March 22, 2017. Issue
Forced Landing PIREP ...Bill Anton
the guy that this thread is about. I've never made an engine out
landing in 42 years of flying. However, some days it's better to be
lucky than good. Flying from Western Kansas that morning to Tucson
for our son's Air Force retirement ceremony (F16 pilot). Refueled in
Truth or Consequences and headed west over some very rugged mountain
country. We were northwest of Lordsburg NM when I contacted
Albuquerque Center (see Craig Brenden's post) for flight following
so he could hand me of to Tucson International's approach control.
Probably 5-10 minutes later the oil temp started increasing and at
the same time oil pressure started decreasing. I talked to Center
and advised him of my situation letting him know I was going to get
it down as soon as possible. I was looking for a airport close to
get to (Wilcox was about 30 miles in front of me) when the oil ran
out. Something let loose in the engine, which was obvious with the
extreme vibration, and I immediately shut off the ignition and
pulled the throttle. I pulled the nose up to decrease my airspeed to
get the prop to stop windmilling. Never thought I would be thankful
to have an engine stop. At that point we're a glider (I do have a
glider rating) and I'm looking for a place to put it down. I10 was
directly under us and not a good place to go. Just south looked like
some vineyards with farm roads. Some had power lines which but as I
got closer saw one road (I say road but this was merely a farm road
between two field that the farmer had graded) maybe 1/2 mile long
with no power lines approximately into the wind. I flew a pattern
over the road and lined up with it on a final approach (no go around
in a glider). As I touched down I noticed a 4 wheeler in the road
maybe a quarter mile in front of me facing the opposite direction
obviously unaware an airplane was approaching at 70 kts. I steered
over to another adjacent parallel road to get it slowed down and
I'm writing this long winded story to let you know a couple of
things. First, this incident didn't happen because this was and
amateur built aircraft. It took me 8 years to build, 1st flight was
July 1, 2006. The RV8 has over 700 hours on it. The engine is a
Lycoming IO360 that was a rebuilt 0 time engine when I installed
during the build. Second, it reinforces some of the cross country
principles we all learn. 1) Altitude is you friend, esp in rough
country. 2) Always be looking for a suitable landing place, esp in
rough country. 3)Keep up you flying skills (study & practice engine
out landings) 4) It doesn't hurt to get some glider training
(besides it great fun). Thanks to the Cochise County sheriff and SAR
people who showed up and assisted us.
Next project is to pull off the wings, load everything on a trailer
and get it home to assess the solution to getting back in the air.
The 48 State Traveling Salesman ...joe rainbolt
I'm looking for input on a proposed 48 state "road" trip.
3D Printed Fuel Drain Fairing ...Steve Melton
From concept to holding in the hand in about two hours and I had
to watch a youtube video for training. I am still amazed by this
I see Solidworks can complete CFD airflow analysis. I'll post a
couple slides of that. Not that this simple fairing needs any
analysis but just to share. Maybe someone can chime in on that.
My youngest daughter, 9th grade, runs circles around in solid
modeling and is beginning to talk about stress analysis. Now we have
something to discuss!
Creased edge while using edge rolling tool....mfleming
So I've creased the edge of my RV-7 aileron skin using the
Cleveland edge rolling tool.
In an effort to prevent the tool from rolling off the edge, I
obviously was putting too much force on the tool and it rode up up
onto the skin putting a crease in its path.
Any suggestions if this is fixable?
(50kt tailwind) "so my RV-9a, 150 hp, finally joins the 200
RV-10 Center Brace too short-
I'm working on my RV10 cabin top and am fitting in the center
brace. On page 43-8 the instructions say to insert the cabin center
brace into the fwd top skin and "slide the brace as far forward as
it will go".
When I do that, the four holes on the top part of the brace no
longer reach far enough for me to drill them into the cabin top! See
here for proof:
There's room for me to slide the center brace back, BUT there's not
much meat on the center brace to drill into behind the panel.
What should I do? Should I try to split the difference? Or should I
try to fill in that area of the cabin top with structural filler
before drilling through?
Would love some thoughts on how to proceed
March 21, 2017. Issue
All (66) Public Virginia Airports Visited ...Vlad's Milestone
Now I can brag I visited all public airports in Virginia.
Recently flew to Roanoke......So all public airports in Commonwealth
of Virginia are visited. Some of them were just a quick hop for the
stamp but the majority I explored. At least dozen I visited multiple
Dirty Side Up ...kentlik re-birthing status
I finally got some help to flip this bad girl over! What an
accomplishment! Not difficult to flip, tough to get a couple extra
hands to make it easier. All is well and I can make some good
headway this week.
I just realized I have had this project right at a year! Working on
it in that year maybe only 4 months available. Of that time maybe
have done 300-350 hours! I need to step it up!
SuperBloom 2017 in the Anza-Borrego Desert
...Bruce Hill 9A Trip Write-up and photos
Turbo Sug RV-7 in Norway ...rv6ejguy post
Bjorn Anders Horne flies this EZ30 turbo powered RV7 in Norway.
He reports 570 trouble free hours on the setup as of March 2017.
WFAA Features McKinney Eagle's Nest HS Students ...Earnie
Richard Rensing and Erica Swenson are McKinney ISD high school
seniors, Eagle's Nest Projects build-students, and are the only two
students in McKinney ISD to earn a Private Pilot license before
graduation. With a burning passion for flying and their RV-12
build project still under construction, these outstanding students
went the extra mile in pursuit of their chosen career and partnered
with Monarch Aviation for their flight training. Please share a warm
VAF welcome to Richard and Erica.
Ground Shot ...starkw1
My RV-7, started in 2001, is finally painted and after the recent
light snow here in the Twin Cities I took the opportunity to shoot a
The transformation from unpainted Al and primer grey is pretty
Paint design by Scheme Designers, Inc.
Paint shop, Midwest Aircraft Refinishing, Hibbing, MN
It was a pleasure working with both groups
SportAir workshop reinforced what I was afraid of
So before I'd allow myself to begin building an RV I knew I
needed to take a primer on sheet metal. I attended the SportAir
sheet metal class in Oakland this past weekend. I was very, VERY
lucky that a spot opened up just a few weeks before the class... and
that I live 5 minutes away from it.
I went into this so excited that I tried not to think about it for
weeks. I was afraid that I'd either be a natural at more delicate
metal work or worse be horrible at it.
The entire weekend was a blast and I cant recommend the classes
enough. My only complaint is that they don't stay in one place for a
week so that you can take all of the classes.
March 20, 2017. Issue
Airworthiness Certificate in hand! ...Jeff Kudlo
After 10 years,
the rocket ship is built. After a thorough inspection by an EAA
technical counselor (Thanks DR), and an additional inspection by the
MIDO out of Cleveland, the airworthiness certificate was issued.
What’s next? On to Vernonia, Oregon for transition training.
RV-8 forced landing, Wilcox, AZ ...all OK.
Plane Forced Landing Update...Willcox. Two people were in
the aircraft at the time of this incident. Pilot and wife
passenger are ok, no injuries. Engine failed and was able to land on
a dirt road next to a pecan orchard. The pilot called
Albuquerque Center FAA Air Traffic Control Center and told them of
the engine failure. They kept talking to him until he was close to
the ground then lost radar and radio contact. He landed on Last
Outpost Road. Thank you SAR and all involved in responding to
P.S. Albuquerque (common spelling) corrected in this post thanks to
SAR Coordinator David Noland.
Fun With SVT Expert AP Mode ...Tony T
I'd like to tell you about some RV-12 fun with VNAV. Although I
am instrument rated, I’m not current and would certainly not try
this for real. It’s just for fun. As a matter of fact, fun is the
reason I built my RV-12. I had no plans to ever fly it in IMC, or to
the NW Territories or even to Oshkosh. I like my comforts, and am a
bit too old for that all day in the cockpit, or busy IFR stuff, I’ll
be eligible for the
UFO’s two years from now.
Milestone: A&P ...Paul Dye
When I was a kid, infatuated with anything that flew (still am
that kid) and reading every book I could get related to aviation, I
came to the conclusion that to be a complete aviator, you needed to
be able to fly, design, and work on airplanes. I don’t know why I
figured it out that way – just did. So I became a pilot in High
School, and went to college to learn to design airplanes. Checked
off two of the three. I started working on airplanes when I was
thirteen, and have been doing it ever since – but always on either
experimental aircraft or under the supervision of a licensed
mechanic (when working on certified aircraft). I never had the time
to go to a two-year trade school to do the formal training for the
A&P, and when I lived in Houston, the local FAA office made it
pretty difficult to take the test based on just experience.
RV-7A UL POWER PROJECT - 200HP 520iS FWF UPFIT WITH PICS
Dave 'BigD' RV-10 POH and Checklists Added
March 17, 2017. Issue
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
Back in the Air ...Alex Peterson
I completed the panel about a month ago. It took a bit over 300
hours, but at least half of that, perhaps 2/3's, was redesigning and
redoing the electrical system. More details
here if you are so inclined, in the December 2016 and March 2017
I'm very happy with how it turned out, and I've found no big deal in
transitioning to the efis display from the old gauges. I retained
the A/S indicator as a backup, but I only look at from time to time
I've got a few more labels to modify and/or generate, but here's the
The goals of the project were met, namely, replacing some gyros
and A/P parts that needed repair, ADSB in/out capability, coolness
of big screen, etc.. I also had a major goal of making things easy
to maintain, specifically minimizing the need to climb under the
panel. A few more thoughts are in the newsletter linked above.
BNP Paribas Tourney ...rph142 trip report
I haven't posted a trip report here in a while so I figured it
was time after my recent day trip to the BNP Paribas tennis
tournament. My plan was to fly from KCCR to KUDD, watch a few hours
of pro tennis, then fly back before sunset.
David Clinthorne's 300+ page RV-4 POH ...13MB MS Doc
...added to the POH section
for your reference.
Another Empenage Fairing Question ...snoopyflys
Working on fitting the empennage fairing and while it fits pretty
well, I have a pucker near the leading edge on the left side.
Even after building now for these past 8 years, I'm still a little
intimidated working with fiberglass. Not sure what would be the best
solution other than hacking the fairing up and re-glassing to get
the fairing to lay flat on the HS skin. So anyone out there have any
words (pictures) of wisdom on how I can best solve this minor issue?
Courtesy Cars & Food List
Status Report: So Close ...Chattin35
Down to the single digits of rivets left to pound... Can you tell
I'm getting excited?
Status Report Pics ...David
March 16, 2017. Issue
Episode 9 ...haydnc
"...We find a pretty little coastal town built on the banks of
Lake Albert, with an airstrip really close to the the town centre.
It was a place we’d never heard of before, but really glad we
stopped, it was a gem of a town - Meningie in South Australia."
Mike Toews RV-4 POH ...94 page PDF
"...My POH has been re-written to coincide
with the new equipment in my airplane and a copy is attached.
Thought you might like to post it on your website and let people
know they’re welcome to copy / follow its formatting (the actual
content doesn’t apply to any airplane but mine – obviously)."
[ed. You really have to see this document
to believe it. VERY detailed! v/r,dr]
related: POH section
Power Loss RV-12 Rotax 912ULS ...n233va
Today 3/14/2017 a friend flew a RV12 to Williams Arizona, KCMR.
Airport elevation 6691 ft. outside temperature was low 70’s. Flight
in was normal. When he went to leave, just after becoming airborne
the engine stumbled and lost significant power. An aborted landing
was successful. An A&P from Prescott, AZ was contacted. The A&P had
built this RV12 as well as a second one he flies. The A&P flew the
second RV12 to Williams. He checked the carburetor bowls for debris
on the first RV12 as well as doing a full run-up. All seemed normal
and no debris was found. A second attempt to take off was made by
the first RV12. Again the engine stumbled and failed to produce full
power. The decision was to leave the first RV12 in Williams and fly
the second one back to Prescott, planning on returning in the
morning. The second RV12 did a run-up, which was normal, and started
the take off roll. The second RV12 experienced a similar engine
stumble and extreme roughness. The second RV12 could not develop
take off power. Both aircraft are Rotax powered with 912ULS engines.
Both are identical in the fuel system and carburation. Both also
experienced fluctuating fuel pressure during the attempted takeoffs.
Both aircraft were burning 91-octane auto fuel with ethanol,
purchased locally in Prescott Arizona at two different locations. It
appears that both aircraft experienced vapor lock while applying
full power for take off. The weather has been much warmer in
Northern Arizona than usual for this time of year. We believe the
fuel, which is in all probability, a winter blend, has too high a
vapor pressure, thus causing the vapor lock.
For those of you RV12 drivers using auto fuel at high elevation
airports in warm temperatures BEWARE. Both RV12’s will be flown out
of Williams tomorrow morning when the temperatures are expected to
be in the high 30’s to low 40’s.
Until or when we can determine that the refineries are producing
summer blend auto gasoline, we will be changing to 100ll. And may
continue with 100ll during the summer months to avoid the
possibility of vapor lock at high elevation airports, regardless of
the auto fuel blend.
Panel Porn ...kaweeka RV-9A
RV-10 Question ...Bill Boyd
Unable to insert the control sticks any further than this into
the weldments. The powder coat is way back from this line. Plans say
to insert "as far as it will go" before match-drilling.
From the Mothership
DIY Snorkle ...crabandy
I used regular autobody filler to finish shaping over the foam, I
can spread it and be sanding in less than 30 minutes. Probably took
7-8 layers, filled only the low areas first then slowly skimmed the
Charity Cap Sighting ...Anthony
March 15, 2017. Issue
Welcome Chris Simpson
Progress Pictures ...Bill Boyd
She's starting to get a "soul" as the control systems slowly go
in. You can tell the pile of parts is going to be quite airworthy
one day. Reaching that point in the build where you start to
feel the "thousand cuts" of Aircraft Spruce orders - can't find my
AN23-10 clevis bolts for the rudder cable links and not sure I want
(to or have spares) to substitute an AN3 bolt here, so off goes the
latest order for two dollars in parts with three dollars shipping
(not that any of that pricing is unreasonable, it's just that I
probably own and simply misplaced those buggers somewhere when I
opened and separated all those paper bags last year). I remember
going through this 20 years ago. I'm going to start being better
about batching these orders while I build on in other areas and come
back to it when the parts arrive. Won't be long before I will have
glass cloth, epoxy and other related goodies to bundle the nut and
bolt orders with :
IFR Training in your RV ...Ralph Capen
Like a number of others, I am working on getting my IFR rating in
my RV. In my case it is a 6A with IO360B1F6/MT 3 Blade CS prop,
430W, SL70, SL30, and S-Tec-30. Round guages on the pilot side
except for the HSI replacement GRT-Mini-AP.
A bunch of hood time has made me better all around from a procedures
Hardest part for me is maintaining airspeed and altitude
simultaneously. What are you been-there-done-that types using for
your approach airspeed and how do you maintain it?
MAP, RPM, and mixture are things that I am trying to standardize on
and my instructor is pushing me to checklist these items. We're
currently using full rich, 2500RPM, and about 16"MAP as part of the
stabilized approach technique.
Suggestions and best practices appreciated!
3D printed glare shield - crushable ...Steve Melton
...sized for Dynon D100 - velcro attach. weight = 0.07 lb
Milestone: Panel IN ...stevenbgross
Panel is in airplane - month 13 of slow build 9A.
All Garmin, full IFR panel with permanent IPAD dock in front of
Gear/fairings/wheel pants complete
I was holding off the front top deck to enable the avionics
installation. Now that the avionics are in, and everything is
working, I am going to put the front deck on, finish the windscreen
and canopy, and then on to the engine.
This thing is starting to get very exciting!
Based on current progress, I plan to have the 9A out of the garage,
at the hangar for final assembly in the fall. I am in the DC Metro
Area. Hangars are expensive and hard to get. I have been on waiting
lists for 3 years. The hanger is 40 minutes away, so I am kind of
dreading the time when the project leaves the nest.
02-03/2017 Update ...j-red
(multiple pics) I've officially got
the RV grin! After the test flight several weeks ago, I, through the
aid of a forum member, located a local qualified CFI to give me
transition training and start the turn to final on my PPL.
Those who suggested that the transition to the RV would be
relatively simple and that the 6A was an easy flier were totally
right. I have about 100 hours in a low wing, stick and rudder LSA,
and so this plane just "fits" (albeit with out-of-this-world climb
performance, perfectly balanced controls, and gobs of speed!)
I've got a Sport Pilot license and lack about 5 hours of instruction
before taking the PPL practical. The instructor was thorough and
systematic in what he needed to see from me, yet sympathetic with
the need for the engine to break-in. His goal was to check me out as
quickly as practical so that I could spend the next few weeks
running at the power levels needed to seat the rings, yet the whole
time he tried to be aware of the need to keep the power up. To that
end, we tried to put the low power maneuvers at the end of the time
in the air. The engine now has about 5 hours on it: I have yet to
see any sign of oil useage and temps are very reasonable, so my
fingers are crossed that our training didn't harm anything.
Taxi Vibration Solved ...istrumit
I have posted a few times about this....vibration during taxi in
a low speed range.
No amount of air pressure adjustments, etc, has made any difference.
So, today, it was time to tackle this problem once and for all,
along with different problem I which I had a brake lock on landing.
I changed the brake liners today (not too hard to do) and, as a last
step, I jacked up the pilot side main gear to rotate it and make
sure the bearings sounded good.
Low and behold...that tire was out of round like crazy...very badly
out of round.
So, two new tires are on the way (I am sure the other one is a mess
too) and I expect this will solve the vibration problem.
I suppose this is what happens when you purchase and airplane that
sat in one place for nearly two years...I expected to have to put
about $5000 into it to get it right...so far I am about $3000 into
that number. I am happy with that!
March 14, 2017. Issue
Seeds down (at my home field). The drainage improvement project (pics)
is getting green. Rolling out more green mats in the next days.
100% the doings of the P.O.A. at
52F. Love seeing that progress...
RV-14 Canopy Fairing (and more) ...Tom Martin pictures
I have done a number of canopy farings in the past and had
intended to proceed as normal. In the spirit of learning new
techniques I followed Van's videos and plan directions for laying up
the canopy glass faring.
De-lamination Repair Suggestions Please ...jeffkersey
I did not build this airplane. On the right side of the my RV7A.
The skirt around the windshield is start to delaminate. Not sure if
a passenger caught it with a foot and got it started or what? Will
super glue bond this. Hoping to not have to do a bunch of gooping,
sanding, and painting to get it to stop...
Thanks for your thoughts...
ELT Activation - After Stepping Up On Wing
While pre-flighting yesterday I hear a beeping coming from the
cockpit. All switches are off. A quick glance at the ELT indicator
light shows nothing, and besides, the ELT sound is a whoop-whoop,
So I'm thinking it may be my high/low voltage buzzer, but the alarm
light is not blinking. So I continue to pre-flight while trying to
figure out what the beeping is.
Then my phone rings - its' the Air Force asking about my ELT going
I look back in the cockpit and notice the ELT light flashing.
I have a new ACK-E04 406 elt bought and installed last August.
When the annunciator lights up, there is a delay between flashing
which may be why I missed it the first time. Also, I was doing this
in bright sunshine so maybe that contributed to me missing it the
Also, I was expecting to hear the same "whoop-whoop" that you hear
over the radio. I was just wrong about that.
Anyway, I'm trying to figure out what to do next? The only thing I
could have done to trigger it was climb up on the wing - and I'm a
slow moving old guy who weighs about 150 pounds so this should not
have triggered it.
Any suggestions as to why this triggered and what should be my next
steps in resolving this?
Panel Porn ...frghtdg
First - Fly the Airplane... ...Greg Niehues
Had an interesting moment yesterday, I lost my airspeed
indication on rotation off the runway. With 2600' of runway and
wires on the end, it was a "keep going" situation.
This is when knowing the airplane really pays dividends. I know full
power solo with full tanks will give me 2000'/min climb, so I just
held about 1000'/min and knew I would be good. I leveled off and set
2500 rpm and 17" MAP which will always give me 100 knots, and came
back around to a long final. Pulled all the power and dumped 20
degrees of flaps and stuffed the nose down to the same angle I use
every time, and it worked this time just like every other, from my
flare and float I'm guessing I was maybe 10 knots fast over the
threshold. Turned out to be a non-event.
I chased the problem down to a broken TEE fitting where my pitot
line splits behind the panel to feed my backup EFIS with airspeed
data. This particular fitting came from the aviation department at
Lowes Hardware, and after 135 flight hours it decided it had served
its sentence and gave up.
Anyway - the upshot of all this - practice some slow flight
occasionally without airspeed info, or just turn off the EFIS
entirely and play with it. Learn how it feels and sounds, you never
know when that experience and time spent will pay dividends.
Governor Ball Joint Connector ...gyoung
I'm getting ready to attach my prop cable to the governor. This
is a redux of a circa 2001 install which used a ball joint
connector. The ball stud stayed on the governor arm but the cable
side has been lost. That was the standard method back then but Van's
doesn't seem to sell them now. ACS does but before I order a
replacement, is there a reason I don't hear any discussion about
this method and only about rod ends?
Vlad might be planning an 'around the world'
...guessing that got your attention <g>.
March 13, 2017. Issue
New Powerplant Milestone ...Norcalrv7
Nearly a year after starting this Subaru-Lycoming conversion, my
RV-7a took to the sunny skies over Eureka, CA. The engine ran silky
smooth without any hiccups. CHT's stayed in the mid 300's, and I ran
the engine at 25" and 2500 RPM at about 11:1 AFR for break in. After
the flight I cut the filter open, and found nothing abnormal.
Success! Now to fine tune all my fuel and timing values in SDS.
Late Winter Trip to Meet Some Aviation Friends ...Luke in Italy
16 yr Old Daughter Riveting ...pilot 28906
I had some riveting to finish on the fuse that required two
people. My 16 year old daughter used the rivet gun for 4 hours this
morning. She was a trooper and is quite good with the gun. Not sure
if the photo will work but my wife snapped it. I am in the tail
RV-8 Grin ...Champ
Son Tom checked out and down after first RV solo. Me to - soon.
Alton Bay Vid ...Vlad
Weight Reduction Mods ...Brantel
Just because the 3rd class medical is sort of a thing of the past
for some of us, that is no reason not to be responsible and take
care of ourselves so we can continue to enjoy our RV's for many
years to come.
Mid February I got back on the bandwagon in an effort to continue to
improve my health. Running every other day with at least 4 miles of
extra walking on the off days. Hitting the gym for strength training
every other non run day for at least an hour.
I decided to do an experiment to show myself how bad I was
destroying what I had worked so hard to accomplish over the past
month. Here is the result of that:
Turbo's Round Gauge Entry
Play in Wing Tip Hinge Install ...skyking902001
realize this is an old thread, but may help someone in the future. I
also had a loose fit on the right wing tip and already had both
halves of the hinge riveted in. I tried some .091 oversize
pins--helped some, but didn't cure the problem. The issue with the
hinges is there is some horizontal play between the eyelets on the
two halves—about .032” gap when one end of an eyelet is butted
against the opposite side eyelet. My solution was to add another
piece of hinge butted opposite from the existing hinge. I drilled
out 3 rivets holding the hinge, then I cut off 3 eyelets with the
dremel. I used some scrap hinge which I flipped upside down—I wanted
to keep the old hinge piece (less eyelets) in place. The part
flipped needs a .060” spacer to keep the eyelets in line. I
installed some dummy hinge with a pin to keep everything lined up,
then I used side clamps to secure the new hinge piece as well as a
small screwdriver blade jammed between the eyelets to hold the piece
in place. I match drilled using the wing tip and existing hinge as a
guide. After it was all clecoed together, I checked and sure enough,
no play in the hinge! I squeezed in some -6 rivets and called it
Multiple Panel Pics ...Jpm757
RV W&B Academic Briefing ...Vac first draft
Instrument Access Panel ...Niho_Ni's take
March 10, 2017. Issue
Audrey is at Irvine, CA being wined/dined re: their
PhD Chemistry program
Fri/Sat (they paid for the flight and hotel stay). She flew out
Thu a.m., so of course I looked up her flight on FlightAware. Dads
must supervise... Filed route is the first grab below
(HIMDU.DSNEE1). After looking at the planned arrival, I felt
obligated to inform her before she boarded via text that she was taking
the 'yellow brick road'. If you click on the second grab you'll
see 'GITRR DUUNN' on the MARUE.DDSNEE route, also. IFR humor...
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
IFR Rating at 65? ...Chris Smith asks
I am a PPL and have about 1,000 hours, all VFR in non-glass
cockpits. I started flying in 1967 and stopped in 1982. I started
again in 2004 when I decided to build a Sonex. I flew that for 150
hours and then bought an RV-4. I flew that for a couple hundred
hours and sold it and bought an RV-6. I flew that for a couple
hundred hours then sold it.
I'm 65 now, and being retired I have time on my hands. I thought
about going back to school (I live about 10 miles from UCF, where I
graduated in 1973 when it was still FTU!!), but then I thought maybe
I should go for an instrument rating.
So, a few questions for y'all:
1) Am I too old to take on such an undertaking?
2) How much can I do on my own, and how much do I need ground school
3) I've seen concentrated courses offered, for high sums. Are they
worth the money, and do they teach you how to fly IFR, or just how
to pass the written and flight exam?
4) Any other things I should be thinking of or considering?
Bending Roll Bar Inwards ...tgmillso
I discovered today that the WD-641 roll bar for my RV-7 slider
was 3/8" too wide, thus I consulted the instructions: "It
can be adjusted quite easily by hooking one end behind something and
pulling (to make it wider) or by putting one end on the floor and
leaning against it (to make it narrower). Go slowly. It is easy to
do too much." So I leaned it against the floor and put
every ounce of my pathetic 150lbs against it, and absolutely nothing
happened. I then went and got a truck ratchet strap, wrapped that
around the posts as low down as I could get it, and cranked as hard
as I could whilst still leaning on it, yet nothing happened (ok, it
bent now, but not enough to get even a fraction of plastic
deformation). It is apparent that when building an aeroplane, one
must calibrate their definition of "easily".
Home Ground Station - ADS-B on PC? ...Michael Robinson
My flight department at work has a giant flat screen TV behind
the front desk that we display SkyVector upon. I thought it would be
great to also provide ADS-B traffic on that display that emulates
our tablets in the cockpit.
then I figured we would just get a subscription to ForeFlight and
add a simple ground based ADS-B receiver on a pole outside the
But then I made the leap that perhaps we should just buy a Stratus 2
(or equivalent) for the flight department and then just plug it into
the PC for the times we are not using it to fly (dual use).
So - is there a plug and play architecture that allows ForeFlight
(or equivalent) sectional chart based flight planning software on a
PC and also allows input from an ADS-B receiver?
Does anyone have a PC based "ground station" at home using some of
their airborne equipment?
Thanks for the anticipated input.
Round Gauge Entry ...plehrke
Simple and traditional. Panel for the first 10 years of
flying up to a few weeks ago. In process of removing all vacuum
instruments but will be retaining the round instrument look.
New Guy Chimes In ...Jim A. in Denver.
Hey Guy's - Been lurking around for a while... Love the forums
and decided to join.
I fly a Bonanza and an RV-7a (currently being repaired because of a
nose gear failure and prop-strike
Love the commentary on this site!
Status Report ...(5) kentlik in OR pics
Straddling the CTR section to pound the rivets.
March 9, 2017. Issue
Seen at Monk's
...2014 Penny used as the button for opening the RV-8 oil door.
Enjoy the Video...Welcome John Licht
Van's RV-6/6A Formation practice in preparation for anniversary
celebration at Oshkosh. Taken at Whiteside County Airport,
Bittorf Field, Rock Falls, Illinois
July 23rd, 2016.
The 'Round Dials' Thread Starts ....tdhanson's idea
I'm proposing this thread to have a place where one can view
various old-style round gauges such as airspeed, altimeters,
turn/bank, engine gauges, and misc. for those designing a panel
using traditional gauges. It's easy to see the latest EFIS panel
screens and there's templates and pictures for that already by major
Sometimes a builder wants to build or replace a hole in their panel
with a 2 1/4 or 3 1/8 or other size hole.
Sometimes the look makes a difference. These could be true analog
guages, or even electronic or mini efis or led but fit in round
I'm proposing simple pictures and a link or mention of
brand/model/size/particulars if needed.
John Goodloe's entry
RV-10 Panel Status Report ...Patrick Kelley
So, sometime back I fried my VP200 units just in time to find
that Ballard had stopped supporting the system. Thankfully, that was
before I had completed my installation, so I sent it back to
Aerotronics for rework. While the VP-X system is not as nice (I was
really looking forward to the mode switching and being able to
operate my system from outside the aircraft using the key fob), it
still does the basic job though the lack of circuits meant I needed
two VP-Xs and also displays to operate them since the G900X does not
support Vertical Power. The solution? Replace my Dynon backup EFIS
with two GRT Sport system, one slaved to the other and each
supporting one of the VP-X units.
DIY Interior ...what Jim did
How about just gluing (spray contact cement) low nap carpet to
Baffle Clearance to Cowl Update Pics ...TimO RV-14
I took some pics today. Slightly larger ones on my website. The
pics aren't great but at least you can see the locations of where
the concern is. The pics here are *really* pretty poor, resized to
800 wide. The lighting was bad, too.
March 8, 2017. Issue
A sad day around our parts. At the time of publication, a
fisherman is still missing 1-mile from our airport (story).
His 2-yr old turned up in the woods 0930, and they found the boat, but
the 38-yr old father hasn't been located. I saw the news Tue
morning as I was headed out the door, and was planning on going up for a
bit, so I planned to avoid the area. When I got to 52F, I could
see there weren't any choppers in the search area so I turned that way
and loitered over the creek for a few minutes 1,000' agl looking up and
down the banks. I was hoping one of the SAR folks on the ground
would see my APRS tracker and HAM ID moving around on a laptop map and
put 2 and 2 together (that I wasn't a rubbernecker). I had KAFW
tower in standby and was going to chime in and IDENT if I spotted
something - the only plan I could come up with at the time.
Monitored 121.5 on the second radio. You could see boats looking
up and down the creek as well as fire trucks off in the distance.
After a few minutes a SAR person on the ground came up on 122.9 and told
me they were searching up to 400' with a drone. I asked if they
wanted me to leave, but they said they could use the eyeballs if I could
stay high. Absolutely. I
orbited the area for 45 minutes until a chopper for channel 4 chimed
in that he was five out inbound. I figured since there weren't any
other aircraft searching, the RV maybe could be helpful until others
showed up. More than one chopper was over the area for the next
several hours. Pretty helpless feeling...
Please keep the family and friends of those involved in your thoughts and
IAC Regional Series Winners
Congratulations to the IAC 2016 Regional Series Winners!!!
The aircraft types aren't listed, so I'm just going to highlight the
ones I know:
Ron Shreck RV-8 1st place Sportsman Northeast region
Patric Coggin RV-4 2nd place Sportsman South Central region
Bill McLean RV-4 2nd place Sportsman Southeast region
Ron Hill Pitts 3rd place Sportsman Southeast region
(yeah, Ron Hill flies a Pitts, but he has been known to fly an
RV-6 on occasion, so we'll give hime some credit! Plus he's
active here on VAF)
Way to go guys!!! I'm sure there were other RVs that placed, so
please shout out.
Just so y'all know. To be eligible for a regional place, you have to
have competed in at least 3 contests in the region. The national
championship can count for one of the regional contests. That's a
lot of practicing and flying to and fro.
Wanna Run the RV-3 Online World?
...Randy Lervold might be looking for someone to hand it off to.
I enjoy talking with Randy, even if he doesn't own an RV anymore.
RV Metal Signs ...Stephen
Here's a finished RV-10 sign that's for sale. $65 + Shipping is
what I am going to sell them for. The design possibilities are
endless and if someone wants a custom order, we can do that! You can
reach me @ 713-259-5125 and email is firstname.lastname@example.org for
AcroBox 2.0 Available ...Brad Benson RV-6A
Interested in aerobatics and looking for places which might be
potential locations to practice your IAC routine?
I wrote this app last year to simplify the process of finding
potential practice boxes and it worked pretty well. This year, I've
updated it with support for more devices (iPad Pro, etc.) and
additional sharing features. For example, if you have a box that you
like, you can instantly share it with someone else via AirDrop - no
WiFi setup, no email, no texts - just share it and it opens in
AcroBox on their phone or iPad.
As before, it still allows you to examine a location against both
VFR and IFR charts to ensure separation from airways, special use
airspace, etc. and it now also has street maps available in case
it's helpful to provide an approximate address for someone judging
from the ground.
A couple of quick screen shots showing the box used at Newton, KS
last year for the Aces High contest put on by IAC Chapter 119. The
aerial view shows the box, the boundaries, and the judges area,
while the IFR low chart shows conflicting airways (requiring a
waiver, which they had).
As always, the app is completely free (no ads, no unlock fees, etc.)
- aviation is expensive enough as it is.
March 7, 2017. Issue
RV-10 Construction Milestone ...Mark Ciaglia
What a rewarding experience. I have enjoyed every cleco, dimple
and river. I just passed the 200 hr mark.
What Just Happened?...Scott RV-10
I have been having a wheel vibration during a low speed taxi at a
certain speed (RV-10). Not bad, but irritating. The recommendation
has been to lower my tire pressure.
Last weekend I noticed my fairing on the pilot side had some play in
it. Maybe 1/2 an inch. So I took it off, managed to tighten up the
mounting plate (crows foot wrench, wo having to take the tire off).
I also broke the bolt holding the extender to wheel, so I had to
extract that and replace.
Anyway, long story short, it got it all back together and it was
solid, so what to do ? Go flying of course.
It was a very cross windy day, so when I landed I did not get
aligned and I landed pretty badly actually , in terms of alignment.
I was crabbed to the right, so the left main was leading the right
As soon as I touched down, the whole plane started shuddering like
an earthquake. I seriously considered I might break off a main.
I stomped the breaks and come to a full stop on the run way,
shuddering the who time.
Then, I tried to taxi. But no luck. It was going to be a left turn,
not matter how hard I stomped the right brake.
The fire truck came out to help me. I shut down and took a look. No
flats, no fairing rubbing...nothing obviously wrong.
So I started up again, tried taxiing. Got the shudder for a second
and could only turn left. Then it stopped and everything was normal
I have no idea what just happened. It seems like a stuck brake on
the left side or something jammed between the brake pad and the
Any ideas ? I am going to go take it all apart tomorrow, but I don't
even know what to look for.
Another Student-built RV-12 Start-up
Chapter Number 4 begins today in Omaha. AviationNation, Inc
enters its third state (Nebraska, now with Indiana and Texas) with
the delivery of their RV-12 tail kit. Jim Beyer, recently retired
Air Force pilot and now United pilot, will be the Chief Mentor. Look
for more start-ups in the next couple of weeks.
We are thrilled to be able to offer more and more students this
great opportunity. If you have aspirations of starting something
big, working with students might just be for you. Let me know what
you would like to do. See our page
here for more info, or PM
me. [ed. Bob, in case you don't know, the
FB link you mentioned is set to non-public - people (like me) who
don't use FB can't see it. Maybe you could have it set to
Status Shot ...Chattin35 -7
She wants out...
Tip Up Canopy Stops ...wjb DIY
Here are some photos of mine, made from L-angle. Fore-aft length
is 1.5 inches, the slanted vertical piece is sized so that the hole
for the positioner lines up with the existing tooling hole in the
bulkhead (which I enlarged slightly). The positioner is a mushroom
head screw originally intended for furniture assembly, available at
any HW store. If I was to do it over, I'd install a nut plate on the
back of the bracket and use a AN-3 bolt with a polished head. Once
you're in position, you only need to a few 32nd's of adjustment
Rusty Pilot Confessions ...Don
I felt the need to share my recent experiences of trying to get
back current after 24 years of not flying.
This came about since I had just received an AW for my RV 12 and
needed to fly it of course. My gut feelings were telling me that you
don't "forget" how to fly, so just crank her up and go be a test
pilot! Another little voice inside said, hey look at all the old
guys that built a plane then had bad experiences trying to fly it. I
am lucky, there are several RV12 owners, CFI people, that have a
LODA, letter of deviation authority, so they can instruct in their
experimental. One was only 500 miles or so away (Jetguy) and I had
received good reports from some friends who had used him, so I
I am so glad I did that. Maybe you don't actually forget how to fly,
but I can attest that you can sure get REALLY RUSTY! I could not
believe how bad I had become, and had I decided to just go fly it,
it would have ended badly for sure.. After 6 hours of dual in an
RV12, I had to interrupt for weather and scheduling, and I am STILL
not ready to fly this little simple plane by myself. With some more
hours, hopefully I will get back my skills as a pilot. If you THINK
you are ready, don't chance it, go get some dual and see if you
March 6, 2017. Issue
Thanks for the ride! ...wpar777
Jim Thill was kind enough to let me come up to his great hangar
at Cedar Meadows in WV and get my first ride in an RV-8. I am
currently building one and can only hope that it turns out as nice
as his. Hoping to be able to fly my own in for his 2018 BBQ!
One Week Out ...AX-O ice cream social
One week out. ....Just worked out
the gas price. It will be $4.09 per gal. On a different note.
If you sent me an email about attending, thank you. This year for
some reason the emails have been minimal. I have about 20 people
called in thus far. If you are coming out, please let up know so we
can buy enough supplies. Thank you.
How did you do that? (tight space rivet) ...Reflex
Your Experience, Exhaust Fumes in Cockpit Momentarily ...ron
I have flown in (3) RV9A s and have noticed a smell of exhaust
gas momentary at different speeds. Doesn't last but a few seconds. I
am thinking that like a semi pulling a long trailer in foggier
conditions where you see the trailing air disturbance behind the the
rear of the trailer's aft door that the same maybe happening where
as the exhaust comes in at the rear of the fuselage by the elevator
horns at rear of fuselage. I have the DOT carbon monoxide card
mounted on the instrument panel but never see it change color. Your
experience or thoughts. Was wondering if any pilots with the exhaust
pipe ends that were made pointing downward makes a difference.
3d Printed Accessories ...dtw_rv6
Here are a few of my 3d printed accessories - all in
polycarbonate and printed on my home brewed Prusa i3 style printer.
3d modelling is in solid works, and I use both Cura and Slic3r to
output the machine codes:
Rough Engine - Pool of Brake Fluid ...ELEDSALL
My latest attempt to run mogas in my Superior O-360 was not good.
I had good luck running it until the temps warmed up and then
problems. I suspected that my rough idle was due to mogas so I
drained one tank and replaced the gas with 100LL. No problems in the
flight around the patch. After landing, I switched to the mogas tank
to see if it was indeed the problem. Sure enough, before I could
return to the hangar my engine was barely running; coughing and
loopy idling. Super I thought; no engine problem just mogas.
After I limped back to the hangar, I felt my right brake go soft.
After shutting down, I noticed an ever larger pool of brake fluid
forming around the right tire. I rolled the bird back in the hangar
and within a few minutes, I had a pool around the left tire. I
thought that the vibration might be enough to brake the al tubing
that runs down the gear leg. I ordered braided lines and installed
them this a.m. As I went to reverse pump/bleed the brakes, fluid
immediately started running out of the brake caliper. I had not
found any breaks in the al tubing so I was already questioning my
analysis.... now I am baffled. Ideas please.
Cockpit Noise Solution ...flightlogic
Just a quick note to relate how we solved a high noise cockpit.
This is in OV-10 Bronco's. Lightspeed mic and headset. We found
installing not one... but sometimes two or three of the little
leather covers from David Clark fixed the issue. Cheap and easy. And
yes, they still need the hole in the back AND the front for the
passive noise cancel to work. (CAL Fire working planes).
March 3, 2017. Issue
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
A Gift for My Sister ...using the RV-6.
Yes, I used my RV-6 Thursday to
pick up a used vacuum cleaner I found on Craigslist. And yes,
I'm thinking about starting a 'What is the weirdest thing you've
used your RV for' thread.
You have to know my sister to know how much she'll like this...
3D Landing Light Bezel ...Weasel
Just an idea if you run into this. When mounting a landing
light in the wingtip, there is a gap around the light that needs to
be filled to finish the installation cosmetically. Here is
what we came up with. Thanks again to EAA and DS for providing
Solidworks to us for drawing the part in 3 dimension.
Updated Construction Pics ...kentlik 7A
Oil Cooler Air Inlet Work ...crabandy photos
Status Update ...Martin Leroux RV-8
Per my last post from yesterday evening, please see here below
the final product. With a new Throttle Quadrant Mounting Plate
raising the Throttle Quadrant by 3/8 inch, it is now flush with the
cover. Looking nice
RV-10 for Sale ...Mike Starkey
"With the impending retirement of my wife, and our relocation to
Nevada, it is time to turn over the keys to some lucky person who is
in need of a couple more seats than we will require in the future.
...we need the extra cash to build a house and hangar over in
Dayton. We will not even have a space for a plane until then."
March 2, 2017. Issue
A little milestone....Susie went flying with me Wednesday. Surgery
healing doing OK. In and out of the plane easy peazy. Up to
KGLE and back for gas (her first flight in the RV since 10/22/16).
courtesy AirPRS.com - note the
193kts data point on the way back (gonzo tailwind down the centerline).
That's 221.9 mph GS. She obviously doesn't fly much...so little in
fact I put a little 'S' in the margin in my logbook on flights she goes
with to remind me when (an 'A' for Audrey and 'T' for Tate).
Clear and a million today in N.TX.
(17) Ship Formation Including (4) RVs ...tc1234c
photo showed three RVs in a formation flight. It was from a
formation flight of 17 mixed airplanes. The flight was to give an
honored guest a ride in a formation. British Air Marshall Sir and
Lady Ian MacFadyen are friends of a few residents in the Spruce
Creek. When Sir Ian requested to fly with us we were happy to do it.
17 airplanes showed up, so we briefed and walked on the ground
before flying. Sir Ian flew with #17 Goofy and Lady Sally flew with
#16 Stu. Here is a video of the event.
March/April FAA Safety Briefing ...40 pages
RV-12 Nose Fork Data Point ...AllThumbs
On Feb-13 my wife flew me down to KWVI so we could look at an
RV-9A for sale. The RV-12 we flew had been carefully inspected and
there was no visual indication on the nose fork of any stress or
cracking. The plane is in of a club of 5 people, 2 of whom were the
builders. I did the wiring on it so we know this plane very well.
She joined the group to have a nice cheap way to keep current and
has really enjoyed it. RV-12s are magic.
Before we get a pile of replies: Yes we all knew about the SB. The
plan was to replace with the new fork model at the next condition
She made a perfect landing, gently set the nose down, and taxied off
uneventfully. But when we got to parking we had to make a fairly
sharp turn that probably turned the nose wheel to the stop bolts.
This was apparently the last straw for the nose fork and one side
sheared at the weld. Fortunately, there was no prop strike and we
didn't even realize it had failed until we shut down and got out.
Thanks to the fantastic builder community at KWVI for coming
to our aid! Sayid and Bill quickly gathered tools, helped us get the
nose wheel pant off, and assessed the problem - it was pretty
obvious since the wheel was at a 30 degree angle and the fork was
clearly broken at the weld.
Sayid knew of an RV-12 builder who was nearing completion and called
Bob. Bob drove 20 miles to the airport to open his hanger, removed
his already installed nose fork, and loaned it to us. Sayid and Bill
helped us (actually we just helped them) to install and tension it
and we were back on our way home just a few hours behind schedule.
We removed, cleaned and UPS'ed the fork back to Bob the next day.
This is the first time we've experienced this wonderful side of the
builder community in time of need and though I've been flying an
RV-6 since 2007 I was just amazed and grateful to these folks. Thank
Budget DIY Foggles ...greghughespdx
March 1, 2017. Issue
March Calendar Wallpaper
...courtesy Ed Hicks.
"17-ship mix of all sorts of types, but Ted Chang in his 9A
leading a -9 and a -12 caught my eye."
Status Report ...KazooRV-9A
Last weekend was a good one for RV building. Snowed all day here
in Kalamazoo and after having about a week of 50-60 degree weather,
it looked like the middle of winter again. So turned up the oil
burner in the shop and set to some building, with help from a couple
of guys who were surely escaping honey-do's back home.
The goal was to do something that would provide some measure of
visual progress. So the fuselage was targeted and we managed to:
Install the landing gear mounts
Installed the flap drive
Temporarily installed the fuel selector valve
Installed the Aux fuel pump
Moved the brake reservoir to the right for dual setup
Bent/formed the vent lines
Began to form the fuel lines
I'm beginning to realize that the hard part is keeping parts
on the plane. Seems like everything has to come back off 3 times
before they stay on for good!.
Status Report ...Chattin35 RV-7
Initial engine start yesterday. Fired right up and ran well. No
leaks! Only squawk was an inop EGT & CHT probe on the #3 cylinder (I
probably swapped red wires on the EIS4000 harness -- should be an
Getting closer to becoming an airplane
Mis-aligned camlock hole fix? ...rockwoodrv9
I have a James cowl I am doing the final fitting on and somehow I
have 3-4 holes I drilled that are off by about 1/8" or so to make
the fit along the top firewall correct.
I don't think just filling the hole with epoxy and glass fibers
would hold up to the shaking of the cowl. Putting another layer of
glass on the inside will make it too thick to fit properly.
My thought is to try and grind out on the inside so I can fill the
hole and put a glass patch to spread out the repair area.
The other option is to remove the camlock receiver plates, replace
them moved to make it fit better. I don't think I could re-use the
plates because they would only be moved a small distance and the
holes would not work out for distance.
Pedal RV Just Completed ...Mark for his son
February 28, 2017. Issue
First Flight ...Blain RV-8
Cold calm morning at PVF. Handed Doug the keys. Time to see what
it does. He orbited the field several times within glide distance.
Returned and reported straight and true. Does not have a heavy wing.
No rigging to adjust. ICom gave us some fits with all of the
possible program parameters. Small oil leak at a rocker cover.
Terrible video even after editing. Oh, well, better then none at
3 years and 9 months of steady work. Our landscaping reflects my
lack of interest in anything other then the RV.
Wow, I built an airplane...........
Baffle Clearance to Cowl ...TimO (RV-14)
I don't remember who tipped me off to this, and I couldn't find
it on a forum search, so I started a thread about it for everyone
Someone told me that they had worn thru or almost thru their cowl
because the aluminum engine baffling was rubbing on the cowl top. I
just put it on my checklist for the next time I had the cowl off.
This week I did, and sure enough on both the left and right sides, I
have spots on the cowl top that are wearing in pretty harshly. If I
had to guess I'd say I'm worn in maybe .030 or so.
The locations are, if I measure from the front outer corners of the
cowl by the air inlet, about 9 or 9.5" in from the front corners of
the cowl. The groves run maybe 1.5-2" long and then skip about 4"
further back and then there is another spot that hits. With the
baffle seals installed, it's tough to get a file on without wrecking
the baffle seal, but I did manage to file it down in those areas
I put some gorilla tape over the spots and flew it for a couple
quick flights, and yesterday I pulled the top cowl to check it again
and it's still hitting a little. It's pretty good now in most
locations with just one really heavy hitting area. I would suggest
maybe when you do your baffles, you look at those areas and maybe
about 8.5" to 15" back from the front corners of the cowl, I'd lower
the baffle sides about 1/8". That should help eliminate the issue.
You could go even further lower perhaps.
RV-14 Wings Done ...control in Sweden
John Mastro Plane Fun (RV-8)
Great weekend in Naples with the EAA Ford Tri-Motor. Went
for a ride with Cody (Chief Pilot). Eric gave up the front seat so I
could get a better view! Thanks Cody and thanks Eric! And
congrats to Eric who received his final check in the old bird.
3D Printed RV-12 Step End Caps ...madmaveric (U.K.)
While waiting for the finish kit I brought a 3D printer and got a
bit carried away at first printing epic world dominating monsters
(albeit a couple of inches tall and made out of orange plastic
but then looked at doing something for the aircraft that wasn't
structural or hard for a first time CAD design.
I made a 57mm panel drilling guide, then a rivet pusher (to help
push those rivets in the tighter holes) and finally a step plug
(just the fronts, I have left the backs open to allow any moisture
to get out).
Build Update...jwoolard and wife
We now have the fuselage ready to add side skins - but it looks
like we're going to be moving house soon, so will probably be a bit
of a pause.
7A 'Unbending' Status Report ...kentlik 'rebirthing'
This afternoon I finished riveting the center section. I had
pretty good luck for the most part. The difficult rivets
were...difficult. Having the correct tools helped immeasurably.
Now to flip it and get the skin on.
February 27, 2017. Issue
N705BC Airborne Today! ...Ben
After two months worth of weather delays, etc. my RV-7A N705BC
took flight today. I received transition training from Dave Austin
out of Denton, Texas who did a phenomenal job showing me the ropes.
I highly recommend Dave as he is a calm voice in the face of
information overload and unusual attitudes. Seriously, he has been
one of the most patient and effective instructors that I have had.
The plane flew beautifully, no squawks other than it will probably
need a small trim tab on the rudder due to the fact that "yours
truly" nailed the vertical stab straight down the fuselage
centerline rather than offsetting the leading edge 1/4" left of
center. I read the instructions after the fact. Really not too big
of deal but with 200hp on takeoff, a lot of right rudder is needed.
I started the project in 2004 with a really slow build. Building was
so much fun and flying is just icing on the cake! I learned a lot
and plan on building a 777 for my next project now that I know so
Much thanks to God who gave me much grace to do this (my nose art
will say "by the grace of God"). Much thanks to my family and
friends in which everyone pitched in with a helping hand at one time
or another. Much love to my wife who loved me enough to let me spend
many days and nights at the hangar. Many handshakes for those on VAF
that provided tips, advice, and answers to my endless list of
questions. I'm not sure that I would be finished yet if VAF members
had not have been there to give such great advice to get me thru the
head scratching moments. Lastly thanks to the many vendors on this
site that provided great products, great support, and great customer
service. The home building world is truly full of great people!
RV Aerobatic Clinic scheduled. Sign up here!
months ago I posted a poll to gauge interest in an aerobatic clinic
just for RV pilots. Enough of you showed an interest so it is going
to happen! The clinic will be held at Russel Regional Airport, Rome,
GA (KRMG) on 22-23 April. Chapter 3 of the International Aerobatic
Club (IAC) will be hosting the event and ground school presentations
will be made by myself and IAC Advanced World competitor, Mark
Fullerton. Aerobatic flight instruction will be provided by top IAC
competitors and judges.
This clinic is intended for RV pilots who have previously completed
basic spin/departure training in either a civilian or military
environment and have some degree of aerobatic experience. Flight
instruction at the clinic will be from ground observers. You will
not have an instructor in your airplane with you as we will
NOT be providing basic aerobatic training.
We WILL be providing instruction and critiquing from the ground by
highly experienced IAC competitors and judges with the objective of
preparing you for your first IAC competition.
IFR rating, a birthday present to myself ...Walt
The IFR rating was one of those "bucket list" items for me, and
finally after having my private for over 40 years and approaching
2000 hrs, I finally was able to get it done!
This last year all the stars finally aligned to make it happen. The
Garmin G3X panel upgrade a couple of years ago and the GTN650
install last year set this all in motion. This year finding a great
flight instructor that I really connected with, who had both the
type of experience that I was looking for (I didn't want to be
training the CFI on glass) and a personality I could deal with (I'm
a liberal minded New Yorker that says F&S a lot) was key. Someone
easily offended by my NY trash talk and sarcastic sense of humor
wasn't going work for me, or them.
I will say this, my flying is now on a whole new level. My
understanding and command of the systems and how to make this
avionics panel do what it was designed for has ramped up 10 notches.
SIDs/STARs Visually Depicted
FltPlan Go app (free).
A couple of screengrabs off my iPad today. Enter an airport in
the route, then click on 'Procedures' from the 'Edit' tab (pg 41 in
the manual). Tapping on one of the routes lets you add it
to the route. The split screen option lets you look at the
plate and map...or overlay it over the map.
The interface isn't as
user friendly as others, but it's hard to beat
click to enlarge
$10 Microbrew Valve-o-scope ...Pete Howell
Is it awesome, no. Does it do the job, yes. Is it the price of a
micro-brew, yes. The $10 valve-o-scope. It works for me - YMMV. Well
worth the 10bux.
Here is my setup: Cheapo $9.12 borescope(waterproof!!) The scope is
taped to a length of 14ga copper wire to get the required hook.
An old laptop running Linux Mint 18 with the "Cheese" webcam program
displays the video and can snap pics. Linux Mint is a cool, free OS.
A phone or tablet would work, too.
GAIRS Report for ADS-B Rebate ...Joshua Wyatt 9A
"...the FAA report was all green on the first try, and all
parameters had 0.0% fail. Hurrah! This is a GTX355/GPS.
Tip learned during the 91.413 transponder check: on the standalone
335 (and I presume 345) models, you may need to enter "ground test"
mode to complete the test. Power off and hold the "cursor" key while
powering back on; keep holding until the main screen appears. Power
off to return to normal operation mode. I didn't find this tidbit in
the pilot's guide or install manual, but I've filed it away since
it'll be needed every 2 years."
Questions from Non-RV Owners ...Scott Martin RV-10
So, I was loading up my 10 last Monday for a 1.5 hour flight back
I had my wife, my 15 year old son (who is taller than I am), my 12
year old daughter (who is the same size as my wife), myself, our 50
pound dog, our luggage, a K-cup coffee maker (luggage), and 40
gallons of fuel.
A friend of mine at the airport saw this and asked me who was
staying behind. He was serious.
I said, "no body - we're all headed back".
He couldn't believe it.
I was still 120 pounds under the weight limit and well withing CG.
Could have still been within limits with full fuel.
And I easily made 170 knots at 7500 feet all the way home.
Panel Upgrade Shot ...Dreamin9
Recent upgrade installed by Jesse Saint, designed by Jesse and
myself. A simple design that took a lot of back and forth to get
Twin Dynon Touch
Garmin G5 on the left
Top center are the Knob, Autopilot, Comm controllers. Then Garmin
625, Garmin SL40, Garmin 240 audio panel
February 24, 2017. Issue
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
Eagle's Nest Projects - Josh Enberg 1st Solo (Central HS WI)
Introducing Josh Engberg – Central High School’s
most recent “1st solo” pilot.
Please welcome Josh to the VAF community, and if you have any words
of wisdom or encouragement for Josh, please share that too. We’re
all proud of you Josh… keep up the great work!
Remarks from Josh:
“I felt nervous as I began my first solo flight, but it quickly
turned into one of the most exciting and rewarding experiences of my
life. Being the only passenger in the plane made it handle very
differently; it felt very light and maneuverable. I feel blessed
that God put Mr. Senft, Mr. Putra and the Eagle's Nest Project in my
life because I want to pursue an aviation career. All the mentors
and donors are so dedicated to the students. I know only a handful
of students get this opportunity; it's amazing that I'm one of
Aerosport RV-10 Panel Install Videos ...Geoff Combs (VAF advertiser)
Alaska trip - video ...hawkeyestof
Some (hopefully) motivation and a cure for your mid/late winter
building blues - 8 or so minute amatuer video/photos of my RV-8A
trip to Alaska. Texas to Whitehorse, Fairbanks, Nome, Denali,with
some float plane and bush plane flying. Enjoy - keep
pounding/pulling them rivets.
New website with new options...bind insurance coverage online
(Leah Ringeisen @ Gallagher)
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companies, we will be happy to do so. Just click on the “Get a quote
from our team” option.
What Is Flutter? ...RV8JD Presentation
Although Flutter has been discussed in previous
threads, I don't believe it has ever been defined or explained well.
To remedy that, I extracted some slides from a presentation I
previously put together. It first explains basic concepts such as
vibration, frequency, modes, damping, etc., so the concept of
flutter can be understood. Since flutter is only one of several
aeroelastic phenomena, others such as buffet, static divergence, and
control reversal are also discussed.
Synthetic Vision Failure Incident - Safety Report ...rjtjrt
This is a report from Australian Safety Bureau,
relating to synthetic vision misleading indication on take-off.
Whilst this is due to misleading input from rad alt causing the
synthetic vision to malfunction, it is still of note that Synthetic
Vision is fallible, and highly experienced pilots had enormous
difficulty ignoring the false display even when they realized it was
misleading, as well as the usefulness of a standby instrument that
did not have synthetic vision.
Cowl Interference ...BluSkyRidr
This is my current issue I am working through. I bought the titan
engine new from the manufacturer. Before I bought the motor I placed
a call to Vetterman for one of his exhaust systems, He mentioned
that I need to only use the Superior cold air sump with his exhaust.
I let the salesman at titan know that tidbit. Unfortunately, with
the cowling on I do not have enough room for the throttle servo to
mount the induction snorkel, let alone have the approriate clearance
with the cowl. It has a little less than 1/4". (See attached photo)
The sump is a superior cold air sump and the throttle servo is a
I have no experience with either. Unfortunately Titan doesn't make
their injection system anymore, that would have been the best option
as it was 2 inches shorter. I think I bought the engine right as
they stopped making their injection system. The motor was purchased
before continental motors bought them.
My question for this forum is which option is best or are there
other options that won't cost me power and/or screw up the cowl
A) I go to a 7 degree Titan sump. This means that I can't use the
Vetterman exhaust. I will probably have to use the titan exhaust.
Will I loose power? The motor dyno'd out at 204hp. The more power
the better in my opinion. This means no cowl modification. Depending
on what Titan does this could add on a significant cost to the
B) Modify the cowl with a pimple/blister to accommodate the longer
throttle servo and try and fill it as best as possible. The blister
will be around 3/4" out on the cowl and would screw up a **** good
build and airplane in my opinion.
+1 for Cat Whiskers on Top of VS ...ScottSchmidt
I have Bob Archer and it does not have the range of a cat
whisker. If I were building again, I would put the cat whisker on
top of the VS. Strasnuts on this forum has that on his RV-10 and it
looks great and is completely out of the way from people (at
Oshkosh) breaking off your antenna.
Just cut two slots in the top of the VS and it fits perfect up
February 23, 2017. Issue
Hello Old Friend....
Susie got her abdominal staples out Wednesday morning and has
been cleared by the doc to drive. One bandage left...changed
daily with ease. The Wx was nice in N.TX (in the 80's) with
light winds after lunch, so I went out for .2 of alumitherapy in the
skies over Monkeytown. It had been twelve days. Forecast
windy Thursday here, so this was the opportunity.
It really, REALLY felt good to get back in the sky.
Apalachicola/St. George Island ...Crabandy trip report
My wife mentioned something about wanting just one
day on the beach without the kiddos, I couldn't think of a better
way to spend a day with my wife. I made all the arrangements so my
somewhat reluctant wife couldn't say no. She's still adjusting to
riding in the RV and this will be her longest ride by far.
Since the RV has been flying the only thing on my Christmas/Birthday
wish list has been Avgas, it's been several years and I almost
forgot about the stash this bank held for our trips together. I
pulled out all $320, divided by $3.75/gallon = 85.33 gallons of
avgas for a little over 10 hours of flying at my 8 GPH average.
I'm a New Instrument Pilot ...Larry RV-6A
Last fall, I set out to gain my Instrument rating. I
did all of the training in my RV-6A and today passed my check-ride.
I thought it was a great experience to learn these skills in my RV,
as they taught me from the very beginning how diligent you must be
on flying the airplane and that any distraction can allow you to
wander. I think back to my first lesson and how far behind the
airplane I was. I suppose it could be discouraging for some, but
when it finally comes together, it is a great sense of
accomplishment. I have to say that the advanced EFIS technology
really makes some of this easy enough that I sometimes feel like I
am cheating. My partial panel was covering the HXr and flying off
With that said, I appreciate that I am ill equipped to fly a 6 pack
airplane and would get rededial training if I ever chose to fly one.
To those that are considering going for their rating in their RV, I
would encourage you to do so. The upside here is that I feel
comfortable and confident in the airplane that I will be flying.
Thanks to those here that helped me by being a safety pilot!
Lawsuit Dismissed ...mothership
click to enlarge
NTSB Identification: WPR14FA218
[ed. Thank you for respecting the forum
rules regarding getting into the ins and outs of tort reform and
lawyers. Nearly half a million
choices online for that. Congrats to the factory for
getting this dismissed. v/r,dr]
February 22, 2017. Issue
2/20/2017- The second first flight of N94CR ...j-red
I watched from the ground as a remarkable
professional took to the air in 94CR yesterday afternoon. I can't
imagine I could have been more excited even I were in the cockpit
myself. Almost as soon as the ground roll commenced, she leaped into
the air. Both of us who were watching from the sidelines could
hardly believe that it happened so quickly. "Was that even two
hundred feet"? asked my friend. For the next half hour, we watched
and listened to the yellow speck in the sky as the test pilot flew
it through a series of maneuvers. It was only then that it occurred
to me: This project was begun almost exactly nine months ago- it's
like our family has just had a new baby! (My wife does not read this
blog, or else she'd smack me right about now and explain how nine
months of hanging out in the shed doesn't even come close to the
pain and suffering of childbirth... and she's right, of course, but
in the moment the comparison seemed appropriate!).
Fire Extinguisher Position? ...in the RV-12
New Guy Introduction ...Randy Pulis RV-10
After a number of months lurking and wishing and more recently
having met two local fabulous members who are building an RV7 and
have just built an RV10, I've decided to commit myself to an RV 10.
The empennage is "in the mail"!. I wanted to introduce myself to
this group. My name is Randy and I am from St. Albert, Alberta,
Canada. As a first time builder, I'm very sure that I'll relying of
the vast knowledge that the members of this forum collectively
share. I look forward to building and to following others builds
along! It is nice to belong to such a wonderful community!
All the best!
St,Albert, Alberta, Canada
ADS Rebate Program – Piece of Cake ...Chris Pratt RV-8
For those who have been thinking about installing ADS-B in time
to apply for the FAA rebate, I encourage you to do so. It was much
easier than I thought it would be. Keep in mind the Rebate Program
ends on or about September 18, 2017 or sooner if all 20,000 rebates
are taken. I have seen no information of the program status at this
point. So now may be a good time to start depending on the
availability of your installer.
Before I relate my experience, let me tell you what equipment I
chose and why.
My primary interest in ADS-B, aside from the mandated requirement
to install by 2020, was to obtain the benefit of airborne traffic
alerts and weather. I operate out of the Dallas-Fort Worth area and
the skies can be quite busy especially with VFR aircraft skirting
the Class B space. Rather than install the unit myself, I asked Walt
Aronow at 52F to do the install and recommend the equipment.
Since traffic and weather was important to me, and I have steam
gauges other than my portable Garmin 496, we agreed the Garmin
GTX345 would the best unit for my needs. I took advantage of the
fact that the GTX345 can be equipped with built-in encoder and GPS,
so all my altitude reporting needs would be met as well as a
reliable GPS signal for positioning and traffic. This also required
an upgrade of the Garmin 496 to a new Garmin Aera 660 that is
designed to take weather and traffic information directly from the
GTX345. Unfortunately the 496, which I love, cannot be fed the
traffic or weather info.
So out came my old Bendix/King KT76A, Ameri-King AK-350 blind
encoder, and Garmin 496. (I’ll be offering them for sale on Doug’s
RV-6 tank fit saga ...BruceMe
I'm having fits fitting my RV-6 tank. The original was all dented
in from a flip-over accident, so I'm rebuilding.
For background on me... I built a 'slow-build' (non-pre-punched
anything) RV-4 from 2003-2008 so I thought this wouldn't be that
hard. Boy was I wrong.
I [ahem] "winged" the first new tank build referencing the plans for
left/righ layout, parts and measurements but really just eye-balled
from the broken tank. It all went together as smoothly as pro-seal (bleck)...
Fit, drilled, dimpled, cleaned gooped and I was happy enough. The
trouble came when I went to fit it to the wing. I was also repairing
the outboard leading edge skin and had it off when I fit the tank...
<<<< BIG MISTAKE HERE
A rebuilt this tank using the special oversized W-601 skin. They
have long flanges (by design) which are there to be trimmed to match
the outboard skins. Except... I didn't have them on and I didn't
realize that until _AFTER_ I put the outboard skin on at which time
the 1/2" gap on the leading edge looked so amateur-built-hour.
For the second attempt; I was fed up making tanks. I gave it to a
very RV experienced friend who I have subsequently learned has only
worked on and built pre-punched airframes. Yeah... <<< SMALLER
A slow-build airframe is a one of a kind. Think 1960's vintage
English car looks beautiful but you can't swap parts.
My kind friend made the cardinal sin of thinking the plans as gospel
and the instructions are there to answer any residual quandaries.
I had to let out a good laughed when he said... "The instructions
don't say anything about trimming the flang?!" To this I chuckled
and replied, "The slow-build instructions are filled with sage
advice like 'Attach F-401', That's it... nothing else." If you get
this, you built one.
Where modern pre-punched RV kits are like hiking the Appalachian
trail with a guide dog, the old builds are more like doing the same
with a ratty old miners map from 1904.
So I'm on my third attempt. My first build was closest; we'll do it
that way again and now that the outboard skin is on, I will trim the
aft tank flang to match the bracket to the fuselage and the tank to
the outboard skin. Third time's a charm
Keep the hammer down!
February 21, 2017. Issue
A little milestone Monday for our family. Susie
and I went out for lunch (her first trip outside the house since getting
out of the hospital last Thursday evening). She wanted chopped
BBQ....and got it. Continuing to heal, and things are getting
easier to do each day. A whole new level of respect for the
caregivers of the world...
Audrey hung out with Sue for a couple of hours Sunday morning so I could
drive out to the airport and check in. Said 'Hi' to the RV-6 and
promised to come fly it in the next week if possible. Downside?
Haven't flown in too long. Upside? The house is cleaner than
its been in a long time <g>.
On the way to South Bend... Pete Howell photo
My son Ryan and I got up early on a crazy warm and clear Sunday
in February to go have lunch with Mom in South Bend. We had a great
trip. Mom was thrilled, and we had some great vistas along the
way...... 800 miles in the air, an easy day in the RV.
Somewhere over Western Sconnie after sunrise, some mist in the
for larger image)
First Flight For RV-8 C-FDTQ
The weather finally improved enough to go for first flights
combined with engine break in this weekend. All in all got in 6.6 hr
with air under the tires. We have a friend who is also a test pilot
in the certified world do the honours. He is also an RV-3 owner and
has experience in the 6 & 8A and a lot of other stuff. His
reputation is that if there is the slightest snag he will find it.
I'm glad to say his list was short and mostly minor. It flew
straight, stalled clean & straight, handled like an 8 should, and
ran very smooth.
Son started his check out. Mine will start after I shift the ground
adjustable rudder pedals aft to make up for my lack of height.
Here is the first flight video. Sorry the wind noise messes with the
beautiful sound from the IO-375 four pipe.
The New Guy ...Darrell
Started building a kit plane about 8 years ago- a Zenith 601 and
then they started having wing problems. Got rid of it and now just
ordered and received the empennage kit for the RV 9A and I'm having
a blast! What a neat kit with great quality. I live in Southern
Oregon and would appreciate any help from anyone especially from
someone living near Medford, ORE. that can give advice. I have no
idea who might be the DAR for this area. Which brings up the
subject, do most builders go thru a DAR or FAA for their build? I
also wonder how many people use a pneumatic squeeze?
I Learned About Flying From That: My Longest Trip to Vegas (Flying
Two pilots face icing conditions on a night flight across the
By Paul Teirstein. Barry Ross illustration
guys. I'm torn. I'm torn between building, buying, what
to build, what to buy, etc.
Did you ever regret getting a vans kit, realizing later that you
needed more space
A little about me
family of three girls and one man, me
My business takes me to surrounding states
love to travel by airplane, hate driving
Im not sure what i should be looking at as far as a kit planes
Want the RV-10, because i would like to think my girls would travel
with me, but i don't know if that would the the reality.
Like to have a sportsman 2+2 because it s a high wing and utilizes a
How many of you have bought with this mind set only to find out you
were wrong. The mindset being passengers, you bought because you
thought you would be taking more people
If i was going 2 person it would be a 14, but i really want the
option of a 4 person plane. I love the RV-10, but how long will it
be before vans may come out with a better 4 person plane? The 10 has
been out now for quite some time.
Im just lost as to what to get. I joined the EAA and have looked for
a very active chapter to join locally (metro Atlanta).
Would love to hear your thoughts on why you bought what you bought.
Fixing a random screw in elevator
I bought a used empennage kit and while inspecting an elevator I
noticed a screw where there should be a rivet. It's held on with a
lock-nut on the other side. When removed there's a big hole. Do I
put the nut and screw back and call it good? Is there an acceptable
fix for this?
New Rotax Oil Tank Weeping? ...Paul Straub
Hi all, I could use some advice....I received my new Rotax from
Van's a couple months ago. In preparation for the first engine
start, I have been adding all the fluids, etc. I noticed a random
drop of fresh oil on the floor, directly under the oil tank. It
appears to be coming from these strange indentations on the bottom
of the tank. I have no idea what these marks are for?? The oil is
not coming from the drain plug or washer. I guess I could fill them
in with pro-seal, or should I just drain the tank and get it
replaced under warranty? Thanks for any thoughts
February 20, 2017. Issue
Status Report ...David Paule
Moving along to the flap handle, another assembly that can be
made now, I had the idea of using an RV-12 part, VA-110, for my
RV-3B manual flap handle button. I called tech support to see if it
would fit and was told that the size would be the same as for the -3
because they wouldn't change something like that. Hah! But the
support guy was good enough to check it for me, and found that in
fact the -12 part was too big and wouldn't fit. No surprise, really.
Took the builder's class. Trip report, misc stuff.
I met my first builder, and saw his RV-14. His build is coming
along very nicely and looks wonderful. My local EAA chapter meetings
are Saturdays, but I'm spending every second of every weekend in the
plane trying to finish my PPL, so I might not get there this month.
After getting a couple recommendations on here, I decided to take
the class at Synergy Air in Eugene Oregon. It was being held on my
birthday, so I found low priced airfare and went. I'd simply like to
say that finding the lowest price airfare and using a certain
airline made the idea of plane ownership much more attractive.
I hadn't ever been to Oregon before, and the drive from Portland
down to Aurora was beautiful. The tour of Vans was a lot of fun, and
after sitting in an RV-7 and RV-14 in their hangar, I'll be
contacting their east coast guy for a test ride in a 14. I'm tall
and I like how two people fit inside it better. If you haven't taken
the tour at Vans, I highly recommend it. The staff were friendly and
I spent the rest of Friday driving down to Eugene, paying my class
bill and visiting the Oregon Air and Space Museum. The museum is a
couple hundred feet from Synergy. If you're ever at the airport in
Eugene Oregon, I recommend this museum. Entry was $7. They have some
very interesting homebuilt aircraft in the museum. A 1/2 scale
Vought Corsair, 1/2 scale Mitsubishi Zero, 1/2 scale Messerschmidt
109, a Bede BD, a Rutan Quickie, a few others that I can't recall.
They have a collection of over 1000 1/64th scale models that a local
guy built, from the Wright Flier to modern military planes, and a
ton of aviation type memorabilia. The guy that I believe might be
the owner walks around and talks to people a lot which was nice
Saturday was my class. For most people on here, this stuff is all
old-hat to you, but for me the class was awesome. I had never done
any of the things we learned, and loved every second. Figuring out
the plans, deburring, riveting. After a fun day, we had a small part
that looks like a rudder. The class was me, 1 other student and the
instructor. Definitely another huge plus of Synergy. I didn't want
to go home. Working in their hangar and seeing about a dozen planes
in various stages of construction was inspiring.
Now its time for me to acquire tools, get the garage ready, order my
kit, and get moving. If anybody has any tips, as the eager new guy
I'd love to hear them.
Interior Spotlight ...Luke D.
3D Printed Seat Belt Holder
Teen RV-12 Build Program in San Antonio
We've started our RV-12 (s/n 121030) build at Hallmark
University's facility at San Antonio Int'l Airport (SAT). We are
building the empennage kit with a small group in a pilot class.
We are also seeking more mentors to help with this program. If you
are interested, please contact me for details.
Visit our Facebook page
February 17, 2017. Issue
We're home as of 5pm Thursday (This
that). Six days in the hospital. Now the hard part
starts...<g>. Thanks again for all the kind notes of support.
It's nice to be home.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
"Found on condition inspection. Rudder was extremely
sensitive in flight. Had to keep constant pressure on pedals
or plane would wildly oscillate in yaw. Had a pounds of Home
Depot expanding foam inside rudder (supposedly to prevent oil
canning of .016" skin). Rudder skin weight 5.5 lbs when
Houston builder/flyers/dreamers/randoms sporadically-monthly-ish
Sorry guys, I dropped the ball again last month on setting this
up. Let's see if we can't get back in the groove again. Saturday
is looking pretty nice, let's meet up at Weiser at 11:30
for some BBQ and tall tales.
See you there!
Status Report ...goatflieg
"...this photo says it all. I'm tempted to share
this in the "Photo of your RV on the ground" thread... because it is
indeed on the ground."
West Coast Formation Clinic, WCFC 2017 ...AX-O
I’m pleased to announce this year’s West Coast Formation Clinic,
Like every year we are expecting that we will receive more
applicants than we can safely support. The management team will
evaluate applications and contact participants as soon as possible
after the application period closes. Applications will be accepted
until March 1st. Please remember that the management team does this
for fun and to help the RV-community be safer when performing
formation flying. This is NOT our job; please give us time to figure
out this complex event. There is a lot that goes into making this a
To apply and/or for additional details, visit the WCFC 2017 website
Date: Apr 28-30 of 2017
Location: Madera, CA (KMAE)
If you have any questions, please contact me or any of the POCs
shown on our web site. Hope to see you there. Thank you,
Axel and the West Coast Formation Clinic Management Team
EFLEVA Days 2017! (Belgium)
I am proud to inform you that we scheduled EFLEVA Days for the
first time. More information is available on this website:
http://efleva-days.eu. EFLEVA is the European Federation
of Light, Experimental & Vintage Aircraft and respresents European
aircraft builder and restorer organisations. Feel free to send
me a message if you want more information.
February 16, 2017. Issue
Pathology Report Finally In: All good news. Click the image
to read. Day 5 at the hospital. 0830 shower (first since
last Saturday morning). Got out of bed by herself for first time,
also. Real food at dinner.
Thanks again for all the kind notes of encouragement - reading them all
Finally Got My RV! ...Superman1s
I retired from motorcycle racing last year. Received my PPL
12-27-16. Did all my training and check ride in a Citabria 7GCBC.
After months of research, today I purchased a very nice RV7. Now I
need to learn the plane! Flown it a few times, everything happens so
much faster than it does in the Citabria, it's going take a while to
get use to! Haven't done a wheel landing yet, only 3pt. I helped the
owner/builder do the annual which went very well. I'm very nervous,
never owned an aircraft other than RC stuff, big leap! Can't wait to
go to new places, meet new people & pilots.
A few specs:
IO-360 200 HP
RMI engine monitors
Trio AP coupled to 430
Inverted fuel/oil and bunch of stuff I'm forgetting!
Using nutplates to on elevator counterweights
Based on a few threads where people had issues with loose
counterweights (and suggestions to use floating nutplates to fashion
a better way to tighten them), I decided to make a couple of
retaining plates for my elevator counterweights. I used floating
nutplates and some scrap aluminum. I like the way it turned out. Too
late to do similar on the rudder, hoping the locktite will do the
Milestone - Wings: DONE!....George Fahmy
Its been a long time since I've posted on the forums, been doing
a lot of work (not on my plane) and reading the forums a lot, can
always find the answers I'm looking for here! But, I have finally
reached the point where I can say the wings are done.
Full disclosure, theres still one skin remaining to be riveted, and
the wingtips, however that will be done later on when i move the
project to the hangar probably.
I'm hoping to work on the project more often, but work has been
keeping me busy, I have made some progress though which is keeping
me motivated. I have updated information on my website and pictures
It feels good to have come this far, I know I am going to enjoy the
Ice Cream Social Update ...AX-O
This year we will have cupcakes again and to-go boxes in addition
to the ice cream.
I am working on gas prices however, we will have to wait until the
next load of fuel is bought before I can get a final price.
About 3 weeks out. get the RSVPs in. Thanks.
February 15, 2017. Issue
Still in the hospital - day four. Some nausea in the a.m. (a new
thing), taking meds for that which made her sleepy. Morphine pump
removed noon. Four walks around the nurse's station throughout the
day, each one a little smoother. Many potty breaks.
Thanks again for all the kind notes of encouragement - reading them all
Multiple Status Report / Pics
...Andy in Kalamazoo
Some more work this past weekend. Riveted the ribs to the spars
on the right wing, and put the top skins on for match drilling. Lots
of holes I'm starting to realize! I find I will need more silver
Wife made some RV builder brownie's for the group of us, which
powered us through the day. (there's a few of the local EAA Chapter
members that I suspect like to escape Saturday honey-do's, to work
on an RV).
Don't Forget the Towel
Just a friendly reminder to drop-proof your plane while riveting.
Tonight I was riveting the back deck on the tailcone after removing
it to replace a piece of angle (long story). After shooting a few
rivets, I thought to throw in an old towel - moments before this.
I did almost the exact same thing a couple years ago - without the
towel - during the initial assembly. It is now where my VOR antenna
will be mounted.
Happy birthday! First condition inspection
It's been a great year with the RV-9A. I've put 112.9 on the
Hobbs so far, and have flown from my home airport of Cable in
Upland, CA to Arizona a couple of times (Chandler and Sedona) and a
quick gambling trip to Jean, NV as well. Most of my flying is 30-45
minute breakfast hops to French Valley and Camarillo, and I've been
to Hemet, Fallbrook, Fullerton, Hesperia, and Gillespie Field a
couple of times. Did the SFRA route over LAX and loitered a bit over
continue / many pictures
Trust in Our Airplanes
This is a take-off on a previous thread that raised concerns
about the trust we have in our airplanes. I have a different take:
I have trust in the theory that stuff will happen, things will fail,
and non-standard procedures may have to followed. And I better be
mentally prepared to deal with it - always.
I have carefully - and often - thought through the what if's. For
Engine Problems: The usual suspects - retard throttle, switch tanks,
elec boost pump on, check mixture, check ignitions - one Lightspeed,
Forced Landing: Be constantly aware - pick the best landing option
(I regularly fly over the Southern Sierra, so this has become second
nature); try to determine wind; I stall at 50 KIAS dirty -
regardless of descent speed, plan to touch down at 52. Assume 1 1/2
miles glide per 1000 ft. altitude loss at 90 kts; DO NOT STALL.
Electrical Failure: Electric Bob's Z13/8 architecture gives me an 8
amp backup by throwing two switches; also have batteries in my AFS
4500 and 496 - assume 30 minutes max.
AFS-4500 failure: Know approximate prop and mixture lever positions
for various flight regimes; assume conservative 10 gph fuel flow and
know fuel remaining in each tank (I stay on one tank until 20
gallons used); Backup Nav: Foreflight on an iPad, SL-30 Nav radio;
TruTrak ADI II autopilot and Garmin 496 for probably good enough
attitude info; assume oil pressure and CHTs will be good enough
until on the ground.
Radio Failure: Backup ICOM in the panel, Sporty's handheld in the
Airspeed Indicator Failure: Turn on heated pitot tube; A/S displayed
on both AFS 4500 and backup steam gage; AOA installed in the 4500;
groundspeed readout on the 496; knew the general feel and sound of
the plane at various airspeeds - especially near stall.
Have never in 820+hours and 542 flights had to revert to any of
this, but just as I trust stuff to fail, I also trust my ability to
February 14, 2017. Issue
Mon 0930 first food since Friday p.m. (Jello). Still looking more
Borg-like than Susie with tubes connected to her legs, fingers, arm,
nose, etc., but says she's feeling better (more info on Feb 13 note
below). Ate broth at lunch, which is a big deal if you haven't had
any for nearly two days. 1615 walked around the nurses station
for the first time (slowly). It's been a long day, but a little
progress. The pain is now mostly recovery-oriented (incision) and
not the abdominal pain from before.
The staff at the hospital are consummate professionals and compassionate.
A couple of the nurses are on loan from Heaven. Thank you for the
many emails, PM, texts, calls, posts of support and especially prayers.
It is very much appreciated by our entire family.
From the mothership...
Long time lurker that is finally pulling the trigger (aka wife has
given approval lol)!
I have assembled most of the tools, slowly working on the practice
kits, and getting the garage all ready. I've taken 3 EAA workshop
classes and it's all starting to come back to me now.
This April I'll be ready to order an rv10 empennage!
I am in the Utah area and would love to ride in a 10 (or any RV for
that matter!) if anyone happens to be flying near KPVU or U77. I
would be happy to help /w cost!
I have enjoyed following this form and I'm excited to finally be
starting my own journey of building and airplane.
She's finally at the airport for final assembly!
Status Report / Pics...Rubber seals in wheel pants ...Crabandy
Debriefing your flight (overlaid on the chart)
(I wrote this a few hours before we went to the E.R.
There really is nothing special about this flight last Friday -
20 min. to take off, shoot the practice DTO ILS and back to the home
field. What did strike me later as maybe newsworthy was the
technology behind creating the picture of the track overlaid on the
chart. If there is anyone working on their instrument rating,
like I was a little over a year ago, you might find it helpful to be
able overlay your flying lessons over the charts you're practicing
How I created it:
1. Study for three hours and get your ham radio license, then
purchase an APRS tracker. More on this at the bottom of
www.vansairforce.net/APRS.htm. Go fly. Use
www.airprs.com or equivalent to
pull up a picture showing where you flew. Get a screen grab of that
(if you're using an iPad you can just press the power and home
2. Get a screen grab of your flight planning software with the
chart overlaying the map (I use Garmin Pilot).
3. If using an iPad you might consider using
Photoshop Mix app to combine the images (it's free). Use a
voice to text dictation program such as Dragon or your iPad's
Notepad app to dictate the story so you don't have to type it…like I
did with these words here. Minor fixes on the PC afterwards...
Click for entire image
Me in the pattern at 52F - every RV flight since Oct 9, 2016 (viewed
February 13, 2017.
No Monday edition. Spent the weekend at
the hospital (wife had
hemorrhagic ovarian cyst that presented as acute appendicitis).
Surgery...the works. Recovering and expected to stay a couple more
days. Tired. Talk tomorrow maybe. v/r,
February 9, 2017. Issue
RV-3 At Randy Richmond's Shop (card)
...in the shop for some love.
Major Milestone ...Sully from Euless, TX
After nearly 12 years (yes I am somewhat ashamed of
that number!) Mr. Mel Asberry came over and made N627RS a real
Ran Great Until it Didn't - Cold EGT and CHT at low RPM ...Raymo
I recently finished my -7A and started flying, which
has been enormous fun. Lycoming O-360-A4M out of a 2002 Piper Archer
that was wind damaged and had 1100 hours since OH in Aug 2014
(flight school plane).
After the 3rd flight, the EGT and CHT would drop off on the #4
cylinder below about 1400 RPM. We went through the following to get
to the root cause:
* Induction leak?
-- Replaced induction tube gasket at the #4 cylinder. Tightened all
clamps and torqued all bolts. No help.
* Both plugs fouled?
-- Pulled plugs, cleaned, gapped, checked resistance. All good. No
* Mag problem?
-- Mag check at 1700 RPM seemed normal.
* Worn cam lobe?
* No issues with #3 cylinder, which shares the same intake lobe.
* Valve sticking?
-- Borescope showed no signs of issues with the valve movement or
* Idle mixture too lean?
-- Richened idle mixture at AFP servo. Improved idle but not the
* Compression issue?
-- Compression checked was 72/80 (1100 hrs on this cylinder)
* Not enough fuel getting to the cylinder?
-- Blew out the injector line. No help.
-- Checked flow to cylinder with fuel pump on. Bingo. No fuel at
idle and a dribble at full throttle, full mixture.
Swapped out the fuel divider and all was well again. Mine will go
back to AFP for IRAN.
One Way To Do It ...flyboy1963
[Bracket for remote magnetometer...]
2 lengths of J-profile scraps, and a wedge under the longeron to
produce the appropriate 8 degree tilt to match the unit in the
panel. ( yours may vary) This is behind the rearmost bulkhead,
accessible, kinda, thru the tail fairing/elevator/v. stab attach
point. forward is -----> right. Not my install, but must
credit the builder!
Cracked canopy repair ...firemanken
My partner and I purchased a built RV6A 7 years ago
and have enjoyed it with no problems in that time.
Now we have encountered our first big problem! When we were last at
the hanger we found a CRACK in the canopy. We have a slider, the
crack runs behind our heads in center of canopy. The crack runs
approximately 8" on each side of the center metal strip.
Researching this as best we could, we understand this happens quite
frequently in RV's.
We would like to have it repaired, (even if it leaves a scar)
My question , can we have it repaired locally (Ohio) or if that is
not possible , where can we find step by step instructions on how we
can repair it using the proper products.
Have been grounded for 2 weeks now. :-(
Please Check My Work on the Spar Box ...Bob Collins RV-12
Page 09-03. Step 2.
I've taken a magnifying glass to figure 1 and I think it's show the
two interior inspar ribs lining up with most inboard holes. And I
THINK it's showing the HS 1209 spar cap spacers attaching to the the
next row ouboard of those holes?
The reason I ask is step 2, which says " Rivet the HS-1211 spar
caps, HS 1212 Inspar Ribs, and HS-1209 Spar cap spacers together
using rivets call out in Figure 1.
If what I described in the second paragraph is correct, the only two
places where those three things are riveted TOGETHER is the two end
inspar rib locations. Remove any remaining clecoes
So, these questions:
1. Should I rivet the two inboard spacers with the AN426 AD3-4
rivets on the top and bottom?
2. Do I rivet, with the AN426 AD3-4 rivets, the two inboard inboard
ribs to to the HS-1211. Leaving open presumably the 1/8" rivet
holes? (This last part I'm most sure is correct... leave those holes
As you can probably tell, I'm very sensitive to the literal
translation of the language used in these steps and don't want to do
February 8, 2017. Issue
It's Been Fun
...Brian (hydroguy2) and Kris
To build something with your own hands from a vision
is special as any builder knows. We've flown to see the kids,
Oshkosh a few times, Fly-ins and SARL races in Texas, Washington,
Idaho, and all over Montana. Commuted in it while building our
retirement home 1hr flight vs 4.5hr drive away. Never planned on
ever selling it...until life hands you a new plan.
The last 10+years have been a lot of fun, education, thrills and
stress, but mostly fun. That all came to an end on Friday when I
took my last flight in Aurora. It was an emotional day 2 weeks ago,
when I said "Sold" to the offer on the table.
[ed. Brian, I know that I
speak for everyone who reads this website when I say that we all
have both you and your wife Kris in our thoughts and prayers. Please
let us know if there's anything you need help with.
Kris, kick this thing's ass and take names.
Welcome to the RV-9A Club ...Neal Trombley
Pulled the trigger this week. I have joined my
local met some great guys. Two 9s are being built on the field now (
located at page in fort Myers)
I never took a ride in one, is that a mistake? Been
flying a lot sat in drooled over plenty! I'm attending
Eaa workshop this upcoming weekend in Lakeland for sheet metal.
Anyway I hope it's everything I think it is.
Let the journey begin
Safety Alert for Operators ...FAA
Subject: Pilot and Flightcrew Awareness of Class B
Extreme Turbulence - Owens Valley, CA, Today ...pvalovich
Extreme turbulence in the southern part of Owens
Valley yesterday and today.
Had a Cessna 421 heading south to north yesterday afternoon between
Mojave and Inyokern. Tried to go underneath clouds in attempt to
find smoother air. Was rolled upside down out of control. Recovered
and landed at IYK. Inner wings skins severely deformed. Haven't yet
examined spar. One pilot who has some knowledge thinks plane may be
Today to the north of IYK large multi-layered lenticular clouds with
more vertical development than I've ever seen. Surface winds still
Probably best to avoid the entire Sierra Crest.
The thrifty nature of pilots demonstrated once again...by me.
An overgeneralization, but it does have some merit.
Some people I know, myself included, find it physically painful to
spend money on non-airplane things. Like vacuum cleaners.
A few weeks back I mentioned how frustrated I was with my
all-plastic, piece of junk Hoover 'bagless' vacuum cleaner with a
non-replaceable HEPA filter. Turning a screw on this thing results
in cracks in the case. Using it requires a trip out to the
driveway after each use for a complete blowing out from top to
bottom with the air compressor (and hours of sneezing).
Failing to do this results in a product that won't pick up a grain
I've actually found myself scrolling through vintage Kirby listings
in craigslist on my iPad in the evenings while watching the latest
installment of "Ice Road Pawnshop Pregnant Teen Extreme Deadliest
Tiny Car Rebuilders". While mentioning the fact that I would
like to find a Kirby
80's-90's that used disposable bags, airport rockstar and
mechanic extraordinaire Randy 'Monkey' Richmond pointed to the upper
level of his hangar and said, "I have two old Kirby's right there
I was going to restore one day - one with an aftermarket bag kit.
Let's rebuild it for you. I used to work at an old vacuum store
rebuilding these things back in the day."
Hangaring at Monkeytown has its advantages...
So for an hour or so over the last few days I've spent time
dismantling and polishing large cast aluminum parts of a 42yr old
1975 Kirby Classic Omega 1-CB with an aftermarket disposable bag
attachment. I'm currently $0.00 into this and expect to spend
somewhere in the neighborhood of $25 making it look and work like
new (a belt, a new rubber bumper and a sticker set). A six amp motor
spinning an impeller that looks like it came out of a Formula One
engine. Every single part on this thing is adjustable, and all of
the really important stuff is made out of metal - parts of it
stainless. Virtually every single piece on this thing can still be
bought - Randy's childhood friend from Corpus still runs a discount
vacuum store (link) and
we're calling him for parts.
are some pictures that I'm taking during the restoration, and at
right is a picture of what it will sorta look like when done.
If it comes out that good I'm putting it in the corner of the living
room as a piece of art.
Special thanks to Randy for access to his King Kong Gonzo
polishing station. Things to do when your plane isn't down for
maintenance and the shop is empty. This thing was possibly
built in Andrews, TX
(E11). I've stopped there for avgas and didn't know.
If I can find a disposable bag unit Kirby from the 80's/90's that
needs some love, I'll hand this 1975 unit when restored back to
Randy (for his living room enjoyment).
Yours in thrift and quality tools,
PS: If you are bored at work and have the bandwidth and time,
give the 40 page
owner's manual from 1975 a look. Items of note:
- the 'Handi-Butler' - the 'Crystalator'
- the 'Shag King'
- the 'Swedish Massage Unit' ......I'm not making
PSS: I wish I had my Mom and Dad's old
516. Where did that thing end up?
February 7, 2017. Issue
Sometimes an RV Shop Dog Just Has to Fly ...tcard
Also known as "RV Pilot's Perspective of Living the
Some days aren't so great for an RV to be on the taxiway, but it can
be a perfect day for an RV-dog to be the center of attention. The
middle of last year, Skylar dog found her way into our hearts and
home. She was a passenger of mine on a Pilots N Paws flight, but she
was destined to return home with us from the rescue. She is the very
definition of an RV Dog.
Tucking in the headsets and jacks ...Latintan
After flying with cords all over the stick and not
having a good place to place the headsets when not in use, I came up
with this idea with spare sheet metal I had at the hangar. The
assembly is mounted to the back vertical center post behind the
pilot and copilot. It is 3/4" off the face with standoffs in order
to route the headset ends up and into the jacks. I think it's going
to work GREAT on my RV6-A.
Panel Status ...dtw_rv6
Laser cut panel with hard coat anodizing (durable
and won't fade in sunlight). Laser engraved labels.
A pic of my late father's Snap-On set (swivel set up top not in
the original kit). Circa 1968.
February 6, 2017. Issue
Jon Thocker ...of redlineairshows.com
Scott Hersha photo.
Plenum Tug-of-War ...JKBSouth
With the -7 build in Michigan while Dolly and I are
in Florida, a project for the winter was to fabricate a fiberglass
plenum lid, the oil fill door and some HDPE firewall and baffle wire
pass through. I brought engine measurements (32"plus by 18"plus) and
the top Vans cowl with us.
The oil door was fun, really. First try was two layers of 6 oz cloth
cast onto the cowl over clear packing tape and Mother's Brazilian
canauba auto wax. Two layers was too thin both in flexure and
contour with the surrounding cowl surface. The second try at seven
layers was stiff, but too thick. Like 'Goldilocks and the Three
Bears' the third try at four layers was just right but will need
some anti-flex reinforcing.
From the motherhip FB page...
"If anyone looks at the instrument panels in some of our old
demonstrators they would never accuse us of spending a lot of effort trying
to keep up with the Jones’s…………
But with our prototype/demonstrator RV-14A coming up on 5 years old and
Dynon provided an opportunity to upgrade to HDX, we figured it was a great
opportunity to stay a bit closer to the leading edge of technology for once.
We have had the opportunity to get acquainted with the HDX screen while
doing the testing for that upgrade for the RV-12, and have already come to
appreciate the improvements over Skyview that have been added, so we look
forward to more chances to fly with it in our RV-14A."
David Paule RV-3B Status Report
I've been getting the smaller details completed. The
gussets at the forward (middle of the image) ends of the baggage
compartment ribs that are on the far right needed to be riveted to
the seat baggage bulkhead. Here I've got the left one clecoed and am
using a .063 plate to ensure that the right one is fair to the seat
bulkhead while I drilled the flange.
Vlad's Been Active...
Somewhere in NH
Hi there. Excuse me where am I? Is it NJ? Yes
those two airplanes circling overhead are lost too. How is the
fish? Do you have any beer?
What a great day! My rough estimate was 40-50
airplanes landed there from 10 am till we left late afternoon.
Why late? The Chief Rivetbanger was on the way from Maryland and
we wanted to greet him.
February 3, 2017. Issue
Feb 2, '17 is a milestone day
for our family. As of 4:45 PM central standard time, our 16yr old son
Tate is gainfully employed at Freddy's
Frozen Custard & Steakburgers. First job interview he ever had in
his life, and he got the dang job. :-) "I have my own
transportation, straight A's, no after-school commitments and can work
any days you need me." Hired. Orientation this
Saturday, buy a pair of restaurant friendly nonskid tennis shoes at
Walmart and a new pair of blue jeans that will immediately smell like
grease, even after washing.
My first job was flipping hamburgers at Sonic in Waco, TX in 1980.
Drove my late father's Ford F-100 pickup truck there and back on a
hardship permit, listening to Van Halen 2 in the 8-track player while
daydreaming about airplanes. It changed from track 1 to track 2 in
the middle of 'Somebody Get Me A Doctor'. The things we
Congrats to the Taterman! Freddy's is now in our weekly rotation.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
Cold Day, Low Light, Big Bridge ...Pete Howell
Snapped the nearly finished bridge over the St Croix
at sunset tonight. The long shadows magnified the sweeping
structure. Great day to skip out early and fly!
Thoughts on transitioning to an RV-9A (long) ...Dugaru
I thought it might be useful to summarize my recent experience
transitioning to a new (to me) RV-9A -- if only because I really
appreciated finding posts like that when I started looking to buy an
RV. Perhaps those building RV-9As might find this interesting also.
Plus I have learned (and continue to learn) HUGE amounts of useful
things here, so I thought I would try to contribute for once.
My flying background is probably not too different from that of a
lot of RV transitioners. I have about 940 hours, and got the
instrument rating in 2010. I trained in 150s, 152s, and 172s, flew a
great 1974 172M for several years, then bought a 1979 Warrior that I
flew for about 8 years. It was a terrific aircraft and we had many
adventures together. I sold that when I got the opportunity to
partner in a very well equipped Glasair Sportsman, which had been
built by the previous owner in the “two weeks to taxi” program. I
got about 35 hours in that, 18 of which came after we converted the
airplane to tailwheel. I got the tailwheel endorsement, but would
not consider myself an accomplished taildragger operator (yet). The
Sportsman experience convinced me that experimentals are a great way
to fly. Unfortunately my partner’s move to Texas, in the wake of an
unexpected and awesome job offer, forced an amicable airplane
divorce, in which he got custody of the Sportsman.
So I launched another airplane search. The more I looked around, the
more it seemed like the RV was a good fit for me. After working with
Vic Syracuse for a bit, which included him giving me some absolutely
crucial advice about specific airplanes I was looking at (I’ll skip
the gory details), he convinced me (I think correctly) that the RV-9
was the airplane I needed for my mission, which includes a lot of
light IFR travel in the mid-Atlantic. My tailwheel training
convinced me that for traveling purposes, it would be nice to reduce
the threat to my dispatch rate posed by gusty crosswinds, so the
RV-9A seemed like the call. I bought a well-built and
well-maintained RV-9A that I found here. It’s 160hp, slider,
carbureted, with a CS prop.
So, thoughts on the transition:
My first 100 Hours with our RV-10, Full EFII ...John Walker
Now that I’ve got some real solid time(110 hrs) on the plane over
the last 7 months, I thought I would do a write up on the EFII
System, my experiences and how I set up my electrical system because
With the combination of a Barrett engine, the Full EFII and a 3
blade MT prop, I will say, that our plane is smother that any single
engine piston I’ve ever been in. My wife has flown in planes her
whole life with her parents, and she is always amazed at just how
smooth it is. It starts in just a couple blades like a car, and
shuts down with zero flutter.
In flight, I’ve found the system to be very simple and extremely
flexible. Because out engine is pushing 300hp, I have found that
unless I’m at altitude where it’s quite cool, that at optimum power
settings (13.1 Air/Fuel ratio) that I can get my CHT’s up over where
I’d like. I have my yellow band set at 410-425, with 425 being
redline. I like to keep them below 400 obviously. However, running
rich or LOP reduces the temps quite a bit. I’ve been through all the
steps and have dropped my temps a bit, my baffling is as perfect as
you can get. Unfortunately I did not put in a cowl flap, I MAY do
that during condition inspection…☹ After the engine was well broken
in I started experimenting with LOP operation (Let’s not have that
argument here, to each his own). I have not mapped the fuel delivery
to do it automatically yet as I’m still trying to see all the
situations that could occur and really learning the plane. Since I’m
rarely in a hurry, I can use LOP an not mind a little loss in speed.
Welcome Aveo Engineering
...ad lives on the front page.
USA Rep: Damien Esmond
OKC FSDO - I am a satisfied aviator
Two weeks ago I listened to an EAA webinar on
ownership of non-builder owned experimental aircraft. A major
portion (it seemed) of the webinar was devoted to the "operating
limitations" document pointing out that it is part of the
airworthiness document with an originally sign document required to
be in the aircraft at all times. Well, it was news to me because
when I bought the airplane from the builder almost two years ago
that document was not in the aircraft (at least so I thought - I
ultimately found it hidden in a pocket I had not noticed before).
Anyway I contacted my local FSDO office in OKC after the webinar and
discussed the issue with them. Their resident experimental "expert"
called me back two days later. He apologized for not immediately
getting back but said he was extremely busy working several tasks
and also had to work a fatal GA accident that I had heard about on
TV. We discussed my lack of an "originally signed operating
limitations document" and he agreed to meet me this week. He sent me
two FAA forms to fill out for our meeting and offered to review my
logs (but did not require that I bring them in) for correctness
since I told him that I was relatively new to aircraft ownership and
had a few questions about how to do a correct maintenance log entry.
The FSDO (Todd Evans) answered all my questions, issued me a new
special airworthiness certificate, and new operating limits for my
geographical area so that if I need to later open a new phase one
for a modification I could. We had a real good discussion on
aircraft maintenance , proper record keeping, and engine operations
to ensure maximum life.
I have followed an earlier thread about the difficulty one builder
has had getting a Repaireman's Certificate from his local FSDO. I've
also heard horror stories that people have had when they've done
business with their local FSDO office. Therefore, I entered this
meeting with a lot of trebidation and apprehension. I shouldn't have
My experience was absolutely positive! The OKC FSDO is a customer
friendly, service oriented office and I especially want to say
thanks and let others know that there are good FSDOs who are
concerned about promoting safe sky's and good maintenance practices.
RV7A - N523RM
February 2, 2017. Issue
Disaster in the Shop last night ...Caummisar
....and the grandkids are too far away to help!!
Cool Airshow Scenery ...Christopher Murphy
had this video on my computer but had never uploaded
it. Interesting weather and terrain at one of our favorite
venues. Rough edit and no music.
From the mothership...
My solution for a perfect glairshild ...rvtestpilot
Fly to Beautiful COLORADO! ...ppilotmike
A friend of a friend made this short video of what
it's like to fly around the southern part of our beautiful state, in
the wintertime. If Colorado isn't on your list of places to visit in
your airplane, it should be.
[ed. Not RV but really pretty. dr]
As an update, I got with Van's engineering in a fix that they
approve of (the longerons were over 50% gone on the horizontal face
from extra holes. Now I have to decide which little guy gets to
climb back into the tailcone to drill all of these extra holes.
This thread has sure made the rounds. I have had quite a few people
come into the hangar asking to see the plane that "had the bad
Cheap DIY Audio Adapter ...GalinHdz
I have a nice video camera which has an external
audio input jack that I want to connect to the rear seat intercom
jacks and record in flight conversation. But the camera audio system
is 8ohms while the airplane audio panel is 600ohms. If you connect
them together without some kind of impedance matching, recorded
audio gets very distorted and might even damage the airplane audio
panel. Being the cheapskate that I am I decided to put what little
EE knowledge I still have to good use so I designed and built an
inexpensive 8ohm to 600ohm audio adapter. My audio panel is mono
while my camera is stereo so I went with a
1/4" mono plug and a
1/8" stereo plug. It is just a simple resistor voltage divider
and I got all the parts at my local Radio Shack. If your audio panel
is stereo, use a 1/4" stereo plug instead of a mono plug and use two
resistor voltage dividers each one connected to each one of the
stereo (L / R) channels.
February 1, 2017. Issue
AX-O at Reno. Ken Linde photo.
Formation Practice: 1/31/17
at 52F ...1min 37sec vid.
The usual suspects. I drove into the airport
when the gang was about back - was listening to them on the handheld
while driving out. I pulled over to the side of the taxiway
about two minutes before they came overhead, got out the iPad and
pressed record. Five minutes in iMovie later the following
clip was born. I have no future in Hollywood as a
cameraman....and that's a good thing.
Pano of dirt in motion
The dirt on the west side drainage project at our
home field is now relocated. Once at the link, if you have the
monitor and bandwidth, click on the little stacked squares in the
bottom right for bigger versions. The original is 10,785 x
Ground Shot ...Gene Mohr
Milestone: Rob Reece RV-8 Engine Hung...at the Van Cave.
Courtesy Rob and some of the gang from Superior.
Rob is working up a nice website documenting the assembly and
installation. Below are two teasers from yesterday.
Clicking on the pic will take you to much larger versions.
January 31, 2017. Issue
Kind of a milestone today (Tuesday) at my home field.
The last pile of dirt from the drainage repair project should be finally
relocated. You can follow along on the
webcam if you're
bored at work. No water running across the runway after storms -
what a concept <g>!
Some of the locals have a formation practice scheduled for around 0900
CST Tue, I think the briefing starts 0830. If you have a big
monitor and the bandwidth, you can follow the launch and recovery video
on the 'Horizontal' link at Fly52F.org
(shows the north, middle and south webcams side by side).
the comm. I think the lineup includes two RV-8's, an RV-7A and
an RV-6. The forecast says RWY17 (left to right in the feed).
Everything subject to change and no guarantee the cams will work ;^).
Rob Reece's RV-8 engine arrives Tuesday, so maybe I'll have a picture of
Last but not least: Tate has no cavities (dentist Monday afternoon).
Inspired by Sheepdog's Bush-6
My picture isn't nearly as good, nor my plane nearly
as pretty, but I was pretty excited to get my new Matco w60 wheels
and brakes on, along with the Desser oversized 800-6 tires.
Great day project that actually went very smoothly. Need to bleed
brakes tomorrow and verify function but my back and knees tired of
squatting on the ground today.
RV component furniture ...EdH
Okay, so I found the lamp in the Finish Kit.
A good friend of mine just got his unmanned pilot certificate. We
flew to Upstate NY to exercise the privilege. That's what he cut.
His first time composing a video.
First flight in my newly aquired RV-8 ...Rx7thHeaven
Last week I went for my first flight/lesson in my newly acquired
-8. It was my first -8 flight as well as first tailwheel lesson. The
RV journey started for me back in October when I went from
considering an RV to "I have got to get one of these!" when I met
and went for a ride with fellow VAF member Bill (fixnflyguy). He
offered me a quick ride in his -4 and it was instant love! My
extensive 3 month nationwide search was over when I found a flying
-8 at Bill's home base which is about 45 min (by car) from my house.
The plane was just what I was wanting and the fact that it was a
local plane and the entire history was known was a huge plus.
Anyways, on to the first impressions... All I can say is I was in
for a surprise when I strapped into this thing! I essentially had
zero tail wheel time (other than a 45 min aerobatics intro lesson in
my instructors Decathlon) . The plane flies like a dream and I had
to quickly "re-calibrate" my hand from the massive control inputs
required in the Pipers I have been flying since getting my license.
Large control inputs were massively amplified when close to the
ground! Pulling into a stall or scrapping a wing tip seemed to be a
real concern if anything more than fingertip pressure was used at
low speeds a few feet off the ground! I also found myself getting
into some mild "tank-slapper" oscillations pretty quickly if I moved
my attention closer to the nose of the plane after landing! I
definitely learned to keep my eyes as far downrange as possible
until exiting the runway. Suddenly the 10hrs of dual required by my
insurance seems like it may be the bare minimum I would be
comfortable with and would be happy to go for more! Bill was
absolutely fantastic throughout the whole process and was always
happy to answer questions or take a look at the planes I was
considering, And even helped with the rear rudder pedal install
after purchase so I could begin my training. Overall I absolutely
love the plane and cannot wait to get proficient in it and join in
on some fun with some of the great people I have met since beginning
Tip up blues ...goldbar
I have been wrestling with this far too long, wish there were a
tipup near by that I could just go look at from time to time, no
such luck. Several questions, all related to getting the tip up
canopy fit dialed in. This is how the forward top skin F-771
and F-702 skin match, looks right I think.
January 30, 2017. Issue
Random thoughts. A pretty weekend Wx-wise here
in Texas - pretty sure there wasn't a cloud in the northern 2/3rds of
the state on Sunday. No flying, though. Spent Saturday
climbing Mt. Email and refining my Bissell carpet cleaning skills
(stairs). Sunday was spent doing battle with a vacuum cleaner with
'Self-cleaning HEPA Filter' molded into the case that, to me, is
a fine example of false advertising. In addition to being
not even removable. Thank goodness for air compressors
(without it you're
this guy). Makin' it work until it breaks, then on to
something more industrial, and serviceable. ;^)
Tate spent the weekend applying at local businesses around the area.
Freddie's hamburgers is looking promising he said, based on the
Friday my ELT chirped when I powered up the avionics, so I'm going to dig
into that this week sometime hopefully. Maybe go to Freddie's for
Hope you had a nice weekend.
Jake's New Hand Controls ...jeterjim
I would like to introduce my son Jake. In 2000 he
was in a diving accident resulting in a spinal cord injury that left
him paralyzed from the chest down. Jake pushes a manual wheelchair;
however, he is considered a quadriplegic because he has limited hand
function. He was 17 years old, had soloed, and was on his way to
getting his private pilot's license just before his accident.
Ongoing Maintainance ...Dayton Murdock RV-4
Yesterday I took off Carson City heading for Sacramento to see my
As I leveled off at 10,500 feet I did a instrument scan in the fuel
pressure was reading .6 pounds and blinking red at me , after a few
moments it was reading zero .The engine was running smooth for a
little bit then things got rough I turned on the boost pump and
headed back to Carson. What a shame the air was smooth the snowfall
on the Sierras was absolutely beautiful I could've continued on my
boost pump but I thought better of that plan. I just thought I would
share the experience. My new pump will be here on Tuesday and all
will be better again.
Ground Portrait ...flyboykelly
The adventure begins! ...Ray Dosh (Marion, IN)
I inspected Lloyd Chaffin's QB -14 kit, serial 140212, yesterday
and am now making arrangements for Tony Partain, who I spoke with
earlier this week, to deliver the kit to me from the Lone Star
State. Lloyd and his brother-in-law built the vertical stab (and did
a very good job, from what I can see!) while getting out of the way
of a fiberglassing expert working on the BIL's RV-7. Other than
that, the kit is pretty much untouched. I love the way Lloyd has
organized and labeled all of the small parts. I only wish that I
could do the build in his BEAUTIFUL shop!
Lloyd, now you can place the G3X order for your -8A. Enjoy!
I can only hope and pray that the project goes as smooth as this
deal has. Even worked out that a company flight got me to the
Metroplex for a couple of days so Lloyd and I could seal the deal.
Even worked out for one of our crews to skip the airlines for a trip
home from Bombardier recurrent training on one of our Lear 45's.
9th annual ice cream social, Inyokern, CA: 11th March ...mark
Cowl to Plenum-redu-with pix
My 9A has the standard Vans Cowling and a plenum. There is a
small air gap all the way around, between the two. How do others
mate the two together so they can be detached easily? thanks Larry
Love of Hardware ...Al Girard
January 27, 2017. Issue
I'll send you into the weekend with a picture of the
currently broken (but usually working) pump at Gainesville, TX (KGLE).
They'll fuel you w/the truck at the pump price while it's down.
The cover was off for repairs and I thought the internals were so
interesting it warranted a picture. Click on the pic for a 2,448 x
3,264 pixel monster that shows the rust, patina and 'years of enjoyment'
in their full beauty. How many tens of thousands of aviators have
used this pump?
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
Desert Southwest Trip ...crabandy
Get the Lead out ...vic syracuse
This week while performing a pre buy inspection on a gorgeous
RV-9A I happened upon a big block of lead bolted to the tail area
underneath the vertical fin! This RV-9A had a 180 HP Lycoming with a
fixed pitch prop, of which I have seen and flown a few of. Nothing
out of the ordinary stood out to me in this airplane that should
indicate a need for ballast in the tail.
In looking at the W&B paperwork it became clear to me that they had
added the weight to get the aircraft CG inside the envelope while it
was on the scales. I'm sure most of you know this, but the only time
the aircraft is required to be within the recommended CG envelope is
while it is flying, not while it is empty.
Eagle's Nest Projects - Student Achievement - Meeting the Challenge
Building a 7A v. 12 ...Bob Collins
People had opined that they wanted to hear my opinions (whaaat?)
once I started the RV-12 and how it compares to the RV-7 project. I
suspect very much my initial thoughts would mirror those of RV-6
owners v the 7 and 9 "crowd" when the prepunched kits came out.
Anyway, a few main thoughts.
1. I'm not building (at least not yet), I'm assembling. Because I'm
building as an E-LSA, I have to do things exactly the way I'm told.
These kits are incredible. There's (at least so far) nothing much to
do but take the piece and match the piece to another piece that has
been finely punched and pre-punched and pre-formed. The extent of
"getting your hands dirty" is snipping off a part, kind of like when
you had those plastic models and had to snip them off from all the
other parts. Fortunately, no airplane glue needed.
2. I miss the ISO drawings.
The step-by-step instructions are completely dummy proof although
once you build via the old method, it's REALLY hard to get used to
the RV-12 instructions. It's like assembling something you just
picked up from Ikea. I find myself longing to see how every part
relates to every other part in the big scheme of things. But with
the 12 plans, you just have to trust that eventually everything will
fit together, so just shut up and do what the step tells you to do.
New Years Baja Trip! ...kgood
Class Act: All Parties
Scary situation found during condition inspection ...Jesse
January 26, 2017. Issue
A .3hr flight around
Lake Lewisville 0900 Wednesday morning - listed as 'Alumitherapy'
in the calendar. On the iPad before and after. Dallas
skyline off in the distance, 25.16 statute miles away if you trust the
ruler on Googlemaps. We're dipping back down into the 30's for the
next few days, so a few of us wanted to enjoy one more flight without
bundling up so much.
Our daughter Audrey is somewhere in this picture wearing a lab coat and
safety goggles (some of those little bumps on the horizon to the left of
downtown are SMU). That made me smile.
10" G3X Touch in an RV-3B ...KatieB RV-3B
So after years of poking around with pipe dreams, drawings,
lists, budgets, and mission evaluations, I’ve begun installing the
brains of my -3. It was a long and arduous road, but I’ve decided to
go with Big G. Yeah, Garmin. “But you’re the GRT chick! What
happened?” Well… it’s a long story.
The bones of my plane as it sat in the junk yard came with a Dynon
D180. I sold that to a fellow VAF'er with another RV-3 and paid off
my car loan. Sure, I could’ve kept it all as Tony had it, but I had
way too many hours flying behind GRT Sport systems, which blew the
D180 away in features. SO that was a no-brainer, even though it
would add many months and a few grand to the budget requirements.
(Every decision with this plane has added many months, so why not!)
[ed. Outstanding thread, Katie!!!
Thank you for doing this. v/r,dr]
PnP Mission Tally Badges ...Dan Landry
I thought it might be a good idea to promote PnP with attaching a
mission tally badge to the airplane. It would promote discussion as
well as identify pilots in the program and their commitment.
Milestone: David Paule Thread
300 replies (most by David). 94,000 views. David is
documenting some of the construction of his RV-3B with occasional
Accusump Failure: Immediate Total Oil Loss ...RV7DES
I have just had my plane lose all its oil just before shutdown
when the accusump blew its top. Has anyone had this issue? I lost
almost all the oil in a few seconds. If it happened during flight I
would be going down.
So far Canton has said maybe I shouldn't fit a valve direct to the
accusump, and maybe the vibrations caused the top to seperate.
However I am not impressed by the thickness of the unit around the
tread, and believe it was an issue waiting to happen, and would not
be happy fitting one again until I know why. I'd like to share this
with as many others that have these units fitted. Until this failure
I loved the system, and have done lots of aeros.
January 25, 2017. Issue
I thought you might like
this picture I took of the fuel truck up at Gainesville the other day (KGLE)
- items of interest marked below. Clicking on the image will bring
up a 3264 x 2448 pixel version for your patina enjoyment.
How many thousands of planes has this fueled?
Primary training emphasizes checklists. Built this handy little
book from the POH that was someone else's hard work. Includes
pre-flight, run up, normal maneuvers and emergencies. Laminated and
bound thanks to the wife's craft supply.
Overhaul of O-320-D3G Begins ...KazooRV-9A
This past weekend we started into an exciting phase for the
build, the overhaul of the O-320-D3G engine! The core engine had
come along with the entire project purchase, and I've been patiently
waiting to do the teardown to see what we have.
It was a rare January thaw up here in SW Michigan, the thermometer
topped 60 degrees last Saturday and we even opened the shop doors
for a bit to let some of the sunshine and outside environment in.
You can get cabin fever up here this time of year and this was a day
to ward that off. RV building it turns out, is a great cure for
Spruce Creek Bonfire Flyby ...Ted Chang video
This year 49 airplanes participated the flyby. It was opened by a
DC3 leading four RVs. The 2nd flight was a TBM Avenger leading two
Bonanzas. A P51 Mustang closed the flyby. In all, 20 RVs and 2
Systems ...David Paul RV-3B
I've been thinking about where things are going to go, and this
is my current iteration. All this is tentative, of course; in most
cases I don't even have the stuff yet. Please remember that this is
for an RV-3, and it has a smaller cockpit than the other RVs.
Here's the instrument panel equipment:
MGL V6 Com
LH Pmag switch (I'm reviewing the various wiring approaches from VAF)
RH Pmag switch
LH Pmag power switch
RH Pmag power switch
Autopilot engage/disengage button
USB port (or on side panel?)
The engine controls will be in the left side panel, and the right
side panel will have some miscellaneous stuff. There won't be any
switches on the stick:
Wingtip light switch
Landing light switch
Autopilot servo power switch (both servos on 1 switch)
12 V outlet
Fuel pump switch
USB Port (or on panel?)
Push to talk button (throttle)
January 24, 2017. Issue
NOAA’s GOES-16 satellite sends first images of Earth
Higher-resolution details will lead to more
Finally starting ...welcome Frank Cordrey RV-7
I've have been looking and reading for some time now. I really
got serious about RV's this past summer and went beyond just walking
past looking. I was still trying to define my mission and was
between the 7 and the 9.
I decided to do the EAA Sport Air sheet metal class that was held in
Manassas Va. this past September just to see what it was all about.
I really enjoyed it! I then found someone to give me a demo 9A
flight in late fall. Very nice airplane but my desire to do light
acro just rules it out. So fast forward through the holidays and
other life distractions and I find myself in touch with another very
generous forum member beginning of this month. We arrange to meet
and he gives me a demo 7 flight on 1/15 ....that did it!
I've wanted to fly a 7 for at least 3 years now and that flight
confirmed that is what I want.
I came home and talked it over with my WONDERFUL wife who thinks I
am crazy but is supportive! So with out waiting any longer I placed
I just got through inventorying the empennage tonight and organizing
my rivet/small parts bin . I ordered tools before faxing in my order
to Vans and still don't have all the tools in yet! Oh well....a lot
of information to look over.
No tools to work with and lots to read over. More to come...And lots
of questions I'm sure.
Status Report ...Gregg
I got the fuselage far enough along, that we all got a chance to
sit in it.
Rudder skin edge break mistake ...tims88
Despite practicing on some scrap metal I still made a mistake
while putting the edge break on the rudder skins. I was using the
vice grip edge forming tool and while I was pulling it along the
edge the skin moved outside of the flange on the roller and I bent
the skin way too far. And to make it even worse I did the same thing
again a little farther along the edge. I did my best using my hand
seamer to straighten the edge out and clean it up but there was only
so much I could do.
Since the trailing edge is so important on control surfaces I'm
wondering if this will be a bigger problem than a cosmetic issue and
if anyone has any suggestions on how to smooth the skin out a little
Here is a picture from right after I made the first mistake.
Things you would have done differently ...RV-10
Q: Working through all the fiberglass fun
of the finish kit on my SB -10. For the past 3 years (just looked at
my sig block; exactly 3 years today)
I've followed some of the more thorough build logs (at least the
ones I've found) - Tim O, Ed K, Bill T, Mike J, Justin T, B&B U. Now
that the aforementioned have been flying for a good amount of time,
I'm wondering what you all (and any other -10 builders) would do
differently if you could go back?
I'm at the point - airframe still mostly opened up, before systems
install - where most changes/adjustments wouldn't be too terribly
I appreciate the insight.
A: I wish I had installed access panels
in the tunnel for the pump/filter.
A: And access panels for airing
up the tires without having to remove the wheel pant.
A: I am glad
I installed rudder trim.
A: Although I installed seat heaters, I
very rarely use them, and the wiring is a pain------would not repeat
if building another 10.
Glad that step is over ...mciaglia RV-10
Ever since purchasing the empanage kit and reading about the
infamous trim tabs, I have been dreading the tip bends. Well, this
weekend I tackled them and can't believe they came out. A lot of
thanks to all the builders and forum posts about this in the past,
your insight and experience paved the way for a successful weekend.
One big pieec of advice I can impart is to make sure the wedge block
does not move. Creating the wood wedges and then using the yardstick
was a huge help.
January 23, 2017. Issue
I got in a short .6 on the 20th (gas run) and did a software
upgrade on the screens. Saturday was fixing stuff on the
daughter's car and Sunday was spent driving the Bissell around the
living room (winds gusting 34kts). All in all, no complaints.
Got stuff done. Hope your weekend was nice.
PIREP: Eagles Nest Granbury, TX ...Pat Stewert
Loose carb bottom ...jacksel
I have a MA-4-5 carb on my RV-6. I recently noticed the bolts
connecting the 2 halves of the unit have become loose. The
anti-rotation washers are still in place but somehow all the bolts
are a little loose. It's possible to jiggle the whole bottom half of
the carb. Do anyone sell a kit for repairing this sort of problem?
Definitely not RV related (but cool) ...Turbo flies the P-51
Accident Case Study: Time
Lapse – misunderstanding in-cockpit weather displays can lead to
Status Report ...Raymo
Haven't yet flown due to weather here in GA/SC. Had a great
experience with Lewis Blackwell (DAR) out of Charleston, SC for the
inspection and paperwork.
Planning to paint after phase I, wheel pants and a few minor tweaks.
Double Rainbow Captured at 52F ...
(click for 3,844 pixel-wide version).
Yes, there are now (3) webcams at
And from 2010...Youtube viral video:
Full On Double
Rainbow All the Way ...what does this mean?!? <grin>
(spit milk out on my keyboard again...)
Initial Draft: RV-type Performance Briefing
January 20, 2017. Issue
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend!
Good RV flying Wx returns to TX. The
rains have passed...
RV Spotting While Goofing Off at Work
My home field now has (2) webcams,
The windsock is in the north camera's field of view. If you
want to watch the occasional RV takeoff and land while stuck in the
office, and your company firewall allows it, the links are on the
P.O.A. website at www.Fly52F.org.
There's always your smartphone. I had one monitor set to north
and the other south a little after 5pm Thursday afternoon.
Randy Richmond in the yellow RV-8 (iPhone pics of monitor below)
warmed up a little after work. After he took off I followed
the dot well into the crosswind leg.
Finally! First flight of 2017! ...colojo
Due to work, travel and weather I've been grounded since early
November. Absolutely miserable and unacceptable. Fortunately, the
stars aligned today... I didn't need to go to work and the weather
in Colorado is absolutely perfect. So I launched in my 8 at about
noon to do some snowy sightseeing around Denver.
Mothership Hobbs Meter
As of January 19, 2017 9,586 RV aircraft have been completed and
January 19, 2017. Issue
Fiddling w/Apple pencil. dr
RV-3 Class Photo ...Tcraft128
This is N12JV after a year long restoration. O290D2 and a smoke
system! Tons of fun. Here it is on a 1900ft one way farm strip.
2016 Edition of Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge (FAA)
...download to your phone/tablet.
Is my front/middle baffle seal pointing the wrong way
From reviewing this thread it would appear my front/middle baffle
seal is pointing the wrong way. It's edge is tucked under(behind)
the wrap around portion of the top cowl. I thought maybe the
pressure inside would be higher than the pressure behind the gear
and keep the seal tight?
Or, does this seal need to be angled backwards for better seal? If
so, does the seal where it curves backward need to be redone?
PS This RV-9A is new to me and runs hot.
Hope the picture compensates for my poor description.
Operation Donut ...Ben Meyer
Today was pretty much the worst day I've had in a while.
Yesterday, on the other hand, was pretty much one of the best. So,
let's talk about that one. I can't think of a better way to use our
freedoms than to go get some donuts and BBQ
Mission, Leg 1: Donuts
Route: FFC-AHN-Zombie Donuts
Maggie (and Teddy) and I climbed aboard N6PU at about 9:30, headed
January 18, 2017. Issue
PnP mission Ottawa - Sept-Iles and back ...Lycosaurus
What to do on a cold -28C morning.... why not fly two RV7 and one
RV9 to Sept-Iles QC from Ottawa ON, a 500 nm leg and bring back some
dogs for PnPC. We had 7 pups and two adults of which
they thought one might be pregnant. Just beautiful dogs melting your
heart away. Tried to sneak one in my coat, but got caught every
Left at 7 AM and returned back to Ottawa at around 7 PM. Twelve hour
trip, with about 8 hours of air time, over 1000 nm round trip.
PnP Mission - Pickup @ Marathon-FL Keys ...Dan Landry
I had an opportunity to do my 2nd PnP mission. Pick up 3
chihuahuas in Marathon(KMTH) and deliver them to Airport
Manatee(48X), just south of Tampa. Temperatures in Marathon a
balmy 80 degrees & a beautiful day for a mission to help out these 3
The first flight ...daviid
Today I was showing some of my employees the airplane I am
building in the warehouse. One of them felt it was quite small so we
decided to sit inside the canopy to give it a feel. Right then my
sister (who is my admin assistant) walked in the warehouse to ask me
a question. She stopped in the door, turned around, turned back and
grabbed her phone and snapped this.
Deerspotting & Alumitherapy
.3hrs off the surface Tue a.m. - first flight in five days.
47°F. (8) deer spotted spread out
over (3) locations - spotted (3) of them walking on a trail that
they are often on. 20+ egrets and some ducks. Got a wave
from 'Mema on the porch' over by Propwash. Estimated $10.70 in
avgas burned. Mental gyro recalibrated. Back home on the
computer working by 11am.
here - for 1,919
x 931 pixel version click below.
fmi: All about
getting your APRS tracker (bottom of page at link)
Ep. 8: Kangaroo Island in 24 hours ...haydnc RV-7 (Australia)
rockwoodrv9 Snowbound ...Meridian, ID
This is what you find at KEUL when you go to get in your hangar.
To be fair - the snow falls off the roof to form the piles. Then it
re-freezes and I either wait for spring or get a backhoe to dig it
away. There is a NOTAM closing the runway because of snow and
ice. I got an email from the airport manager today with his cell
phone number that a pilot could call and get permission to take off
Maybe Im a wuss, but I am having difficulty getting too excited to
work on the plane when the inside of my hangar has ice on the floor!
Pilot v8.6 Out
January 17, 2017. Issue
CAVU Pacific NW ...Carl N. rubs it in <grin>
"...Anyway, the last week or so was pretty nice up here, a little
chilly, but a nice break from our normal winter WX..."
Weekend Flyer App Update
...now with winds aloft. (VAF advertiser)
Let the Roomba Do It ...David Paule
I was working on one of the bulkheads and decided it was time for
a good shop floor clean-up. I let the Roomba do the job.
What a difference!
And I vacuum regularly, too. This was additional.
(If you are making work benches, make 'em high enough for the little
guy to pass underneath).
Stock photo off web...
Status Report ...KazooRV-9A
Completed a good portion of the interior painting this past
weekend. Parts were primed, sealed and color coated, came out great.
Had to use low temp reducer, but painter Greg does this every day.
Now we can continue more of the fuselage assy!
Builder Used Wrong Screw Size - Now What? ...Saville
Now that I've acquired some countersinking skills I can get to
the REAL problem:
I'm replacing the battery tray in my -8 to accommodate an Odyssey
925 battery. The footprint of the Odyssey battery is not the same as
the Gill that was there - it's narrower side to side. So I bought a
new battery tray from Van's and riveted in new angle for the new
footprint. So far so good.
The tray is fastened to two flanges aft of the baggage compartment 3
holes on each flange (numbered 1-6 in this picture):
Conduit Routing ...Bill Boyd
"...under the rear seats and baggage floor has been "Starkey'd"
and looks like it will serve the purpose well."
January 16, 2017. Issue
This weekend North Texas
was misty, overcast and very Pacific Northwest like in the winter (screen
grab from the N. 52F WebCam Sunday morning). So I spent the
weekend continuing to trying to catch up with accounting and email.
Fat chance ;^). I'll get there eventually!
It slipped my mind to remind you in the Friday edition that Saturday
night my Internet provider would be doing updates on some hardware and
there could be some time between Saturday night and Sunday morning where
you would not be able to access the site. My apologies if you
tried to get on around 10 PM Saturday night and couldn't.
Hope you have a nice week, and that you got the day off.
ZU-IIS First RV14A to fly in Africa ...Jan Hanekom
Somehow I became involved doing the inspections on this project.
My friend Larry Beamish did the maiden flight and I have done some
of the other test flights. Below is the RV in front of my
Article. "On Wings of Waste: RV-9A fuelled partially by
plastic waste completes trailblazing flight"
British-born pilot and environmentalist Jeremy Rowsell has made
history this week by flying a light aircraft across Australia using
a conventional fuel blended with fuel derived from plastic waste.
First Engine Run ...j-red text and video
This post is almost a duplicate of the one in my builders log
forum, but I thought I'd post it here given the many who responded
to the engine build video who might be curious but who might not
lurk there often.
Alternative to Alton Bay Found ...Vlad
Year 2017. A very unique opportunity has opened on Raquette Lake
in Upstate NY it won't last long. For several years I was observing
the ice condition there and I wasn't able to land. Ski planes and
bush wheelers go there on regular basis. There was a lot of snow in
the beginning but then a couple of warm days came and the snow
melted. Then the deep freeze made it solid. Couple phone calls and
couple emails answered and I am airborne.
Found oil on the floor, grounded ...Steve Melton
I had been weeping some oil at the front end and had contacted
Superior with pictures but it was inconclusive until today. I walked
into the hangar and found oil on the floor and more on the cowl. I
Missing Rivets ...DonFromTX
Looking back from the baggage bulkhead into the tailcone for a
final check before covering up that hole - look what I spotted. I
dread getting my old body folded up and back in there to do a couple
of rivets. How did I ever miss them? (the photo is sideways, that is
the center bottom of the tailcone.)
January 13, 2017. Issue
Wishing you and yours a
happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
Magic of Flight ...Jeremy video
I took my nephew for his first flight about a year ago. My
brother put together this video. Enjoy!
Mo's Ottawa River Fly-In Cancelled (for this year) ...Mark
This just arrived in my in-box. I'm very disappointed to hear
this news as Mo's has traditionally been a fantastic opportunity for
brave aviation souls to gather and share terrific camaraderie, not
to mention some darned good chili, around the warmth of the fire. It
is my sincere hope this is merely a one-time cancellation - my best
wishes go out to Mo for a speedy return to full health.
Mo's 28th Fly-in cancelled
By Patrick Gilligan, COPA
Maurice Prud'Homme has been organizing his ice fly-in on the Ottawa
River since 1989, at that time my daughter was 5 years old and I was
rebuilding turbine engines at Rolls Royce Canada.
Mo has never missed a beat every year doing his annual runs for
sponsors, picking up banners, inviting celebrities to attend,
printing and distributing his posters, scheduling volunteers and
snow plowing, also cooking and serving enormous batches of his
famous Chilli to hundreds of fly-in pilots (Maurice was master Chef
at the Parliamentary dining room). Unfortunately his famous fly-in
is cancelled this year because he will be undergoing heart
surgery and will be required to rest for a month or so.
Our thoughts are wishing Maurice "Mo" a speedy recovery, COPA
My new Wingman here in SC! ...Jim Lechleiter
Meet my new wingman here in Charleston:
From me trying to fly up alongside my friends with slow Mooney’s,
Bonanza’s, Swift’s and other quote “fast” aircraft down here in
Chuck Town, I’ve finally found a single engine that can keep up with
me in formation flight other than my good RV buddies; it is a bit
noisy though unless I’m in the Lead!
Also, Slot really sucks big time too, plus I have to un-soot my tail
after every flight as well which is starting to become a pain
besides my noticeable hearing loss.
Enjoy and Blue Skies to all my flying buddies in 2017!
787 Design Engineering
Boeing South Carolina
T-Hangar NW Regional 52F For Rent ...Sid Mayeux
Please PM me or email SidMayeux -at- JEEMAIL-dot-com.
January 12, 2017. Issue
RV-10 Panel Design ...Justin in OKC
I started my panel design on a plan piece of paper with a pencil.
After awhile I moved to MS Paint where I would cut and paste things
together in a Frankenstein manner trying to get something that made
sense. Yesterday I decided to step it up to Visio and include it in
my Electrical plans book.
This allowed me to show a bit more detail and move things around
without trying to cut and paste a JPEG. I'm at a point now I thought
I would share it out and solicit any feedback. Visio allows me to
show quite a bit of detail that I wasn't able to do in paint. Should
note this isn't to scale per se.
Mag timing - alignment ...Drippy
So I went to time my right mag and can't get it to the proper
spot. As I try to rotate the mag to the left CCW as part of the
timing process the mag hits the attachment foot. I chamfered the
foot but still need to go a bit further.
Various iPhone Mount Ideas
January 11, 2017. Issue
From the factory... FB page
Static Electricity - Pro Tip
Do not vacuum up micro/epoxy dust with your plastic bodied
shopvac while standing on a vinyl floor wearing tennis shoes.
Particularly during a period of low humidity.
Unless you need a jolt or three to correct your Atrial Fibrillation,
bring Frankenstein's monster to life, or something like that...
Periodic Status Report ...David Paul RV-3B
A Few Cars/Restaurants Added
to the Courtesy Cars & Food List
Status Report ...ZazooRV-9A
We fabricated an engine stand for the O-320 we're about to start
overhauling. And the Fuse is in the paint booth for some preliminary
January 10, 2017. Issue
San Angelo...and Houston Unexpectedly ...tcard Pilots 'n Paws
The last pilot for the day asked that we get started as early as
possible, and since I don't fly at night, it was a 15 minute before
sunrise departure. I picked up husky Mesquite in San Angelo (KSJT)
at 8:30, and headed for Taylor (T74). As I arrived in Taylor, I
thought something was amiss. I hadn't heard the other pilot on
common traffic, nor did I see her sitting on the ramp. Sure enough,
when I got to my phone there was a message that she couldn't get her
I fueled up, and headed for the terminal building where it was out
of the wind and at least above freezing. I touched base with the
coordinator and pilot of the 3rd leg. He and I agreed to each go a
bit further, basically splitting the second leg.
I offered to return my co-pilot to his car, but he was in for the
entire adventure, so off we went. I had a huge head start since I
had already finished my original leg and the other pilot was coming
in from New Orleans, so my co-pilot and I took our time and did some
meandering on our way in to Houston.
All cozy in the back of the 9A. He wasn't so sure he wanted to
APRS tracks... (Jan 8th entries)
Spanky and Tims Double Missing Man ...Smokey Ray
Today in Texas was Spanky and Tims memorial at 1st UMC near
Plano. After a very emotional and inspiring celebration of life, 4
T-6"s performed a double MM. Burial at USAFA Thursday.
Garmin G3X Touch v5.1 Update
IFR Current ...me
1/9 I went out to Bridgeport (KXBP) for gas ($3.39), and while
there I shot the VOR approach five times. Three times when I
arrived (tan lines), then landed to fill the plane's tanks and empty
mine, then two more times after take off before departing to Decatur
(KLUD) for their VOR approach on the way back to 52F. That was
one impressive run on sentence...
Bump city and tired. Winds in N. Texas Monday were 180*
gusting to 25 (runway heading) so it actually ended up being sort of
a nice, easy landing. The winds at 2,000' were 42kts from
200*...the flight path indicator was nearly off the screen on the
inbound course (fun math).
I owe Gary P. a steak dinner, and maybe a bottle of whiskey also.
Lotta bumps. Logged 1.6hrs.....that's a lot for me.
(click for tracks)
January 9, 2017. Issue
The garage door
opener gear finally gave up on my side this past weekend - worn
enough to start skipping. At least it wasn't the morning when it
was 13*F....waited until Sunday when it was little warmer.
Replaced the gear on the wife's side about six months ago. I'm
glad I ordered (2) when I got her replacement. The shipping was
more than the gear - might as well order two.
Hoping to fly some practice VOR/ILS approaches this week in VFR for
currency. The Jepp DB is expired in the 430W (Yoda voice) "and
the thrift force is strong with this one right now it is, so /A you will
do." There are (7) VOR and/or ILS approaches in the local area,
cheaper gas than my home field (Sherman 55¢/gal cheaper and
Bridgeport 36¢). A mission: Gas and approaches!
Springfield & Mothers Brewing Companies ...crabandy trip report
I finally convinced the wife to take another day trip in the
airplane, she's tolerated several flights in the RV but hasn't ever
been exactly comfortable with it. I'm hoping more flight time and
other destination incentives will build her tolerance enough to
A tad warmer today than it's been, 18*F-blue skies and mostly smooth
skies for our late morning departure. My wife is definitely not
tolerant of cold, ski bibs and a Columbia parka help....
Do we have another build in us at 59 ...people around 59 chime
Greetings everyone, it's been years since I posted but now I have
the bug again. Building my –6 20 years ago kicked my butt, I
remember the long nights for years, tennis elbow, aches and pains in
my shoulders etc. in the end it was all worth it and I loved that
airplane. Now at 59 I'm feeling very well but not sure I have
what it takes to spend another three or four years in the workshop
or whether or not my elbows and wrists can take it. My days of
getting a second wind at 10 PM and staying in the shop till two in
the morning are over…
Are there many other builders my page with
the same concerns?
It Begins (again) ...Bob Collins
2001 RV-7A start ........ 2017 RV-12 start
Winter Soldiers ...Vlad installment
Sport Island Pub is couple yards away from airplane parking.
Year 10 Performance Numbers ...Pete Howell
In the process of finishing the 10 yr annual on 9er-Pop-Hotel and
had a nice cold day to do some performance runs. The old girl still
scoots pretty well!
Same config since day one: ECI O-320, carb, Pmags, Hartzell. I am
running 92 Mogas, LOP. 1750hrs. She has some scuffs and scratches
now, but I am still thrilled!
Ep. 7 of the Australian Adventure ...haydnc
All pics of the panel upgrade ...Tony T
Descriptions on nearly all of them...
Another hard to reach rivet (rudder) ...Reflex -14
I must have done something wrong or missed an instruction. Last
night I dry fitted (haven't riveted the skins together yet) my
rudder skins. I wanted to see how everything fit before I put
adhesive on the trailing edge.
I be smokin :^) ...Brantel
I received most of one of Marvin's kits (Smoke System Helper) for
Christmas and promptly ordered the rest of the parts that Santa did
not bring me. Marvin was a joy to work with and sent my remaining
parts right away.
on RV-6 'Bigfoot' ...Jan Sport Aviation (Pg 72)
January 6, 2017. Issue
Wishing you and yours a
happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
Milestone: Flipped the Canoe! ...Z-EDD (Harare, Zimbabwe)
Well, today was the biggest and most satisfying day in the
project since unpacking the kit. I started riveting the "canoe"
together around 8 weeks ago. In that time I have managed only 4
sessions, but 2 of those were marathons. It has been frustrating at
times, but in the end it is well worth waiting for a highly
competent riveting partner. Most of these rivets were shot by my
buddy Kev whilst here on layover from his airline job. Kev worked on
the hangar floor for a few years before becoming a pilot, so he
knows his stuff. If we had to drill out one of his rivets it was
probably my fault. My father in law Alistair helped with the final
session and today we finally "flipped the canoe". What a moment!
One Less On My Bucket List ...DonFromTX RV-12
Well for those that have grown used to me in the 6 years on this
board, a milestone was passed today with the official change of my
pile of parts into an AIRCRAFT! Only thing left in the bucket is
"Test Pilot", coming soon! It better come soon, I turn 80 years old
HS ON ...Gil Brice RV-7 McKinney, TX
Last night I got my horizontal stabilizer drilled and attached to
the fuselage. This is definitely one of those measure twice / cut
once operations. My HS tips are within 1/16" measured to the same
spot of the firewall. That took a lot of time and interrupting my
spouse from catching up on Top Chef.
A Few Restaurants Added
to the Courtesy Cars & Food List
Bishop, CA. Miller, MO. Hastings, NE. Urbana,
OH. Honesdale, PA. etc...
EFIS Reliability Survey - Tell me your gripes ...KatieB
Hey Y'all... As part of an application to grad school, I'm
looking for an overall opinion from 100 RV owners about the
reliability of their EFIS systems.
If you own or fly an RV regularly that has an EFIS system installed
as a Primary Flight Display, I'd really appreciate your input. I'll
publish the results in a week or so. Actually, if you own any
Experimental aircraft with an EFIS, that will do just fine. It
doesn't have to be an RV. You can tell me the type in the comments
box at the end of the survey.
January 5, 2017. Issue
Back in the Saddle
for my history
RV APRS tracking
It's been over a month since I took the RV-6 up (condition
inspection, Christmas, ELT that failed the shake test, etc).
Tue I finally got her all buttoned back up, so Wed 0800 I headed out
to 52F for a 31*F flight to see how things looked (29*F in the air).
Colder Wx rolling in later Wed, and we don't do cold very well here
in Dallas, so I opted to go out and fly before it went to the low
20's. Drove around the area in heading mode watching the
engine gauges and traffic screen. The oil didn't get as hot as
I would have liked in flight, the mains need a little air (hard to
push in the hangar - it was warmer when we put on the new tubes),
and I tightened the nut on the tailwheel fork too much. Little
nits that I can address.
Felt swell to RVate again in the
phenomenally nimble RV-6. I felt a little rusty, but
checklists and a minute or two shook that off. Rolling onto
final in that cold, thick, smooth air, on donut and trimmed with the
field to myself...a little smile formed. Good to be back...
New builder ...Bob Collins
He obviously ran out of fuel because the President's speech ran
Do you remember back in June of 2016 when one of the Thunderbirds
crashed after an overflight at the Air Force Academy graduation
ceremony? Speculation on the Internet was that he ran out of fuel
because POTUS was running late and the T-birds were kept in a hold.
Here are some Google links if you don't believe me.
Well it turns out he didn't run out of fuel. It was a
hardware failure. In actuality, they had to offload 900 pounds
of fuel from the aircraft before they could put it on the trailer.
Another data point in my belief that speculation is almost always
Here is a link to the 41 page United States Air Force Aircraft
Accident Investigation Board report. It'll take you all
morning to read, and I promise you'll learn stuff.
Yours in safety,
And here is a link to over 600 probable cause documents
published by the NTSB over the last 30 years in regards to RV
aircraft. Talk all you want about these reports...PLEASE!
There is a
dedicated section in the forums for it.
RV-10 #41741 Colorado ...tims88
On January 1st I started work on the empennage kit for my RV-10!
After nearly a year and a half of research, planning, preparing, and
dreaming it's an incredible feeling for my wife and I to finally be
able to say that "we are building an airplane" instead of "we are
going to build an airplane".
A huge thanks to Mike (ppilotmike) who showed us how to build our
first practice kit, and Justin (J Twilbeck) and Myles (met through
EAA chapter 43) who took us for rides in their RV-10's.
Amazing Ubiquitous Diaphragm Fuel Pump ...15min vid.
Have you ever wondered how an aircraft fuel pump works? This
short video by Aero Accessories, the manufacturers of Tempest brand
diaphragm fuel pumps, breaks it down in easy to understand terms.
January/February Issue Now Online ...36 pages.
January 4, 2017. Issue
20 Years Ago This Week ...work started on RV-6 N617AR <g>
Page (1) of my builder log -
click to enlarge. The 'small empennage box' was full of
wood - tail feather jigs. I have a video somewhere of me
opening the box, thinking there would be little aluminum pieces.
I was green enough to log it as .25hr instead of .2 or .3. And
I changed the column headings to 'time in' and 'time out' starting
on the 2nd entry.
Upon reflection, I think this sums up the hobby
nicely. It's rarely going to be what you think, and you might
have to change the plan often.
And, it will be worth it...
Flying Year 2016 Finished With 752 hours ...Vlad
2016 was a great year of flying. Probably the best I've ever had
since I started flying my RV9A five years ago. 752 hobbs hours
logged in 2016 with total over 3K on engine/airframe. Many
interesting places visited.
2016 In Review ...Jay Pratt
Logged 211.2. Hours in all planes. Mine and customers. Home
base is Hicks Airfield, T67. Fort Worth, Texas
Super Cub 'Shooter' to Big Bend Area of Texas, 19.2 hours of pure
eye candy! Flying canyons, camping, and visiting local folks.
C180J 'Paul Revere' to Florida and Key West. Fun, fun, fun!
Exp Super Cub to Oshkosh. 64.8 hours. We landed Every North Dakota
Public Use airport all 79. ND has a passport book and a stamp for
each airport. We landed most before heading to Oshkosh. After OSH we
flew back to get the 7 we missed on the first try. ND gives prizes
for different levels of accomplishment in their pass port book. Fill
the book! Land every airstrip, and you get a Cap, a Flight Bag, and
a Leather Flight Jacket. I told Carol, this will be the most
expensive Leather Jacket ever. We have to go back up to get it! The
rewards are given out March, 5th.. burrrr
C180J to Port Aransas, Texas for a stay at Amelia's Landing. Always,
a fun time!
RV8 'Borrowed Horse' took us to Santa Fe, New Mexico for a river
rafting adventure, then to Colorado to visit friends. It did lots of
Lunch runs. And short trips to Oklahoma, to visit friends.
We attended the Texas STOL competition. In Llano, TX.
Can't believe we only went to Port Aransas, once in 2016? Usually
get a few trips down there.. perfect trip for an RV for us.
We were at Reklaw Fly-In. Always fun!
My shop saw 2 new RV8s fly in 2016. Hope to see more than 2 in the
All in all a successful year.
The C180J got a new engine. I dropped the deposit check off in
person on the way to Florida. The salesman was surprised! My
log book ticked over the 5000 hour mark. A personal milestone. Now
it has 5123.8.
Did not fly to Idaho, first time to miss since DR and I went so long
ago, 12 years? Plan to go back this year.
Let's here about your adventures from 2016. Wishing all of you a
healthy, happy 2017! Hope for tailwinds and clear skies.
Turbo Subaru RV8 Flies in Australia ...Geoff Braddock's RV-8
New Year's Weekend ...j-red
Having done pretty much everything that could be done in the shed
behind the house, it was time to call the tow truck. This is the
same driver who came to haul N601DR almost exactly two years ago. I
don't know whether he was surprised to see me still alive or not,
but his wild-eyed expressions that seemed to say "You're kidding,
right?" were gone this time. Great guy to deal with. Came at a
moments notice and only charged $150 for the trip which, considering
the time and effort required to rig up some type of support system
on a typical pull-behind trailer, was well worth it.
December Construction Time Lapse Video ...gfb
January 3, 2017. Issue
Courtesy Cars &
Cupp's Drive Inn (Waco, TX). Serving since 1929.
Added a food column. I've been thinking about doing this
for quite some time. Combining courtesy cars with the heavy
patina, character-filled eatery in a smaller town might motivate
someone to fly to a nearby city for the first time. I started
with Texas because that's where I grew up, live and fly. As
others email me with their favorite dive near a runway I'll add/edit
the entries. Explore the page a bit, and I hope you click on
the links for Cupp's Drive In in Waco, TX
in the upper right.
One of those touchstone places that to me always represents 'home'.
C-FDTQ has a Cofa ...Champ
Had final inspection a month ago and got the C of A from
Transport Canada in the mail today - Wooohooo!
Two things that were done to plans needed changing - vertically
mounted fuel filter changed to horizontal (to eliminate a potential
vapour lock in the 180deg loop above it) and flap bottom rod end
bearings from Vans "unibody" to Aurora with bolt & safety washer.
Paint is DIY SW Acryglo. Scheme is sons design. We have a
professional test pilot lined up for the first flight, and my & sons
training. Test pilot owns & flys a RV-3. Working on the POH
and flight test cards. Weather permitting hope to have air under the
tires and the RV grin before to long
2016 Trip Report - Schmidts - N104XP
Cheers! I hope it was a great year for you and your family. We
will miss those we lost, are thankful for the new additions and look
forward to more adventures and memories in the near future.
Dad's Snap-On Ratchet
Last week Jake Lewis sent me this date code graphic after I
mentioned my late Dad's 40+ year old Snap-On ratchet. The
symbol appears between 'On' and 'Off' on the ratchet head.
Jake, thanks to you I've identified it as produced in 1968.
Turns out it's closer to 50. I was three when it was made, and
used it again Monday to tighten those front six screws on the cowl
that are hard to get at.
Of special note is my Dad's signature
with an engraver.
(click to enlarge)