I seem to recall
you can only do that in one direction because ot the
spar). Drill the rivet locations and the correct
screw locations. Then clamp it in place and fill the
incorrectly drilled hole with structural epoxy.
Smooth the epoxy and re-drill the rivet hole when it
is cured. The epoxy will be more than strong enough,
with the backup strip and a rivet, to hold the
nutplate in place (the main job of that rivet) and
the repair will be invisible once painted (or when
the wing root fairing is in place).
Thanks a lot Ben and Patrick for the solution, I
drilled the correct hole to #19, countersunk and
tried with the correct nutplate this time ! It works
fine as per your picture. I will think about the
RV-8A in the News
Jul 23, 2019. Issue #4,874.
I was eating TexMex with Ross and Chris Monday and we were going around
the table on the things keeping us from OSH'19. Usual
reasons anyone could relate to: budgetary, calendar
conflicts with family commitments, and in Chris' case hail
damage on his wife's car requiring $$$. We made up a term
for people like us, who would normally go but for various
reasons couldn't escape the gravitational influence of their
I hope all you non-oshdodgers at the show are having a great
time! Looking forward to the PIREPs and pictures down the
The RV Social (Monday 5pm)
Tanya Card photo.(enlarge)
One more pic from the social
CREWRV8 2019 Video ...lucaperazzolli
First of all let me say that it's very hard not
to be in Oshkosh this year, I'm seeing all you
guys having fun but VAF threads and other social
stuff give me the opportunity to live the
days...with the feet dry
My buddy and wingman Franz is riding around
Wittman Field and he'll be very happy to meet as
much friends as possible, you'll find him at all
the VAF events.
I put together a mix of our recent videos with
different camera positions and I (we) hope
you'll enjoy it.
If you are at the show say HI to all the family
in my name !
Cleanup of 83282 hydraulic fluid?
Q: This stuff seems impervious to
petroleum based solvents - what to use to clean
from firewall and floors?
A: Non-chlorinated brake cleaner. Used to
use Trichlorethelyne as a solvent for hydraulic
analysis testing. But, that stuff is muy mal!
Non-chlorinated brake cleaner is about the
closest off the shelf product that is the least
harmful to humans, pets and aircraft. Just be
careful with it on your paint job, it can dull
Panel Porn ...kentlik
A big thank you to Bruce Swayze for supplying
me with an 819 AN-6D sleeve! I was stuck
and gave him a call and he had one! Looked to be
from his test parts, all perfect and in a safe
place. I will have to get him a replacement when
Van's opens in a half hour.
His plane is almost done and it looks fantastic!
HBC Sunday Beer Tasting PIREP ...scard
It happened, and was epic as usual! There
were more than enough of us to have a quorum. I
didnít notice that anything was amiss . Yeah,
there are a lot of us here
Beer has been consumed from about 4 full tubs
and last I looked it had not all been drunk.
Raise your hand if you tarnished perfectly good
ice with coors light! The local DOT has some
roadway repair materials for you to roll in. .
Mistake top wing skins nutplates holes 16-2 ...YankeeBravo
I managed to drill #19 the wrong hole (center
one) for the only special nutplate at the wing
root just behind the stiffener... What could be
the best fix ? I thought of using a standard
nutplate but the rivet holes do not match
Thanks in advance !
RV-8 and the WAAAM ...Steve Rush vid
Saturday 7/20/19 was one of the first
cloudless days we have had in weeks. It was nice
to have the clouds gone, but we paid the price
via higher temperatures (though nothing like
what the eastern 2/3 of the country are
We decided to head down to Hood River Oregon to
visit the Western Antique Airplane and
Automobile Museum (WAAAM). It is a large
collection of old cars, airplanes, motorcycles
and other stuff. There are dozens of airplanes
and just as many cars. Most all of the airplanes
are flyable and they do fly them from time to
time. Many of the items on display do not
actually belong to the museum and are just on
loan for display.
Garmin Aviation Job Fair at Oshkosh 2019 ...g3xpert
We are always looking for talented people to
join Garmin and the Aviation division is
particularly interested in those with a passion
What better place to look for those people than
EAA Airventure Oshkosh 2019!
We will be attending the Aviation Job Fair on
Wednesday, July 24th from 5:30 p.m. to 7:30 p.m
at the EAA Forums Pavilion #8 building.
Below is a list of positions for which we are
We look forward to seeing you there.
-Embedded Software Engineers
-Electrical Engineering Technicians
-Systems/Systems Test Engineers
-Avionics Installation Technicians
-Aviation Product Support
-Aviation Technical Writers
-Flight Test Engineer
Jul 22, 2019. Issue #4,873.
Spent the weekend trying to stay cool, like a lot of folks.
Saturday house stuff and Sunday Mass, work and watching
airplanes fly NE up to OSH on my iPad. The grab below from
around 1130am Sunday. I *think* this is an accurate
depiction of what some would call 'market penetration' <g>.
It's great to see so many RVs headed to the show, and I hope everyone
going has a wonderful, safe and enjoyable time. I've been
reading the difficulties folks have been having getting in with
the wet conditions and all. Careful in that furball!
RV-specific happenings listed below (will stay there all week).
Annual arrived at Osh safe thread
OSH'19 Picture Links and PIREPs ...for when you get 'um.
Brantel's Wife is Vlogging from the show
Initial Contact ...Tony
I am planning on a quick build RV-8A. I want to build in
my basement. The basement is large but trying to figure out
if I can get the large quick build sections into and out of
the basement. Does anyone know the dimensions of the
fuselage and wings so that I can experiment on manoeuvring
in and out.
I do have a double garage but the climate is better in the
Any advice to help me get started is appreciated
Ebbe's DIY One Of A Kind DIY Panel Project ...update
[ed. You're going to
want to get a napkin for the drool before you click
on this. v/r,dr]
"I'm On My Way" Update ...SuperCubDriver
From Kalamazoo I flew to Michigan City KMGC for
some patterns. So easy here, no landing fees and not showing
up to show the documents, just leave and head for the next
destination, Naper LL10. Here I was invited by Paddy (see
post #6). Jim let me use his hangar and tools for a 100h
inspection. I did not expect to fly that much but now I'm
ready for my final destination Oshkosh - and home! He also
invited me to stay in his house and he and his wife provided
everything for me to keep going these days - thanks Jim. He
is planning a trip over the Atlantic very soon so I could
tell some of my experience I made so far. Thursday evening
we flew together around Chicago city in his RV-10 and I was
very impressed how this thing flies. Very quiet and of
course a little heavier on the controls than my RV-8, but so
also a better IFR plattform.
Then on Friday morning I made "My Flight to Oshkosh". What a great
feeling to come this long way and land the plane I built in
Oshkosh. I was immediately greeted by my neighbors and felt
Late in the evening storms were active northwest of Oshkosh and moving
in. Fortunately they throw most of the bad things out before
reaching the field so nothing bad happened.
No.4 Cylinder Shuts Down at Idle
Hi all. I have an IO 360 (350 hrs) that started
backfiring at idle when warm. I went through those threads.
i saw a little fuel/oil on the inlet manifold of number 2
cylinder so took it for an engine run to see if i could see
anything about that cylinder.
Once warm at idle it began back firing again. But after
about 30 seconds the backfiring stopped and the EGT and CHT
of number 4 cylinder dropped away and the backfire stopped.
So at least i think i can isolate the backfiring to number 4
cylinder because it stopped when the cylinder stopped.
Any thoughts on the most likely problem? Blocked injector?
7A Rebirthing PIREP ...kentlik
I am done with the darn fuel lines...almost. Missing one
819-6D fuel line sleeve! Can't believe it...all the same I
am moving on to repair of large cut-outs in the first
bulkhead behind the avionics panel then adding the hinges to
the lower portions of the firewall etc...
No OSH This Year: Found Metal in the Filter ...lr172 (6A)
Did an oil change yesterday and after cutting open the
filter, found a good bit of metal. All thin, long slivers.
When held on the side of the jar by the magnet, the slivers
form a circle the size of a quarter.
Pretty sure it's the cam, but can't be certain. Stuck a
borescope in the mag hole and idler gear and crank gear look
good. Because I can't rule out the oil pump gears, I have
decided not to do the Osh flight tomorrow. Looks like I will
be pulling the engine and tearing down instead.
Charity Cap Sighting ...Anthony
All the cool sharks are doing it...
It Can Be Done (Building In Your Basement)
...many new pics
Jul 19, 2019. Issue #4,872.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend. For
those of you traveling to OSH, fly safe and we can't wait to
read your travel PIREPs and see your photos when you get back!!!
I have a couple of extra paper routes sched'd over the next week
for some extra family $$$, so I'm looking forward to hearing
about the show and seeing those pics! Speaking of extra
paper routes, Thursday morning I repositioned an aircraft from
one side of DFW to the other, and while getting some gas saw a
B-24 taxi by me (pic).
Those four engines sounded sweet.
Hope everyone going has a wonderful time.
New Garmin GNC 355 GPS/COM, July 2019...g3xpert
Garmin TeamX brings new features to
the G5 electronic flight instrument
and the G3X Touch flight display
Advanced Flight Systems News ...Rob
The RV-10 is loaded and ready to depart to
Oshkosh. There will be a number of booths at
AirVenture where you can see an AF-5000 EFIS and our
Advanced Control Module with Electron Circuit
Breakers this year:
AOPA Booth - Sweepstakes RV-10 with an Aerosport
Carbon Fiber panel with three EFIS screens.
MGL releases MX1 EFIS at Oshkosh
Proof of RV Enjoyment
...Vlad installment. "That's what happens
to the shiny rod ends after 7 years of being under
OSH Webcams are HOT
Quirky Stuff Seen From The Air ...Bayou Bert
...LIGO (trust me.....it's cool).
Rebirthing Update ...kentlik -7A
I just got back on it after an extended run of
film jobs. I need to get a few fuel lines sorted and
I can get back to stuff that I want to do.
Milestones ...Chris Pratt -8
Maybe I'm just sentimental, but as I just passed
800 hours on the airplane I built, it gave me pause
to think about some of the great memories this
airplane has helped create. Of course my first
thought was, "why has it taken so long to put 800
hours on this machine?" But I know why, life gets in
the way. Yet when I think of all the places I've
visited, people I've given first rides, new friends
I've made, and just plain fun I've had (no pun
intended), it makes me realize how lucky I've been
and what a unique experience it is to build and fly
your own airplane. God bless all the builders out
there, you're a very special group.
Jul 18, 2019. Issue #4,871.
If there are any model-specific gatherings forming up, can those
folks planning them get the date/time/location to me so I can
add it to the list I'm compiling below?
N435MD Has Its New Paint Job
...pics taken 7/17 at
Aircraft Painting (52F) by me - happened to have
the 'good' camera with me. Plane will be
featured at the Lycoming tent at OSH.
See all the
Eagle's Nest Projects - Mallory Rhodes landing at
Eagle's Nest Projects - Montgomery HS (TX)
July 17, 2019
Mallory Rhodes, Eagle's Nest RV-12iS builder and EAA
Ray Scholarship Winner (Conroe Chapter 302) will be
flying into Oshkosh 2019 in the airplane that she
and her classmates recently built at Montgomery High
School (RV-12iS). Mallory will be arriving Sunday
morning in a Montgomery 2-ship RV-12 flight. Joe
Waltz, President of EAA 302 and ENP Project
Director, will be in her right seat providing all
the nuances she'll need for a first time arrival
into OSH. Listen for N924EN.
You're Invited - Over the week of OSH, Eagle's Nest
projects will have 6-7 aircraft on display in the
area adjacent to the Homebuilder's Hangar.
Build-Students will be on hand to answer questions
about their personal experience, their build, and
likely a bit of mixed-in entertainment to make your
day. Look forward to seeing ya OSH.
Motivation 101 ...ackselle
Great sun in the evening for some A2A pics...
RV-6A brake rotors part number and normal thickness. ...WingnutWick
Was told that these were worn too thin by a local
mechanic. Anyone know the part number for these
rotors and the normal thickness of them? I don't
know if it matters but attached is the brake
assembly part number.
Status Report: FLIGHT!!!! ...RV7ForMe
Well, I did say "a lot has
After my excitement with the Cessna we were actually
getting ready for first flight of my buddies RV-7A
that I spend almost a year working on. New tail
feathers, Canopy, complete FWF with new engine, new
paint and a lot of cable replacement to get those
shiny G3X touch displays to work properly. I had a
lot of fun. I know it will help me when I get to
that stage with my own RV. Second time is always
As you can image the past event only added to the
pressure that come with first flight of a home build
airplane. We actually cancelled the first flight 3
times before it finally happened on 9th of June.
Flight was uneventful with only minor squawks. We
have about 18h and counting by now. Oil consumption
is much lower than anticipated. She only used 1qt in
the first 15 hours. We will change to regular oil
This is a mostly stock RV7-A with VAN's IO360 with
CS with a full Garmin G3X panel.
SE-XTO RV-14 First Flight ...control (Sweden)
After a little more than five
years of building it was finally time
will report to Vans tomorrow
TECH SUPPORT UNAVAILABLE DURING AIRVENTURE/OSHKOSH
As is the case each year at this time, our technical
support crew is traveling to Oshkosh, Wisconsin for
AirVenture 2019. They'll be on-hand with other Van's
staff members to talk with attendees in person at
Booth 604 in the North Aircraft Display area.
As a result, Van's builder technical support service
will be closed starting Friday, July 19th and will
remain closed until we reopen on Tuesday, July 30th,
after we return from Oshkosh.
Please come see us at the booth, and keep on
Initial Contact ...Karl in Switzerland
"I'm On My Way" Update ...SuperCubDriver
On Saturday I flew around New York
and my first landing was at Brookhaven HWV on Long
Island where I visited the airport cafe. Then did
some more flying without a real destination. Looked
up the accomodations in Foreflight at several
airports and decided to fly to Reading KDRG for the
next layover. The FBO there provided the hotel
transfer and a good discount at a suggested hotel. I
spent myself one day off there as I run out of
destinations, Oshkosh being very close. I remembered
Miles here on VAF offered a place to stay and so I
gave him a call. He was good with me flying over the
next day and when I arrived at his hangar home he
had organized a barbeque at his hangar and around 20
or 30 people, most of them pilots, came together to
greet me and for some airplane talk. Miles has a
beautifully restored C-170 and is building a RV-7
(see pic). And Goatflieg, if you have some more
pictures I would like to see them here.
When I taxied in a guy in a neighbor hangar realized
my German registration, came over and invited me to
see his shop. They are restoring a B-25 there,
didn't expect this there.
This morning Miles suggested to fly to Kalamazoo
KAZO which I did. Another museum with some nice
warbirds and restoration work going on. I parked
right in front of the museum and was greeted by the
Jul 17, 2019. Issue #4,870.
Item: If there are any model-specific gatherings forming up, can those
folks planning them get the date/time/location to me so I can
add it to the list below?
N748PK first flight ...Kurt Haller 9A
Yup, it finally happened:
Van's Aircraft Annual AirVenture Banquet
Nature Center Pavilion
Tuesday July 23rd at 6:00 PM
SPEAKERS: Air Show Announcer and RV pilot Rob
Reider, and Redline's Ken Reider
GIVEAWAYS: We will draw names from all the
attendees to give away some great gifts from Garmin,
Dynon and others
Camping Checklist ...suggested things to throw in your RV
...Paul Gray entry.
quart size ziplock bag of
ant poison granules
I too have a checklist of items made up over time.
When preparing to head out, I go over the list and
take the things I'll need/use on that trip. One
thing that hasen't been mentioned is a quart bag of
ant poison granules. I set up my tent once and was
apparently over an ant super hwy. They were
everywhere and I had to shakedown everything and
move the tent. REAL PITA! Now I take the poison and
spread it around where I'll be pitching the tent. So
far no more ants.
...Mashy at 52F. Found on the
runway 7/16. Good stuff.
FS: Scott Hersha's RV8
Quick Build (QB) or Standard Build
Slider or Tip Up: Slider
Asking Price: $125,000.00
Corrosion or CORROSION?
I am in the process of purchasing a 2008 RV10 QB
kit that has been stored in an unheated hangar. Here
in the Midwest, unheated buildings can generate a
fair amount of condensation during our annual
As a newbie, I have no criteria for normal
weathering versus corrosion. So I'm looking for some
educated opinions from those of you with some
Some of the skins have areas of very slight pitting.
Most are roughly the diameter of grains of salt. A
few are small rashes, the diameter of dimes or
quarters, that don't feel like they have any depth.
Is this normal for unpainted aluminum? Will this get
removed with the typical prep before paint?
Similarly, some of the white powder-coated metal
fittings have slight rust stains on them. Again, is
that normal, or will I end up replacing anything
that shows any sign of rust?
Here is a link to photos of some of the areas.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
RV Social Update ...DanH
Less than a week to go! The long term weather
report for Monday evening is marvelous...70's, 50%
humidity, low rain chance. Hopefully I won't jinx it
with that report, but just in case, the old lady
asked me to remind everyone the RV Social is a
rain-or-shine event. So, worst case, pull on your
wet weather gear and come on over. We'll cozy up
under the big Gallagher tent, maybe even drag a beer
trailer in with us.
Quick note; there are eleven kegs to enjoy. With
four taps on two trailers, it means I need to change
each tap to a fresh keg at least once, and most
twice. Last year someone started the rumor we were
out of beer after a tap or two failed to deliver.
Darned shame, as there were (I think) two kegs
remaining, and drinking them would have been a whole
lot cheaper than going to SOS. So, when a tap runs
dry, find me! Or recruit a few buddies, chant "Beer,
beer, BEER!" and I'll find you.
Get a name tag when you arrive. Look for the picnic
table. It's about putting names with faces.
Speaking of which, most of our sponsors will be
right there in the crowd. Don't miss the opportunity
to meet the folks who support your passion (and your
party). Obtaining help and ordering products is
always better when you know the person on the other
end of the line.
Gallagher Insurance (Jenny and the Agents of Vroom )
Barrett Precision Engines (Rhonda and Monty Barrett)
Continental/Titan (James Ball, aka JB)
Delta Pop Aviation (Don Pansier)
Flightlines (Tom Swearengen)
Flyboy/Team Rocket (Vince and Blake Frazier)
JD Air (Darwin Barrie)
Kitplanes Magazine (Paul Dye and Marc Cook)
Lycoming/Thunderbolt (Jeff Schans)
SteinAir (Stein and the Gang)
TruTrak (Andrew Barker)
Panel Progress PIREP
Jul 16, 2019. Issue #4,869.
Howdy howdy! Here in the next few days I'll compile a final list of
RV events happening at OSH'19 and will feature it here on the
front page for easy reference through the end of the show.
Gigantic capital 'H' is parking itself over Texas all week, so
we're expecting 100*F shortly. Hello heat!
Scorch Positive Rate 7/15 52F
I Think my RV-6 Build Log Cost Maybe a Dollar
A stroll down memory lane. A
grid I worked up in MS Word. Made some
photocopies at my old job. Printed some
pictures. Three ring notebook I found in the
trash at same old job. If memory serves Mel
looked at the whole thing for about three potatoes
and went back to checking flight controls during my
inspection. Recently I took my phone out and
took pics of each page so I could
upload it to this cloud folder (in SmugMug
and in Google photos). Redundancy. ;^) I
don't think I spent more than ten seconds recording
each work session.
My favorite pic from the log is
below. Wings, fuse, engine, fuse jig,
lawnmower and a little shelf hanging from the garage
ceiling (made from the fuse crate) with the motor
mount and canopy. Susie's '89 Volvo 240DL
still fit. Final fit/finish at Jay's RV
Central. I miss that car. Our first new
one - the payments were $309.77.
Correction....my favorite pics are
those with Audrey and Tate in them. ;^)
12/19/2000 entry: "Audrey
bucks first rivet (fuselage skins)."
My .02 regarding the whole build log thing (using
Stein's words) is to not sweat the build log too
much. Quick and dirty with the least amount of
effort satisfies the DAR.
I leave the notebook in the baggage
area. I look at it about once every three
Mr. X New Pics ...Philly and NYC from FL41
AOPA 2020 Sweeps Airplane Is An RV-10
RV/IAC Aerobatic Competition Standings
Galen Killam took a fourth place
at the Michigan Open this past weekend. That has
secured him a second place in the overall standings.
Well done Galen!
Quirky Things Seen From The Air in Your RV
Lost Lake Montana
So there we were, cruising across the plains of
Montana just south of the Missouri Breaks, admiring
the jaw dropping beauty of a landscape spattered
with both rain and sun, when we came upon this:
My jaw dropped even further. I know just enough
geology to know a waterfall when I see it, and this
is a big one......250 feet tall and a half mile
wide. The obvious problem....where is the river? The
Missouri River is more than 20 miles away. It turns
out that this is yet another of the glacial
artifacts that fill our northern landscape, as the
Missouri was once dammed by ice and cut through
these plains, carving these magnificent but dry
Jul 15, 2019. Issue #4,868.
Hope you had a nice weekend. The Wx here cooperated in our
area Saturday, so many of us got to RVate a bit. Sunday
the clouds from 'Barry'
kept big areas of TX in the shade, and the temps a little lower.
Hope our RV friends around New Orleans didn't get any lasting
damage. If you did, please let know how we can help!
Milestone: Paint Finished Osh Bound
Stuck Exhaust Valve Lycoming IO-360 ...mjanduda
I just wanted to share some pictures of an IO-360
cylinder with a stuck exhaust valve. The
cylinder was flown on a charter Cessna 172S (AVGAS
only). The valve has failed well before TBO.
What do you think? I'm not super knowledgeable
about engines but for me it looks like it was flown
with a very rich mixture!?
Joined "RV-12 500 Club" earlier today! ...PilotBrent
5 years and six months. She is
flying better today than on her maiden flight.
Returning to OSH next week to visit her friends.
Hopefully will see many of you there too.
Garmin G3X Wiring Fundamentals Series...Garmin videos
This was linked in a separate
thread, but I wanted to post the link to the entire
Garmin G3X Wiring Fundamentals playlist available
from our Aviation Training team on YouTube.
This series provides some great how-to videos on
basic wiring fundamentals that are sure to be
helpful in your avionics wiring harness build
Going for the worst builder award ...Flying Canuck
This 2 week adventure that I'm on with son has
been one problem after another. My current roster of
Lost all brake fluid right side - broken flare
Lost right brake - leaking o-ring
Flat right tire - under inflated
Lost both brakes - misassembly right and leaking
Flaky Skyview network - cause unknown
Stranded at no service airport- can't start, melted/
broken starter cable
The last one happened late this afternoon at
International Peace Garden airport after we cleared
back into Canada. Up in Brandon now will source a
new cable tomorrow with the assistance of the local
flying club. This was only a 55 minute flight from
our planned stop and the day had gone so well.
I know these are not all my fault but enough of them
are that I'm feeling like I am a shoe in for worst
builder of the year.
Oh well, it's only time, money and pride, don't have
much left of any of them. The hair isn't far behind.
I put the amateur in amateur built.
The rest of the big trip experience has been
awesome. It's a great way to travel.
Build Status Report ...N804RV
I figured its time to update this
thread. Family medical and career issues got in the
way of my building. But, I've been back at it for
awhile now. Q/B wings were acquired from an
abandoned kit. and some progress has been made.
I got my slow build fuselage in November. And, have
been trying to do something on it every day, at
least the 4 days a week that I'm not shlepping back
and forth to Seattle to do 12 hour shifts.
The Q/B wings still don't have
bottom outboard skins riveted on, or the wing tip
fiberglass work complete. But, I took delivery of
the slow-build fuselage in November. And, I'm
focusing all my build time in making progress on
that. Wings and fiberglass work I'll finish later.
Since I bought SmokeyRay's "Ultimate 1835 Sonerai
IIL" I've also been getting more flight time. Which
is a great morale booster for those days when the
rivet-gun is kicking my arse, or the RV plans and
drawings have ignited an uncontrolled helmet fire.
Joining the forward and center sections of the
cockpit for the first time was a big thrill. Can't
wait to see that aluminum canoe take shape!
OSH'19 Demo Panel ssokol (VAF advertiser)
Alaska:; The Rest of the Story and Costs ...texdog
After two nights in Grande Prairie
at Judies favorite FBO, Happy Gas, we had a window
to depart at 2 PM. Grande Praire was good VFR but a
lot of showers around Calgary. We couldn't get past
the rain and had to return to Edson, 50 extra miles,
refuel and try again. The weather lifted west of
Calgary and we made it to Lethbridge. We got one of
the last motel rooms because of a soccer tournament.
The motel owner said, "don't expect much and you
won't be disappointed". He was right but it was a
bed not a hangar floor.
Early departure the next morning for Cutbank, Mt.,
good old USA. Customs had been very easy and
accomadating. I filed an e-APIS three days before
and never had to file again because of weather
delays. I did call every day. 1.5 hrs. to clear
customs because they were training someone. We
helped a couple that were ferrying a C-172 to Alaska
and told them the weather was good enough to get to
Lethbridge, 700 overcast and 10 miles. Departed
Cutbank with hopes of Billings, Mt. or Buffalo, Wy.
didn't happen, snow and 2 miles visibility on June
7. We did make it to Miles City, Mt. for fuel and
off again, couldn't go direct anywhere low ceilings
with rain. I had a FBO in Wyoming for 10 years and
knew the country well so we headed for Crazy Woman
VOR, my favorite place. We made it around Pumpkin
Buttes and headed for Torrington, Wy. good fuel stop
and a dog named Fred, who I've know for 10 years.
Holiday Inn has a shuttle and it's next to a truck
stop with a restaurant and a bar. Left Trrington
early Sunday stopped in Denver to visit a sick
friend over night. Front Range is the place in
Denver, $5.00 overnight and rent car right away and
I never talked to approach.
Left early Monday to get home. Stopped in Borger, Tx.
for fuel and lunch. Free crew car and a great
hamburger. Taxi out and start runup and Judie says
smoke in the cockpit, she was right there was smoke
in the cockpit. Taxi back, take the cowling off, 90
degrees outside, can't see anything. I do a test
flight and can't replicate the problem, so I land
pickup Judie and we are on our last 2 hour leg home
to Fredericksburg, Tx. I make a great landing, but
the airplane won't roll, flat tire on right main. I
see a friends hangar open and call him, they bring a
dolly and tow bar and 15 minutes later we are in the
hangar. No damage and the smoke probably came from
me checking the oil and dribbling a little oil on
the exhaust stack.
The bottom line how much did it cost? We stayed with
friends in Anchorage, no hotel cost, however we ate
out a lot so the food cost were higher. We didn't
camp at all. The hotel at Kennicott was expense,
$300.00 a night, but worth it for two nights. Here
is the breakdown, Judie kept very good receipts and
records. All numbers have been calculated for good
ole American dollars.
Fees Nav Canada 17.64
Hangar and tie downs 267.00
Rent cars and taxi 749.00
Grand total $5,852.64
We didn't include our survival vest or contents,
they can be reused. Would we do it again, absolutely
Quirky Things Seen From The Air Entry ...Vlad
Zuni Salt Lake.
"I'm On My Way" ...PIREP
Finally Bill and I made it to
Whitted KSPG on Wednesday morning for breakfast,
wheather at this time is not really perfect and
Florida seems to be influenced by the depression
over the Gulf of Mexico. I got a nice shot in the
air over the Skyway Bridge just south of Whitted.
Then today in the morning I left Brooksville, flew
south around Orlando and did a low approach over Rwy
33 at the Nasa Shuttle Landing Facility, then headed
towards Barnwell KBNL in South Carolina, refueled
and flew on to Dare Co Rgnl KMQI for an overnight
Bill - if you read this, thanks again for taking
care and your hangar.
Tomorrow I intend to hop over to First Flight and be
on this memorable place where the Wright brothers
did their very first flights. From there I will head
north and probably will set down in the New York
area for another night stop.
"I'm On My Way" ...and another!
As planned, I hopped over to First Flight KFFA.
During the night it was raining but it cleared up in
the morning and so walking this memorable place was
possible. It was only 116 years ago and now we are
building our own airplanes again!
As I am not 100 percent fit on Foreflight and the
Stadium TFR on the Hudson River showed red I was
unsure what to do. I called Flight Service but they
only said the TFR will be active from one hour
before the event and this might change. So I flew
towards New York with flight following and when
descending towards the Hudson SFRA I made sure the
corridor is open. It was so great that I flew the
corridor three times and circled the Statue of
Liberty - very impressive. No way in Europe to fly
in such a congested airspace without a clearance!
Finally landed in Danbury KDXR where I met a
classmate of my wife and was invited for dinner, my
first meal of the day!
Restoration Project - Final Stretch
The RV-5 was an engineering design
exercise, one with specific purposes in mind. The
RV-5 was never intended to be a commercially
available model, and several things Van learned from
this design influenced subsequent model designs. A
team of volunteers has been restoring the RV-5,
which has not flown in many years, to airworthy
status. It's a unique and true piece of RV history.
Jul 12, 2019. Issue #4,867.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
8A owner and usual 52F suspect Kay
enjoying Texas skies.
PIREP Roll Bar and Canopy Placement Options
...David Paule -3B
It finally sank in that this is the time to
install the roll bar. Well, build and install the
roll bar. But until the canopy is on, I didn't know
just how high to make it. And the canopy can't go on
until the tailcone top is on. A chicken and egg
Then I realized that one excellent option was to
make it per the SK-54A drawing, and take whatever I
get for installed height. Okay, plan A. Obviously I
needed a Plan B or else Plan A is just a Plan. I
brought the canopy home and laid it on the fuselage
and started measuring things.
Oil Temp reading low
I am not sure this is a normal failure mode but
my oil temp in the middle of a flight went from
reading 190 to 145 and then stayed there.
I found the nut holding the sender wire ring
terminal loose. I tightened it up thinking problem
solved. Well next flight oil temperature still
reading abnormally low basically 50 degrees lower
than what is actual.
At this point I am guessing an new sender is in
order, it has never given me any issues.
Has anyone seen this failure mode before, what did
you find was the problem. I also have a CHT that has
started to act funny, checked that it was seated in
the mount but at this point it is very intermittent.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Mike "Nemo" Elliott
Fiberglass Skirt Update ...jcarne
Fiberglass work continues on the rear skirt.
First I popped it off and trimmed the edges. Don't
do anything with that tape just yet though, more to
Tip: I'm not sure how you guys and gals are doing it
but I have found that skipping any wax and PVA and
laying up right on top of clear packing tape has
always resulted in the EASIEST way to pop the
fiberglass off (easier than when I used to use wax).
Seriously the part releases so well it's satisfying
to watch. However, disregard that comment if you are
doing fiberglass in molds, different ballgame as I
Are RV's indoor-only planes? ...a conversation
I just put up the following comment at the
tail-end of an existing thread about the Pro's and
Con's of RV ownership, but I hope the moderators
won't mind if I start this as a new thread, because
I'd really like to hear if there are people out
there who agree or disagree with the idea that RV's
are pretty much indoor-only planes - i.e., planes
really made to be kept in hangars rather than
outside. Here's my comment:
"IMO, the biggest "con" of RV ownership has not been
mentioned yet, which is that if you get an RV you
are most likely going to want to keep it in a
hangar. This is a very significant expense, which
cuts into all the other savings you achieve by
acquiring an RV. There is a well-known poster on
this forum who keeps his non-painted, polished
aluminum RV outside, with a cover over the cabin
area only I believe, apparently without a huge
amount of obvious deterioration, so I suppose it can
be done. But I think most owners of nicely painted
and cared-for RVs keep them inside because they
recognize keeping them outside will significantly
degrade their aircraft's appearance and condition
over time. In contrast, if you buy a production
aircraft that, in many cases, has already been
living outside for years, you are not going to
suffer much incremental deterioration by continuing
to leave it outside, and it costs a heck of a lot
less than paying for a hangar. I'm happy with the RV
I've owned for 20 years, but think prospective
owners should be aware of and carefully consider
this expense. I would be interested to hear the
comments of people who have experience keeping them
outside. Maybe there are some who disagree that RV's
are generally made to live inside?"
Sky Designs Aluminum RV-8 Legs at OSH ...VAF advertiser
those of you who might be interested in airfoil
aluminum main gear legs for your RV-8, Sky Designs
will be bringing a couple kits to AirVenture.
This is not only an opportunity for you to save the
cost of crating and shipping, but an opportunity to
see 'em, touch 'em, taste 'em before you buy.
Ken Krueger - Aircraft Designer
Gas Gun and Other Under-wing Things ...DanH
The first of two related under-wing projects is a
gas gun, aka a "machine gun simulator" in the
military reenactor and movie prop worlds. The basic
operating principle is simple enough. A timer board
controls two solenoid valves and an ignition coil.
Oxygen and propane are vented into a chamber, the
solenoids close, the coil fires, and the result is a
shock wave at the tip of the barrel. There is no
projectile, just noise and muzzle flash.
Propane supply is typically one of the standard 1
lb, 4" dia bottles from the camping department.
Overall, they are low pressure canisters full of
liquid, with actual pressure linked to temperature.
High pressure oxygen is a bit more involved. The
bottle is charged to 2000 psi, just like breathing
oxygen. In this case, I selected a new M6 size
bottle, 3.2" dia and 11" long, plus valve.
The regulators are new Victor G150's, modified by
changing some of the fittings, plus removing the
high pressure gauge and plugging the port. The gas
regulator requires an adapter between the propane
bottle and the regulator inlet. The propane bottle
must be upright so only vapor reaches the outlet;
liquid propane shuts down the gun, as the mixture is
too rich. I found a 45 degree bottle angle was
practical, then assembled fittings and a 1/4 turn
valve so as to put the regulator alongside the
bottle, inside the taper of the aeroshell's tail.
The O2 bottle can be ordered with a CGA-540 outlet
valve so it will couple directly to the Victor
regulator. The required transfill hose has male
CGA-540 fittings at both ends fill the bottle from a
shop oxygen tank.
July/August 2019 issue of FAA Safety Briefing
focuses on aviation safety culture. Feature articles
focus on what a sound safety culture is and explore
ways you can integrate those principles into your
everyday flying and airman duties. We'll also look
at the many FAA and industry tools available to help
you build your own personal safety culture.
Garmin OSH Seminar Sched
RV-10 Wing For Sale PIREP
...got the wings on the wing stand Thursday.
Cleaning has begun so I can do the 'photo shoot'.
DID YOU KNOW insurance guidelines are tightening ...VAF
In one of our previous posts, we explained how
insurance premiums are like a roller coaster. We
also touched on some of differences between a hard
market and a soft market. Now that we are in a hard
market, we've started to notice the underwriter
guidelines getting more strict. For example, one of
our companies have lowered their age requirements
for a new pilot down to 69. (No worries, we still
have some great companies that we work with for
older pilots and we don't see this as a trend with
all of our companies.) New builds are also seeing
tighter restrictions. We're having a harder time
getting low time pilots approved and the insurance
companies are getting more strict on training
The major change that we've seen lately is that our
two companies who have offered $1,000,000 Combined
Single Limits, aka $1,000,000 smooth, have decided
to no longer offer this coverage for Vans aircraft.
(If you are a Gallagher client and already have this
coverage, you're not at risk of losing it, but feel
free to contact your broker to be sure.) This is
very concerning to us because we want to make sure
you are properly covered in the event of a claim. As
of right now, the best liability coverage offered
for a Vans aircraft is $1,000,000 per
occurrence/$200,000 per passenger with the exception
of one company that offers $250,000 per passenger.
If you do not already have this coverage, it may be
something to reconsider. We have not had any
companies stop offering the higher liability, but we
also can't promise that they will continue to offer
it in the future.
Leah Ringeisen, Shanna Linton, Katie Escalante & Kim
Jul 11, 2019. Issue #4,866.
RV = Rescue Vehicle ...Dustyone RV-10
My neighbour at the airfield had departed on a
family holiday around Australia some 7 days earlier
only to become stranded in the remote Australian
town of Coober Pedy in his Mooney M20J.
A plan was hatched to fly the
owner,engineer and support crew with required parts
the 1000 Nm from YRED ,Redcliffe to YBCP Coober Pedy
. We would leave the owner with his repaired
aircraft and return the next day another 1000 Nm.
"I'm On My Way" PIREP ...SuperCubDriver
While Bob and I were at breakfast he called a
friend in Florida to ask for a hangar for me and
gave me the contact details. In the evening I
planned for Gainsville/FL and in the morning got in
touch with Bill in Brooksville/FL. He said I can
share his hangar for my stay and so I replanned to
his place, not much difference, just a little .....ville.
I made it in one hop at 04:40h. After landing I was
guided to Bill's hangar and I was happy to have a
roof for my plane, thunderstorms all around these
days here! The sleeping quality is much higher this
way! Not knowing me he invited me to stay at his
home and drove me to the airport next morning. We
intended to fly for breakfast together and waited
for the weather to improve. It was too late for
breakfast, so later in the day I flew to Key West
around some weather and more so on the return
iPad EFIS Update ...ssokol (VAF advertiser
So back at the beginning of the year I posted a
tentative panel design and got quite a bit of useful
feedback from the VAF community. The design was (is)
intended as a showcase of the iPad EFIS that I've
been working on for the past three years. Here's
what happened next...
Last month I finally got the EFIS hardware and
software to the point that it was ready to move to
the next stage of testing. For the past year I've
been flying with the display for my EIFS (an iPad)
on a RAM mount. It was my primary source of flight
and nav data, but I still had the Dynon and steam
gauges for backup. In almost 80 hours of flying, the
numbers had matched up - airspeed sensor is working.
Altimeter is working. GPS is working. The time had
come to take it to the next level.
Status Report ...jcarne '7A
Well it's finallly time to do the canopy skirt
dance. The plan all along was just to take the time
to do a skirt for the whole shebang but I held up
the aluminum side skirts and said "daaaaang those
fit too good to throw away!"
Therefore, I started by putting the aluminum skirts
on and painting the inside of them except where Sika
will go just for a little extra. Then it was time to
start taping things off for the rear skirt layup.
Initial Contact ...stonewallhayes
I'm trying to figure out why the builder's poh for
my Lycoming O-320 has you start on the slick mag
rather then the lightspeed II. It seems like it
would be better to start on the electronic ignition
unless I'm missing something.
Don E RV-14
First flight October 22, 2018
Oshkosh Arrival Enforcement ...DanH
Quite a few folks have suggested
no arrival plan will work until conformance with the
NOTAM is enforced.
Well, after many meetings and much debate, all
parties are in agreement. We are please to announce
the EAF's black ops division will supply certain
enforcement services. Beginning Friday 22 July, the
EAF* will deploy its new COIN fighter to patrol the
area in and around Ripon, Fisk, Green Lake, and Fond
Jul 10, 2019. Issue #4,865.
RV-3 PIREP ...dacronwall
I purchased N66GB back in 2014 and have been
working on it off and on since. She is one of the
early "Bakersfield RV-3's" with racing history. She
needed a new motor mount and gear legs to get
flying, then came instruments, radio, ADS-b, spar
upgrade (CN-1. CN-2) new windshield panel, 2
different cowl modifications, new prop and the list
goes on. She is out of paint now, the IO-320 gets me
just up to 200 kts on the right day and she is
finally back to regular flying and violating
sensible operational limits whenever possible!
RV-5 PIREP ...Iron @ KP
RV-12 Canopy Latch
...discussion of old/current designs. Updates in
3yr old thread.
"All I can say is that you all have been
very generous with your advice and the pictures tell a lot.
It's true, mine doesn't have the catch feature. And from
what Tony says, even with the adjustments done on the old,
it may not be enough, I'll see. Evidently the new system
really is the ultimate answer and I may end up doing that
after trying the simple things first. Right now, I'm out of
town, but will get on this at the end of the week. Thanks
What killed this PC680? ...Brantel update
An update to this thread.....
Early in my RV's life I was having issues with premature
failure of the PC-680 batteries.
I just replaced my now 6 year old PC-680 not because it
failed but just because I want to be proactive before it
lets me down somewhere away from the home drome. It will now
go on the ATV or mower.
Back in 2013 I changed how I maintained the charge on my
battery which I am convinced help it live a normal life.
Fly more, let the alternator do the charging!
Don't use the Odyssey Ultimizer Charger!
Don't use a trickle charger continuously (can be done with
the correct charger but the details are specific, too much
trouble, just don't do it)
Don't use a smart charger without the proper charge profile!
Don't use a smart charger on a battery that does not allow
the charger to go thru its full charge profile. (not
Use a ground power supply when running the panel in the
hangar to prevent discharging the main battery to a point
where it needs charging.
Don't leave the airplane sitting with less than full charge
on the battery, doing so will lead to rapid sulfation.
Bottom line is that sulfation will kill these batteries in
short order and improper charging/storage can lead to rapid
sulfation. Don't store the batteries at less than full
charge and don't charge the batteries with less than the
recommended voltage/current level. Following the recommended
charge profile is key!
Final update ...AOG in KHBG
After considering all my options, the best one was for me
to rent a car and drive to SkyTec in Montgomery, AL. It was
3.5 hours each way, but it got me home to my own bed last
night after being away for 9 days.
Found in the lower cowling after the kickback...
Pulled lower scoop to get this pic
Thanks to everybody who tried to help!
Initial Contact....RV-14A #140592
Hello, allow me to introduce myself! Long time
lurker, first time poster here. I'd like to start by
thanking Doug and all the members of this forum.
I've learned so much just from the resources
My dad got me into aviation as a kid when he bought
a Piper Cherokee, but not an autopilot. Thus began a
long tradition of following VOR needles before I
could see over the panel. After graduating college,
I started thinking about ownership, and building. I
worked my way through most of the options, namely
Zenith and Vans. After defining my mission, and with
the recognition that I'll probably only build one, I
decided on the RV-14A.
I've already made some progress; shop set up, mostly
finished the vertical stabilizer, and begun work on
I'm pretty happy with my shop setup, though I'm
going to need some more storage sooner than later to
hold finished parts.
The vertical stabilizer is mostly done, short of
riveting on the skin.
Zero Oil Press ...mahlon_r chimes in
no oil flow out of the pump from that fitting
will not produce metal in the filter or at the
relief valve. There was no flow. that fitting goes
directly into the oil pump output port. No flow
there no flow anywhere. Either the oil pump failed
or the suction screen is blocked. Nothing down
stream from the pump could cause no flow out the
center oil cooler fitting. BTW Mark the plug missing
from the rear on the crank shaft nose section will
not cause zero oil pressure. The prop won't work so
good but you would still have pressure. Also, even
with the relief valve ball out of the engine, you
will still have about 50 psi oil pressure at power.
Really low at idle but you would still have
Why was the cooler hot? Can't say. Hot air from the
cylinders blowing on it? In a normal situation,
there is just a very little flow through the cooler
if you have a vernatherm installed until you get the
oil to temperature (150- 165F plus). If you did a
couple of quick runs to power from cold status, the
oil cooler wouldn't normally get any flow, until you
got the oil pretty hot. So the cooler wouldn't start
to get hot from oil flow until you had at least
above 150f oil in the sump.
Hope there was enough residual oil on the bearings
and at the front thrust surface to have prevented
any serious damage but the only way to tell for sure
is to look. Especially at that front thrust area of
the case and shaft, really susceptible with no oil
Plenum Porn ...Toobuilder
Finally have the engine "flight ready", and since
it's never going to be this clean again I figured
I'd post pictures. This shows the hinge installation
well. Takes about 10 seconds to get the lid off and
5 minutes to get it back on.
Mothership OSH'19 Info ...click for more info
Jul 9, 2019. Issue #4,864.
I'm going to need some help in a week or so determining the price of the
RV-10 wing below (built from a standard kit to the QB stage I
think). The mothership lists the standard kit at $11.4K,
and for $6.3K more you can have a new one show up mostly built.
Total $17.7K, $19.2K w/tax (source)
This wing, owned by a friend from NM no longer in the RV hobby
was delivered to my hangar with these instructions: "Whatever
you can get for it is fine." So I'm helping my friend
So over the next week I'll borrow Gary's wing stand,
clean these up with the air compressor and some rags, then
create a poll on the site with this question: 'What do you
think, based on these 20+ pictures, these wings are worth?'
I'll then most likely set the price on the cheaper side of
the top of the bell curve distribution. Somewhere between
$0 and $17,775 ;^).
They need some love as they have been in dry storage for years, and the
pictures won't hide anything. One of the ailerons has a
ding in the trailing edge, there is some rust on the steel
parts, some light corrosion (I think) on a flap. One of
the end ribs has a 1" tear in it. My friend forgot one of
the flaps and two skins I think - apparently in another storage
unit (in New Mexico). I'll get pics of those also.
The poll should be interesting. The mothership says the wait for
-10 wings is ~10
I'll let you know when I have more info - just wanted to get the ball
rolling. From what I've seen falling on my hangar floor,
there is a lot of sand in New Mexico.
AOG - Stranded in KHBG - need
Landed in Hattiesburg, MS for fuel on my way home
from the Bahamas. Starter is shot. It's too late to
overnight anything for Monday, so I'm guessing
Tuesday will be the earliest i can get one here, and
that'll cost me $$$$. I'll talk to the mechanic on
the field in the morning, so there's a chance he
might have something to get me home. But i thought
I'd also ask here to see if anybody in the area had
one sitting around. Sky-tec 149NL currently
Status Report ...jcarne -7A
Canopy work continues. The main focus the past
few days has been to get the canopy ready for layup
of the fiberglass skirt. I think I may be able to
start that tomorrow.
After putting a finish coat of Sika on it was time
to put it on the plane and see how it all lines up.
Overall I am very pleased with it. The only squawk
is that the front is a little narrow by about 1/8"
of an inch. No big deal, it still slides nicely, I
may shave off a 1/16th from the rollers eventually
but right now I'm happy. When I put the canopy on
the plane I also put the windscreen on with the
proper spacers so I could measure how much of the
forward roller tubes needed trimmed. I needed to
trim a 1/4" to get the canopy down enough to
perfectly line up with the windscreen. After that I
installed the roll bar bolts and the support. I also
installed the track after positioning it such that
the aft side of the canopy lines up nicely with the
Life Update ...RV7ForMe
Been a while since I made any progress on "MY"
But, a lot has happened:
Remember why we do those "simulated" engine out
trainings on our BFR's? Well, I do one every year
either for club currency or for the rating and while
it is all well it doesn't compare to the real thing!
At 250h total time I am a just starting and I know
it is a risk but never really thought it would
A few weeks ago I was PIC in a friends good old
152. He had to give up his medical for a bit
(already has it back) but still wanted to fly so he
asked me to fly him around in his plane. He is over
twice my age but we have fun sharing one of the best
hobbies out there.
It was a hot day, we were close to MTOW and climb
was pretty slow. A few minutes later just shy of
2000ft still at WOT the engine sound changed. A
quick glance at the gauge: 1500RPM with everything
full forward. "OH SH**"
I tried to trouble shoot while getting that
adrenaline rush you would expect. Everything
happened so quick. I lost about 600ft when I
realized I will have to put her down NOW. I was
maybe 1000ft-1200ft AGL. Looked left, picked a place
and called a mayday and set up for landing. I still
had partial power until I shut her down before touch
down. I never thought it would happen but it did. I
am pretty thankful it was a C152.
So I was just really lucky that nobody got hurt.
Happy to be here!
N196 1st Condition Inspection ...bkervaski
Well, that was uneventful.
Did the first condition inspection, only 1 loose
bolt (aileron autopilot servo bracket). No other
Vic: All my jam nuts were still tight
Section 29 - fuselage side skin bending
I'm trying to get my fuselage side skins bent with
the wood jig per instructions on 29-4.
I was happy that I got it to the 60-degree angle
they ask for, but when I cleco it on, it's clearly
not flush around the holes, and the edge is lifted
away from the other skin:
Any suggestions on this? Should I bend it beyond
the 60 degrees? Crease near the edge? I've looked
through some blogs where everyone says theirs just
sit perfectly after bending.
Rodrigo Damazio Bovendorp
San Jose, CA
RV-10 builder #41623
Bucket List: Johnson Creek Bathtub ...Amit -7
Finally crossed it off my bucket list on the 4th
of July weekend.
The place was not crowded at all, unlike what I
expected. WX was perfect, could not ask for better
Also hiked up to the hot tub, which was kind of
sulphury and slimy, but no complaints.
Jul 8, 2019. Issue #4,863.
Allow me to introduce you to Geoffrey, we're pretty sure one of planet
Earth's newest student pilots. His dad works at SMU and is
friends with our daughter and son. Audrey got word to me
that Geoffrey was interested in getting his pilot license, and
at 16 he will be shortly driving...and that's the kind of thing
that can get you to an airport and back!
Tate and Geoffrey all smiles after Geoffrey's flight.
This past Saturday Geoffrey and his dad drove out to said
airport, and we got to aviate! All the normal
just-starting-out building blocks.....straight and level, standard
rate turns keeping the ball centered, climbs, descents, positive
transfer of controls and more. It always amazes me how fast a
16 year old adapts to the sensitivity of an RV. After only a
couple of minutes he had that VVI nailed to the horizon in turns.
"Just try to remember 10% each flight." I can still
hear my instructor saying that.
We found him a C172 and instructor on our field. He downloaded the
my-tax-dollars-at-work 348 page
Airplane Flying Handbook off the FAA site, will be shortly
ordering the ASA Test Prep book, and is eager to jump in studying
for the written. It is one of the great perks of this hobby to
get to witness that aviation spark come alive in a young person's
mind every so often.
Look out world! Geoffrey is inbound!
"I'm On My Way"...trip update
It is a while now that I didn't update on my
So on July 2nd I flew to Corona to shop at
Aircraft Spruce, I have been there many times but
never with my own plane. Then I went on to Boulder
City where I passed these mirror fields. Can anyone
explain what is going on there?? At Boulder I had a
hangar, Bruce from Seattle arranged this. I was
greeted and guided to the hangar. It is so exciting
to meet friendly and helpful people everywhere, this
makes my trip even more of a pleasure.
The next day I prepared the plane when it was still
dark and departed at sunrise. Hoover dam is only
minutes away and I was wondering how much traffic
there is so early. Next was the Grand Canyon only a
short distance from Boulder. I flew into the SFRA
avoiding the no fly zones and passed three of the
published corridors. This itself and the view out of
"my" plane will be unforgettable. Not enough, I flew
on northeast-bound to Monument Valley and arrived
there still early in the morning when the sun was
not that high above the horizon. And man, the view
with the low sun behind is spectacular, the colors
and contrast in the early morning are so strong,
simply breathtaking. I landed at Gouldings UT25 for
a short break, then headed back once more over the
Grand Canyon to my "Home Base" at Boulder with a
short stop at Grand Canyon International KGCN and
Grand Canyon West 1G4 - what a day!!
Next morning I was invited by the local pilots to
fly with them over the Parade at Boulder City for
the Independence day, what a gesture and what a
great feeling to be invited for this event. Of
course I flew behind the real formation because I
don't have formal formation training and we never
before flew together. The lead pilot got it right
and I learned a lot from his briefing and
This is a long post - not finished, so first a few
Misfire "A" Ignition...RV-12
I asked this question over in the Rotax 912/914
Technical Forum and didn't get a response... I have
an early S/N RV-12 with 912ULS now with 450TT. Carbs
are synched beautifully with electronic CarbMate.
Synch is good at idle and just off-idle. L&R EGTs
are very closely matched from idle to WOT.
Problem... Most of the time the engine runs smooth
1800 - 3000 RPM. Sometimes the engine has a miss at
this low speed. When "B" ignition is turned off the
miss continues. When "A" ignition is turned off the
engine runs smooth. So, problem is definitely with
"A" ignition. I have changed sparkplug caps to NGK
Spark Plug Resistor Cover - 90 Elbow Type (LB05F)
and installed new NGK DCPR8E Spark Plugs gapped to
0.025". The new spark plug caps improved COM radio
noise but didn't fix misfire. I thought maybe
problem is temperature or moisture related but that
doesn't seem to be the case. The misfire almost
seems like induction/cross-talk between the
high-tension wires. Engine always runs smooth at
4000 + RPM and extremely smooth at 5500 RPM cruise.
Either ignition can be shut off at cruise RPM and
engine continues to run smooth.
Possible next steps:
Replace high-tension ignition wires (7mm copper)
Maybe there is problem with magnetic timing sensor?
Maybe timing sensor gap is incorrect?
Maybe one of the new spark plugs is bad?
I have an oil change coming up in 20 hours so I'm
trying to get ducks lined up for when I pull the
Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks in advance...
A Nice Day on the Beach...DeeCee 57
Just returned from our vacations in scenic and
friendly Scotland with my wife Tina and the -6. The
first week was spent in the Hebrides and the second
in the Shetland islands.
Whilst there are many unlicensed strips on all
the islands and the mainland, the fascination of
legally landing on an open beach still rated high on
my aviation bucket list...checking for the tide
times before setting off is kinda exciting.
Progress on Closing The Wings ...PhatRV
I just completed closing the bottom skin panels
of my RV8 wings last weekend. The job was not as
difficult as I had feared after reading various
comments about how challenging or impossible it was.
More brake woes
I'm on a big cross county trip, visiting family
in Summerside, PEI, 2400 NM from home. It's been a
good trip,, RVs are a great way to travel. I had 3
weather related diversions, but never got into much
trouble. My first day last Saturday had me lose all
of my brake fluid on the right side after landing.
This was resolved after we found a broken flare in
the top of leg fitting. Brakes worked great until
yesterday. After a couple of short flights here I
noticed my right brake was gone on rollout. After a
half dozen left hand pirouettes for my right exit I
had to shut down to stop turning. Got a tow back to
the hangar and got a look today. I set out to bleed
the brake and quickly discovered when my son pressed
on the brake that fluid was coming out around the
piston. No standing leak, but I had lost some fluid
earlier at the end of the runway.
We removed the calliper and I got the piston out.
There were no signs of any problems, not in the
calliper, nor the piston or o-ring. Everything was
nice and smooth. We'll reinstall it tomorrow and
check agin, just in case there was something
contaminating the seal. I am not optimistic, I have
always had problems with this brake leaking
occasionally. I suspect there may be a non-visible
defect in the assembly. Anyone else see this?
I've got Marco callipers, and less than 100 hours on
RV-10 in the backcountry ...more stuff (aturner)
Ryan is a very special place, and thanks to the
generosity of Ben and Butchie Ryan, and the
stewardship of the Recreational Aviation Foundation,
it is open to all of us. You need to get a safety
briefing beforehand. Visit the RAF website https://theraf.org/,
click on Pilot Information, and Ryan Field.
Zero Oil Pressure
Oil pressure (as measured on my Dynon Skyview)
went to zero last evening on the ground while
testing the installation of my new CS prop. I had
done a couple of run ups, exercised the prop, etc
and then got a warning from Skyview. I taxied the
200 yards back to the hangar while watching the oil
temps and CHTs. By the time I got there, the
indicated pressure was zero and I shut down quickly.
Oil temps and CHTs were all about what they were
before the warning (121F for oil, mid 300s for CHT),
so in looking for corroborating information that I
really had an oil pressure problem, I wasn't able to
No oil loss, no oil leaks, dry as a bone FWF. I did
do an oil change very recently and had 7 qts in the
engine. I send oil samples to Blackstone at every
change and I had a great report from them on this
change. The engine has about 200 hours on it, a
So, need a plan to figure out what's happening. One
obvious possibility is a bad oil pressure sensor
(it's the Kavlico sold by Dynon). So, plumbing in a
mechanical gauge makes sense and then I'd remove the
top plugs and run the starter with ignition off to
see if I get a pressure indication. Another idea is
to remove the oil pressure line and fitting to check
for obstruction. If none of these point to the
answer, what's next (other than a teardown)? Ideas?
What am I missing? ...RV-14
It's been a long day pounding rivets, so that's
my excuse if this is obvious. What is the difference
Step 3 page 26-14 &
Step 3 page 26-21
It seems that all of the seat ribs have been riveted
on page 26-14 with the exceptions of the "Do Not
Rivet" which applies to the remainder of the
Jul 5, 2019. Issue #4,862.
I spent the 4th doing very American things. I gave a nice lady an
airplane ride, then mowed the yard, and finally sat down at work
to build the Friday edition. Fun with friends, exercise
and work. America 101.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
TDI Trip Report ...Flandy10 RV-10
It was looking like another scorching weekend in HOTlanta
until I get this text from my brother. "If you don't have
anything going on and want to fly up for the weekend- we
have the room and beverages at Lake James" Hold on a
second---quick check of the forecasts--- "Honey, pack a bag,
we heading to the lake in the morning. Have plane, will
Left early Saturday morning for a smooth, cool flight to
Angola, IN. Very short ride from the airport to Lake James.
Van's July and OSH Show Specials ...mothership
We got a little head-start on AirVenture show specials,
and posted our July/OSH special deal for emp/tail kits
We review our prices annually and make adjustments as
needed, based on the changing cost of materials. While we've
already made a set of small price adjustments for the year,
until the end of AirVenture we're offering these
empennage/tail kits at the "old" kit prices. Anyone can take
advantage of this offer and submit your order at any time by
In addition, when you order your tail kit in-person
at the Van's booth at AirVenture in Oshkosh, you'll receive
an additional $100 off. So, be sure to tell your spouse that
you have an opportunity to "stack coupons" at the show
(trust us, they'll be impressed!), and order that tail kit
you've been dreaming about starting! You'll need to be at
the show and ask for the stacked discount at the time you
place your order, so don't be shy. And when the show ends,
this special will end as well!
The PDF document linked
here has the details.
See you at OSH 2019 in our
new booth location - North Aircraft Display Area, Booth
Note: Van's is closed on Thursday and Friday, July 4-5, for
the Independence Day holiday. We'll be back at it Monday
Eagle's Nest Projects - Travis Senft - 1st Solo on his 16th Birthday
Eagle's Nest Projects - Central High School (WI)
July 4th, 2019. Travis Senft completes 1st Solo Flight
on his 16th Birthday. "He can't drive... but he sure
can fly" -Mickey Ferguson, CFI
Status Report ...jcarne
The canopy work is going strong in this garage. After making
another big cut on the aft end and a couple on the sides the
canopy was almost ready to be glued on. I sanded the edge of
the plexi all the way up to 600 grit which took me most of a
day but you want it smooth! After the sanding was done I
clamped it to the frame, took some measurements to make sure
I didn't need anymore pre-bend, and masked off the canopy.
Here is the canopy ready for masking.
JD Air Oshkosh Discounts!!!
Oshkosh AirVenture 2019 special offer. Use discount code
AV2019 and receive 10% off on all orders from
now through August 4th, 2019.
Please note, I am leaving for vacation and Oshkosh on July
11 and will not return until August 4th. Any orders received
during this time will be processed and shipped in order when
I return from vacation.
I will be at Oshkosh from Saturday July 17th through Sunday
July 25th. I will have the full product line but limited
quantities with me and can deliver orders there. If you'd
like to purchase products there I can only accept cash and
there will be no shipping charges. If you'd like to
pre-order and pay cash send me an email on the contact page
of the web site.
Thanks so much for the continued support!!!
Flyleds Seven Stars landing light ...Flyleds
We know there's a bunch of you out there who subscribe to
the theory that having too much light is barely enough...
Please say Hi to the Flyleds Seven Stars landing light. 8400
lumens of lighting goodness.
Mounted the engine today. Bill Recuppi happened to be in
town to see is family and he dropped over to help hang the
engine. Bill had no idea before hand that he would be
helping me hang the engine. I sent him a picture with the
engine and said "goes what I am doing today". He was at the
house in less than 20 minutes.
We used the instruction article on the main Vans A