Fri Jun 28 1152Z ....some
interesting tidbits plucked from the
VAF forums (posting
guidelines) Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
RV-10 Self Portrait ...Tim Blake and family (and hat sighting) Farther's day, my daughter can't make it home from TX State so I
take the family to her. [ed. Tim is based at my home field.
Good guy! dr]
Now that felt pretty good. I soloed in my -8 today ...Paul
Tuttle It's been a long haul since I bought the kit years
ago, but I finally soloed in my -8 today. I have to thank my
test pilot/instructor Tom Sabean who demonstrated lots of
patience and courage while sitting back there. No way I would
have done that.
Now the journey begins.
Well, I guess summer is here ....ugh. Screengrab from yesterday. So begins the time of year where you fly
at 0600, if at all <g>.
Q: RV-12 pulls to the left when taxiing
- Since it sounds like you checked everything related to a
possibly dragging brake or wheel friction... did you check axle
alignment and shim if needed, when installing the gear legs and
(Some more feedback):
Not a trick really, but you could get a good idea of the
situation with a couple of straight edges (4 ft carpenters
levels). Lightly clamp one to the outside of each tire with them
parallel to the ground. Drop a couple plumb lines from the belly
center line and measure front and back to see if the values are
all close to the same. Checking 2 ft for and aft of the axle
should be more than enough distance to detect if things are off
Your next question would likely be how much is acceptable. I don't know
the answer to that. You could calculate the value based on what
the KAI suggests, but I think the best thing to start with would
be just verifying if there is a difference between left and
Mud Dauber Problem in the Hangar
Mud Daubers ... we call 'em dirt daubers here in East Texas ... have
taken over my hangar. They especially like hot, dry places. I
have covered all the obvious vents, etc on my RV-3, but these
critters like to get anywhere they can and build a mud nest. I
have seen them crawling into my flaps and, who knows, where
else. I worry that I may have missed something and one will
cause me untold grief someday.
Has anyone tried the "wasp traps" that are available at Home Depot,
Lowe's and Walmart? I've been thinking of hanging several around
the hangar to lower the population, but I have read that they
are mostly ineffective. Any suggestions to help solve the
An interesting thing happened to me today
I flew up to my country place in the Catskills from my home base, Long
Island's 1N2. We landed at Freehold 1I5 and tied down. My buddy
picked me and my other friend Steve up and we spent a few hours
at my place. It started getting grey so we decided to head home.
Steve and I got dropped off at freehold at around 1:00pm. Untied
the plane and took off for home. My plane is an RV-6 with full
dynon Skyview system. I also have a backup steam airspeed,
altimeter and a compass. My thinking was that if the entire
electronic system went poof, I could probably get home on steam.
Anyway, when we were taking off on the grass I noticed that the
stall warning was screeming like it never had before. I mean
beeping way more than normal. I chalked it up to taking off on
the grass, and once we were off it stopped and we started
climbing out. As soon as we got to the end of the runway we
started hitting light rain. Very light rain and I let it climb
to around a 1000ft and throttled back. I have a wood prop. I
didn't want to damage the prop in the rain. We were climbing
slowly and I headed home. I could see the weather was clearing
ahead so I kept it throttled back and continued on. I noticed
that the airspeed seemed very low like 100 knots, but figured it
was because I was throttled back. I usually donít fly that way
on a trip like this. I was climbing slowly and had the autopilot
set. All was well but it seemed much slower than normal even
though I was throttled back. It looked like a nice tail wind
because we had a ground speed of around 135 even with an
indicated of 100. The trip is about 109 nautical, around 45
minutes. Steve fell asleep, I was up to 5500 ft cruising along
and all of a sudden I hear CAUTION in the headset and the plan
dives. I look at the screen and it's saying speed too slow, or
some such thing. Steve jumped up and the airspeed indicator went
from 90 knots up to 145. What the heck? I hit the auto pilot
cancel button when the plane dived and wasn't sure what was
going on. What we think happened was something crawled up the
pitot and partially blocked it. It must have either blown off or
back into the tube further and cleared. The rest of the trip was
uneventful. Luckily it cleared, I donít know what I would have
done had it still been blocking the pitot. I did hit the cancel
button and level it off before I even looked at the screen. But
had it been reading stall and I was really not? I thought I was
so cool having backup steam airspeed and altimeter but guess
what if both are fed from the same pitot you donít really have
backup. I looked at the log file and you can see where it dives
and the pitot clears and the airspeed jumps from 90 to 150 knots
while the ground speed goes from 138 to 150. I havenít gotten to
taking apart the pitot and lines, but I will before I fly again.
Richard Fazio N966RV RV-6 Slider
Advanced Flight Systems PIREP ...Jim Frisbie I would like to offer Kudos to Rob Hickman and the
team at Advanced Flight Systems for their recent help. I have
attached a photo of my panel featuring their displays...
Two weeks ago on a Friday I notice that my EFIS was flicking back
on at shut-down. I had experienced this before, and since I was
planning a trip to Boise for a conference the next week I gave
Rob a call from the cockpit. He gave me some suggestions and
told me to get back with him if it persisted.
Two days later (Sunday) I was coming back into the pattern when I heard
another RV entering on downwind at 7S9 (Lenhardts). I followed
the RV in, and noticed when I rolled out that it was Rob's
gorgeous RV-10. I didn't think much of it, taxied back to the
hangar and started to pull the cowl to do an oil change. Then in
walks Rob, asking, "Is your EFIS still causing problems?"
I told him it had been OK on this flight, but if he wanted to, he could
check it out. He did and found it was not shutting down
properly. He offered to check in out on the bench the next
day if I brought it in. (Their shop is nearby in Canby.)
I did, he did, and with a couple of back and forths we had the problem
solved and we flew to Boise on Wed. with no further problems.
This is customer service at it's best, for a unit that has been
relatively trouble free for three and a half years.
I am especially enamored with his AOA system, which I believe is the best
Thanks again to Rob & Jenn and the team at AFS!
Where did you hit the wall? ....bret
Well, full steam ahead for three years, just finished the slider, now
waiting on funds for the expensive stuff. I think I just ran out
of stuff to do on the build. I don't want to put it on a shelf,
what have folks done in this situation?
Step "Crack" ....J Twilbeck
I found a crack in my RH step....well more of an "un-welded" spot. I sent
an email to Van's to see what they suggest, I suggest a new step
but that's my opinion. We'll see. ...anyone else have an issue
What a difference...with some rest ...David-aviator
Yesterday was hot, humid and just plane oppressive. Literally, it was a
"plane" oppressive day. I spent quite a bit of time
installing the canopy latch and getting it to work smoothly.
About a quarter inch of material had to be removed from the hook
to allow it to catch the latch pin on the roll over bar. It all
came together after lunch so it was disassembled, primed and
I then took on installing the rudder. That's where I ran into difficulty.
I could not get the center attach bracket to line up with hinge.
It seemed an impossible task, I was tired, sweaty and seemed
incapable of getting it done.
This morning after a good nights rest, the task was accomplished in 10
What a difference a little rest makes, seems to clear out all
the confusion and chaos of being tired and wiped out physically.
I will venture to say the same applies to flying these machines,
a little rest before flight will make a difference in how the
brain processes information and reacts to it.
Kitplanes is Looking for Your Story!
Have you ever had one of those moments where you found yourself in the
air, wishing you were on the ground (instead of those moments
where you found yourself on the ground, wishing you were in the
air)? Anyone with much flying experience has Ė we all know that.
And I assume that most of us have read the popular columns such
as ďNever AgainĒ, ďI Learned About Flying From ThatĒ, and their
similar incarnations in other magazines.
Well, at Kitplanes, I am planning on starting a similar feature Ė but
with a purely homebuilding twist.
Tina's Pilot Shop July 4th Specials
....free shipping option if you mention this site. (2)
image flyer below:
-- Rotax filters for our Vans' guys!!"
Just Ordered ...bhassel
Well - this probably isn't a normal Milestone but... The
emp/tailcone kit is going so quickly and over all so well, that
just an hour ago I sent in the order for the wings, finish and
fuse. Everything but the engine and panel stuff.
Thanks to Van's and NAFCO!
I'm hoping that the Dynon radio will make it into the mix before I need
to order the remainder sometime next year.
Of course with an 8 - 10 week wait on the remaining kits, there will be
some down time from building...bummer...
Maybe I'll paint the inside of the garage and hook up the garage air
New Vertical Power Product Announcement at OSH
We'll be announcing a new product in a few weeks that is complementary to
the VP-X and the VP-400. But the announcement will be a bit
different than our other new product announcements. We'll be
announcing it early in the product development cycle to that you
can see how we "build" a new product.
There's a few reasons for doing this:
1. Share with fellow airplane builders how avionics that go in
homebuilt aircraft are built.
2. Get feedback and ideas.
This will be posted in the electrical systems section of VAF forums and
Vertical Power forums. Keep an eye out there in a few weeks.
If you're thinking of buying a VP-X or VP-400 between now and
AirVenture - rest assured those products won't change or be
outdated by the new product announcement.
June Canopy Cover Sale Wrapping Up
(from Bill Miksich at Cleaveland Tool)
""Cleaveland Aircraft Tool is wrapping up their June sale on Canopy
Covers for the RV-4,6,7,8,9. They're discounted to $160, and
supplies are limited. Get'em before #OSH13
Don Christiansen's -8 Baggage Mod
...I took these during Don's recent visit to theVanCave.
He said he uses it to store no more than 10 pounds of stuff
(usually large pillows and fishing rods on camping trips).
Two 90* screws open a door to a small shelf about one foot tall.
My dumb story, and the danger of breaking your routine
...N546RV (building RV-8) When I say "routine," I mean in terms of things
like checklists, preflights, etc.
This past Saturday, I reserved my favorite spam can (an Archer) for a
couple hours of general rust removal. I'm flying into OSH for
the first time this year, and I'm being very conservative about
the whole experience, including making sure I'm comfortable with
Van's on Medium (an email I got yesterday) My name is Jason Paur and I am the aerospace writer at Wired
magazine. We actually met at Oshkosh a few years ago after I had
flown out with Van in the RV-10 for a story I did for AOPA. But
I'm guessing you meet a ton of people there as the man at the
center of the RV universe.
I also recently took on the task of helping the team at a new writing
platform called Medium. I'm writing you on two fronts. One is
simply to share a new story from one of the contributors to the
Lift and Drag collection who just wrote a nice story about being
humbled by the tailwheel after buying an RV-4 (he's a USMC F-18
pilot). And the other is to try and recruit more contributors
for the collection.
As you can see, it's not a commercial news site, it's really aimed at
trying to promote quality writing on a wide variety of topics.
It was started by the founders of Twitter (who also founded
blogger) and in addition to being a new type of writing
platform, they are trying to grow a non-snarky, quality
collection of content. I'm trying to grow the aerospace
collection. I would be happy to send you an invite if you had
any interest in contributing stories, or please feel free to
suggest others if you have some people in mind.
Here's the story about the RV-4.
Here's the intro to Lift and Drag:
other stories in the collection:
Thanks in advance for any help.
1st International flight, Nova Scotia ...tkatc
I wanted to post this trip report for numerous reasons. I wanted to
encourage builders who think the work will never stop, I wanted
to give some insight on how easy it is to cross into Canada, I
wanted to thank our Canadian hosts for going ABOVE AND BEYOND
the call of duty to make us feel welcome, and lastly to show how
great the people associated with RVs really are. Hopefully the 5
RVs that made the journey and the crew will contribute to this
thread as well.
Welcome Sporty's Pilot Shop ...from
John Zimmerman (VP Sporty's)
"Sporty's Pilot Shop has supported kitplane builders for
decades, but in 2013 you'll see a new level of commitment to the
RV community--the most exciting segment of general aviation
today. It starts with the Signature Edition RV-12 we're giving
away for our 2014 Sweepstakes, but there is much more to come.
We are proud to support VansAirForce.net."
GOT IT!! ...VETE76
I started 7 years and 3 months ago!! I have my airworthiness certificate!
the only thing he didn't like was I didn't have a 100LL decal on
or near gas cap! Off to Tx for trans training next week.
First Flight PIREP ...Jay Pratt
"WE HAD A FIRST FLIGHT HERE THIS MORNING. DON KIRMIS RV7A. ROY
WAS THE TEST PILOT, I FLEW CHASE, AND THE GIB / PHOTO GIRL WAS
NO RUNS , NO DRIPS, NO ERRORS."
First flight / Phase 1 issues
So I am about 60% of the way through with the hours and items on my phase
one test program. Several issues have been exposed during this
time and it would be great to have a Thread or Category for
listing of these and how they were dealt with or solved.
Such as, I need a rudder trim on my 7-A because the ball is out of center
when everything is trimmed for level flight. I also know it is
crabbing slightly because I can't fly a straight line without
rudder input. This is a simple one but what is the process to
fix it? I know people add trim tabs but what is the process for
attaching, positioning, etc? (I ordered a piecs from Avory and
hopefully it will come with some directions)
-Why do my fuel tanks take so long to fill the last 3 or 4
-My SL30 is full of static but the VOR works. Just the com side
is out. Is this an antenna problem?
-My TT autopilot doesn't want to plan nice. I checked all the
values against the book but what are others experiencing?
-I've lost about 50 RPM on my prop compaired to when it was
first flown. The only thing that has changed is the OAT is about
30 degrees hotter?
You get the point. Is there a clearing house for phase one questions?
Thanks, Tom Berge! ...Jay Honeck As many of you know, Mary and I have been searching
for an RV-8A since last winter. Somewhere along the way, someone
recommended that we hire Tom Berge, of Minneapolis, to help us
evaluate an aircraft we were looking at in Minnesota. (We were
long-term aircraft owners and pilots, but new to the homebuilt
That went extremely well. Although we did not buy that first aircraft,
Tom was extraordinarily helpful, and his RV expertise was in
evidence from start to finish.
Since then, Tom has helped us in a thousand different ways, and I wanted
to give him a big thumb's up recommendation here on Van's
Airforce. He is truly a "one stop shopping experience", helping
us with initial evaluation (looking at photos on the internet,
specifications, etc.), physical evaluation (prebuy inspections),
test flying, purchasing, modifications, delivery, AND transition
And, I'm glad to report: Success! Tom spent the last four days with us in
Texas, teaching us how to fly our amazing new (to us) RV-8A!
Earlier today we delivered Tom to the big airport in Corpus
Christi, where he rode the executive mail tube back to his home
NEWSFLASH --- LOE 2013 will be held this year in Colorado at the Fort
Collins-Loveland Municipal Airport (KFNL) on October 4-6, 2013.
After 2 years of bad weather in Weatherford, Oklahoma we are have worked
out a deal to bring back LOE to the State where it first
started, just at a different airport.
More news to follow in the next few weeks.
Russ Daves & Russ Kamtz
Update on theVanCave Office
Bought a $119
a/c unit from Lowes over the weekend for the hangar office project.
Game changer. Free TV dinner tray desk courtesy Randy Richmond (on
the condition I never bring it back) and an office chair the previous
hangar owner left behind. Fresh white paint on the walls and
ceiling. Trusty HP laptop in my ever present backpack. I
think I can safely say I officially have an 'office' at the airport now.
Rolled up shop rag for a doorknob and no flooring yet - paying for
improvements slowly over time. It was 96*F in the hangar and 70*F
in the office. I'll take that!
RVs out the window (best office view in the area) - clickable iPhone
panorama below. It's smaller than it seems at 9' X 9', but it's
New Video: Air Compressor and Rivet Set Basics ...54
Hey everyone. I'm posting on behalf of Cleaveland Aircraft Tool today so
Mike can stay focused on some other exciting projects.
We hosted our first "Tool Chat" last night on our Google+ page and it was
a lot of fun. We had about 10 participants total and talked a bit about
air compressor basics and rivet sets. Be sure to follow us on Google+ to
attend future events:
Here's the recording from the June 2013 session...
Fri Jun 21
interesting tidbits plucked from the
VAF forums (posting
guidelines) Wishing you and yours a
happy, safe and RV-filled weekend. dr
Eagle's Nest in the news - Houston Chronicle
For some teenagers, the high school years are often a time when first
dates and first kisses are nervously anticipated.
But for a few local youths, the anticipation was wondering when they
would get to take that first ride in the airplane they just
Really? Teenagers build an airplane?
That's exactly what Clear Springs High School engineering students did
this year. ...
Assembled before move ...rockwoodrv9
We are in the process of making a change in scenery and moving to the
Boise - Meridian area. I assembled my plane so we could show
some of our friends what I have been bragging about the past
year at a dinner party. Everyone got to sit in it and move the
stick around and pretend they were flying. Now I will take it
apart and load it on my trailer over the weekend for the 700
mile trip. Our son is deploying to the rock pile this fall and
we want to be able to help our daughter in law with our
One advantage is hangars are MUCH cheaper in Caldwell than Aspen! I will
miss my garage. It is nice to be able to have it all together -
even if we can't get the cars in!
Misconceptions about pipe threads ...Steve Smith
I keep reading posts by some folks in threads that indicate a
serious misconception about pipe threads.
Pipe threads are tapered. When a fitting with a pipe thread is
tightened, it will tighten until the thread flanks contact and
make a contact seal on the thread flanks of the mating part.
Calling all Vanís RV owners around the world.
Charles Dart, a seasoned and adventurous Vanís RV 7 pilot turned
filmmaker, is taking his passion to the silver screen, and
inviting all the Vanís community to join in.
Flying from Australia later this year, he will circumnavigate the globe
with destinations at thirteen countries, and with interviews and
film capture of this amazing and never before attempted journey.
Bahamas, May 2013 ...Scott Schmidt Life seems to get busier everyday for all of us. Luckily there are
places like the Bahamas that can recalibrate us and allow us to just
relax, build sand castles with our kids and have a good margarita. We
were invited to join up with three other RV-10's and head to the Bahamas
in late April.
Seems like all of VAF was in the Bahamas the same time so I will
try to just hit the highlights and share some pictures. Of course
the kids came with us who had just turned 3 and almost 20 months old. I
was a little concerned about the long flight from Salt Lake to the
Bahamas but they did perfect. They never complained and were either
sleeping, eating or watching a movie.
Thu Jun 20 1159Z ....some
interesting tidbits plucked from the
VAF forums (posting
guidelines) Yesterday morning was
another example of WHY I enjoy the Van's RV community so much.
I woke up at my usual 5:15 AM to finish putting together the Wednesday
edition for delivery around 7 AM Dallas time. Around 8:30 AM
or so, after an hour and a half of doing some computer log file
cleanups, e-mails, and other maintenance chores, I drove out to the
airport to hopefully get off the surface for a bit and maybe work out.
16 1/2 min. in the
Z axis and my mental gyroscopes are once again recalibrated (these gyros
precess rather quickly).
After shutting down, and just before getting on the treadmill, a car
pulled up to the hangar. Bob from Virginia (I won't give his last name
because I didn't get permission and I'm not comfortable revealing that
someone is away from home. He is a regular forum visitor/poster). Also
Robert, who is building an RV-8A in the hangar stopped by for a few
minutes. While we three were sitting around on the couches shooting the
bull, Ross drove up. Four guys sitting in an RV hangar, talking about
RVs on couches the previous owner left. Then Clayton arrives on
his cycle (building -8). Almost a bona fide gathering.
This is what it's all about, right? I mean, it's got to be.
Bob is building an RV. While he's in town he plans on visiting a friend
who is building an RV. He stopped by a hangar full of RVs just to see if
someone was around....to talk about RVs. An RV builder and an RV owner
showed up while we were talking about RVs.
RV-themed back and forth midmorning on a nothing special Wednesday.
That's why we do it. It's that *thing* that keeps us engaged.
Keeps us young. Keeps us longing for time off the surface in a
mechanical marvel. Mostly (for me) it's hanging out with friends
in a fun environment. The hub at the center of a spoked wagon
wheel - the airport.
After 15 min. or so the group broke and went down their respective
spokes, I got on the treadmill for a half
hour, took a shower and headed back home for an afternoon and evening on
the computer. The tone had been set for the entire day. It's all good.
Thursday...you're on deck.
PS: Mom gets her
lens replacement done this morning in her left eye. If you could
send some kind thoughts her way I'd appreciate it.
Chšz King RV-10; Massachusetts N1XS
Amazing RV-10 art work! ... BSwayze find.
.... I put this on facebook and it has been a big hit, so I thought I'd
share it here, too. I must emphasize, I don't know this artist,
I'm not trying to promote anything. It just really struck me as
an amazing piece of work, and I thought I'd share it here. This
guy does these amazing 3-D chalk drawings on sidewalks. His work
can be found online, just google his name. This one looks like
an RV-10 climbing up out of the abyss, busting through the
concrete sidewalk! What do you think?
Help interpret my Ignition Stress Test
Following the advice of Mike Busch from a Jan 2012 Sport Aviation column,
and having recently completed my first condition inspection (at
which time I cleaned and gapped all plugs), I ran an ignition
stress test on cross-country last weekend. Unfortunately, I
really don't have much idea how to interpret the results.
Well I just took the plunge and placed my order
Folks, Van's outlasted me. I was going to wait until they released
the RV-14 empennage kit before I ordered, but I just can't wait any
I just emailed them my wing kit order form and sent my deposit. No
turning back now! Wish me luck.
RV-14 Wing Kit Ordered!
Folded the rudder skin per instructions. I understand the need for a
flat surface and not bulge. Didn't get a bulge but do have a "bow" at a
couple of the stiffeners. Trailing edge is otherwise straight.
Scott (L) and Troy (R) helping out Rob Reece on his RV-8 build.
Guys day out at theVanCave last Saturday.
RV-10 Status ...J Twilbeck Fuel Tanks tested and installed....no leaks!
At 750 hours starter solenoid ...Vlad Starter solenoid quit on me in the middle of a
wonderful weekend before a glorified crowd what a shame.
It was still operational later but I had to knock on it or press
the start button several times.
Autopsy revealed similar to Paul's problem here are Xrays
Advanced Flight Systems Support Story
I wanted to share a very positive support experience, simply because I
believe good support should be, in turn, supported. I purchased
an AFS-5600 a number of years ago, and have had it in the plane
for a while waiting for me to finish and get flying. (I'm
getting close ... I swear.) Recently I noticed that from time to
time the AHRS would not initialize. It would go into a loop of
trying to init over and over again. Annoying, and worrying.
I communicated with Rob about this, including sending and getting text
messages over weekends. Eventually we decided the first step was
to see if the magnetometer might be the culprit (based on some
of the behavior) and he sent me a new loaner to check out. No
joy. He then suggested that the AHRS could/should be switched
out as a next step....
Alaska via Inside Passage
Just got back from a 4 day trip to Alaska via the coastal route. Words or
pictures cannot describe the raw beauty of the area. My Alaska
trip was a dream come true for me, and knocked off #49 of the
states. Hawaii is next.
GoPro on the tail
That is just my first experience in camera usage in flight. There is a
nice follow-me car on fashion wheels at the end.
Father's Day Weekend Mountain Flying
With a full-day pass in my hot little hands from the lovely Missus for
all of Saturday, which happened to be forecast CAVU all day, I
fueled up the Goodbye Girl and flew over to Butte to pick up my
youngest son for a day of mountain flying, airstrip
volunteering, and...fishing. First route was Missoula to Butte,
picked up the little feller (now 21 and 6'3") and launched for
Meadow Creek (0S1) for the annual work party sponsored by the MT
Back in the saddle... (long)
SoÖ some quick background.
I bought an RV-6 in late 2010. Awesome plane with an O-360-A1A and
Hartzell CS prop, smokiní paint job and well built (A&P second
build) but a very basic ď4 packĒ panel (and the turn coordinator
didnít work). Flew it for a year, and at the end of 2011 took it
down for a panel upgrade.
The first year ...Brandi
Today marks the first anniversary of our first flight! In the past 365
days we've flown 239 hours, gone to 59 different airports in 14
different states and 2 other countries.
World's Foremost Source of Original Aviation Nose Art
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The Annual Free Speech Email...dr I got an email over the weekend from Los Angeles
regarding how, in the sender's opinion, VAF stifles first amendment free speech
- assuming it had to do with recent FAA/EAA/AirVenture threads that were
"If I want these type of restrictions I will move to Russia. It is
your site but freedom of speech is not your choice," were
his exact words.He
requested I delete his posts and refund his donation from last December.
We seem to touch on this cyclically - I guess it's time again.
This website is an American private business, and free speech laws do not apply
to private businesses here. But, for
the sake of argument let's say I would allow talk about government
agency this and association that. We can't forget this would have to extend to EVERY country.
RVs are globally enjoyed, it's not just a U.S. thing. Lots of RV folks who contribute here live in countries
outside the America. Tens of thousands, actually. Data point: countries in
shades of blue below visited the VAF forums in the past 30 days, so says GoogleAnalytics.
Click to enlarge. Lots of different governments and GA associations
in that blue. Depending on the source,
there are between 189 and 196 independent countries on planet Earth, all
with governments and small planes (and issues between the pair).
The U.N. recognizes 192 governments. The U.S. State Department 194.
That's an awful lot of non-RV pro-this and anti-that to cloud up the 'New
Posts' results, wouldn't you think? You couldn't possibly be so shallow as to assume only the
U.S. citizens would be allowed to complain on VAF about their government
and GA issues, would
Google 'aircraft associations'. You'll get over 11 million
hits. 'Aircraft Advocacy' returns over 3 million hits.
Plenty of places for people to discuss how their government and GA
associations interact with their country's small plane owners.
I hope now you can understand why here at VAF we're just gonna stick with talking about building and flying
and enjoying Van's RVs. Not governments, or aircraft associations, or government
agencies and their alphabet soups.
If you simply can't live with that, you don't have to. Nobody is
forcing you to either sign up or stick around.
The posting rules are short, and quite similar to tens of thousands
of other forums online. Go Google "free
speech and online communities" if you don't believe me.
Nothing out of the ordinary in the VAF posting rules. Further
research will reveal that online communities that allow any topic under
the sun, with no rules, quickly self-implode. Godwin's Law and all
Feel so passionately about your government, its GA agencies and/or
associations that you just have to type about it somewhere? I'd suggest
going to blogger.com or any other number of free hosting solutions and
set yourself up a free spot on the web. All the free speech a
person could want is only a couple minutes away, if you agree to their
terms of service (which means you can't talk about ANYTHING you want).
All the big GA association sites have online forums themselves, and
interacting with local government on behalf of pilots is in their
respective mission statements.
I appreciate and read all private feedback emailed to me, but these free
speech emails always make me roll my eyes to tell you the honest truth.
It's not just your country we're talking about here. An
RV-8 took flight in Thailand for the first time last week.
Thailand! I recall reading they've had some political tension in
the past, but that doesn't mean it should be hammered out here on VAF.
Take the government talk somewhere else, please. I'm good with keeping VAF discussion focused on one specific activity.....the
hobby of building, flying and enjoying Van's RVs. Something
that is figuratively, and literally, uplifting.
Sometimes though, people can't deal with that, and that's fine.
As for the SoCal individual, I deleted his posts (as requested), his
forum account (as requested) and PayPal'd him his 2012 donation back (as
requested). He complained later how I sent the refund (via PayPal
check). I wish him well.
I happen to believe this site offers a good product, one worthy of its
I strive daily to continue earning your trust, friendship and financial
support. I truly believe we have something special here, so much
so I bet my family's financial future on it.
Yours in Van's RV construction and flight,
After 6 years building from a basic kit I made the first flight of my
RV-8, HS-GMC out of NOK Airfield in Chiang Mai, Thailand. This was under
a test flight permit and all went well. Waiting for final paperwork to
do more flying. Superior XP-360, Sensenich Prop, Dynon Skyview with
transponder, EMS and Autopilot, Icom A210 radio & VP-50 for electrical
panel. To my knowledge this is the first RV flight in Thailand. A RV-9
is also being built at Nok Field.
Class of '61 UofPortland
I have a hangar buddy, Greg Fuchs, who is an alumni of UP and showed up
with this journal from UP dated 2008. Yes, this is RV related!
Polish thought ...Bob Collins You know, it's funny. I haven't been out to the
hangar in about a week or so and the last few times I was there,
I'd get frustrated at looking at some of the areas I want to
polish better than they are... generally wondering if the whole
polish thing was worth it.
But, like I say, it'd been a few days since I'd been out there.
So last evening I opened up the door without much thought and looked at
the plane and my first reaction was " DANNNGGGG, that thing is
So there's that.
First flight, N456HL ...Hakan Langebro
I did the first and second flight on Tuesday. All went well, with some
minor issues, such as high (425F) cylinder temp during climb, even with
the cowl flap fully open. Transponder didnt work properly and the OAT
was intermittent, but apart from that everything was great!
Cylinder temps were find during level flight, around 370-390 depending
on how much the flap was open!
Vanís Fans- More Than Ever, NationAir And I Are Here for You ...Jenny
at NationAir Hello, Vanís RV enthusiasts Ė
Thanks to the many of you who have offered congratulations on my new
position as NationAirís Light Aircraft Sales Manager. I want to reassure
you that Iím still a contact for all things Vanís. I value your
community too much to say goodbye to you! While my new position means
additional responsibilities, I still oversee the Vanís RV program. Iím
still here to help, here to answer your questions, and Iíll still see
you at all the Vanís events I enjoy attending.
A Tale of Two Trips...Paul Sometimes, logistics get complicated. I needed to be in
Carson City to approve the placement of our new house and hangar on our
lot, and I wanted to get the Valkyrie out west (the beginning of a vast
migration). Our Four-Runner was parked in our Big Bear hangar in SOCAL Ė
and I needed it in Reno for the week. Hence Ė fly to Big Bear, and drive
to Reno the next day. Two trips, two modes of transportation. Guess
which was faster?
N184RM AKA "Crazy Woman" has seen the air for the first time
today 1.3 hrs---and what a great day it is--The flight was
amazing and uneventful with the handling and speed that the RV's
are known for. I am a very happy man and can't wait to continue
the phase 1 testing and see where my wonderful aircraft will
N984AW takes flight ...AF_Alan
After 2,692 man hours over nearly 7 years (both irrelevant), I realized a
flying dream come true on 2 May 2013 at Creswell, OR.
Hat Sighting ...Bob Hill I just got back from the US Open and have a hat sighting of
Mark Santoleri RV-9a Builder/Pilot/VAF member having lunch with
the president of Merion Golf club, host of the 2013 US Open,
wearing his VAF hat. I was ejected by security after I got this
shot, as I had busted the TFR of the club house dinning tent
overlooking the 17th green. Sorry it wasn't a straight on shot.
[ed. 'A+' for effort!!! dr]
"The Big Cut"... on a -4
So this past weekend was a big milestone for me in my (re) build. I got
my sliding canopy frame operational (which is actually the HUGE
milestone) and I cut the canopy down in the back and then for
the finally... "The Big Cut"!
Finally got G-RVGO in the air in the UK after a 2 year build
From outside (video)
From inside (video)
Cavanaugh Bay(66S) RV friendly
As soon as I decided to build my RV, I had the vision of it on a smooth
green grass runway. We've got a dirt strip(8U9) 6nm away which a few
folks fly over and get ice cream...I drive not wanting to chip up my
plane. I couldn't take it anymore when Stephen and Melissa said they
were going to Cavanaugh Bay (66S) in Northern Idaho, it was high on my
list for destinations which look RV friendly, So I invited Kris and
Info for Van's Homecoming
Update #2 on the Aircraft Specialty Wheel Chock Group Buy
"Demand has been good, and we ran two batches of wheel chocks this past
week. Due to your requests, we have added orange as a color option for
the wheel chocks, and they also look very nice.
Also, we have updated our website to include the group buy option. If you
go on there, select "Group buy grey, black or orange." You will receive
2 pair of chocks. Also, notice that the pricing is $76.....when you
checkout $8.95 will be added to your purchase for shipping, bringing it
to $84.95 total with free shipping. Also of note is that you can order
another $73.95 worth of merchandise before you bump into the next
shipping level...so if you want a set of flap handles, custom engraving,
or some other items, we can send them to you at no additional shipping
cost with this wheel chock group purchase.
One last note...PLEASE CLEAR OUT YOUR BROWSER CACHE to make sure that all
the new items on the website load when you go to it.
Have a great day, and thank you again for allowing us to earn your
Ring gear placement
I just want to verify before I safety the prop and spacer on that I've
got the ringgear support on correctly.
My finger is pointing to the lug on the crank that has a shoulder on it
that is .03 larger diameter. The 0 hole on the flywheel support
goes on this oversized lug.
180 degrees to the shoulder lug is a shorter lug that is flush
with the ringgear support.
A few pics of the -12 SB
A few pics of the modification. I ended up spraying it with White Rattle
can. But a small amount will show under the wing. My fairings
cover most of it, but you can still get the idea.
Alaska, Denali National Park ....flytoday
3 am, Mount McKinley, Alaska, 40 miles in the background. Highest peak
in North America, 20,320' MSL. 25th Anniversary Trip.
Cleaveland Aircraft Tool is holding their first online Tool Chat next
Thursday, 6/20 from 7:30-8:30pm CDT. The event will be recorded, and
it's an opportunity to see owner, Mike Lauritsen, demonstrate both
beginner and advanced techniques, as well as field a few questions.
Register on the Cleaveland Aircraft Tool Google+ page:
I brought air blast tubing
I brought air blast tubing from my right ramp and attached a
plastic pipe cap with silicone tape. Tubing has slots which blow into
diode cooling window on alternator. Cap is lower than slots and has 1/8"
hole for water drainage. Not flying yet so take it for what it's
Slider rear skirt help
I'm on my second try for this rear skirt and I'm just curious what
people think and if it is good enough or fixable with some rubber
insulation. The gap at the center top is about 1/4 in and about 3/8 at
the side. Also I cut this piece even bigger than the Van's one so it
needs to be trimmed but I hope that doesn't ruin the part that is
sealing. What is a good way to trim the aft part without exceeding what
is covered? This is my second try because I miss drilled a hole in the
other one but it was pretty close at the top and the sides like this one
until I messed it up. I know my frame isn't perfect so this might be
about as good as it gets.
Audrey Reeves, High School Graduate.
(walked across the stage last night)
Various things around her neck represent:
National Honor Society
National Merit Commended
Science Honor Society
Distinguished Achievement Program Recipient
French National Honor Society
SMU starts in three
(biomedical engineering and/or chemistry)
We love you so much, and are so
proud of both what you have achieved,
and who you have become.
Mom and Dad ()
Audrey and RV-6 tail kit in 1996.
PS: Several of you helped pay for this wonderful
child's upbringing via ads and donations, and for that both
Susie and I thank you so very much. dr
N1769K received its Airworthiness Certificate today from the
Indianapolis FSDO. First flight will happen as soon as the
weather and my test pilot's schedule permit.
Ken Indianapolis RV-12 #359 N1769K
Pilot n Paws Sunday
It was a pretty nice Sunday afternoon. The Wife decided to fly a PnP
mission with me. It would have been a pretty mundane trip except
for the weather. We flew three legs. KXSA to KCHO to get the
dogs. Another pilot Kay (flying a Columbia 400) brought the dogs
to Charlottesville from Logan, WV. We took the dogs from KCHO to
KCPK, then made the quick hop home.
Don't Rely On Radio Only!
SO, I had a near mid-air with a twin Cessna yesterday on landing at my
home airport (KAWO). As I was on very short final, about 30 feet
in the air just over the numbers I transferred my gaze from the
touchdown point to the far end of the runway and had my canopy
filled with twin Cessna. Fortunately he was above me and
climbing, but it got my attention. Good thing I didn't have to
Arlington (WA) is a non-towered airport with two runways. 16/34 is the
primary runway with 11/29 as an auxiliary. The wind yesterday
was all over the place. 34 was active when I left, but an hour
later when I returned 16 was a (slightly) better choice. I was
listening to the frequency for about 15 minutes before I
approached and a few airplanes had been using 16 there was then
silence for a while.
Insert witty "scared me death, learned something new" title heree ...Sig600
I debated on whether to share this. I really just want to bury this in
the recesses of my brain and experience tool box. It's not so much a
bruise to the ego, as I am angry at myself for getting to this point.
But figured if it can save a flat lander who heads west on some windy
day, then here goes...
Quick back ground, 99% of my GA flying experience is all east of the
Mississippi. Most of my mountainous flying experience is in turbine
aircraft with the structure/power/wing loading to make mountainous
turbulence a non-issue. I've been doing a little charter flying on the
side recently in and around the Sierras, mainly just for the fun of it.
I've got the exposure, education, experience that I should've seen this
one coming... but didn't.
Our current SOP is to cancel anytime the wind is higher than 25 knots. I
had a quick out/in charter to do, literally one hour total. When loading
passengers for the flight out, there were thunderstorms in the area
moving through however I had a clear path there and back. The storms
were never a player, and out here 80% of all the radar returns are virga
that dry up above about 9K feet anyway. So we taxi out, and launch. The
wind is a stiff 15-20, but nothing unmanageable. However I can see a
dust plume rolling towards the airport and the turbulence tells me the
upper air is a lot more active than I thought. I should also add this
leg requires clearing a mountain range that's at 8700'. Quick hop over
going out, nothing worth noting, it was a nice flight. I land, and am
curious/concerned with what looked like a gust front (minus
precipitation) approaching where we now had to go back too. On the
ground about 20 minutes, and I'm calling home to the ASOS every 3-4
minutes when the winds start picking up. By the time my pax show back up
for the return leg ASOS is reporting 25G33 but it's only 30 degrees off
RWY heading. If it's too bad, I've got a VFR divert with calm wind, not
Trip to a Dealership ...Vlad
A good friend of mine is driving a yellow cab in New York City. He works
on his instrument ticket and we often go places. He is obsessed with
cars especially those running on jet fuel. For two years he was looking
for a specific model and finally found it.
Three of a Kind
3 RV12s met up for breakfast at S37 (Smoketown). Dave & Linda, Mark &
Paul ( aka Daryl and Daryl) and Peg and me. Great time was had,
along with a photo op for VAF. There were a lot of onlookers
providing many nice comments from the locals at the airport.
Red Cube FF drop outs to zero flow
My fuel flow indication from a red cube transducer to a Skyview
system have just started to intermittently display a zero flow
drop out. No fluctuation of the flow is observed, just an
apparent complete loss of signal to zero for several minutes
then back to normal.
Mysterious Intermittent Vibration (long)
Stock ELSA RV-12, 173 hours, current on all SB's, firewall mod
Over the past couple of flying hours I have noticed a slight change in
the spinner "picture" (edge of spinner/ edge of cowl) as viewed
from the left side of the cockpit in different flying regimes.
F'rinstance: at idle, some movement is seen, at run-up the
spinner appears motionless. It stays "frozen" all during
climbout at 5,000 RPM, no vibration felt.
I finally have a plane! Well, I've had one for a while now, but when its
based across the country its easy to forget. Chris Kleen flew it
from Philly to SF last week in 3 days and around 18
hours....without auto pilot and barely enough extra room in the
cockpit for a granola bar. Here is a pic of 59LG in its new
RV-12 Engine Simulator
have not yet ordered my engine or avionics, but I do have all of the
airframe and finish kits. I wanted a way to get the airplane on
its gear (so I would not have to continuously support the tail.
To accomplish this, I used 1.5" stainless angle and schedule 40
stainless pipe and welded together a mount that bolts directly
to the airplane in the same points used by the engine mount.
Once in place, I used two 50 lb. barbell weights. The resulting
100 lbs is approximately in the same place on the datum as where
the engine will be, and allows for the cowl to be installed with
plenty of room to spare.
First ride in an RV
I had caught wind of a special day that had been planned by a member of
EAA Chapter 240 at New Garden Airport (N57). One of the older members,
Jim (whose last name escapes me at the moment, but he's a gentleman and
a scholar!), had arranged to have a P-51D visit the field to give rides
to the first 10 (which turned into 12) people to get their names on the
list. Before you get the wrong idea about where this story is headed, I
was not one of those 12! In fact, that's not what this thread is about
really (although seeing the -51 in such a low-key, uncrowded environment
was every bit as cool as you think it was!).
June Sport Aviation Online
....note James Clark and Doug Crumrine running for office on p119.
We don't do the whole politics thing here, but these two guys have been
members of the VAF forums for years (screen grab below).
Here's a link
to the EAA forums for the political back and forth discussions. dr
Fri Jun 7 1155Z ....some
interesting tidbits plucked from the
VAF forums (posting
guidelines) Wishing you and yours a
happy, safe and RV-filled weekend. dr
Gotta Love Mile-Stones during the build!!!
...Daniel S. This may not be a huge mile-stone but my -7 wing
panels are finally free of the wing stands / jigs after 300+
hours of work. It feels so awesome to have the first "bigger"
pieces floating around my shop. I could not be happier with how
well the top skins came out. We used a mushroom set & bucking
bar method & low gun pressure while riveting the top skins &
they came out absolutely flat & looks like a mirror.
A big thanks goes out to fellow RV -10 builders / bucking
partners Bill & Gordon!!!
My first leading edge!...ConAgraPilot
I was waiting for a time when I could get some help to roll the leading
edge of my rudder. I have worked ahead on the elevators and just
finished bending their trailing edges with my new brake.
Can you feel my pain?
Old guys should have a trained monkey or grandkid to do this. Oh how it
hurts to get back in there! (Just getting there and back out
again is pure misery)
In-flight Self Portrait ...pmccoy Waited a long time to have a photo of me flying MY RV9A. Phase 1 out
over the SoCal desert
Note: I started putting SUN SCREEN on after these flights. Getting a bit
of a burn with all the light coming in the canopy.
No words can describe just how simply amazing these machines are. I have
only been flying the airplane for 4 days but I have already
found the most relaxing thing you can every do. After work I
quickly changed and headed straight to the airport, pulled the
cowls real quick to check everything was still in order from
yesterdays flights, put everything back together and launched.
The plan was to head 40 miles south to KTDO (Toledo) then over
to KCLS (Chehalis) and back home, planned on about an hour of
Why we fly
I know I don't need to convince anyone on here about WHY we love to fly,
and why we love our planes, but had to share one of those "ah
ha" moments from last week.
Flight Time Milestone ...Craig Taylor Today, while participating in formation training with Falcon
Flight instructor Roy Geer, I crossed a flight time milestone - 700
hours RV8 time in four years! What a great airplane; it does everything
well: Cross country, Formation, Aerobatics, Instrument, and even ACM.
All at a very low cost of operation. The RV8 has provided for me the
most fun of any aircraft that I have flown. Thank you, Van!
Wed Jun 5 0247Z ....some
interesting tidbits plucked from the
VAF forums (posting
guidelines) Sorry for the
earlier-than-usual edition push today - driving my Mom to a doctor
appointment Wednesday in Waco. I'm waking up at O'God thirty and
spending most of the day in the car. Upside is I'm out of summer
housecleaning duty for the day (heads up to our kids - Mom is looking
right at you). dr
Pancake Breakfast's 2013
Attended my first pancake breakfast flying in my own RV-12 N470MB into
Gettysburg Regional Airport W05 1-June-2013. Followed my friends
Dave in an RV-12 and Scott in an RV-8 from Heritage Field KPTW.
What a 12yr old and 13yr old should be doing
...playing w/motorized things and spending the day at a GA airport.
Tate and Alex putting around our home field last weekend.
Future aviators, maybe (fingers crossed). dr
NationAir Aviation Insurance Announces New Public Entity Group
"Publicly funded aviation programs have a far greater level of
complexity than those of private aviation, and have additional
budgetary issues as taxpayer funded entities," said NationAir
President Jeffrey Bauer. "With the Public Entity Group, we can
focus on their very specific requirements."
Once Again ...Ron Hasenbeck
I'll start this with an apology up front, but please bear with me while I
rant a bit:
Do you wish to remain alive? How about your passengers? Maybe your loved
ones...they'd probably like to see you on this earth a while longer.
Well, if you do, and if you come down to Key West, then STAY OUT OF
Let me tell you a story of what happened an hour ago, and maybe everyone
will be able to understand my frustration and dismay. We got a small
break in the weather (right now, small breaks is all we're getting, so
we'll take 'em). I made the decision that we'd go out and fly the
aerostat and try to get our customers some data while we could...EZPZ.
So, out to the pad we go, get set up, come off the tower, begin
outhauling, when one of my crew members shouts over the radio, "Airspace
Violation!!!" I turned and looked up just in time to see a single engine
aircraft banking left
was on a direct path towards us) and setting a course towards Key West.
Folks, this aircraft missed us by approximately 1000 ft horizontally,
and no more than 1000 ft vertically. Guess what? Not only would he have
killed all aboard his aircraft, but in this case, the full launch crew
(including myself) were directly under the aerostat (it was at 500 ft
and outhauling) and would have stood a very good chance of being
severely injured or killed by falling debris.
To sum it all up, here's the deal...if you hit the aerostat, you will
die, and all aboard will as well. If you hit the tether that holds the
aerostat, you will die and all aboard will as well. If you hit either
the aerostat or the tether, you have put many innocent folks on the
ground in harms way. If you simply violate the airspace around Cudjoe
Key, we will get your tail number and do everything we can to have the
FAA have a chat with you (as we did in this case and with all others).
I wish I could say I'm overreacting to this incident, but I'm not. This
is truly a life and death situation. I was on shift when the 182 was
brought down after he hit our tether. I never, ever wish to witness
anything like that again. I also don't wish to leave my 3 year old son
fatherless due to a lack of judgment on someone else's part. This is all
very avoidable; stay South of US1 all the way down to Key West and you
will clear us. Simple, huh? That's why it makes me so crazy every time
another aircraft violates the airspace...it is that simple.
Now, here's an offer I will make to anyone who's flying down here...get
in touch with me. I will let you on site...I will give you a tour...I'll
even give you a piece of the tether that the aerostat flies off of. It
will possibly open some eyes as to what goes on here.
Hopefully, I haven't offended anyone, but if I have, I can't apologize
for that. I'd rather have you offended and alive, than happy and dead.
The View From The Treadmill
The family treadmill found its way out to the hangar recently, as
well as a recliner that Susie and I have owned for a quarter century.
That and the wonderful news that the shower has been squared away and
made functional in the last 36 hours. Yesterday made for a
pleasing work environment at 'theVanCave'.
A short flight (.3hr) after pushing out the site, a 30 minute workout
with RVs in the field of view, tunes in the ears and A SHOWER!
Finished off with vmails/emails in a recliner already broken in to fit
my body. Drove home after that without the feeling that I was
behind the curve needing to play catch up.
In the eleven years I've been using this airport, a shower has
never been a real option. What a difference this simple pleasure
has made. I hope my renters enjoy it also. It kinda gets hot
around these parts this time of year - a cool shower ten feet from the
plane is pretty wonderful.
Eagle's Nest (EN-3) / Inaugural Flight
It was a big day for the PLTW Aerospace Engineering students at
League City's Clear Springs High School. It was the day
the Eagle's Nest RV-12 they spent the past 7-1/2 months building
was going to fly!
In attendance were 30+ student-builders, aerospace engineering
instructor, Mr. Roger Elder, assistant school principal, Mr.
Troy Scott, City Council representative, Mrs. Heidi Thiess, ABC
Channel-13, and numerous other news reporters.
VAN'S DELIVERS FIRST FLY-AWAY S-LSA RV-12! ...factory FB page
"We will remember this Memorial Day week for sure. On May 31,
George Longino arrived in Aurora and was presented with the key to
N232VA, the very first fly-away airplane delivered by Vanīs Aircraft."
Dave 'cropdusterdave' Johnson -7 Status
Just got my engine back from overhaul yesterday. Hung it by myself in
like 30 minutes! Somebody please tell me there's a light at the end of
the tunnel. I started the emp in 2004. [ed. There is light at
the end of the tunnel!!!!! dr]