February 29, 2016.
Issue No. 4,062.
Girls Lunch ...Weasel RV-10 pics
Unannounced to us we were surprised by 2 out of state sister n
laws showing up for the weekend. We showed them some southern
hospitality. They seemed to enjoy themselves.
See the pics...
Follow Up Report ...DanH
Started flying this oil cooler air supply duct in early 2013. The
goal was to reduce the temperature of the air reaching the ducted
oil cooler; measurements said the air picked up as much as 17F as it
made its way from the cowl inlet to the rear baffle wall.
I was building the rollover structure in Section 37, and admiring
how all the compound curves fit together like a big Leggo. Next, I
broke open the newly acquired Finish Kit and began to marvel at the
quality of everything from the crating to the components inside. It
made me stop and really appreciate what a World Class product, Van’s
has developed in the RV-14/14a. After 1600 hours of building, we are
highly impressed. (Note: I am building with assistance from an 8
time “Repeat Offender”). I know that the RV-14 program has had its
fits and starts, but I feel Van’s has done an excellent job overall,
for a small company with limited resources. I have a ton of
gratitude for all the fine personnel at Van’s. Thank you!
Dangit! Cracked Wheel Pants ...Vlad
TAT vs SAT and why you might care ...SMO
There is an old thread that discusses this in some detail
I have a G3X Touch and a GRT Mini in my panel, each with their own
OAT probe. The probes are mounted side by side under the wing on an
inspection panel. In the hangar the GRT reads 2*F higher than both
the G3X and the thermometer on the wall.
Level at an altitude of 8000 ft with a true airspeed of 195 knots
(174 indicated, 2300 rpm, lean of peak, 11.5 gph) there is a
difference of 9* F between the two OAT readouts, with the GRT Mini
being the higher reading. I have confirmed that the G3X converts
their probe's data for "Ram Rise" to provide Static Air Temperature
(SAT). It is obvious the GRT Mini is displaying Total Air
Why should you care?
Then you just might get a big surprise when ice accumulates on your
airframe and canopy. Avoiding surprises in the air is good.
If you fly IFR;
If your OAT displays TAT and you think it is displaying SAT;
If you are about to enter a cloud and are not concerned about
icing because your OAT is reading high enough;
So...this happened yesterday ...mbishop
Welcome Weekend Flyer ...NWS LAMP and MOS data visualized.
...app created by RV-6A builder/pilot Thomas Court.
30 day free trial. Ad lives in the Previous Day's News
Thomas) "Since building my RV-6A five years ago I've found it
to be a fantastic cross country airplane even with its basic VFR
But for every trip I took, I thought about the even larger number of
trips I avoided taking. Thinking back at all of those forsaken trips
I realized they had one thing in common, concerns about the weather.
And for anything but a day trip, it wasn’t concerns so much about
the weather outbound, it was worries about the weather for the
The National Weather Service(NWS) does have detailed forecast data
for over 1500 airports in the lower-48 states called LAMP and MOS.
LAMP covers the next 24 hours and MOS covers the next 2 ˝ days.
Unfortunately the NWS hasn’t created an easy way to see LAMP or MOS
forecasts for anything more than a single airport.
That's why I wrote Weekend Flyer for the iPad and iPhone. The name
is based on the app giving you a forecast for your return flight
Sunday afternoon before you depart Friday evening. It takes the LAMP
and MOS weather forecast data and displays it in an easy to
interpret way. Here is the app showing most of the United States:
of the significant weather information is shown on a single screen.
The flight categories are shown with color, cloud coverage with pie
chart symbols, high winds are shown with a blowing swirl icon and
thunderstorms are shown with an anvil cloud and lightning. The map
behind the weather symbols is the VFR Wall Planner you often see at
The screen (right) is showing the forecast for Wednesday 11:00Z.
Changing the forecast time is done by sliding the ‘thumb’ along the
time control ‘slider’ on the bottom of the screen. I spent
significant effort to make sure the app ‘animates’ the weather
quickly and smoothly.
You can zoom in, plan routes, simulate a flight to see what the
weather will be around your plane and more.
For more information or to try it out for free for a month,
Download on the App Store."
& Yang ...Turbo and Vlad
February 26, 2016.
Issue No. 4,061.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
I'm nursing a pretty good sized head cold, so I'm hoping to do a fair
amount of nothing this weekend. We'll see ;^).
8th Annual RV Ice Cream Social Update ...AX-O (near China Lake, CA)
"Folks, we are approx. 2 weeks away and I only have 1 confirm via
If you would like to attend, please email me at axel_alvarez "at"
hotmail "dot" com Use "Ice cream social" on the subject line of the
email for spam filter reasons. If not, it will end up in the
"trash/recycling bin" and I won't know you are coming. The head
count will be used to figure out how much supplies my wife and I
need to buy. All I need is your name and the number of people
attending. Please do not reply to this post with attendance. I
monitor way to many "boards" and it is a logistical problem taking
info from multiple sources. Thank you.
Btw, gas is $3.99 per gal right now."
Sloshed tanks...again ...777Dave
Well after several years of dealing with sloshed fuel tanks on my
RV4, I have decided to deal with them once and for all. It should be
noted that I added fuel filters several years back and also finger
screens inside the tanks.
Even though they look awful, I have never found any slosh in either
of the fine bronze filters. Reading previous articles on VAF
about sloshing compound, I was made aware of Paul Beck. He operates
WeepNoMore, a Company up in MN. that removes slosh and reseals
tanks. Paul received my tanks yesterday and has started stripping
them. He sent these pics. I will update his progress. I
know there are several older threads that document this operation
but since there are still questions popping up about slosh, I
figured I would add my 2 cents...
Slick mag SB ...ongoing maintenance
Q: I have a mag that falls within the Slick
SB F-1100-SB3-008, which mandated 100 hour inspections because
of premature carbon brush wear.
At 270 hours, I decided just to have the 500 hour overhaul done
(which has made a huge difference, by the way)
Question: Does this eliminate the need for 100-hour inspection
compliance under this SB?
A: Depends on the part that the overhaul facility used,
although I can't imagine they'd have a stock of the old, bad brushes
and knowingly use them on overhauls. They should be able to provide
From the SB:
6. Service Bulletin ending compliance can be documented if
existing magneto is replaced by new magneto with serial number
08080454 or later, or if the carbon brush and/or distributor block
has been replaced by one manufactured after August 14, 2008, or
replaced with parts in Champion Aerospace packaging, or if the
magneto has accumulated 500 hours of engine operating time and has
passed the Service Bulletin inspection requirements. Make an
appropriate logbook entry
Birthplace of my engine ...Vlad pics & words
Paul Dye and Gary Sobek were attending an engine school in
Williamsport PA. There was a gap in their course over the weekend
and out of boredom they called for a meet-n-greet. The weather was
nice and some of us decided to come visit our two RV heavyweights.
Williamsport KIPT Lycoming County PA. A towered gem, well hidden
between the ridges. Andy and Scott came as a flight of two I saw
them converging. You can't see them in the picture but they are
SkyView 14.0 Technical Service Bulletin ...issued 2/25/16.
"Some Dynon Avionics pilots have experienced unresponsive SkyView
displays in flight after their system has been upgraded to version
14.0. We believe this issue only affects earlier manufactured
SkyView displays, and only when they are running version 14.0.
Although a complete software fix is not currently available, updated
public test versions of 14.0 are available that both improve the
behavior and allow willing customers to help Dynon isolate and fix
the issue through better diagnostic capabilities. If you are
affected, you may also opt to revert to SkyView software version 13,
which does not have this issue.
Please see the full technical service bulletin for complete
information about this issue."
Are these flares okay?
I'm working on the fuel lines for the fuselage and although my
flares do not have cracks or splits they have what I would describe
as flaking or light scoring. I used a couple drops of oil on the
flaring tool and deburred the tube before flaring. Some photos are
linked below. Everything else on the flare I believe looks great but
not having the inside look polished smoothed has me a little
A Note From Your Host...
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updated as of 2/25/16 10:32:18 CST:
My gut feel is that last year I didn't do a very good job of
conveying how crucial the yearly honor system donations are at
keeping this 1-family small business afloat. So this
year, in an effort to hopefully raise more awareness, I'm reminding readers
on the last Friday of
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unique donors to date
Thank you to those who support this site!
Donations by year compared to
registered forum users
Help with feedback while transmitting
Q: I have had the GTR200 installed in my RV12 for several
months. Recently I have experienced what seems like feedback or echo
while transmitting. The video link first transmission shows what I
am hearing intermittently while my second transmission sounds good.
Usually only occurs while in the pattern at low rpm. I have gone
through all the GTR200 settings and I believe they are set properly.
In the RV12 low rpms drops voltage to 13.1 but the GTR200 still
transmits transmits at the normal 3.5 volts regardless of the bus
I would appreciate any hints... (audio)
A: I had the same thing and resolved it by adjusting the
He made the widow cry ...Bill R. post
I live on a small airpark, maybe 20 homes and a smooth 2500'
grass strip down the middle.
A friend with an F1 Rocket called me Saturday morning and as it
turned out, he was in the neighborhood topping off his tanks on the
I was out helping a neighbor clean up his hangar when we heard the
sound of a high speed airplane approaching. As we stepped outside,
we could see the F1 circling high overhead. The F1 completed the
last circle, and dove for the end of the runway, in compliance with
our HOA operating procedures, he performed a low "clearing" pass,
pulled up, dropped his flaps and promptly landed.
We stood outside, by the F1, talking airplanes and catching up.
Eventually, it was time to go and he asked which way was best for
his departure. After point to the other end of the runway, he
climbed in, fired up, and taxied down the runway.
At midfield, he turned around and departed in spectacular F1 Rocket
fashion. Meaning, he rolled about 200 feet and then went almost
vertical. After doing some mild acro, he again made a departing pass
down the runway, zoomed up and disappeared behind the trees.
As I looked down the runway, I notice one of the long time residents
standing by the edge of the runway, It was BettyJane. BJ's husband
had died a year earlier and he was an amazing guy; A26 Marine pilot
in WWII, NASCAR in the 50's, and Pitts pilot (his neighbor in FL was
As I approached BJ, I realized she was crying. She looked at me and
said, "This is how Cotton used to fly! Make sure he comes back and
does that again! Oh, and I want a ride!"
What a great lady!
One other thing, after he left, my neighbors started blowing up my
phone with text messages. The best message was simply, "WOW!"
February 25, 2016.
Issue No. 4,060.
Status Report: Multiple Pics ...crabandy
I plotted the ordinates "x" and "C" on a piece of cardboard, I
then took C/2 and plotted the curve underneath. I averaged/drew a
curve between the two and made a template for my lip curvature. The
new curve seems doable to shape into my existing cowling. I made a
short and a long template, the short template shows the inner lip
next to the spinner was already close to the right shape.
How much runway do you need?
Q: I'm getting really interested in buying a Farm that's
for sale near where I live. Basically, I'm planning to use a grain
store as a hangar and put in a new grass runway.
The details will be
- 1300' length (400m)
- 80' wide (25m)
- There is a slight downslope - 11' over the 1300' length
- At one threshold (the "lower" end) are some power lines - 20'
timber pole for domestic supply running 90 degrees to the runway
- Both approaches are clear and straight for at least a mile
- The soil is "Type 3" and I'm expecting it to be well drained most
of the year
- There's Drainage ditches at both ends - so no run off's
- It's about 100' above sea level
- The direction is pretty much the best compromise for prevailing
My aircraft is an RV-6 taildragger, 160hp, fixed "vans" sensenich
prop, 1066lb and I'm fairly proficient in flying it.
I would appreciate any thoughts / comparisons from other RV owners
who fly from similar runways
A: (Mel's text in blue)
- 1300' length (400m)
- 1500' length
- 80' wide (25m)
- 20' wide
- There is a slight downslope - 11' over the 1300' length
- Slight downslope from middle to each end - 10'
- At one threshold (the "lower" end) are some power lines - 20'
timber pole for domestic supply running 90 degrees to the runway
- 6' fence across road (north end) and 6'
railroad at south end
- Both approaches are clear and straight for at least a mile
- The soil is "Type 3" and I'm expecting it to be well drained most
of the year
- Class 5 soil. Finally had to go with asphalt
- There's Drainage ditches at both ends - so no run off's
- Good drainage
- It's about 100' above sea level
- 640' above sea level
- The direction is pretty much the best compromise for prevailing
My aircraft is an RV-6 taildragger, 160hp, fixed "vans" sensenich
prop, 1066lb and I'm fairly proficient in flying it.
Rv-6 taildragger, 175hp, Catto 3-blade prop
A: (Michael Robinson) I think it is well within the
capabilities of the airplane - Isn't Vans personal strip pretty
And I also think you grow into your requirement. I have 2600 x 20 of
pavement which I think is luxuriously long, but plenty of people
find it intimidating. I also have a crosswind dirt runway that is
1800 feet long and can get the Rocket down and stopped by the
intersection (900 feet) without much drama.
I suspect that you will learn to bring your "A game" every time, and
that 1300 feet is going to eventually feel excessive.
A: (Scott) The bottom line what do you think?
If you are already quite proficient in your airplane, you likely
already know what you would feel comfortable with (or you could do
some test flights and find where that point is).
What is the shortest strip you are comfortable using with your
There may be days when landing proves difficult, either because
the winds are not as you thought, or because you simply aren't
as sharp as normal. Will you have a convenient alternate strip
you could land at, if your strip proves to be a poor choice
after you are already airborne?
How will you get home after using this alternate strip?
Do you have the discipline to go around if you are off speed, or
too high or the aircraft isn't nicely on the ground before you
have used up too much of the available distance?
Thank you Eagles Nest Projects!
Some nice person from the
group sent me a plaque in the mail yesterday. What a wonderful
gesture! Proudly on my shelf right next to my keyboard!
Q: I've been reading about excessive oil temps, of which,
happily, I have none. Oil temp is, at highest 169 degrees, and at
cruise steady 143 degrees. But, after 5 hours in my RV9A, we are
still experiencing CHT's, with OAT's 16-26 F, @450 at TO for #1,
being the highest. At cruise 2100 RPM, we're 370 for #1, the others
are lower, but not by alot. We have a rebuilt O-320 B1A with chrome
cylinders, conical mount. The prop is a metal Sensenich recommended
by Van's (79") pitch. Two IA's have looked at the baffling and
didn't find any obvious causes for the high temps. We have RTV'd
waste areas and lowered a small amount of the intake dams on both
sides of the intake per recommendation of the IA. Seemingly no
change. I removed two small fiberglass rectangles from the exit of
the lower cowl thinking that that would increase airflow. Still no
change. VAN's tech said they have not experienced temps that high.
It's built per the plans, no mods. I'm not seeing squawks from any
of the 1100 or so 9 builders. Does anyone have a clue here? We're at
wits end. EIS with GRT HXr.
Thanks to all.
A: (Steve) A lot of questions. Not so many answers.
You do not mention quite a few things that may help in anlysis:
Ok, enough with the questions. Well, maybe one other. That may also
lead to a 'WHY' answer. Have you checked the induction tubes,
fittings, rubber, etc? It is possible there could be an induction
leak somewhere? Just one possible answer.
what kind of fuel flow gets that 450 Deg?
What mixture settings during climb/during cruise?
Are these temps while running Full Rich, ROP (how far), LOP (how
What is your climb rate when seeing the high temp (Vy, Vx,
What is your airspeed during this high CHT time?
What is the RPM, MP during these high temp readings?
Where/How are your CHT probes installed?
When the high temps occur what do you do to bring them down?
You state your cruise CHT temp on #1 is 370 with the others not
far off that. How far off are the others? The GRT should give
you all cylinder readings. What are they during this high temp
If they are close, how close?
Do they move in unison with each other when they do move?
I assume the reported temperature is while running somewhere ROP
but not full rich. Have you attempted to run with various
differing mixture settings to see what that does to the temps?
Maybe there are others with questions, and answers, but these are
the ones I have now
A: (Kurt) 1) Check timing. Advanced
timing can cause this. Do you have electronic ignitions or mags?
2) Get rid of the #1 and #2 cylinder dams. They can be added back
later after you solve other issues and determine the right height by
experimenting with different widths of aluminum tape.
3) What is your climb profile like? Where in the climb are you
seeing these temps? You're unlikely to be able to climb unlimited at
85 kts without the CHTs going high. Vy to safe altitude (1000' AGL
or so) then lower the nose for cooling
A: (Vic) My experience has been that the RV-9's will cool
much better with a climb rate around 120 KTS. Even with a fixed
pitch prop climb rates are usually around 900-1000 FPM. Climbing at
VX for any length of time will cause high temps
Status Report ...Axel (AX-O)
Last Sunday I got to 40 hours on the aircraft. Although that is
the number assigned to my aircraft for exiting of Phase 1, I have
not completed all the test and I am not comfortable taking anyone
along yet. So it will remain in Phase 1 until she (and I are ready).
After landing I did a mag check and one of my ignitions did not
pass. The PMAG dropped cylinder 3 and 4 (OMG, how nice it is to have
an engine monitor with history data). I pulled the PMAG, talked to
Brad, over-nighted it to TX yesterday, and will get the fixed PMAG
back tomorrow. The failure was to the coil that puts out spark to
cylinder 3 and 4. They replaced the coil at no cost and they have
been extremely responsive and helpful. In the process of checking
the mags I found out that I got my left and right labels mixed up on
the PMAG switches. The plane operated as if nothing happen while it
operated on one mag.
After first flight, most people stop posting and sometimes it is
difficult to understand if a change worked or not. So…..
- if you have a Superior cold air sump, calibrate the engine oil
stick. It is way off. Do so by adding 3 qts for the initial reading
then add 1 qt at the time and mark your stick. It is a non-linear
relationship. I used a hole-puncher to mark the location at 3, 4, 5,
6 and 7 qts.
-I removed the Rod Bower's air filter. It kept coming lose. The 3
set screws on the unit were not enough to hold the unit on the fuel
servo. I spoke to other folks with the same feedback. I call Don at
Airflow performance and he made me a "Y" intake tube for the FM-100.
That is working much better though I now have to figure out a way to
add an air filter inside the cowl.
-The last configuration of oil cooler, oil cooler location, oil
cooler orientation and engine plenum interface seems to be working.
As the OATs go up I am starting to see CHTs going up too. So I may
not be done sizing the in/exit area. For the most part the oil temp
is operating at approx 135 deg warmer than OATs in flight. Now that
I have a good Idea on how she is operating, I will start the cowling
instrumentation (per DanH’s guidance), Cowl flap design (similar to
DanH’s) and exit area clean up.
-My airspeed indicator is showing 2 to 3 kts slow depending on the
airspeed being flown. So all those people that keep saying the safe
air static ports don’t work…. Well, mine does fairly well. I don’t
have the means to measure instrument error so the total error is
being blamed on the pitot-static system/location error.
-I spoke with Nicole Catto. I am going to the 5 th prop design. They
are moving to a 68 by 84. She told me that this will be the one.
Fingers crossed. They are reducing the cord width and prop length to
increase the takeoff rpm and increasing the prop pitch to reduce the
cruising rpm to 2700. With the airspeed error taken into account,
the plane is cruising at 189 KTAS. Hopefully I can see 190 straight
and level after this change. If not, after the aft wing fairing and
horizontal angle of incidence get worked out.
- I replaced a set of brake pad at 38 hrs. That is ridiculous. I had
my other plane for over 400 hrs and replace the pads once. This
aircraft rolls much easier than the previous one and I keep 40 psi
on the tires vice 35 on the previous, so it taxis really fast. I am
always taping the brakes. Also I have been landing long in case I
have engine failure but still trying to make the first taxiway so I
have been using the brakes. I always pump the brakes prior to start
and prior to landing. Well I did that prior to start and my pedal
went limp. Got out and saw a puddle. #$%^@ turns out the brake puck
came out because my pad was so thin. Will keep a closer look at
this. My previous plane ate tires for breakfast. This one may eat
- got the heavy wing fixed by re-rigging the flap up on the light
wing. One turn on the flap rod did the trick. I then lined up the
light aileron to the flap position in flight configuration. Which
interestingly is not the same position as it is on the ground when
-Bags of dog food facilitated cg range testing. My dogs will have
food for a few months now. Kind of like those folks that prep for
the end of the world.
February 24, 2016.
Issue No. 4,059.
Betty Lou is Getting Used to Her New Home ...Jeff Kersey
My wife named the new plane "Betty Lou", I guess she had the Bob
Seger song on the brain.
I have been reading all the posts about RV landing gear issues on
non paved strips and was concerned about how it would perform at the
field where I wanted to keep it. I am fortunate that my elderly
friend who sold his plane and quit flying offered up that I could
keep my plane at his place if I bought one. 2 minutes from my house.
Steel hangar, 1150 ft flat and useful. In and out from the west. The
winds favor north and south in my area of TN...
I have seen some video of RV landing gear looking very sketchy and
have read about some of the available mods. Anti-plat etc. I decided
to video my gear and see what it looks like an the ground and I am
pleasantly surprised. Not sure that I will do any mods. It already
had the matco hub.
Here are a couple links to video of the gear on the strip. I
love my airplane!!!!
Can I say WOW ...and welcome to Marlon from WA
So today was my first ride in Van's RV 10 in Aurora, OR.
Me+Pilot+back seat passenger+50lb of lead weight...about 740lbs
total in cabin. Runway is 5000 ft long if I'm not mistaken...we
started at beginning, and before we hit the 4000 ft remaining
marker, we were airborne and off we went...up up and away!! All is I
can say is WOW!! So here is the kicker...and I kid you not...a
Cirrus SR-22 takes off just a few minutes after we land...and she
gobbled up about 1/2 the runway length.
I would not have believed if I wasn't there myself, the RV-10 is
Full Moon Over Portland ...Bruce Eicher pictures
Full moon and clear skies Monday night got me away from the
weekend bathroom remodel!
RV-14 Firewall Forward Turntables ...Adam Burch
RV-14 Firewall Forward turntables have been added to the Van's
Aircraft Website. Enjoy!
Click and drag to rotate the image. Mouse wheel or swipe to zoom and
VAF Courtesy Car
Status Update ...Ed Fleming in Zimbabwe
February 23, 2016.
Issue No. 4,058.
Landing an RV-10 on a Rough 2,200' Strip in Baja ...Sean Strasburg
Assessing Brake Pad Wear ...Larry
Q: I have my wheel pants off for painting and thought I
would replace my brake pads while off, but I realize that I don't
know what thickness is considered worn out (i.e. near the rivets).
My pads are currently the thickness of the backing plate (I think it
is 1/8", but not sure). Can anyone give me guidance on how close
they are to worn? If I need new pads, was hoping to order them
before I go back to the airport next.
A: pads are so cheap, i just replace them when i have the
calipers off for any reason, good insurance and peace of mind
A: when I had the pads off, or installing new ones?...I
mic'd the depth of the face of the pad to rivet distance....then
filed a notch in the top edge of the pad to almost the same depth.
Thus at a glance, I can see how close I am getting to 'the
rivets'....assuming fairly flat pad wear, which isn't always the
A: RAPCO pads have wear indicators. See this
thread for more details. It is almost the same as this new one.
I think the Cleveland brake min thickness spec is 0.100". Parker
Aerospace (aka: Cleveland) give away a plastic thickness gauge at
Oshkosh AirVenture booth that can be used as a go gauge as it is the
One can also check the
Cleveland Service Guide
A: Cleveland guide says "lining worn to a minimum
thickness of 0.100" (2.54mm) must be replaced
A: This is also a good time to look for even wear between
inner and outer pad to confirm the caliper is floating properly.
Always replace the pair if one is below .1"
A: Most brake pads have a small instep at the ends, that
indicate the max allowable wear. It closely represents the depth of
the rivet head. Often your time is worth enough to change them every
annual even if you have a bit of comfort left. It is faster and less
costly than refacing the discs.
All I can add is that if you have Groves Discs and calipers,you will
do very well to use Groves replacement pads.
ACS only had RAPCO pads. SO I used a few sets, however they have
really coarse pieces of bronze that are far too aggressive for the
groves discs. I hosed a set of discs prematurely learning the
The Groves pads do a fine job of braking as designed, with much less
gouging of the discs.
The groves pads cost more than the rapco, but are worth every penny.
YMMV and good luck
Milestone: The Wings and Tail Have Been Fitted ...Sam Bovington RV-8
The last few week have been busy fitting wings and tail. the
wings are hanging on 4 drift pins per side. Have drilled out rear
spar and tank attach. Now finishing up flap fairings. I've been able
to run flaps on internal battery power. I had similar issues that
other have had with flap fairings, but things turned out OK.
Starter Engages (delays) Update ...ao.frog
This is an update to the tread I started a while back:
Two things has happened since then:
1) I have replaced the starter relay but the delay is still there.
2) The delay has gradually became longer: now it's 13-15 secs.
Therefore, I have decided it's time to get to the bottom of this
once and for all. Today, I did some more checking and here's the
Immediately when the starter relay "clicks", there's power on the
out side of the starter relay and the starter turns the engine.
When I manually put 12V onto the starter wire, the starter
immediately turns the engine.
Therefore, it seems to me that the starter and the starter relay is
I measured the volts on the little terminal on the starter relay
which receives power from the ignition switch through a small wire.
I guess that's the terminal who makes the starter relay engage when
you turn the key.
(I have the A-510-2 ignition switch)
There I discovered something strange: when I turned the key to
"start", the volt on the little terminal showed 9,2V and then slowly
started to increase. After approx 15 secs, the volt read 10,5 and
didn't go further. (the starter key was held in "Start" position all
Then I made a new wire, and connected it from the terminal of the
ignition switch and to the little terminal of the starter relay.
The result was the same: approx 9,2V when the key was turned to
"start" and held there. The volt climbed slowly to 10.5 and stopped.
Finally, I took a wire and connected it directly from + on battery
to the little terminal on the starter relay, and now the volt read
12,0 right away and stayed there.
Based on these new findings, I'm thinking the fault is within the
A-510 ignition switch. It seems to me that 9,2V on the little
terminal shows that somewhere from the ignition switch and to the
little terminal, there's some resistance who "steals" the volt.
The wire from the ignition switch and the little terminal is short,
so I doubt the fault is there.
That leaves me with a faulty 510 ignition switch.
Before ordering a new one, I'm wondering if any of you have some
February 22, 2016.
Issue No. 4,057.
900 HR update RV-10 ...multiple GREAT pics courtesy Weasel
Strange Looking Cylinder Wall ...Kevin Horton
The IO-360-A1B6 engine in our RV-8 has been making some metal. I
first noted it when inspecting the oil filter after an oil change in
August - I found roughly 50 shiny, ferrous flakes. I consulted
Lycoming SI1492D, which describes various types and amounts of metal
one might find in an oil filter, and recommends action. Based on
that recommendation, and after consulting with three Aircraft
Maintenance Engineers (an AME is the Canadian equivalent to an FAA
A&P), I flew the aircraft for two hours and checked the filter
again. I counted 7 flakes, so I flew 10 more hours (I was away for
most of the rest of the year, so this took until January). This time
I found the rate of making metal had gone up quite a bit, and now I
was seeing what looked like aluminum along with the steel, so I
grounded the aircraft.
Flying home last night ...NovaBandit RV-10
Had a nice IFR flight up to KSTC and back to drop off my CFII's
brother. It was really a nice night, and a great view after breaking
out below the overcast!.
7A Status Report Pics ...bret
Mark your calendar August 20th, 2016 ...Vlad
Second annual condition inspection wrapped up ...PilotBrent -12
Finally finished last few items for my annual inspection /
maintenance today. 205 hours. Few tidbits....
Vividia VA-400 Borescope Review ...Kevin Horton
Panel Status Milestone ...Jeff Green
February 19, 2016.
Issue No. 4,056.
Susie and her 90 yr old mom are going to the Iowa
State / Baylor Lady Bears game Saturday at 2pm CT (televised on
FSSW+) with one of Susie's childhood friends (Marilyn) at the
Ferrell Ctr in Waco. Susie and I watch the games regularly and
always look first to see if Marilyn's dad is there - 2nd row, straight
up from between the 'B' and the 'A'. Pic at right. I *think*
Susie and her mom will be sitting on that row. I hope so, as these
are great seats. What a treat!
We try to visit with Marilyn's family when she comes back during holidays
(Mar lives in CA), and when we do it always ends up a discussion on
building airplanes. Even after 5 years of building and 14 years of
flying, they can't believe somebody can build a plane in their garage.
To them it's like I went to the Moon. To you and me it's the most
normal thing in the world.
If you've never watched the
Baylor Lady Bears (roster)
on TV, give it a try. Their coach Kim Mulkey is the only female
player to have ever won championships as a college player (LSU),
Olympian ('84 gold), assistant coach and head coach. The team is
Tate and I are going to stay home, eat potato chips on the couch, leave
garbage on the floor, and maybe have a burping contest. Might even
go flying for a bit, Wx permitting.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend. Go
Status Report ...Ian Warburton (Canberra, Australia)
Well, after taking nearly a year to build the horizontal
stabiliser, I’ve managed to increase the pace a bit. Vertical
stabiliser took 18 days and 24 build hours. Now, if I can keep this
up I might finish this aircraft in a respectable amount of time.
Engine mount wear due to cables ...KatieB
I found a few wear marks on the engine mount as I was taking the
engine off the other day. There were PVC (I think) plastic shrouds
around the cables in the areas contacting the mount to prevent them
from rubbing, but it looks like they didn't do much good. I don't
know if there was just a lot of grit that got down in between there
This wear mark is after 450 hours of operation. I think it's just
through the powdercoat, but I won't know til I clean it up some.
There is a corresponding flat spot on the plastic. There are a few
more spots like this as well.
So I post this as a caution to people who might think having the
plastic protectors is all you need. And, I'd like to know if there's
a better alternative that might not wear so badly. Is there a better
material to use for this, or should I just be careful to keep the
The problems with cheap 5v adapters ...Glen
There have been a few posts regarding the use of the 5V cigarette
plug chargers for mobile devices. One issue is that some of these
generate interference in radios and other electronics.
The fact is they do.
Some are better made and better filtered than others.
I recently diagnosed an issue that was directly related to a noisy
cheap 5V adapter (thankfully not in my airplane)
Free shot bags for you, feedback for me ...Stewie
I am developing a "kit" of small shotbags to be used as building
RV Buddies Get Seaplane Rating
Clayton McMartin (RV-8) and Gary Platner (RV-8) sent me this text
Thursday, "Greetings from sunny Florida from the only two friends
you have.....with seaplane ratings." Gary was my CFII for
a lot of my IFR ticket, and gets extra credit for wearing his VAF
cap <g>. Clayton, well you just have to meet that guy.
I admit I'm a little jealous, but I'd never admit it to them.
Maybe I shouldn't be typing this...
Quick-Build versus Older Design Slow-Build ...David Paule
Got to help inventory an RV-10 quick-build last night. I'm
building an RV-3B and have a Cessna 180. Some impressions:
1. The plans are so much improved over the old plans. Now they're in
11 x 17 format with well-illustrated step-by-step detail.
2. We put away much fewer rivets than from my standard-build kits
even though I have a smaller airplane. The missing rivets? Already
3. Quality of the riveting was generally excellent.
4. One thing made an impression - a line in the inventory list said
"ailerons." I built four of them to get a couple of decent ones and
they took me 44 to 50 hours each. Last night we checked the item off
the list in seconds. "Ailerons - check." Dang! That was easy.
5. We found one rivet in parts where the fit of the formed pieces
wasn't all that hot (the rivet was fine), and another part that
wasn't shaped all that well. These were things very similar to what
I found in my kit. Looks like Van's still has trouble with some
forming operations, especially at the leading edges.
6. The shop had good lighting over our work table, and not-so-good
elsewhere. It's really important to have good lighting for the whole
7. The -10 uses electric flaps and I was surprised at how heavy and
how small the actuator was. My -3B uses manual flaps and they are so
much lighter. My Cessna 180 also uses manual flaps and I love them.
8. I didn't measure the RV-10 cabin but it appeared significantly
wider than my Cessna 180's cabin. Guess Van's has taken the measure
of modern U.S. adults and found them, well, wider. This won't be an
issue for the very fit builders of this particular airplane.
9. The RV-10's floor wasn't flat. Hard to imagine how it could be
with the spar there. The Cessna 180 floor is flat, except for the
front seat tracks, and that's come in handy a few times.
10. The -10's baggage door is ample but there's a fixed cross-brace
in front of it separating it from the rear seats, which could be a
My overall impression is that this airplane will be ready for major
assembly and systems installation quite soon.
The RV-10 Forum
AF-5000 Now Supports the Dynon EMS-220/221
The AF-5000 series of EFIS screens now support the Dynon Skyview
EMS-220/221 Engine Monitoring Modules.
With the latest software update the AF-5000 will now support all of
the the Dynon Skyview modules.
RV-14/14A FWF Kits Now Available for Order ...mothership news.
February 18, 2016.
Issue No. 4,055.
It's been (476) days since my last larger-than-two-airplane
formation flight. Wednesday the schedule worked out in a way that
I could be part of a 3-ship with Scorch and Scroll. Detailed
briefing, game-faces-on .5hr flight flown by the book, and an
informative debrief that helped restore some of the motor skills to a
slightly re-honed state. Felt really nice, and reminded me again what a
perishable skill this is.
To date I have (287) hours of RV formation. Time well spent for
a nobody Baylor business major former cube worm.
Virginia Aviation Ambassadors Program ...Vlad
Couple three years ago an RV builder and flyer Don
Alexander sent me a booklet and a passport. I forgot about it till
recently. I was looking for a place to fly and it struck me I've
already got a destination. So I dug the old paperwork out and
learned that Virginia Department of Aviation has a great program.
program is designed to encourage pilots to fly to all of the
airports in Virginia as well as visit aviation museums and attend
safety seminars. 66 airports to visit? I am in
Due diligence on a cold morning of Feb 13, 2016.
DIY Painting Update ...Dennis Enns (Kingsville, ON)
Finally started exterior paint. Process has been to scotchbrite,
solvent wipe, acid etch, rinse, alodine, rinse, prime with AkzoNobel.
First time using an HVLP gun. Still need to tune this a bit.
Total Solar Eclipse Van's RV Party? ...Chip Freitag
August 21, 2017. Path of totality below...
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Good Advice That Needs Repeating Occasionally ...Mel
Emailed to me by someone who shall remain nameless...
February 17, 2016.
Issue No. 4,054.
Charlie Kearns RV-8
My first build- RV-8
...welcome David Kimber from Tusla, OK
I've been lurking on this site for a few months and want to say
thanks to everyone for the awesome information so far. I learn
something new every time I'm on here. I'm new to building airplanes
and have a ton of questions. It seems like every time I get an
answer to a question, two more pop up.
After much consideration, I think I'm ready to pull the trigger on
an RV-8 quick build kit. Before I order plans and empannage, I want
to make sure I'm going with the correct model.
My main mission is to fly back and forth from Central Colorado,
south of Denver to Tulsa. I've wanted to fly for as long as I can
remember and now seems like the best time in my life to do so as we
are moving to CO and I would need to go to and from Tulsa
occasionally for work. I also want to putt around with the wife and
see the sights, go on some fun trips and learn as I go. This is what
has turned me on to Vans the most as they seem to fit the bill for
all. Above all of that, my two biggest concerns are speed and fuel
burn (that may change as I go). I'd like to be able to make the trip
around 3 hours. I'm not much on aerobatics (that may change, I have
never ridden in anything but commercial aircraft and medical
helicopters). I'm choosing the -8 over the -7 as there is a little
more room for each of us, and I'd like us both to see out of the
sides (more her preference; happy wife, happy life, right?). We are
both around 6 ft tall. It would be me flying solo 95% of the time.
So far, does it seem like the RV-8 would be the right model for me?
As far as motors, props and all other things, I don't know enough
yet to make a fully informed decision. I'm all ears!
Also, if anyone in the Tulsa area has some insight and wants to help
a new guy out, I'll buy the drinks and food just to listen.
Again, thanks for the info so far, this website has been an awesome
Dogs In The Shop ...Av8torTom
Let's get this bird in the air already!!!
234kt Groundspeed / 154kt IAS ...RVbySDI
Thanks Mother Nature. . . I think!
After reading many of your posts on this thread, I did not think
there would ever come a day when I would be posting here. After all,
I typically fly around 160-170 MPH TAS in cruise. That is a far cry
from reaching 200 KTS. Even ground speeds do not usually get me
close. Well, last week I had an opportunity to see what it is like
to get up to these speeds.
Courtesy of a High rotating in one direction and Low rotating in the
other direction the two fronts were squeezing the air right over
Oklahoma. It turns out I had to make a flight on the very day this
was going on last week. I had to fly from OKC almost directly in the
same direction as the screaming prevailing winds. The photo below is
of the EFIS and Garmin Pilot during cruise on this flight. The
lighting was not ideal but hopefully you can see enough of the
details. 182 MPH TAS (158 KTS), Winds 324/101 MPH (88 KTS), Tailwind
component 79 MPH (69 KTS), Ground speed 234 KTS, Fuel Flow 6.8 GPH
that equated to around 40 MPG! The flight was only 132 nautical
miles but made it in less than 40 minutes!
Trying Ghost-S HD Camera on My RV-7A
Link to Dawie Botes 89pg RV8A POH Added
February 16, 2016.
Issue No. 4,053.
Tate Reeves is now updating the RV White Pages!!!!
His first work session is now online <g>. We both expect some
trash talk shortly from his big sister.
PS: Michael Elstien, we didn't get all your
RVWP info. Can you resend please? Thank you!
First Phase 2 flight ...Anthony
Our flying club flew out to KDED (Deland) to have Valentines day
breakfast at "The Perfect Spot". You get to eat out on their patio
while people jump out of a perfectly good airplane. My Valentine was
my first passenger breaking the bonds of my 75 mile/40 hour
RV Family Portrait ...Robin Marks
Preflight in our RV-10. Enough room for my Wife, Daughter, Friend
& 3 dogs! Mutt Muffs or ear plugs + Bandana mandatory when
RV-12 Canopy Lock Official Release ...Aircraft Specialty
Dog in RV Pic ...RGLives
February 15, 2016.
Issue No. 4,052.
Completed RV-8 ...Tom Ellis
Women's Air Race Classic now accepting experimental's for exhibition
Looking for Women experimental teams to fly in the Air Race
Classic race in Late June. All info can be found
Cyclone (Stephanie) and Gretchen, RV-7, out of Denver are entered as
Racer #24. This is the old Power Puff Derby started in 1929.
It's a 4 day transcontinental, about 2500 miles. June 17-21. I have
flown the race as co-pilot 3 times and can answer any questions. You
learn so much about your RV, you increase your piloting skills are
have a blast. It is one of those life events you will always
remember. I have a 15 page presentation that walks you through the
whole process of entering to finishing the race.
So what do you think..... Bonnie, Louise, Marion, Cookie (Tonya),
Gail, Slasher (Kathy)?????
RV-7A - In Paint
Mod Progress Pics ...crabandy
Milestone: Wings done (mostly). Fuse started ...Bjorn Nilberg
Dog RV Selfie ...pmshep
N427DK first flight video
Dog RV Selfie ...RV8 Tom
N914VA RV-14A First Flight Video ...Mitch Lock
Wings Over Southern Ohio ...KALEWIS pic
in RV Selfie ...BruceEicher
Cold weather flying in the RV12 around Maine ...Dvalcik RV-12
It was -17c today at 3000ft. My modified oil cooler shutter was
working like a charm. I was able to keep temps up to 235 allowing
the cabin heater to work and keep the cabin warm. The Rotax was
purring at 5400 RPM with great performance.
...ad lives in the previous day's news
Non-RV: You know you're getting old when....
...apartment complexes you helped wire as a teenager in '82
are being torn down. If memory serves, I
up every dishwasher in this complex after school and on Saturdays -
at $3.05/hr <g>. I had three hours logged as a student pilot,
and I still have (and use) all the tools.
February 12, 2016.
Issue No. 4,051.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend. Woof!
Dogs in RV Selfies ...Bryon Graves
Flying in South Florida ...Turbo report
"We had a huge group of Florida flyers land at Indian river
aerodrome, just west of Vero beach, for a nice lunch and then a
special treat. Here is Roger's summary..."
She's DONE! ...KRviator 9A
After nearly 5 years of blood (yes, really), sweat, tears and
reaching the threshold of AIDS twice - but no drilled finger
strangely enough - Aurora Australis is now, OFFICIALLY, an
Wearing the numbers 19-8519 on her side, she joins only 1 other
RV-9A on the RAAus register, with only a forgotten signature on the
W&B form holding up the registration process for a day. I was fully
expecting another bunfight with RAAus about having "another RV" on
the register, but after finalising the punch list items and sorting
out the paperwork, it went smoothly, so a big thanks is owed to
Leanne in RAAus HQ!
Until I get home to button up the access panels and prepare for the
test flights, the registration is deemed "Provisional", with it
moving to full registration once the test hours are flown off and
the finalisation form submitted.
Interior Panels Painted ...Larry Larson
Pair of RV-14a Kits
"Hanging around the hangar at DVT awaiting the FWF kits."
Mothership Closed President's Day
"Van's Aircraft will be closed Monday February 15th 2016 for
Phone, Fax, e-mail and Web Orders placed after 12PM noon (Pacific
Time) on Friday, February 12th 2016 will be processed on Tuesday
February 16th 2016"
Dogs in RV Selfies ...Duncan, BC
Welcome Open Flight Solutions
$200 ADS-B Quick-Build Kit.
Ad lives in the Previous Day's News
February 11, 2016.
Issue No. 4,050.
Flight Profile View Now in Garmin Pilot...v8.1.0 iPad
When I powered this up last night it told me v8.1.0 was available
for download. With it comes a new Flight Profile View.
So I installed, found some Wx and created a flight through it -
click to enlarge screen grab below. Items of note: You
can 'grab' the altitude line and move it vertically to see how that
affects your time, obstacle, and airspace clearances. It shows
where the cloud layers, their coverage and wind speeds at different
altitudes are. Tapping on anything in the profile lets you
drill down in the data for more information (airspace, clouds, etc).
v8.1.0 has other improvements, but the profile view got my attention
(click to enlarge)
I also discovered a new (maybe just new to me) feature regarding
winds when choosing an altitude for your flight. This morning
when I hopped up to GLE for some gas I *think* I noticed it giving
me more info than it used to. Specifically fuel used, ETE and
Wind components - helpful when picking an altitude on a longer trip.
iPad screen grab below...
My flight to KGLE and back used the profile below - threading the
space between the top of DTO's 2500' Class D (I was talking to 'em)
and the floor of DFW's Class B.
Slight tangent about displaying info...I have read a few books
from Edward Tufte
over the years about presenting large amounts of information
graphically, and this profile view got me thinking again of the work
Charles Minard. His chart drawn about the French Army
losses during the Russian Campaign of 1812-1813 available for
viewing (in English)
HERE. Spend some time on these last three links if you
have time to kill at work. I dig this stuff more than I
to airplanes and bringing it home, yes, I would love to someday see
Tufte Sparklines (example at right) in my EFIS as screen
resolutions increase. EGT, CHT, Oil Pressure - band of normal
range with historical data overlapping. Maybe bluetoothed out
to the iPad retina display. Thousands of data points in the
size of a postage stamp.
The data reporting just gets better and better these days.
Exciting times. This profile view got some creative juices
going, I guess.
Nerds of the world unite! ;^)
First Flight: Doug Kott RV-9A ...multiple pics and lotsa text
What a rush.
Earlier today I pulled back on the stick of an airplane I built in
my garage. It leapt into the air and stayed there!!!!
Perfect conditions at Cable Airport: a balmy 77-degree February day
(El Nino on hold temporarily!), some light cirrus clouds at about
20,000 feet and zero turbulence. P-factor, etc. caught me a little
off guard on the takeoff roll and I veered a little to the left, but
I lofted the nose wheel a few inches and she was flying in 500 feet
or so. I've done this hundreds of times in rental Cherokees, DA-20s
and 172s, but I have to say it's a little surreal when you,
your-own-self, have built the thing and point it skyward for the
Do I have a CHT problem? ...Clark Carroll
My RV-6A ...John Bonewitz
Hi, Just wanted to check in. I'm the proud new owner of an RV6-A.
I'm not the builder, but I had previously built an O-235 powered
Kitfox Series 5, which I sold a couple of years ago. I've been
wanting an airplane better suited to long trips, and had been
looking at RV7's, and I went to take a look at this airplane so I
might have a basis of comparison between the two models. Once I saw
the amazing build quality of this airplane I knew I'd be hard
pressed to find one as nice. Plus, the price was right. The airplane
is powered by a Lyc. O360 with a FP prop and was finished in 1999.
It has only 215 hours on the engine. The panel is a bit dated, but
I'm planning a refresh in the future. Right now, I'm trying to solve
an issue which as developed with the Electroair ignition. I'll post
a question about that on the General forum.
I've been lurking the forum for awhile now, but I'm looking forward
to contributing more in the future.
All the best,
February 10, 2016.
Issue No. 4,049.
Monday's Off, Quick Beach Run! ...Bruce Eicher RV-8
After entertaining for the Super Bowl then overnight guests that
hung out till early afternoon (she was the daughter and ground crew
of a famous Gee Bee pilot, so I tolerated the stay) I was so anxious
to take to the warm blue skies!
Katie and our Dog Hana quickly jumped at the chance for beach and
dinner in Manzanita...
Twenty minutes over the coastal range, cross winds until swirly
winds below the treetops landing, always keeps you on your toes...
Exhaust Valve Questions ...jdeas
Did a leak down and scope last night and had some questions given
the difference in the exhaust valves. Cyl 1 and 3 I expected however
2 appears to have abnormal lead buildup and 4 is really cleaner than
1 80/74 2 80/65 3 80/75 4 80/77
Cleaning and Preparing Before Leaving for Paint ...Carl in Visby,
Where is Visby, Sweden?
RV-4 Electrics Update ...The Swede
Firewall forward all connected, only flat thread remains to be
applied here. Waiting for some 3x22AWG shielded wire to arrive with
the return of the programmed ELT, then I can proceed with connecting
all the DYNON D-sub pins.
Recycling at theVanCave
Thanks going out to Smokey Ray for the table he didn't need
anymore. It fits perfect in the hangar office (with 1/2" to
spare on each side). We're still in the 30's-40's (F) these
mornings, so setting up the daily backpack office is much
easier with this table. The desk I use at home is a little
2-person table like this that Susie and I bought at Target in about
1988. Smokey, I might use this table for decades... ;^)
Three RVs visible out the office window. How could you ever
improve on that view!?!?
(click to enlarge)
February 9, 2016.
Issue No. 4,048.
Seen at the airport...
....a good idea for getting air and lights off the ground.
Deployment help needed
Q: Hello VAF!
I'm getting home from an all expense paid four month vacation to the
Middle East on Saturday. I was excited to get back into my RV-8 to
go fly home until I found out that the plane wasn't used while I was
away. Long story short, the plane hasn't been flown in at least two
months and the weather has been very cold! Fortunately, it was in a
hanger the whole time.
Bottom line, what do I need to do to make sure the engine is safe to
fly? When I left, there was only about 15 hours on a fresh oil
Thank you for your time!
A: Change the oil and go fly after a very thorough
pre-flight and ground run.
A: Don't spend one minute fretting over it not flying
for 2 months.
A: Since the oil was relatively new, and if you parked
it hot (oil had been up to 180 or so) then the acids would be
quite low and being parked a non issue.
A: Thorough preflight, let the engine come up to temp
and go fly it.
A: ...it is better for the engine to set than to ground
A: Heck, I've left an RV-8 sitting untouched for longer
than that and I see it every day!
A: ...don't sweat the couple months of it sitting.
Video- Flying down the coast --Australia (Perth)
From the mothership...
Status Report: Autopilot Servo Pic ...David Paule
What Have I Done Wrong? ...K Edmunds -14
Q: I have made it the step 8-12 on the empanage and am starting
to cleco the HS spar together. My experience has been if it doesnt
go totgether i did something wrong. It has happened a couple of
times. So right now I am battling with the HS Stringer Web Assembly
aligning properly with the spar.
These parts obviously don't line up the way they should.
A: Back up to page 08-09. Note that the flanges on the
stringers go the opposite direction (aft) than the flanges on
the web (fwd).
Ski slope ...Vlad
February 8, 2016.
Issue No. 4,047.
Congrats to the Denver Broncos and their fans!
Great game! No flying this weekend, but Tate and I went out to the
airport so he could practice parallel parking in my soon-to-be-his
truck. Those are Smokey Ray's old kitchen chairs <g>.
Life w/an RV sometimes means using the taxiway for other things. ;^)
Hope you had a nice weekend and your Monday goes well.
First flight N16GN ...Greg Niehues RV-9A
After 5 delays for various
reasons, the weather was decent and the requisite family members and
friends were present, and N16GN finally slipped the surly bonds! I
bent the first metal in January of 2008, and I've got 1895 hours in
the build so far, with the wheel pants and gear fairings still to
Year 2015 recap ...Shawn Li video
I had great fun in my RV7 in year 2015, flew about 130 hrs in it
(I know that is not an impressive number, but the fun factor is high
including the first trip to Oshikosh in my own plane. Here is a
short version of recap. There are a lot of rides that I don't have
picture or video of, I will do a better job to capture the fun in
Colorado Winter Flight ...Joe Zuffoletto RV-8
Cedar Mills Update ...Chris Pratt
Hurray -- my favorite restaurant and landing spot is reopened.
Looks as good as new.
Painting Update Pics ....Steve Melton
Milestone ...Charlie Derk RV-10
Elevator Finally Finished! This has been the most time
consuming piece so far... probably the most frustrating too!
Dick Bangsund RV-12 Status
February 5, 2016.
Issue No. 4,046.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled
"I was tinkering with the GoPro on a
day in western Maryland recently and came
up with this . . .Happy 2016!" -- Dave Hirschman
When did you first see / hear of an RV?
- Bill R. - It was in 1988, my wife and I were taking a tower
tour at SNA along with another young couple. They had just
started building an RV-4 and we're rightfully very excited and
told us all about it. I sure wish I had taken him up on his
offer to look at his project.
- Claude Pitre - I first heard of RV's when I saw it modelled
in Microsoft Flight, 4 years ago. Beautiful RV-6A in that short
lived flight simulator.
3 years later (Feb 2015) I saw (flew in/flew) my first RV, it
just so happened to be the exact plane that the Microsoft Flight
version was modelled after, same paint scheme, same registration
number. This was at the Axsys Air builder course in Washington.
- Vern Darley - Seeing Van and the RV-3 at the Oshkosh was it
for me plus reading about it in various periodicals. At that
time, tube and fabric planes were still the rage
- Terry Ruprecht - Saw my first RV on my first trip to OSH in
2003. I was blown away by the quality and finish of them. Like
most of The Masses, I previously assumed "homebuilt" aircraft
were built with bubble gum, bailing wire, and old lawnmower
parts. Til that moment at OSH, I never dreamed an amateur-built
aircraft could be so gorgeous. I was so struck, I created a
simple chronological to-do list when I got home ...a) ground
school at the local community college, b) FAA medical, c) flight
training, d) order the first RV sub-kit - once I had my ticket
in hand. Praise the Lord, it all worked out. Been flying my
aluminum sweetheart now for 3 1/2 yrs
- Joe Zuffoletto - I first learned about RV's when I bought my
Mooney Acclaim in September, 2011. I had never heard of or seen
a Vans aircraft before that. The Mooney seller also owned an
RV-8 and he took me for a ride in it. I instantly fell in love
with the 8 and spent the next year and a half trying to find one
that was built right. The effort paid off in May, 2013 when I
found my gorgeous 8 on the other side of the country.
The Mooney seller warned me that if I bought an 8 I'd fly it
more than the Acclaim. He was right!
- Vlad - I started researching kit aircrafts around 2005.
Spent my first Oshkosh looking and calculating. I am glad I
chose Vans. Couldn't imagine how I would build and enjoy flying
- John Goodloe - I saw my first RV at Oshkosh 1980, when I saw
the RV-4 prototype. I thought it was the coolest home built
ever. I still have a copy of 'Kit Planes' magazine from 1980's
where the RV-4 was on the cover. I ordered RV-4 plans (s/n 424?)
and a tail kit in 1982. As they say life got in the way and I
never got to build my RV-4.
Jump ahead 25 years or so and I was finally ready to build, by
then the RV-8 was aviable and it better suited my typical
mission. So after and extended build time with a SLOW build kit,
I finally have my RV. My RV-8 has been flying for just over six
years. I could not ask for a more wonderful airplane!
- Dan Langhout - Around 2005-2006 I was searching for
information on home-made paint booths online. Google search came
up with portions of Sam Buchanan's web site about his RV-6
build. Had never hear of RV's before (the flying kind) and had
never really thought seriously about EAB planes before that.
- Sam Buchanan - I was at a grass strip in 1992 looking at a
Fisher Super Koala because I was about to start building mine. A
little low-wing plane started buzzing the area at a very high
rate of speed and I was told "that is (can't remember the
name...) in his RV-3".
A couple of years later I saw 2-3 RVs at Sun-N-Fun. But it was
in 1997 when I saw my friend Mark's RV-4 going together that the
RV really got my attention. It was obvious the RV was a "real
airplane" as opposed to some scary odd-ball homebuilt. Then
hangar-mate Robin started his RV-8 and I had to join the party
in October 1997 with my RV-6 project.
It has been quite a ride!
RV8 Gas run video ...Ed Soderblom video
Thought I would post this video to take you along on a flight to
go get some fuel at BLI from a private strip called Meadowmist. The
gopro is strapped to my hat in the attempt to put you in the drivers
seat while I run my mouth a bit.
Eagle’s Nest Projects – A busy week at the McKinney Aviation Academy
...Phil Campbell words/pics
The students at McKinney Aviation Academy are having a very busy
week with their Eagle’s Nest Project RV-12!
The McKinney Aviation Academy is comprised of students from all
three McKinney, Texas High Schools – McKinney North High School,
McKinney High School and McKinney Boyd High School
In addition to supplementing the student’s STEM curriculum, Eagle’s
Nest Projects goal is to enhance the students’ pride in their school
and to encourage community involvement.
We all know, general aviation is shrinking. With barbed wire topped
fences, cameras, access controlled gates and no trespassing signs,
for a youngster, getting to the airport can be daunting. Where do
Well at Eagle’s Nest Projects we take the airplane to the kids!
February 4, 2016.
Issue No. 4,045.
Ethan Beswick 9A ...welcome
Being that I am relatively new to VAF and have recently started a
RV-9 project, I thought it might be appropriate that I begin a
thread to document my build progress. I purchased a partially
completed emp. kit towards the end of last year, and I have since
completed work on the H.S., V.S. and I am now in the final stages of
completing the rudder and right elevator. I have found a wealth of
information here, and I am extremely grateful for this site (Thanks
Doug!). Progress will be relatively slow as I plan to complete the
emp. kit, then take a bit of a building hiatus while I attend grad
Some pictures of the beginning stages:
That's all for now, but I look forward to the journey and posting
updates as I go...
Step repair/reinforcement service offered. WD-657-R & L ...Russ
As you know or may not know I build these
steps for Van’s, we have built these from the beginning. I am in no
way interested in pointing the finger of blame at anyone for the
steps that have cracked or broken, not Van’s not myself and not you
guys. This service is offered to try and give a solution for those
that have a problem or anticipate a problem with their step/steps,
After looking at the steps on Van’s airplanes and
repairing/reinforcing a couple of steps a couple of different ways I
have decided to offer the same or very similar reinforcement to what
Van’s has employed on their airplanes.
The price will be $30 per step, $60 for a set. The step can be new
or it can be used and cracked, even broken off so long as you have
The plan is you send in your step/steps (with paint removed) in a
box with a check for payment and a paid return shipping label.
Don’t send it in yet, I need to order the gussets from the laser
cutter first, they are ready to go but I need an idea of the number
to order before we get going. Send me an e-mail
letting me know what you want, right, left or both steps, when we
are ready in a couple of weeks I’ll tell you to start sending them
in, in the order you e-mailed me.
Want your RV-6/6A in Kitplanes?
Status Report: Cowl Mods ...crabandy
I've been gone for a couple days, just so happened I was in a
window seat just forward of the engine. When takeoff power was
applied fog/vapor was forming around the inboard edge of the inlet
until approximately 60 knts. I'm guessing the engine was sucking air
from behind the lip until airspeed was delivering the correct amount
of air, at that point it was spilling over the sides. Unfortunately
I didn't get my phone out fast enough to take a pic of the
...a bunch of Ed Hicks photos of the RV-14A
Review my panel ideas ...two renderings
February 3, 2016.
Issue No. 4,044.
First rivets!! Guess I'm a builder now ...David Randall of
After a lot of practice on scrap pieces I dove in yesterday and
squeezed my first real rivets. My wife is gonna get sick of me
running around going "look what I made". The kit I bought had the
wings started and am at the point in the instructions where the
tanks are to be done. No way do I want those to be the first major
thing I do on the kit so I'll probably rivet the leading edges
first. These aileron brackets looked simple enough so here ya go.
Team Aerodynamix Light installation ...Anthony Greco pictures
I have received so much information on this site that I wanted to
give back by showing how I cut leading edge lighting into my plane.
When I bought my 6A it had a small dent in the outer portion of the
right leading edge in the second bay. Hangar rash for sure from
something bumping it. The plane had no nav lighting at all- so my
mission was to add nav/strobes and landing/taxi lights.
The Adirondacks ...Vlad pictures
Passed by the Adirondacks the other day.
More on Rob Hickman's 'EFIS Still'
While technically this is not RV related I will try and make a
connection. My micro-brewery is located in our hangar along with my
RV-10 and yes it is using an AF-5600 EFIS to control it. We live on
Dietz Airpark (OR40) just east of Van's and just over a year ago two
of my neighbors Rion and Mary (both RV-4 owners) started brewing
beer. After watching Rion and Mary brew a few batches of IPA in
their shiny new conical fermenter I decided that this looked like
way too much fun. You need to understand that Oregon is the center
of the micro-brewery world and we take our IPA very seriously. After
our Bonanza flying and IPA snob neighbor proclaimed “there has never
been a Homebrew beer that is worth drinking”, my competitive nature
might have taken over. One of my overachieving close friends has a
saying “You don’t want your equipment to be the limiting factor”, so
with all this in mind I set out to brew beer.
[ed. I'm guessing the OP closed this
thread - I know I didn't. I liked it! It had an RV EFIS
in it! Rob, that is way awesome! ;^) dr]
20 years in our RV-4 ...Gary McDaniel video
Red Thunder ...Timothy Wilde pics
Me and my little RV holding our own with CJ’s and Yak’s as part
of the Red Thunder (RPA Formation) team at the Vinton County Airshow.
Our RV's can do everything a CJ/Yak can do (sometimes much better)
for ~1/5 the hourly operating cost...thank you VAN! <g>
February 2, 2016.
Issue No. 4,043.
Hangar/Flying Pics ...Brian
Takeoff configuration effect on takeoff distance ...Nigel Speedy
The other half of my learning how to land my 8 was learning how
the takeoff configuration and technique affected the takeoff
distance. I did an experiment to find out by doing a series of
takeoffs using flap 0, 10, 20 & 40 degrees. For the ground roll I
also used a tail up attitude (approximately 0 deg pitch attitude),
tail low (approximately 5 deg nose up pitch attitude) and tail down
(tailwheel lightly held on the ground to hold the 3 point attitude
of 11 deg nose up). So a matrix of 12 takeoffs overall, which I
measured with a DGPS on runway 24 at California City, L71, in nil
wind at 1540 - 1600 lbs. For each takeoff I adjusted pitch attitude
after liftoff to achieve 1.2 Vs for the particular flap
configuration at 50' AGL. This resulted in 72 KIAS for 0 deg flap to
as low as 60 KIAS for 40 deg flap. Each takeoff started with mixture
rich, prop full fine with the aircraft held stationary on the brakes
until throttle was fully forward. There was only one attempt at each
configuration so there is no statistical relevance. I've made no
attempt to correct for runway slope, aircraft weight, wind, air
density or power so these results are only representative of my
aircraft on the test day, which is a polite way of saying they are
incorrect everywhere else so don't use them for operational
planning. I was really only after the relative changes not absolute
The results are shown in the graphs below:
Branson Picture Story ...Weasel
[ed. There were 2 words in the entire story...and it still
told a great story! dr]
I'm back in the building game! ...JR in Shreveport
Well, I had previously posted my emp and wings for sale so that I
could finance my CFI/CFII ticket. Well, I couldn't wait till they
sold, so I went ahead and got my CFI/CFII prior to selling them.
I had a deal fall through on my kit, and I'm glad of it! I have
decided to keep my emp/wings, and just buy the fuse in a year or two
when I get my CFI/CFII training paid off. It all worked out just how
I wanted. I was having some pretty serious sellers remorse while I
thought the deal was going to go through!
Bet you never imagined this ...Brantel
Now we can truly say that these modern EFIS systems can do it
Alton Bay Recon ...Vlad
Second recon mission on Alton Bay. Not promising. Runway clearly
marked with yellow cones but not groomed. Got on the radio with Paul
the airport manager (you can see him by the runway) and he said it's
only 8" he wants ice thickness at least a foot to open the airport.
From A.E.R.O. (VAF advertiser)
Stewarts Systems Fish Eyes ...Troy Branch
I know there is a lot of smart people on here and I need some
help. I have painted my last airplane with SS and had no trouble. I
love the paint. It worked perfectly. Now I am using it again and for
some reason my Yellow gets a random fish eye. If I look really close
the paint almost falls in places like the beginning of a fish eye.
Like something is going wrong as it cures. They start to form around
5 minutes after shooting. I have been trying to solve this with the
Stewarts factory for 2 months now.
Overspeeds, and how much is too much
On my 9A I've got an IO360 and Whirlwind RV200 prop with their
Jihostroj governor. Over the last couple days doing taxi testing
prior to first flight I've been doing some progressive higher power
runs, including sudden full-throttles, mostly to see if I could make
the engine stumble or miss or do anything else that would concern me
if it happened in the air. For this purpose I was being
intentionally "ham-handed" with the throttle and throwing it around
rather quickly, much more so than would normally be done in a
non-emergency scenario. As I said, I was trying to make the engine
do something bad.
February 1, 2016.
Issue No. 4,042.
Wallpaper Calendar for February
...courtesy Vlad Karpayev
In (8) different monitor sizes.
Another RV-14 In The Air
"In case people haven't noticed, the
hobbs meter value for flying RV-14's his clicked up one tick to
"3". I guess Mitch is too humble to toot his own horn so i
will blow into it for him. Congrats on a successful first
flight yesterday Mitch. More info on
Van's Facebook Page."
as a function of Vs
Hamburger for 15 minutes ...David Paule
One of the shop tools I use is a timer. Now I know that we all
have our own kinds of timers. This one's mine, a gift from a friend.
Here're the bottom skins clecoed in place. I've trimmed the holes
for the inspection plates. The skins are in place so that I can
locate the holes in the plates at the spar flange, which I somehow
didn't do earlier. Now it's the left wing's turn.
Fixed a Broken Map Link on
The Wx Page
GAMI Spread is now ZERO!!! ...carrollcw
For those who have not seen my other thread about uneven airflow,
I figured I repost a rundown of what has happened to get my GAMI to
I have a new Titan IOX370 running dual EFII ignition and injection
with vertical induction. With the stock setup, I had a GAMI spread
of 1.3! In trying to determine how to reduce the GAMI spread, I
realized (with the help of my neighbor Rusty Crawford) the root
cause of the high spread was uneven airflow between the 1/3
cylinders compared to the 2/4 cylinders. This was determined because
when ROP, 1/3 had the hottest CHT's, but when LOP they were the
coolest (and I verified it was not due to injector imbalance).
status pics ...Carl RV-4 in Sweden
Selfie ...Aero Octaveus
Surprise during taxi testing ...Greg Niehues
I'm only days away from first flight (waiting on current strong
west winds to drop for my north/south runway) so I'm doing some taxi
testing. Life is good - so much so that a good friend of mine wanted
to ride with me and kick the rudders a bit for grins himself. In
doing so we discovered an issue - the right hand copilot brake pedal
was sticking and would not return. After he kicked the pedals around
a bit, the right brake was dragging and quickly got hot. This is not
something I would have caught until who knows when...
This is why we test - because we don't know the things we don't
Great Sacandaga Lake, NY Ice Patrol ...Vlad pics
Carson's speed for RV's ...KRviator
I got bored today and got to thinking what is the best speed to
fly in my -9 for the least amount of fuel used, which is commonly
known as Carson's speed. Fortunately, I fly (or at least, will
very soon fly) an RV-9A, for which CAFE performance data is
readily available, via their APR flight testing.
Painting Update ...Steve Melton
"...right wing, I rotated the plane instead of the booth. it just
RV-14A #140-260 - England
Johannes Woolard and his Sevenoaks, UK blog.
Cabin Creek ...hydroguy2
I didn't land on a lake, but the runway at Cabin Creek (97MT) was
slicker than I expected. Good thing for big rudders, as there was
zero braking available. I could barely stand up when I got out of
Quirkies ...newt and jarhead
January 29, 2016.
Issue No. 4,042.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled
Progress ...Warbo 7A in Canberra, Australia
Been a while since I posted here but I have been making progress
albeit very slowly. I got to the step in the plans instructions that
said, "Congratulations! You've finished the first major sub-assembly
on your new airplane." Figured I should post a pic
DIY Painting Status Report ...Steve Melton
"...left wing, two coats on bottom, three coats on the top. I
picked up a little dirt on the top. for some reason the wing was
hard to paint for me. not sure if it is the orientation of the wing
and crawling on the floor or that I am tired. I am beginning to see
the end of the painting, right wing still to go and a couple stripes
on the rudder. outside air temp = -4C. baking wing at 65F."
First post, hello everyone! ...Mike in Santa Rosa, CA
This is my first post.
I just got word that my deal finally went through, and I'm the new
owner of a 2013 RV-12, with all the bells and whistles.
Only 140 hours on it. PPI is being done now, as soon as I get the
AOK from the PPI, along with answers to a couple questions I had
(how much AVgas or lead has been run-but with only 140 hours total
on the engine/plane I expect a good report), I'll be sending the
remainder of my money and then they are delivering the plane to me!
I have a hangar lined up, we still need to iron out a few things
like who's going to carry the insurance (owner is personally
financing a small amount for 1 year), but in a week or 2, or 3,
depending mainly on weather (it's been raining solid here for a
month in NorCal), as soon as we get a good enough break in the
weather they'll be delivering my new (to me) RV-12 to my home
Milestone! ...Chris Chattin of Boise, ID
We have an engine!
Status Report ...crabandy -7 (and DanH input)
I think the foam strip guided epoxy/flox/filler lip may do the
trick, the lip radius is looking better and I think I can fair it
into the cowl a couple inches back. I think using the foam as a
guide will help to make a more consistent shape around the lip.
Milestone ...AdamB RV-10 in NH
Today I took delivery of my RV-10 emp kit. Looking forward
to getting through the inventory and getting started. And the fun
Gas Run w/Some Button Pushing
.4 hrs VFR flight plan to KSWI for gas ($2.95). Played
around w/Garmin Pilot and built a VFR plan that would have me
steering from runway to runway - always something flat on the nose.
Texas has a lot of runways. Just drove it around with the
heading bug. Used the app to file, activate and close (pretty
easy actually - first time using
.5 hrs IFR flight plan back to KAFW (then VFR to 52F at missed).
No clouds, but good button practice and time in the system.
4.1 RV hours this month. Not much, but productive!
VFR up. (click to enlarge)
IFR back. No tower. 1630Z void time.
KSWI DNI165014 BYP SASIE4 KAFW
Getting steered around to the localizer by approach.
Minimums bug set. Tower in standby. (click to enlarge)
RV-10 + Cloud = thrilled toddler ...IFR work with Rob Kochman
fmi: (including some IFR trips)
List Updated ...January reminder
took a pay cut last year. So this
year, in an effort to hopefully raise more awareness, I'm going to remind
folks about the yearly donation aspect of this website at the end of
each month. Readership in 2015 was up over 10%, but donations were
down 7%. My hunch is that many people don't realize just how few
readers donate. I'll post this reminder, and update
the chart with totals going back nine years, on the last Friday of each
Thank you if you help keep this site going!
January 28, 2016.
Issue No. 4,041.
N4932L Painted ...Dwight Frye
I don't post much but thought I'd share the fantastic work done
by Boss Aircraft Refinishers (aircraftpainting.com) in Salisbury,
NC. I'm a slow builder and got her flying in 2013, then finally got
around to finishing the wheel pants and gear leg fairings so I could
get it painted. The painting took roughly 3 months. BUT, the long
time to complete was all my fault as you'll see from the pictures
My wife Theresa and I dropped it off on October 24, 2015 and picked
it back up yesterday on January 26, 2016. We disassembled everything
the day we dropped it off, but it took two days to put it all back
together again at the end.
Slick Magneto experts - Please help w/question ...Bruce Swayze
I recently pulled the right magneto off my engine, to put it up
for sale. It's a Slick 4370. I see what I thought was an impulse
gear assembly on the front of it. But one gentleman here saw my post
in the classifieds and told me the impulse mag is always the left
one, not the 4370 on the right side. I'm obviously new at this. I
don't know these things. I'm hoping someone can give me more
information. What do I have here? What is this thing? Any part
number or model number?
My main purpose is to try and get some idea of what it's worth, so I
can offer it at a fair price to a potential buyer. But I'm also
wondering if this is useful for our RV's, or better for some other
aircraft. ??? Any information or help would be greatly appreciated.
Here are some pictures:
it appears you have a standard 4730 with some kind of an
adapter. The gear is usually installed directly onto the shaft
You need to keep that, it is part of the engine. The
engines without that adapter suffer from the dreaded "magneto
drive cushions fall into the engine during magneto R&R" issue.
That's not an impulse coupled magneto. Depending on the hours on
it,,,it is pretty much core value only. Maybe $100,,,,$150 at
most. You will get the most out of it on eBay
They were installed on engines with vibration issues mostly
caused by different propellers. They are very expensive new but
I have not sold any used so I don't think it would carry much
extra value. You may check to see if that was why they installed
that adapter assy!
Before and After Pics ...Xkuzme1
I have owned this RV-4 for nearly a year now. When I bought it,
it was all white. I loved the all white, but I needed some way to
spruce it up a bit. Id love to see what you all think. I used 3M
vinyl to do it
Quirky ...mark in Sydney, Australia
The coal train between Leigh Creek and Port Augusta derailed near
Parachilna in 2011.
500' AGL flyby at a safe distance: The train has broken into several
I only did one pass. A TV news chopper was inbound, we really didn't
need to be in each others' way.
Updates ...crabandy pics
DanH sent this to me in a separate email, it illustrated the
point nicely for myself. I need to lower the AOA of the inlet lip.
Panel Feedback Requested ...Chattin35
January 27, 2016.
Issue No. 4,040.
Ray Sage ...Larry Pardue post
Mannie Sage Bemis photo
I just saw this photo for the first time today when a friend
posted it on FB. This is Ray Sage who lived in Las Cruces, NM until
his death in 2014 at the age of 93. He practiced law until his
retirement at the age of 88.
Ray flew P-51s in Europe and as a civilian was a long time flight
instructor. Ray's daughter's post on FB has the following quote.
"Daddy, a former P-51 pilot, WW2 vet, and independent flight
instructor, said the RV-6 flew more like the P-51 than any other
plane he ever flew. It was the last time he would ever man a
I knew that I enjoyed that day very much but never thought about the
fact that that was the last flight this great man made from this
RV-6 N441LP Flying
After 4+ years and 2000 hours I am declaring the TARDIS complete!
[ed. Tally of our lunch table PIC models.
We didn't count Tony's.
He started with "J-2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7...". Not enough paper.
Australian Adventure ...Episode 1 is online (haydnc)
1. I am a bit of an electric dunce so bear with me. Is there
anyway to test the wiring of the landing, position and strobe lights
before buttoning everything up.
2. I have a few mis-drilled holes and would like to fill them.
Reading the forums it is clear that bondo is to be avoided so does
anyone have a any suggestions. I have a West marine store very close
by, but any suggestions would be appreciated
A: Are they rivet sized holes? If so, pop a rivet in
them. If there is a way to dimple it and put a flush river in
the hole that is best, then maybe a bit of filler to conceal it
A: I did one of these on the empennage and called the
factory. They said to fill with JB Weld and build on! Good luck
with the repair.
A: I tested mine with a couple alligator clips and the
spare 12v battery from my cordless drill. Everything worked just
14 Years and Counting ...proof of fun
I had the cowl off the RV-6 to tighten the alternator belt, and
while putting stuff back on took a pic of where the landing gear
pokes out of the fuse. Signs of roughly a decade and a half of
RV enjoyment. Light scratches and smudges - I like the patina.
30th Year Anniversary Celebration of the RV-6/6A Design Update
MANY CONGRATS to ART WOODS of Albuquerque who is #200 to sign up
for our HUGE Celebration of the RV-6/6A design at AirVenture
Gerry Julian was #100!
If you are planning on flying into Oshkosh this year and have not
yet signed up, please take a moment to register your RV...ANY RV
MODEL at www.eaa.org/RV6
I'm hoping to set a record for RVs in attendance so I plan to see
you ALL at AirVenture 2016! Rosie
PS: Keep poundin' them rivets because it's ALL WORTH IT!!!!.
Quirkies ...John RV-8 entries
Someone earlier asked about the "LUECKE" I've flown over it
hundreds of times but this picture is from Google. The airport in
the lower center of the picture is 84R, just to give you some scale
of the size of the letters in LUECKE. Another quirky thing is
the Oklahoma sand trap / Texas putting green. It is located on
about a 2nm final to runway 31R at the DFW International airport.
Again the picture is from Google as I'm usually occupied with other
duties when I fly over it.
RV-12 ADS-B Update ...from the mothership
January 26, 2016.
Issue No. 4,039.
Snowbound Update ...Vlad
Engine quit on stall practice
Today, I performed some acro, and a stall. After reducing to idle
speed and have my speed drained at about 53 kt engine quit, a few
seconds later a restared with no issues, so on ground idle is about
700RPM pump on and off does not affect idle. Very weird.
Guilherme Plassmann (Brazil)
I had a similar issue and eventually traced it down to a section
of aluminum fuel line that went between my gascolator and the
fuel flow meter. Once I insulated the fuel line, the problem
Lightweight props also play a role. Mine idles at 480-500 but I
have electronic ignition and associated timing changes, engine
runs fine during stalls but quits during hammerheads
I had a plane years ago that would freeze over incredibly fast
without carb heat under the right conditions after idling down
in a glide
DIY Paint Update ...Steve Melton pics
Low Fuel Pressure Update ...Kyle Boatright RV-6
I was down for a weekend due to the plague or some other malady,
but got to take another pass at the problem last weekend when a
buddy and I checked all electrical connections, tightened all fuel
connections, and eyeballed the entire fuel system. We also scratched
our heads a bit. I performed a run-up and no problems were noted. On
that note, I went flying and saw no problems during a 15 minute
This weekend, I repeated the test flight. Upon arriving at altitude,
and after turning off the electric fuel pump, the fuel pressure (as
measured by the GRT EIS4000) dropped again. It fell to a negative
value of between -0.3 and -0.7 PSI. The engine continued to run fine
in that condition for the duration of the flight - about 30 minutes.
I suspect I have an intermittent measurement problem. Funny enough,
if you look at GRT's online troubleshooting guide, it mentions that
their VDO senders often fail and become erratic at 200-500 hours,
particularly on carbureted engines. On the other hand, the
troubleshooting guide did mention that the erratic pressure tends to
happen on the high side, rather than the low indicated pressure I
So, I guess I'll order a new sender from GRT and see if that
resolves the problem Unless one of you has a better idea. If you do,
I'd appreciate hearing it..
FINALLY! She's Painted!!! ...Terry Ruprecht 9A pics
Quirky Entry ...Vlad
Quirky Entry ...n5lp
January 25, 2016.
Issue No. 4,038.
Inflight Pic ...Jim Stricker
Flying home after buying RV-12 SN120058 from original builder
with 50TT. You can't see the smile...<g>
cost of poor gust lock ...rstisser
We are in Venice for the winter with the RV6A tied down instead
of at home in the hanger. Some rough weather came thru last weekend
and now I have work to do. The wire that I use as a rudder lock came
out and allowed the rudder to swing and hit the edge of the
elevator. It made about a 2 inch gash in the middle of the rudder
and made the trailing edge a little crooked. Now hoping to be able
to patch the hole well enough to get back to Illinois. A new rudder
is a must, but hard to do here. Better gust locks are also in the
VAF Ski trip ...LAMPSguy pics
2016, 3rd annual ski trip.
RV-8 Winter Flight Along the Colorado Front Range ...colojo pics
Today we have perfect weather in Denver before rain and snow move
in tomorrow, so I took advantage of the opportunity to fly my RV-8
down to Colorado Springs and back.
Another RV-10 is conceived ...rjhecker
Starting Jan 1st, the adventure of building a 10 began. I have been
doing ALOT of reading like most of the new builders do and just want
to put it out to the world that if your into reading and watching
new guys pound rivets and have all sorts of questions please
subscribe to the blog and follow along. And as always, advise is
greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance -Robert
I'm finally in the club! ...jeffkersey pics
I have been admiring these airplanes and looking for one to
purchase for over a year now. Tuesday, I finally purchased a flying
RV7A and flew it from North Carolina back home to Tennessee.
Exciting stuff. After 12 years of flying, this is my first airplane
purchase. I have been lurking on this site and am blown away by the
community of talented and generous people flying Van's aircraft and
sharing knowledge and ideas. Thanks to all who contribute here. I am
sure I all be spending lots more time here in the years to come. All
the best to everyone in 2016.
Long time lurker finally a new owner ...merlin3
Hello everyone, been a lurker on the forums for a while now and
have been reading everything I can. Finally started looking for an
rv4 pretty seriously a few montha ago. Well as of a week and a half
ago i am a proud new owner of a rv4. Its the first plane I've ever
owned and pretty excited to put a lot of hours on it this summer.
Heres a couple pics.
RV-8 Mid-Fuselage panels ...cdeerinck
Maybe I'm losing my mind, maybe not. Maybe some of you can help
me decide. Certainly, I might be losing some of my memory.
Picture #1, showing my rear throttle quadrant. The plate pointed to
by the yellow arrows: Is this a Vans part, or did I custom build it?
I can't find it on the plans, but I can't remember making it! It
looks factory, so did I just do a good job?
From the mothership
January 22, 2016.
Issue No. 4,037.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled weekend.
It's about the journeys--why we traded RVs ...Guy Prevost
I had a unique experience yesterday. I watched my RV-8a, better
known in the family as Jane Plane, take off without me in the front
seat. She’s headed east to her new home in a heated hangar next to a
private paved runway. This marks the first time in her entire
existence she’s flown without me as PIC. 2500 wonderful hours of
building, 550 glorious hours of flight time. And now she’s someone
else’s airplane. I’m a little sad to see her go, but not as sad as
you might think. These machines are about the memories they make and
the journeys they enable. We're on a pretty amazing journey right
Don ...Dean Eiland RV-9
guess I haven’t thought about giving rides much. I don’t give many
rides. However I did give my father-in-law a ride last week.
My 78 year old father-in-law, Don, lives in Ohio and I live in
Texas. He drives down and visits us in Texas about once a year. I
really hadn’t thought about it much but he was involved in my
building an RV since the beginning. In 2009, when I decided to buy a
kit, he drove with me 3,333 miles from Dallas to 500 miles north of
Toronto and back in four days to pick up an RV-9 kit. (Insanity and
obsessions come in all forms. Don’t judge.) I couldn’t have bought
that kit without him.
Since he visits once a year, or so, he has seen my plane in various
stage of the build process. He was visiting last week and I
mentioned taking a flight. He jumped on the chance to fly in my
plane, "like a chicken on a June bug". We went up for about 1.5
hours last week and just puttered around the north Texas, Southern
Oklahoma area. Nice day and nice flight. Didn’t give it much
He left last Sunday and a few days later he called my wife from
Florida and asked if I’d text a picture I took of him and my plane
to a friend of his.
I really didn’t think much about the flight until your article.
Thanks again Dave. I think the flight meant a lot to Don and again I
hadn’t really given it much thought. I needed to.
The Perfect Workshop ...Bob's take
I just finished building a workshop for my project. I had just
enough room that I could make the building just large enough to put
the wings on sans tips, and do the control rigging/checkout and the
fuel connections. I have time, but eventually I'm going to need to
find a new home for some things if I actually want to do that
I'm not sure how building codes work over there or what construction
methods are popular, but here are a few things I did/wish I did:
First, I would have subbed out a little more of the work. Just
prepping for the foundation pour took me three months, and framing
took three or four more, because I was doing all of the work myself
up to that point, with no helpers. The project would have gone
faster and made for much less irritation with the wife had I just
subbed most of it out. As it was, had I not paid someone to do the
roof, siding, and drywall, I'd still be working on it. I learned a
whole lot about construction and building codes, though, and I would
still do the wiring myself.
From the 'Quirky' Things Seen From the Air Thread ...things to
show your passengers.
Heart shaped house (Texas panhandle)
Texas Shaped Pool (from the 'Quirky' thread) ...
Aerodynamics and streamlining computations
Q: So, if I have a cylinder of length L and diameter D sticking
out into an airstream at, say 210 Knots, what is the most effective
way to streamline it?
A streamlined bubble (half teardrop) is convenient, but it also has
a lot of skin drag. What is the break-even point? At what size does
the blister have the same drag as the cylinder?
A streamlined mast (airfoil cross section) of length L (think pitot
mast) also has a drag coefficient. Same question as above.
We all hate the little things that stick out.... Fuel drains, vents
and so on. Is it better to leave them alone or to fabricate
streamlined fairings for them? I know what the gut feeling is, but
is it supported by science?
RV-4 Status ...Carl in Sweden
Making progress, just have to connect some wires then paint and
get the seats done and I guess some paperwork:-).
Creeping Along ...Bill Boyd
Half the workshop floor was epoxied yesterday with the Rustoleum
product from Lowes. Results were okay (we didn't grind the concrete
first) but the odor in the house was awful the entire day. I really
anticipated more airspace isolation between shop space and living
space upstairs with the mini-split HVAC and the fully finished walls
and ceiling. Instead it was like the painters had applied the epoxy
in the living room - the volatiles in that stuff are just like spray
paint - xylene, toluene, with a hint of coffee, leather and spice.
Which reminds me, I suspect the shop is not going to double well as
a cigar lounge as far a the upstairs occupants are concerned.
Here's the 10 on the half that just got painted. It's in the way,
but they are working around it best they can.
RV-10 Horz Stab
Q: Do I need to tear it open?
MIL SPEC actually allows for using a flush rivet set on the
manufactured head of AN470 rivets and a cupped set to be used on the
shop head side. There are specific requirements that are detailed in
It is not possible just from photos to tell whether a lot of these
rivets meet the requirements but they might. Read through the
document and then do some measuring. Pay particular attention to the
3.3.3 Driving procedure Section. Maybe you would only need to
replace a few
I Might Still Be Building if I Hadn't Met Jay
was thinking yesterday about how our RV-6 got to the first flight
finish line. I built at the house for 5.5 years (66 months)
while working two jobs, raising a family and all the other stuff you
do while you still have energy in your mid 30's. Mind you this
was an 'old school' kit where you drilled every hole in the fuse and
hammered the spar webs together with a baby sledge / C-tool on the
garage floor (it chewed out a little spot in the slab). 5.5
years at my house to get it to the point that required a completely
different skill set. I came to the conclusion that in my
situation it would take another three years to finish, so I took it
over to Jay Pratt's
for help with the engine, avionics, fiberglass and rigging. It
was ready to fly in 5 1/2 months. I'd drive over there after
work a few times a week and work with Jay until 10pm. Would I
do it again? Absolutely. Most of my memories from there
involve laughter, and I learned a lot. I consider Jay a good,
GOOD friend now.
Here's one example regarding how it's set up. He doesn't
change drill bits. Instead, he has a drill for each bit, and
multiple air lines, because that makes things go faster. The
whole shop is optimized for speed. It works.
Months and percentages...
Red arrow points to my RV-6 at Jay's in 2002.
January 21, 2016.
Issue No. 4,036.
"Windrunner" and RV-7 "Windrider" in form ...pics
New spars in progress ...Steve Smith
If you peek once in a while on the HP-24 project page, you have
seen us laying up composite skins for new tapered wings for
my RV-8 and Bob Mills Rocket-6.
8th Annual Ice Cream Social, Inyokern, CA
All, just a quick post so you can put the event on your caledar
if you are the planing type. I will post more particulars later.
Date is March 12th. Hope to see you there.
This year will be a lttle different (we learn every year). I will
have a few folks taking care of the ice cream and house keeping
required so my wife and i can spend more time with people visiting.
My family will also be traveling from all over the country to come
see all the RVs.
We had a tremendous turn out last year. I hope it is as good this
Crabandy Status Report in Pics
David Paule RV-3B Status Report
Back when I was laying out the bottom skins, I'd forgotten that
Van's had included pre-punched inspection hatches for the bottom of
the wing. Oops.
I went ahead and made my own, and of course the holes in the backing
ring were incompatible with the pre-punched ones. Mine were slightly
different sizes, too. Imagine that - Maybe 20 pre-punched parts in
the entire airframe and I didn't use four of them.....
I left the cut-outs in the bottom skins until the deburring/dimpling
stage. The cut-outs are now complete and I had to match the holes in
the hatches to the holes in the spar. Yeah, I'd gone ahead and made
holes in the spar for the hatch without including the hatches,
another sequence error.
This next part I figured out before riveting the skins on. What I
did was cleco the skins on the wing, cleco the hatch back-up rings
in place, and screw the hatches on. Of course then the wing was
covered up and I couldn't back-drill through the spar. A bit of tape
held the hatches in place and the leading edge, attached, gave me a
solid fore-aft reference, and with the skins removed, I could easily
back-drill through the spar to the hatches.
Here they are drilled and clecoed.
Tailwind Tuesday - Monday also ...Rick A
Since Doug did his front page showing the great tailwinds on
Tuesday, I had to mention my flight on Monday.
I flew the RV-12 I built to it's new owner in Florida on Monday.
During the first leg, I flew at 7500 and had 10 - 20 kt tailwind.
On the second leg & third legs, I went up to 9500 and had a 40+ kt
tailwind. I was making 160 - 165 kts over the ground! Not bad for a
115 Kt airplane. (I was showing 110 indicated & 122 true airspeed).
Quirky Things Seen From The Air in Your RV
Enormous TFR Over The East Coast ...Dynon
To close the book on this:
The FAA has investigated and found they did improperly uplink a
"SPECIAL NOTICE" NOTAM as a TFR. Dynon's system received a TFR over
ADS-B with no way to tell it was anything but. On top of this, there
was an error in the transmitted data with one of the points of the
outline being over near Africa instead of in Florida. This caused
different mapping systems to draw it differently (including not
drawing it at all).
The error was only in ADS-B uplinks. Any device that got it's data
any off the internet would not have seen this or if you called
Flight Service they would not have had it as a TFR either.
One element that made this situation more obvious on SkyView than
other systems is that our default settings shade the inside of TFR's
red to make it clear you are inside a TFR. SkyView does have a TFR
opacity adjustment in the map settings. If you prefer to only see
outlines of TFRs and not have the interior shaded, you can adjust
this to zero at any time. The outlines of the TFR will remain in
We're sorry that this caused confusion among our customers, but in
reviewing what happened here, there is no way for Dynon to protect
against showing a TFR like this when ADS-B tells us it's there.
--Ian @ Dynon
P.S. Thanks to everyone that helped us and the FAA identify and get
to the root cause of this issue. With your datalogs, we were able to
give the FAA the exact data they had sent over ADS-B and quickly
demonstrate that the issue was in the raw ADS-B data.
DIY Painting Update ...Steve Melton
Rich Meske) Take advantage of the Winter and plan to add one of our
interior packages to your aircraft. We are offering interiors for
models RV-6, RV-7, and RV-9. Other aircraft are possible as well.
Choose your own materials and we will make your seats, armrests, and
stick boots. The seats feature an inflatable lumbar support. An
optional EZ-Step can be incorporated in the seat. It is a convenient
place for a person to put their foot upon entering the aircraft. See
this feature along with our newest products at
January 20, 2016.
Issue No. 4,035.
The value of the RV Community ...Dgamble RV-12
I have given a lot of people rides in both my RV-6 and now in my
RV-12, and I always enjoy it as least as much as they do. Having
been blessed with owning a Van's RV for what, nine or ten years now,
it's easy to forget what wonderful little airplanes they are. Just
as humans can get used to just about anything, there is a similar
risk of getting so used to things that they start to be taken for
granted - flying with people that have never been in a small plane
before, or pilots that have never experienced the physical freedom
of a nimble little sport plane, tends to remind the owner of what a
special privilege it is to have one of these things.
I have to be honest, though: I don't remember everyone I've given a
ride to, but they sure remember me! There's one guy at the airport
that has had to remind me twice now that he took a ride with me. And
now I realize that I've forgotten his name. Again.
On the other hand, there are some that are very memorable. There was
a 50-something guy that had never flown in an airplane of any type,
despite a life-long interest. And, or course, many of the very
pretty young women are easily recalled.
And then there was Phil.
Phil called me one day last May to introduce himself as a fellow
RV-12 builder in search of a ride. Naturally I told him that I'd be
happy to give him one, and all he had to do was let me know when he
wanted to come to the airport. There was a pause.... then he
somewhat reluctantly told me that doing so would be a three hour
round trip. "No problem," I told him, "I'll fly out to Zanesville
and you can meet me there." That's less than a half hour trip in the
12, so it was no big deal at all.
The ride was memorable mostly because of how ebullient he was. I've
seen that in younger people, and sometimes in 50-somethings as
mentioned above, but seldom in the late-60s to 70-something group.
That's not to say that they don't enjoy or appreciate it, because
they do, but this guy was almost giddy. When we landed, we went
though the obligatory "can I give you same gas money" dance, wherein
they offer a couple of times and I respectfully decline.
Besides the fact that accepting money flies right in the face of FAA
regulations, I really don't think it's necessary. I enjoy the
flying, and the hourly costs of flying an RV-12 are so low that my
out-of-pocket cost is nearly insignificant. And besides, I'm really
just re-paying the debts incurred from when it was I that was asking
for/receiving rides in RVs.
It's really just part and parcel with the mores of the RV Community.
What I have failed to consider is that what I consider to be a small
favor may very well be of a far higher worth to the recipient of my
Obviously Phil had been one of those. When I got back to home base
and picked up my phone to close my domestic flight plan (the text I
send home to tell my spouse that I had cheated fate once again), I
had a text from Phil telling me to make sure to look over to the
passenger side - he had left something in the plane.
I did so, and found two wadded up $50 bills.
I had to do something with them, so one of them now rides in the map
box, just waiting for the next time I find myself out somewhere and
short of cash. The other rides in the glove box of my car, awaiting
the same type of situation.
Late last November I received a message from Phil's wife telling me
that he had passed away.
She told me that she thought I would want to know how much that ride
had meant to Phil.
I took a day to absorb that, then remembered that I had taken a
couple of pictures of him during the flight, which I try to do with
everyone that rides with me. I was able to dig those out of my
picture repository and send the better of the two to her, for which
she was very grateful.
Then I had a thought.
I never know how to approach these things, so I cautiously composed
another message to her that went something like "I apologize if this
is inappropriate, but if you need help selling the kit, please let
me know and I'll be happy to assist."
She took me up on the offer this weekend, so I drove out to the very
nice heated garage where he had been building the plane to assess
the situation. As it turns out, it's in extremely good condition,
very well organized, and should be very easy to sell. In fact, I may
have already sold it.
I also suggested that she would have no trouble selling the
specialty tools as well. As I was winnowing them out from the more
day-to-day tools, I came across one that I need myself, so I told
her I would be making an offer on it.
When I had all of the airplane parts separated out from lawnmower
parts and the like, I asked her how much she wanted for the tool,
based on the price I found on Aircraft Spruce.
She paused, clearly thinking it through, then finally said, "Well, I
guess I need to know what your fee is going to be first."
I have to confess to being momentarily stunned by the question; I
can't imagine anyone in the RV community would even consider
charging a fee for what I had done for her.
I told her that there would be no fee - in fact, it was a nice
opportunity to use the knowledge that I spent three years building,
only to never need again. Happy to do it!
She thought for a few minutes, then said "How about $100 for the
Perfect! I had half of it right there in the car, and the other half
sitting in the map box of the plane!!
Oh, and she also asked if I had known he was ill at the time we went
flying together. I had not, but as it was cancer, he probably did.
He very likely knew that our shared flight would be the only flight
he would ever have in an RV-12 - I'm tearing up just writing this.
Now I better understand the worth people may be putting on those
rides that I consider to be just another chance to fly my airplane.
It can be quite high.
Grove City, OH
RV4 with Garmin Panel ...Walt
Paint Update ...Steve
to the RV Hotel List
Maryland - Glen Burnie/Baltimore/Annapolis - Mike Messer -
I have two spare rooms when my kids are not in town (48 weeks of the
year) and can comfortably accommodate up to four (full size bed and
bunk bed). Centrally located (20 min drive) to KMTN (Martin State),
KANP (Lee Annapolis), and KFME (Tipton) and 5 miles from BWI.
Depending on the day/time, I can pick you up. Pool (June-August) and
gym facilities in the complex. No smoking and sorry no pets.
Texas Tailwind Tuesday
Gary Platner (RV-8) sent me this pic. 20"MP, 2380rpm and
2,700'. Pretty dang good for less than 7gph.
The winds at 3,000' at the time of this photo.
Gary was flying northeast in the yellow part <g>.
Where has your cap
...and what charity did you give to? The one below went to
The 'Acts of Charity' section of the forums
January 19, 2016.
Issue No. 4,034.
RV-8R second test flight prelim data ...radial RV-8
We had a successful and event free test flight number two
today!!! Prelim numbers show a cruise speed of 155mph at 23" of mp
and 3000 engine rpm. This is 15 mph faster than my initial design
goal. This is also only 15 mph slower then my fathers 200hp RV-8.
These speeds would not have been possible without the use of the GT
electric prop. After shutdown I laser checked the cylinder head
temps. None of them were over 200f. The baffling is doing its job
quite well! Time to de cowl and do a visual inspection and filter
check. Video is posted below.
Painting ...Steve Melton update and many pics
"...pulled the n-numbers at four hours after paint. paint is very
soft and not tape free. called in the reinforcements to pull paint
mask. they had fun. the numbers came off well. Amanda dug into the
"5" somewhat with the razor on the right hand side and she told me
so, I said it was OK, no worries. she did better on the remainder.
the memories of the help are worth it. I had some runs on the cowl.
this is how to turn a nice white cowl to blue runs. one day I may
understand how to paint but with the help at the end of the day it
was a good day. outside air temp -12C when we pulled the n-number
Update on N914VA...east coast RV-14A demonstrator
(Mitch Lock) "It's gonna be a little while before I can
give demos. Being certificated under Experimental R&D which is the
precursor to Market Survey/Crew Training like all of Van's factory
airplanes, I have a 50 hour phase one flight test, plus a paint
appointment next month. Should be up and working by mid March."
The RV Hotel
Update ...21 pages of places to stay for free
We are about 10 miles from the airport (CYSQ) and have a guest cabin
that will sleep 2-3. Not far off the Alcan route. Plenty of parking
at the airport. Can pick you up at the airport. We’re typically in
residence from late May through mid-September. Lots of great stuff
to do here. Best contact is email (arehart 'at' unr 'dot' edu) as we
don’t have a phone there.
Greg & Julia Arehart
We have a hangar at RTS, home of the Reno Air Races. Sometimes can
squeeze in another RV, or it is empty parts of the summer when we
are traveling. We have a spare bedroom with double bed and can
sometimes lend a vehicle if needed. Best contact is email (arehart
'at' unr 'dot' edu).
Greg & Julia Arehart
Update on 'Morning Sickness'
Well, it looks like Mike was right all along
I took the lower cowl off and found the mixture arm was about 1/4"
or so off its stop. I then found I could move it that bit extra
using the cockpit control. There were witness marks on the cowl - on
the angle of the air intake section. A quick "re-profiling" with the
Dremel and all now works as it should.
I have another couple of jobs to do before rolling her out and
running the engine but I think the problem is solved. Thanks guys!
(later)......Just to close the thread - started up today and back to
its normal, sweet self. I just wish all snags were so easy to fix.
Well, easy when you have thousands of experts on VAF!
Thanks again, guys.
For Those Making Their Own Seats...
v3.0 of Vac's Training Syllabus is Online
Version 3.0 Summary of Changes
-Corrected FAR Flight Review reference
-Changed assumed weight for parachutes for the purpose of computing
weight and balance to actual weight
-Scrubbed all Knot/MPH references throughout all Parts and adopted
the following convention: “Van’s Aircraft provides RV-type airspeed
performance data and limitations using MPH. In accordance with
current practice, this guide presents airspeed in knots and MPH
(generally presented in a KTS/MPH format). If a speed is a factory
specified limitation, it is converted from MPH to knots and rounded
to the closest appropriate knot. In some cases when converting from
MPH to knots, a small interpolation is made to produce an easy to
reference “round” number ending in zero or five if it does not
exceed an airspeed limitation. Due to variation between individual
aircraft, calibrated airspeed is utilized in lieu of indicated
airspeed. Indicated airspeed for a specific RV-type can only be
determined through flight test.”
-Revised figures and some discussion in RV-type aerodynamics
-Edited bounced landing ROT of page 434. Added ROT regarding
retracting flaps abruptly (manual flaps) on conventional gear types
during wheel landing.
-Edited LANDING section in PART 2. Added additional power-control
discussion and established “no later than” point for stabilized
final approach criteria.
-Added RV-3B weight and balance limits to Table 1-1. Limits obtained
from Van’s tech support, including note regarding wing fuel weight
inclusion in maximum allowable aerobatic gross weight.
-Added knots to Tables 2-1 and 2-2: VNE TAS quick reference data.
-Added RV-3B data to Table 2-4. Revised notes.
-Added RV-3B data to Table 2-5. Re-ordered notes.
-Added RV-3B data to Table 2-6. Added suggested asymmetric G limits
(asymmetric G limits are not specified for RV-types by Van’s).
Revised and re-ordered notes.
-Added RV-3B data to Table 3-2. Only VFE provided for RV-3 is 100
MPH/95 KTS. Note: No factory guidance available stating VFE for
half-flaps or less is 10 MPH higher as is available for other
-Added RV-3B data to Table 3-7. Revised and re-ordered notes.
-Revised note 1 in table 2-3/3-8.
-Revised and added to Appendix D: RV Handling Rules of Thumb
January 18, 2016.
Issue No. 4,033.
to air pic ...Guilherme Plassmann (Brazil)
9A Status Report ...Tom Argentieri pics
Finally had some time after the Holidays to Sikaflex in the aft
window on my tip-up canopy. Lots of clamps, but the mess was
Status Report ...Gil Alexander 6A
Actual progress. Wings on with the real, final bolts.
Trigger Happy ...Charlie Derk RV-10
I got a little trigger happy with my drill and step bit. What was
supposed to be a 5/8" hole is now a little less than 3/4". This is
on my RV10 elevator.
What is the best way to "fix" something like this? New spar? New
(larger) bushing? Silicone? VHB?
Paint Update ...Steve Melton pics
"...cowling paint line. I do not think where the line is matters,
I was only going for symmetry.
I pulled a tape line for the bottom blue across the lower cowl for
each side half way and met close to the middle. I picked the one I
liked best and made a template and duplicated the other side. mark
the template with a pencil and cut the line. the trick is to find
the cowl center with the template. the trial and error method worked
for me on the 5th measurement. very little wasted tape with this
method. this 1/4 inch tape in the picture is the negative. I latter
swept a 1/2 inch blue tape around the entire cowl as one piece to
match the 1/4 inch one. the wider tape gave a smoother line and was
still able to contour..."
Welcome Heartland Machine & Mfg.
the Previous Day's News section) "Heartland Machine
& Mfg is offering their John's Rotisserie Kit to the VAF community
along with other unique products related to building EXP aircraft.
This rotisserie kit provides builders with the key components needed
to quickly build their own rotisserie using two pieces of common
lumber and hardware. See pictures and a video at
January 15, 2016.
Issue No. 4,032.
Wishing you and yours a happy,
safe and RV-filled weekend.
N914VA Ready to Fly! ...RumbaChad
Van's east coast RV-14A demonstrator received her airworthiness
certificate Wednesday evening from DAR David Schober.
Congratulations to Mitch for all his hard work (and patience)!
The RV-14/14A Forum
Intermittent Fuel Pressure Problem
I own a RV7A with an IO-360, fixed pitch prop. with a Dynon
SkyView that I bought from the builder and have been having an
annoying fuel pressure issue since I bought it. At WOT during
takeoff and in a climb with the electric fuel pump on, fuel pressure
seems fine (30-35psi) If I shut electric fuel pump off I sometimes
get a drop in my fuel pressure and an audio "low fuel pressure"
warning from the SkyView. Drops to about 12-14psi. This doesn't
happen all the time. When this first happened, I thought it was the
mechanical pump, so I replaced it with a new one and checked my
filters. That didn’t solve the problem. Engine always runs strong
and I haven't had any issues. A week ago, after preheating the
engine with a red dragon heater, starting and waiting for oil temps
to rise above 100 (OAT was 25F) I performed a run up and I was
getting a high fuel pressure warning. I believe it was around 40-45+
PSI. without electric fuel pump on. I waited a while to observe
engine performance. All seemed well. I decided to take off and stay
in the pattern. After engine warmed to operating temps all seemed
fine, fuel pressure came back to normal and I had an uneventful 2
My questions to you all, is: Since I already replaced the mechanical
fuel pump, what should I check next? Does temperature effect
anything? Why was I getting high fuel pressure in cold weather and
low in regular temps? Is it possible my fuel lines are effected by
different temperatures? Is it possible it is just a bad sensor?
Also, when I turn on my electric fuel pump, according to the SkyView
fuel flow goes up a bit. Is this common?
Eagle's Nest Projects - Central High School (WI) Banquet honoring
One Lonely Neglected RV at Leadville Colorado ...turbo :^)
Took a drive thru the airport yesterday while being out here
enjoying the cool wx. The airport guy said it flew twice last
summer. What a shame. The airport is looking great though.
I'm finally satisfied with the new shape of the cowling, I think.
I bought a gallon of auto body filler to do the final shaping mostly
because I could spread it and be sanding in 25 minutes, it was also
cheaper but I missed the workability of the west systems. I did add
some West Systems and flox immediately aft of the inlet rings. All
the foam, filler etc is getting removed after the glass is on and
My reference lines have mostly been sanded out, but they helped me
keep things uniform as far as I can tell.
January 14, 2016.
Issue No. 4,031.
I was offered a ride in Sid
Mayeux's RV-7A 'Kellie Girl' today at the cave and was happy to go.
Beautiful plane that flew exactly as advertised. Sid's request was
for me to show him my usual spots for seeing deer. "I have the
aircraft." During the flight Monk joined up for a bit, and I got
this pic while Sid flew. The Wx is pretty good around here
right now, and the skies are busy with RVs. Good times...
I have an IO-540 fitted to my -10 and have been having some minor
issues first flight of the day.
Everything was fine until I was away from home for about 6 weeks so
decided to install desiccator plugs. The problem started after I
refitted the normal plugs although I have difficulty believing it
has anything to do with that - just coincidence.
On the first flight, the engine starts fine but then starts to
stumble. I don't believe it is an ignition fault as it dies and then
recovers if I give it a bit of throttle. It's almost like a vapor
lock but can't be. Putting the electric pump on makes no difference.
There is no evidence of any water in the system. I also do not
believe it is the traditional "Morning Sickness" of a sticky valve -
the engine is only 25 hours old and it is definitely like a weak cut
rather than a misfire. By the time I have done the engine run-up all
is well. Second flight of the day, no problem.
The first time it happened, I put it down to the engine having sat
there fore 6 weeks but it occurred again the next day, although not
as bad. I haven't flown since as I am away and the engine is again
inhibited. I am hoping to fly again in the next few days, so any
- doesn't feel like an ignition problem
- doesn't feel like a sticky valve
- can't be the EDP as the electric pump ON makes no difference
- can't be vapor lock as the engine is cold
That leaves water. The drains are clear but I suppose it could be
collecting somewhere else. The aircraft is kept in an unheated
hangar so could it be condensation in the fuel? This is the first
winter the aircraft has been finished and flying.
More than irritating as the engine had been running absolutely
sweetly! Any thoughts appreciated.
One less naked plane ...David Nelson
After flying naked (the plane, not me) for just over four years,
she's finally got paint!
Rest in Peace Mr. Tommy Holland (RV-6A)
[ed. Mr. Holland passed away a few days ago, and David Jones
sent me the following article
that was written three or so years ago. Reading this article
will be time well spent.
Status Report ...Aero Octaveus
Well. Finally reached a mile stone for the project. Wings are
mounted on the wing stand and ready to rock.
New from Dynon- SkyView 14.0 Released & SV-GPS-2020 Shipping
We're excited to share two pieces of news. First, we are now
shipping our 2020-compliant ADS-B Out position source - the
SV-GPS-2020 GPS Receiver. We've also just released SkyView System
Software version 14. In addition to support for the SV-GPS-2020,
SkyView v14 includes over 30 new capabilities and improvements.
Dynon Avionics. (more)
Houston Area Builders/Flyers Monthly Lunch
Looks like the last time we did this was back in November at
Carl's, so let's make it Hooks this time around. Let's get some B-52
burgers at the Aviator's Grill this Saturday at 11:30.
I need to talk to you guys and get motivated again, I've been back
from vacation for a couple weeks now and still haven't gotten back
to work yet...
Updated- AcroBox for iOS
January 13, 2016.
Issue No. 4,030.
Might any VAF readers
Jeep Wranglers for a living? In the next few months I need to
turn over the Ford Ranger to my now-old-enough-to-drive son.
I'm looking for a base model no frills that can be cleaned with a
leaf blower. Manual window cranks will be just fine. I don't
enjoy car shopping and would rather deal with a RV builder/owner who is
in the biz than, you know,
vansairforce 'at' gmail 'dot' com if you might be able to
help...and thank you.
Radial powered RV-8R flies!!!! ...video
"I am happy to announce that the RV-8R has flown for the first
time! She was test flown by my father, Mike Kelly at 8:00 am EST.
test conditions 45 F, clear skies, calm winds. Chase plane was a 160
She flew straight and true, and did two circuits over the airport to
a landing. Engine and oil temps remained low. The propeller from GT
performed flawlessly and cycled to maintain 3300 engine rpm. Top
speed achieved was 130 knots. At one point the chase plane said he
was at full throttle and couldn't catch up. These are all very
preliminary numbers and will be verified with more test flying. But
for now I can say that 10 years of painstaking effort have come to
Time to un cowl and inspect. A huge thanks to everyone who made
N789KD's First Passenger
Today My lovely wife/building buddy was the first passenger after
Phase I was completed. As she was my "Kathy the Riveter" when I
couldn't reach both sides, that made her the K in the K&D Aircraft
factory in my backyard.
Nice cool morning with little wind, that made for a smooth
demonstration of our 9A. For someone that isn't into flying she had
a great time enjoying every minute. Jesse Saint was the cameraman,
thanks again for all his help.
Now we'll be doing some traveling
I guess I'll have to revise my profile.
A riddle for you mountaineers ...Vlad (3 pics)
How long will it take to recognize this mountain?
Looking for some input....knowing full well the broad topic at
I am looking at purchasing a 15 year old RV-6. It has a factory new
Lycoming O-360 A4M with 540 TTSN. The drawback here is that the
aircraft has been hangar for 10 years, without a single flight hour
on it (owner grounded for medical).
My natural concern is corrosion. Is there a good way to check for
this without cracking open the case? At this point, I was thinking
of valuing the aircraft with the engine core and getting it
PIREP for the Property Owners at my Airport
Update on David's Wife ...David Domeier
"...At present we are into week 2 of radiation/chemo treatment.
Marge is taking it very well but is tired and growing weaker, she
can walk be it slowly and steps are a problem, can't tell if it is
the tumor or side effects of treatment. They won't take another MRI
for several months to see what's going on. We have a weekly
appointment with Doctor on Wednesdays of this six week session to
We (Marge's oldest son) and I have looked at other prototype
treatments. As our surgeon said after surgery, there are many, he
has tried many, all are experimental. We've decided to stay the
course here for now.
The Duke research is encouraging, 2 persons have had remission but
11 others of the initial 20 have died. The is much to learn about
the polio virus treatment. The trauma of moving Marge to Duke and
live in an apartment would be very stressful for her. At present she
is very comfortable in her home just 12 minutes from treatment. She
is age 74 and also suffers dementia.
Again thanks to all for sharing your prayers and thoughts. It is
people who make life worth living. Airplanes are fun but in the end
it is people who really matter."
January 12, 2016.
Issue No. 4,029.
Polyphosphazenes and BBQ
Meet Patricia. She is a chemistry major at SMU and works in
the lab across the hall from our daughter Audrey. Audrey
invited her out to the airport last weekend to get a ride in 'Flash'.
It was pretty much a brochure-perfect orientation ride.
Cold, smooth air. Good viz. Some deer to look at, and a
bit of formation on Randy's wing. Followed by lunch at the
Hard 8 BBQ. For about 30 minutes there, I think I was actually
what the kids would call 'cool'. Well, maybe 10
Patricia tried to explain over lunch what her lab time is spent
working on (this
stuff). Trying to modify polymers so that, in one
application for example, there is a lower rate of rejection in the
body when implants are used during post-mastectomy reconstructive
Randy Richmond photo.
First Flight VH-MQB ...Michael Brooks 9A (Melbourne, Australia)
I'm pleased to report that VH-MQB (serial number 91939) now does
what it's supposed to do. Father and child are doing well, as
is the test pilot Tony Manning, who did a magnificent job. Thanks to
this great forum and its contributors. Without it I would have been
lost. Apart from a few niggles it was a relatively painless
experience and flies "hands off" straight and level.
RV-8 Status Report ...Martin Leroux
Ever since I received my fuselage kit, I resisted the temptation
to play with parts and build the airplane on cleco just for fun,
then dream and making some airplane noise...Please admit will all do
Now that I work on my fuselage in a rented shop shared with my
father and my uncle, they come almost daily witness the progress on
my aircraft. Last November, they kept asking questions about
aircraft parts, such as "What's this ? Where does it go ? I don't
understand, show me and explain..." Therefore, because of "family
peer pressure", over a period of about two week-end days, I built
the fwd fuse and the mid fuse on clecos. And when they came back,
now they could understand how my RV-8 is built.....And then they
started bringing friends to show the airplane in the garage
When they came back a few days later, they were disappointed to see
the aircraft disassembled..."Hey dude, I have to disassemble it to
make it for real later" I told them
Anyhow, this week-end of work spend building the fuselage
temporarily turned out to be a great exercise. I got to know my
parts and where they fit better. Definitely not a waste of time as I
expected. And then I got fewer questions all the time...
DIY Painting Update ...Steve Melton
Jeff Update ...via Vlad
"Just got a progress report via SpyNet
January 11, 2016.
Issue No. 4,028.
I had the honor of attending Red Marron's funeral on
Saturday. The infamous B.C. Squadron was represented well!
There was some sadness, but rest assured there were many, many laughs.
What a life well lived! Red, I'll see you on the other side
someday. You set the bar pretty high...
The Passing of a GREAT!!!!!
(Jesse starts the talking) "Now I realize some people
reading this know what I truly believe is the source and cause of
happiness. That hasn't changed. The title would more appropriately
read "Happiness in aviation is...", but that isn't as catchy.
Happiness in aviation is walking out to the car after work and
saying, "I think I'll take the -6A up for a spin." 25 minutes later
I'm again walking out to the car with the biggest RV Grin. 0.3 hrs
on the Hobbs, 1.8 gallons of $3.12 100LL, 2 aileron rolls and a
majestic setting sun. Does aviation get any better than that?!
What is your "happiness in aviation is..." moment like?"
Pink Slip!! ...Greg Niehues
Still a few weeks away from first flight due to some lingering
squawks and a few family commitments, but N16GN is official!! Thanks
I thought I would fit but the gap between the poles is 3" shorter
then my wingspan. Any ideas where I am?
From the Mothership
January 8, 2016.
Issue No. 4,027.
Wishing you and yours a happy, safe and RV-filled
Sigh of relief ...Ray in WV
Received the pink slip today from Charlie Monola, FISDO
Charleston, WV. He made the FAA look good with his great attitude,
professionalism and here to help attitude. Now the fun begins. It's
time to put to use the skills I learned from John "Jetguy" Asbury
during the transition training last month.
Retired! ...Gerry Julian 6A
As of Thursday, Dec. 31, I am officially retired after a 35 year
career as a physical therapist/clinic owner. Of course, this means
more time at the hangar (finally get that GRT EFIS I've had lying
around for a year installed), and more time in the air. There...this
post is officially RV related! Time to start putting some real hours
on Second Wind <g>
Rolled the Canoe ...Larry Larson 7A
Matt Dralle Update ...FB/Tim Brandt/Bob Leffler
Matt & Katie Update: Matt was moved today to the rehab hospital
in Walnut Creek where he will be for the next several weeks. He
starts work tomorrow.
Once we know Matt's schedule I will try to have a way to schedule
people to go see him at the rehab hospital. I would like to have at
least one visitor per day so that Matt has encouragement and
friendly faces as Katie will not be there during the week after this
A few Maintenance items. Parts 1 and 2 ...John RV-12
Just replaced those cute little plastic inserts in the carb
throttle arm where the springs attach. See parts 74 and 73 in the
788 hours on each one.
TeenFlight Puyallup celebrates 1st Flight
TeenFlight Puyallup celebrated the first flight of it's first
student built RV-12 on December 10th, piloted by Marv Scott.
This is the first of three RV-12s currently under construction and
we are expecting the next first flight by end of this school year.
Status Update ...crabandy pics
It's Alive!!! ...RV7Guy
Finally, my panel is lit up. I'm using the Vertical Power Primary
Power System that provides power to the VP-X. There were a couple of
wiring issues that Chad Jensen helped me work through. After that
was done, we got the VP-X configured. Then, hit the switch and
powered everything. All smoke stayed in the boxes. At this point,
there are only 2 minor issues that I'm sure I will trace back to me
The equipment is as follows. 2 AFS 5500T (touch screen) EFIS's,
Garmin 750, Garmin SL40, TruTrak Gemini 880, Garmin 330 remote
mounted, CO Guardian 455, XM weather and radio, NavWorx ADS-B.
Thursday Morning No Flying
LIFR around here Thursday, so instead some talking, doing DB
upgrades, solving the world's problems and lunch at Wendy's.
Afternoon looked good, though.
January 7, 2016.
Issue No. 4,026.
could be the most boring video ever uploaded to the internet, but it
means something to me. My first PIC in the by God clouds in
OMG IMC flying IFR. LOL. 2,400' OVC and mist around
N.Texas on the 6th, so I went up to KGLE (VFR) for $2.99 fuel, then
got a pop up clearance back into KAFW on the way back. ILS
16L. At DH in VMC I cancelled and went back to my home field
3n.m. to the east.
It's only 1min 49sec, but it documents previously unseen white
stuff around the canopy as I joined the localizer. Kind of
a non-event looking back. I reached down to turn a knob and
when I looked back up everything was white. Eyes went straight
to the PFD as trained. Pretty neat feeling.
My IFR Checkride
9A Status ...Ken Boyd
My RV9A flew for the first time on November 14, 2015. As of
January 6, 2016 I have 25 hours of my 40 hours of test time flown
off. I am very happy with the finished product.
All log books backed up! ...turbo and others
"...it only took ten minutes and a camera. this was my new years
resolution to my aircraft. filed away in a safe deposit box, time
well spent. the plan is to update the sd card at the beginning of
each year. there are many good reasons to do this."
Met the newest RV on the block! ...Vlad re: Charlie
I flew to Columbia County airport 1B1 the other day. Look who is
here. Charlie Luke and his brand spanking new RV! She is a beauty
with dual GRT screens my old girl liked her.
Seat Belt cable magnetism with ADAHRS...need a fix ...Chad Hesterman
I'm wondering if anyone knows if there is a process to reduce the
magnetism of the seat belt cables? I am having a bit of interference
with my Dynon D6 and a much less extent, my Skyview. I have mounted
the ADAHRS and D6 compass on a cross bar aft of the baggage
compartment. The seat belt cables pass about 5 inches from them. I
am getting some heading swing if I move the cables around. I am in
the build stage of my 7A still, so I am looking for an easy solution
if there is one. I have wrapped the cables in two layers of plastic
shield, but no help.
Thanks for any ideas.
GoPro Mount for Top of VS ...rightrudder
And a Little Pull Ring
Upgraded Panel ...Walt
Another one I finished recently, nice clean simple VFR panel with
room for upgrading to IFR later if desired.
WANTED: Beta Testers for New Construction Log App
(Ryan Asleson) "I'm nearing completion on a software application
that experimental aircraft builders can use to log and record the
construction process of the aircraft. The application allows the
builder to create entries detailing specific work completed,
including photographs. There are other features included to help the
builder track the construction progress that I won't detail here,
but are intended to help the builder visualize and document the
I'm looking for builders who are actively in the construction
process to serve as beta testers for the application. The ideal beta
•Is actively constructing an experimental aircraft
•Uses a desktop internet browser such as Firefox, Chrome, Safari, or
•Actively uses an iOS (iPhone or iPad) or Android mobile device
•Is willing to provide feedback such as bug reports, comments on
features, or general recommendations
In return for their assistance, beta testers receive free lifetime
use of the product.
If you are interested in becoming a beta tester, please call
612-246-4550 and leave a message
that includes your email address and the type of mobile device
(Android or iOS) you have."
January 6, 2016.
Issue No. 4,025.
I spent the day nursing
a sick kiddo. The Tater's doing better, and I got a chunk of
Move to the Airport in Pictures ...John Walker RV-10
Finally catching up on an update. We got a lot done in the
week before Christmas. Did the Matco Wheel and brake upgrade
(finally) as well as the front axel upgrade. They had been on my
list since the beginning but were in the "can happen anytime"
pile... Along with some new Desser tires (oshkosh Special) and The
plane Around Fairing spacers...
David Paule RV-3B Status Update
With the flaps and ailerons done, I wrapped them in bubblepack
and put them in the shop rafters. I think I should have adjusted the
aileron pushrods before I did that, and I might pull the ailerons
down and do just that. In the photo, we're looking almost straight
up. The tan stuff is the sprayed-in foam and you can see one of the
four electric radiant heaters, too.
Garmin Connect and D2
I've been loaned a D2 watch to
abuse for a bit,
and I thought I would ping out a thought or two. Some screen
grabs from the Connect app that you use with the watch below - three
grabs from a walk on Monday afternoon, and some from a flight some
time back. It is similar to an iWatch re: its activity
tracking features, but the flying aspect is actually kinda
convenient. For tracking a flight, if you're just wanting how
far, how high, how long and a ground track, it's pretty painless,
actually. You just select 'Fly'...and then look at your phone
after your flight. It 'syncs' using lasers and ball bearings,
Of note in the flying grabs you can see the green elevation graph
showing the ILS into KAFW and then the RNAV 17 into Decatur.
In the pace graph of the walking grab you can see where I stopped to
cross a couple of streets (waiting for cars) and where I stopped to
talk to one of Tate's friends I passed there at the end.
Click to enlarge pics....
The 'high level' screen...
...tapping on the map gives...
...and tapping on the little square with a line graph in it
Bet you can tell when the autopilot was on <g>.
High level same as above...
...tapping on the little piece of paper with the bent corner
....and the graph is like above.
Mystery Boats ...Vlad
Matt Dralle Update ...via FB via Tim Brandt via Bob Leffler
Matt & Katie update: Today Matt got to start eating semi-solid
foods. He also is waiting for a room on the 4th floor so he is
moving out of ICU. The boss and I went to see him at lunch and he
looked really good. Really strong grip and doing well. There is a
lot of work ahead for Matt but I know he can do it.
Matt will be soon moving to a Rehab Hospital sometime this week in
Walnut Creek for several weeks.
Thank you for your continued prayers as Matt progresses.
1st GoPro video from my RV-4 ...Dean Pichon
Status: Dave Grimmer RV-8
Entered the canoe stage with the help of my son, who is becoming
a good riveter.
New hole in my left finger
(JohnP MI) So, after telling myself over and over and over that
it wouldn't happen to me, I managed to drill a neat 3/32" hole in my
left middle finger.
How it happened... I was drilling the last hole in the right
elevator outboard rib trailing tip of my RV-4. The space was too
narrow to fit my standard wood drilling block, so I whipped out a
new one from some 1/4" plywood I had laying around. I was down to
the final two holes and was thinking ahead to the next step -
deburring. In went the block of wood, the drill was centered, and I
pulled the trigger. The next thing I knew, I could feel the drill
bit twisting into my finger. Ouch. I was bleeding sawdust, aluminum,
What I learned... 110deg split-tip HSS drills cut through plywood
like warm butter AND the drill stop exists for a reason. From now on
I will be much more diligent about setting the drill stop depth
January 5, 2016.
Issue No. 4,024.
Visiting family and friends ...N941WR
"Sometimes we simply forget what great traveling machines our
RV’s are. More importantly, we forget what great friendship machines
Three years ago, while attending the Triple Tree Fly-in my son, who
was four at the time, and I walked back to the plane to get a toy
out of the back and two gentlemen were giving it a pretty good
inspection. As we walked up, I introduced myself and asked if they
had any questions.
It turned out the son, Paul, had built an RV-6 and his father had
just started on a -9 and was trying to decide where to put the
little wheel. Neither had flown in a -9 or -9A so I offered both of
them a ride, which they gratefully accepted. After the post flight
debrief we each went our separate ways.
Later that day, while talking to another friend (I think it was
Pierre), I noticed my son was running around with two little girls,
the younger one being his age. After finishing with Pierre, I
introduced myself to the girl’s mother and grandmother. While
chatting with Mom and Grandmother, and watching the kids runaround,
expending more energy than I expend in half a day, the two gentlemen
I had previously given rides to approached and started chatting. As
it turns out, the two ladies were their wives and the girls where
Crabandy RV-7 Status Report
Best build session I've had all year.....last couple of months included!
Mr. Baby is down for a solid nap while the oldest 2 are actually interested
in learning how to apply math with tape measures, ratios (mixing epoxy) and
power tools while the 2 year old plays in the bucket of soapy water......
Here's the blank slate so to say, its been the front of my plane for 2
flying years and attacking it with 60 grit and sloppy epoxy has been the
biggest hang-up of this project.
Ollie Washburn...Rest in Peace
(from Miles) "Ollie Washburn, an RV-6A driver and the host
for the Love's Landing Fly-ins (and my Dad's next-door neighbor when
Dad was still there) passed away last week (Tuesday, I think) after
a short illness. I haven't seen an obituary, but Ollie himself
posted on Facebook on Christmas Eve that he had been in the hospital
since Monday that week and was not feeling well. Then last Tuesday
condolences on his loss started showing up.
Ollie and Loreen hosted my Dad's Celebration of Life in 2008 and for
that I and my family will always be grateful."
Jan/Feb '16 FAA Safety
Briefing is Online ...TOC below
Bagels and Cream Cheese ...Joe Wilbur RV-10
You know you've been at it a little too much when you feel compelled to
sand your bagel after meticulously filling all the nooks and crannies with
Thankfully after a couple weeks of daily work on the cabin top, I can say
it's finally done, painted, and almost fully installed. It isn't perfect,
but it's pretty good if I do say so myself.
January 4, 2016.
Issue No. 4,023.
Sunday morning before Mass I scooted out to the field for my
first flight of 2016. 34*F and calm on the surface. Thick
air that works so well for spotting deer at slower speeds - counted
sixteen in half an hour. I don't think any of them even looked up.
Must be used to me.
Back in the pattern, trimmed up with the AOA dialed in for final, I got
one of those 'this is the greatest hobbies in the world' type feelings
again. I had the airport to myself, there weren't any bumps or
crosswinds, and right as the wheels touched I dumped the flaps, stopping
in 932' if you believe the ruler feature on GoogleEarth. What a
confidence builder! These planes are absolutely amazing.
Back home by 0930 for food, God, work, workout and football. Hoping
you had a nice holiday. Lot of stuff in today's edition...lots of
RVating over the holidays!
First Flight Jeff Reins
"My Vans Aircraft RV8, N37HR, S/N 82310, was inspected on
December 31, 2015. First flight was January 2, 2015. Flight was
performed by Jay Pratt of RV Central, Saginaw, Texas. The plane is
powered by an OX-340S-A1A2N, propeller is Hartzell HC-C2YR-1BF
weight is 1043 lbs. Jay was excited about the acceleration on take
off. Thank you Vans for the experience!
From the test pilot Jay Pratt, "He used a ECI. O-340 Stroker
rated at 177hp.
I was the pilot. I am impressed with this engine in Jeff's RV8!!! He
has A Hartzell prop. The airplane weighed in at 1047."
Happy New Years from Maine @ 3000 ft ...pics from David
Hope everyone had a good holiday, took it easy last night so got
up and headed to KBST for a 1st flight in 2016.
A little cold -9c with 12kt crosswinds gusting to 18, but still nice
Update on Matt Dralle
2 Years to First Flight ...David Otero
One week shy of the 2 year anniversary of the day I started my
RV-7, N505RV took to the air. Couldn't have happened without the
help and support of my wonderful wife and great friends. I'll post
RV-8 Blog ...welcome Chris Dupin
Mr. John Farnham...Rest in Peace (posted by his son Ross)
2015 Review ...Jay Pratt starts the ball rolling
"...186.2 hours logged in all airplanes.
Sun N Fun and Key West in RV8 Borrowed Horse
Flew the Skywagon 'Paul Revere' to Spearfish, SD, Winifred, Montana,
Kalaspell, Montana. Drove into Canada. Johnson Creek, Idaho, Salt
Lake City, Utah, visited Park City.
Oshkosh in The RV8 'Borrowed Horse' ... After OSH, we flew to visit
friends in Indiana, and Maine, drove into Canada, Prince Edward
Island, camping along the Main and Canada coast. Then Flew to
Watertown, NY and stayed a week with friends in a cabin on the St
Lawrence River. On our way home we stopped and visited more friends
in Missouri. Saw a bunch of springs and parks."
Status: Katie B's RV-3
Tail's on! Temporarily, of course. Still a lot of work to do with
control surface rigging, trim tab cable routing (grrr), and
New Years flight ...Brent Connelly RV-12 video
Teen RV-12 Build Project - Brighton, MI (45G) ...Jason Burton
Now that my first official post on the board was a plea for help
regarding fuselage instructions, my second post is a formal
introduction of myself and the RV-12 build project that my son
(Collin, 13) and I have become heavily involved with since August.
My name is Jason Burton and I am a Private Pilot and one of the lead
mentors for a teen RV-12 build project that is taking place at
Brighton Airport (45G), in Brighton, MI.
We have approximately 12 boys ages 13-17 who work on the project
twice per week with between 3 and 9 adult mentors. Admittedly, this
is my first time building and airplane, but I grew up in the Tool &
Die trade, and my career involves engineering and manufacturing of
tools for stamping, molds, medical, etc..., so I consider myself to
be mechanically inclined, and love working with my hands. Most of
our mentors, including myself, are members of EAA Chapter 384, which
is based at 45G, and are either experienced pilots, builders, or
both. In face, one of our main sponsors completed a beautiful RV-6A
several years ago, which he still owns.
cderk RV-10 Status Update
143WM is flying again! ...yankee-flyer RV-12
After waiting 6 weeks and 1 day for new prop blades from
Sensenich and then almost two weeks of miserable (300 and a half one
day) Ohio weather, she finally flew today-- two flights working on
prop pitch and just enjoying being off the ground again. Still a
little tweaking to do on the prop but she's close.
Thanks for all the help, information, and encouragement, too.
P.S. No fuel flow alarms with new Kavlico sensor installed while
there was nothing else to to.
Cascade Range - Mt Baker Area ...rockwoodrv9 trip writeup
DIY Painting ...Steve M. updates
Rocky Mountain New Year ...mchargmg
Sabrina and I took the Sabrina Lee to Buena Vista today. A
beautiful trip as always. Here is the view coming into town.
Famous Visitor ...Joe
The world's only flying RV-14A, spotted at my house!
James Clark IV First Eight Flights....and some polishing
January 1, 2016.
Issue No. 4,022.
Farewell 2015. Wishing you, your families and your
friends a happy, safe, healthy and RV-filled 2016. Thank you for
letting our family be a small part of it. The people I meet
through this site make me a better person, and for that I am forever
Vlad Wishes Us Well ...as only he can.
Matt Dralle Recovering
(Bob Leffler) Many know Matt due to his Matronics mailing
lists or his Mykitlog.com website and Kitlog build tracking
Regrettably, Matt had a stroke earlier in the week. I'm posting this
on VAF because to minimize any potential hate mail sent his
direction for lack of responsiveness in supporting these products.
Unfortunately it's going to be awhile before he will be able to
respond to any inquiries.
Matt needs our prayers as he recovers. The following was posted to
his FB page last night.
Matt Update: He is responding to comments being made by
squeezing Katie's hand and he was able to answer his age by
using his one hand. All early indicators are that he is doing
Katie sends her thanks for the prayers and that they are
Check those oil screens ...Vic
I come across many RV's who's operators forget to check the oil
screen on the engine. It should be checked at least once per year
during the annual or whenever the internal health of the engine is
in question. Here is a picture of one I removed from an RV10
yesterday that should drive the message home. IO-540 with 10:1
pistons and only 600 hours. I don't know when the screen was last
checked, but clearly there is lots of blowby. All of the chunks were
carbon, the screen was about 50% blocked, with one cylinder at 48/80
and 54/80 and all of the leakage going by the rings.
New Years Day Nor Cal Willows Lunch
There are a few of us planning to fly to Nancy's in Willows CA at
11:00 New Year Day. If we fill up Nancy's like last year it's a
short walk across the freeway to Black Bear Diner. Hope to see a lot
of you there. Happy New Year start it off right with a log book